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Devil's Lawyer
12-26-2010, 06:26 PM
So lets do this basically everyday humans vs Hary potter verse who wins. Saw a joke about this.

Location: Hogwarts

Distance: 100 meters

bloodlusted humans get prep and knowledge.

tyrell4life194
12-26-2010, 06:31 PM
Every day humans wield knives, swords, guns, rocket launchers, rockets, missles, warships, jets, planes, grenades, nukes, bombs, and TNT's. There is absolutely NO WAY IMAGINABLE that the Humans would EVER lose. EVER.

NBT
12-26-2010, 07:13 PM
Nukes.The end.

Konoha'sGreenThunder
12-26-2010, 07:15 PM
HPverse transfigures the weapons into harmless flowers/whatever else.

Frost ninja
12-26-2010, 07:52 PM
Yeah harry potter people transfigure every weapon into flowers, then proceed to adava Cadava everyone with instakills

tyrell4life194
12-26-2010, 08:02 PM
Lets see if they can transform bullets into petals. Until you bring in proof of that happening, then drop it.

Nyruss
12-27-2010, 01:48 AM
Dementors. The end.

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 02:30 AM
I mean teleporting, incredible arsenal of spells.

Dumbledore could make the spells so human couldn`t know where he is, make them unable to enter, create shields.

They have so many ways to win this battle.

Or simply, as Dudemeister said, the Dementors.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 10:17 AM
I wonder. Can Dementors tank bullets?

Devil's Lawyer
12-27-2010, 10:51 AM
Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight. As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 11:05 AM
How about Lord Moldybutt?

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 11:05 AM
Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight. As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

There are shields to protect them.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 11:05 AM
From a nuke, or a bullet?

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 11:10 AM
From a nuke, or a bullet?

Well, at least bullets. But anyway, they can`t be hit by nuke, because they can teleport. They can make a spell so someone can`t enter in specific area. Or cannot find a certain area. Plus transforming and much more.

Devil's Lawyer
12-27-2010, 11:21 AM
There are shields to protect them.

They can't make a shield faster than a bullet and a dementor can't teleport. Nor does it have a shield. Then all wizards can't teleport.

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 11:23 AM
They can't make a shield faster than a bullet and a dementor can't teleport. Nor does it have a shield. Then the shield can't tank a nuke.

Before I continue, tell me how they would deal with ghosts.

Shikamaru Nara
12-27-2010, 11:36 AM
Invisibility cloak and a spell should do the trick.

Nyruss
12-27-2010, 11:44 AM
I wonder. Can Dementors tank bullets?

Probably. Doesn't matter either way though because Dementors can't be seen by non-magical humans and they will be floating around them and stealing their souls, so the gunners would kill more of their allies than they would dementors.

Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight. As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

Probably. Doesn't matter either way though because Dementors can't be seen by non-magical humans and they will be floating around them and stealing their souls, so the nukes would kill more of their allies than they would dementors.

Once the Dementors have done their thing the rest of HPverse goes in to mop up the survivors.

Vivi
12-27-2010, 11:46 AM
Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight.

As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

Muggles can't see Dementors.

How would they know where to strike the Nuke?

Lol no.

Nothing us Humans have can defeat Ghosts.

We cannot win due to being unable to evendefeat a single Ghost.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 11:59 AM
Well, since Humans can't see Dementors, then the Humans are boned.

ko lee
12-27-2010, 12:44 PM
You don't need to see them if you have a nuke its widespread dementors die or better yet we just drop a hydrogen bomb on them

Vivi
12-27-2010, 12:53 PM
You don't need to see them if you have a nuke its widespread dementors die or better yet we just drop a hydrogen bomb on them

Humans nuke out themselves out while trying to attack HPverse leaving only the Ghosts left.

The.End.

TheBlackChidori
12-27-2010, 02:24 PM
Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight. As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

A nuke is not intense light. It's a biological reaction that produces light, but it's most certainly not the light of a Patronus. =p

Blind Uchiha
12-27-2010, 02:31 PM
Well, since Humans can't see Dementors, then the Humans are boned.

Contestants from universes where they are normally invisible or intangible become visible and tangible, even if the other contestants has no energies that would normally allow them to do so. (Ex. Shinigami from Bleach can be seen by Shikamaru, despite him not being a Shinigami or Hollow himself)

OMG Battleground Rules. What a concept?

Nyruss
12-27-2010, 02:43 PM
Inivisibility doesn't matter. It's not a crucial factor for Dementors any more than it is for Hollows. Their other abilities are the problem, namely the fact that they can't be killed and can only be driven away by a Patronus. Then there's that pesky soul-sucking they do.

Also that rule only applies to blanket effects, if an individual character(like Dumbledore for example) has the ability to become invisible there's nothing preventing this. So DD goes invisible and silent-casts Avada Kedavra like there's no tomorrow.

colorles
12-27-2010, 03:29 PM
Inivisibility doesn't matter. It's not a crucial factor for Dementors any more than it is for Hollows. Their other abilities are the problem, namely the fact that they can't be killed and can only be driven away by a Patronus. Then there's that pesky soul-sucking they do.

Also that rule only applies to blanket effects, if an individual character(like Dumbledore for example) has the ability to become invisible there's nothing preventing this. So DD goes invisible and silent-casts Avada Kedavra like there's no tomorrow.

beings such as shamans and voodoo practitioners exist as humans, amoung other 'sensitive' beings

if peoples can sense the 'paranormal', they can sense Dementors i suppose, and any 'sensitive' being can sense somthing 'invisible' such as Dumbledore, jus try listening;)

just sayin', although the Dementors stil soul suck everything unless any 'sensitive' humans can counter

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 03:36 PM
Normal "regular" people can`t do anything against Harry Potter Ghosts.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 03:40 PM
Also, Humans have shown no reaction speed feats as to dodge curses and jinxes.

Konoha'sGreenThunder
12-27-2010, 03:46 PM
Wizards transfigure the weapons, go invisible, fly, use shields, etc.

Dementors can't be seen by muggles and are not afraid of light. Only Patronuses made of positive energy.

Teleports are pretty much instant, as they've been used to dodge spells, otherwise referred to as jets of light. Humans can't hit them, and then wizards do whatever they want.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 03:54 PM
Damn.

colorles
12-27-2010, 04:08 PM
Wizards get torn apart by varios militarys and the like

ghosts and Dementors and the like can only be countered by shamans and the like i suppose (maybe)

Vivi
12-27-2010, 04:10 PM
Wizards get torn apart by varios militarys and the like

ghosts and Dementors and the like can only be countered by shamans and the like i suppose (maybe)

If and thats a big IF Shamans powers are real.

Even then if their Powers are real I doubt they could be regarded as regular Humans.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 04:17 PM
How about Chuck Norris?

Ultimate combatant
12-27-2010, 04:40 PM
Wizards get torn apart by varios militarys and the like

ghosts and Dementors and the like can only be countered by shamans and the like i suppose (maybe)

Regular normal people are people whose skills, that are important for outcome of debate, do not stand out too much. Shamans skills stand out too much. That means he is not regular human.

Vivi
12-27-2010, 04:47 PM
How about Chuck Norris?

It said regular Humans that means God is excluded.

tyrell4life194
12-27-2010, 06:19 PM
Dammit.

Well, I'm all out of options.

Dementors solo.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 11:14 AM
A nuke is not intense light. It's a biological reaction that produces light, but it's most certainly not the light of a Patronus. =p

Nevertheless it produces an intense light. Which is in fact there weakness. The patronus is a creature which produces a light that can't be put out. Not just nukes anyways flash grenades ,napalm, flares, sidewinder, and etc.

tyrell4life194
12-28-2010, 11:18 AM
The Patronus only drives the Dementors away. It doesn't kill them. While light may be their weakness, light from the nuke won't affect them in such away that they are incapitated.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 11:22 AM
Probably. Doesn't matter either way though because Dementors can't be seen by non-magical humans and they will be floating around them and stealing their souls, so the gunners would kill more of their allies than they would dementors.



Probably. Doesn't matter either way though because Dementors can't be seen by non-magical humans and they will be floating around them and stealing their souls, so the nukes would kill more of their allies than they would dementors.

Once the Dementors have done their thing the rest of HPverse goes in to mop up the survivors.

That when prep and knowledge comes into play. Dementors give off an intense feeling of discomfort when around. Anyways don't have to be killed only driven off which is a ringout for them. Humans have suicide bombers that would do the trick
Muggles can't see Dementors.

How would they know where to strike the Nuke?

Lol no.

Nothing us Humans have can defeat Ghosts.

We cannot win due to being unable to evendefeat a single Ghost.

Prep and knowledge. Dementors and ghosts give off a feeling of intense discomfort. Far as the ghosts go burn the remains that is a universal killing method for ghosts.

tyrell4life194
12-28-2010, 11:25 AM
The Wizards would turn the bombs on the Suicide bombers into Butterfingers.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 11:29 AM
The Wizards would turn the bombs on the Suicide bombers into Butterfingers.

Most wizards don't have knowledge of human weaponry. Then there is the fact they can't cast a spell faster than a bullet. All humans have to do is use puff the magic dragon. An intense gatling gun. They would be killed and wiped out before they even think about a spell. Teleportation of theirs involve a spin in which time they would be sniped. Humans with knowledge would rape hpverse.

tyrell4life194
12-28-2010, 11:37 AM
Most wizards don't have knowledge of human weaponry.
They won't need knowledge. If they can't turn the bombs into Butterfinger, then they'll turn the suicide bombers into Candy Canes.
Then there is the fact they can't cast a spell faster than a bullet.
Most experience Wizards can cast spells without words, and almost instantly.
All humans have to do is use puff the magic dragon.
Ha. No.
An intense gatling gun.
They get turned into Chocolate before that happens.
They would be killed and wiped out before they even think about a spell.
The Humans would get turn into Fried Chicken before that happens.
Teleportation of theirs involve a spin in which time they would be sniped.
The Snipers would already be dealt with.
Humans with knowledge would rape hpverse.
No they wouldn't.

Konoha'sGreenThunder
12-28-2010, 01:07 PM
Nevertheless it produces an intense light. Which is in fact there weakness. The patronus is a creature which produces a light that can't be put out. Not just nukes anyways flash grenades ,napalm, flares, sidewinder, and etc.

No. They are not weak to light.

If that was the case, any wizard could just say, "Lumos" and scare them off. Patronuses are spells that express positive emotions into a 'physical' form. Dementors are warded off by this, not light.

Besides, they basically suck the light out of any place they visit, along with freezing it, and immobilizing those who are unprepared, eventually sucking out their souls.

In fact, Dementors cannot be destroyed. Period. Basically, if humans could somehow take down wizards, they're screwed because they can do nothing against Dementors.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4539993#post4539993)
They won't need knowledge. If they can't turn the bombs into Butterfinger, then they'll turn the suicide bombers into Candy Canes.

Thats dumb no wizard is faster than a f5 raptor or sidewinder missile. Let alone know where the bombs.

Most experience Wizards can cast spells without words, and almost instantly.

Still has to do wand movements. Navy seals slit their throats before they even realize they are their anyways. Wizards don't really know how to fight a real war.

They get turned into Chocolate before that happens.

One no wizards knows how to turn anyone into chocalate. Next is the fact they are not faster than a bullet. Regular human reactions.

The Humans would get turn into Fried Chicken before that happens.

Humans have prep and knowledge how does that work out. Weapons are set up bombs are in place. Wizards die its that simple.
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The Snipers would already be dealt with.

How they don't even know where the snipers are. Do you even know how a real sniper operates. Wizards in hpverse don't have special tracking spells. If they did they were never mentioned in the story.

Humans with knowledge would rape wizards in hpverse.

death

tyrell4life194
12-28-2010, 02:22 PM
Dementors.

Proof of speed, proof of distance, proof of Navi reaching to the Wizards, before they get turned into Grape Drink, proof the Navi will even make it that far, proof that you're not just wanking.

They don't need to be faster than a bullet. There are thousands of spells a Wizard and/or a Witch can use. Pretty sure turning someone into a Chocolate is one of them.

Dementors. Lord Voldemort.

Ha. No.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 02:26 PM
No. They are not weak to light.

If that was the case, any wizard could just say, "Lumos" and scare them off. Patronuses are spells that express positive emotions into a 'physical' form. Dementors are warded off by this, not light.

Besides, they basically suck the light out of any place they visit, along with freezing it, and immobilizing those who are unprepared, eventually sucking out their souls.

In fact, Dementors cannot be destroyed. Period. Basically, if humans could somehow take down wizards, they're screwed because they can do nothing against Dementors.

No proof to that seeing as there were other methods beside patronuses to fight a dementor.(good old wiki) Since all wizards can't use patronuses. Methods was never mentioned in the books but they exist. Humans get knowledge so you know that falls into that category of prep and knowledge. Can't suck the light if is instant like a bomb. Obvious adversion to light seeing as they are always in dark places and removing it before their arrival. Also can attach bombs to dogs seeing as they are unaffected by dementors. Then there is chocalate.
Dementors.

Proof of speed, proof of distance, proof of Navi reaching to the Wizards, before they get turned into Grape Drink, proof the Navi will even make it that far, proof that you're not just wanking.

They don't need to be faster than a bullet. There are thousands of spells a Wizard and/or a Witch can use. Pretty sure turning someone into a Chocolate is one of them.

Dementors. Lord Voldemort.

Ha. No.

Prep and knowledge try again sir. You obviously don't know what that means. No wizard is dodging a bullet no wizard is omnipotent no wizard can stop a nuke no wizard can do anything without knowledge. They will be shot before they use a spell. Bring proof of a wizard stopping a bullet then we will talk.

Lord voldemort can still die. His ghost form can't do crap. Dementors explained that already.

Konoha'sGreenThunder
12-28-2010, 02:44 PM
No proof to that seeing as there were other methods beside patronuses to fight a dementor.(good old wiki) Since all wizards can't use patronuses. Methods was never mentioned in the books but they exist. Humans get knowledge so you know that falls into that category of prep and knowledge. Can't suck the light if is instant like a bomb. Obvious adversion to light seeing as they are always in dark places and removing it before their arrival. Also can attach bombs to dogs seeing as they are unaffected by dementors. Then there is chocalate.



Other methods are ASSUMED to exist. It was never said that they do, so you, for purposes of this debate, can't assume they do, nor can you assume that humans can execute such actions.

..It doesn't matter, they aren't warded off by light. Else they wouldn't come out in the daylight. Also, you can't assume they're afraid of light. They bring darkness because of their nature; they feed off of depression and sorrow.

Dogs are not immune to Dementors. The Dementors were guarding against Sirius Black, and could not tell the difference between an animagus-form and the real thing. Assuming dogs are somehow immune to them is bogus.

Chocolate does not ward them off, but makes people feel better after the attacks.

Again, Dementors can't be destroyed, so no matter what they do, humans can't do anything to them.

Really, stop making stuff up to back your arguments.

tyrell4life194
12-28-2010, 02:50 PM
No proof to that seeing as there were other methods beside patronuses to fight a dementor.(good old wiki) Since all wizards can't use patronuses. Methods was never mentioned in the books but they exist. Humans get knowledge so you know that falls into that category of prep and knowledge. Can't suck the light if is instant like a bomb. Obvious adversion to light seeing as they are always in dark places and removing it before their arrival. Also can attach bombs to dogs seeing as they are unaffected by dementors. Then there is chocalate.


Prep and knowledge try again sir.
Ok, your point? Prep and knowledge won't help them win the battle.
You obviously don't know what that means.
Yes I do.
No wizard is dodging a bullet
Won't need to. Wizards will turn the Humans into Fried Chicken before they can pull the trigger.
no wizard is omnipotent
Never said that. Try again.
no wizard can stop a nuke
They can with spells. Try again.
no wizard can do anything without knowledge.
They don't need knowledge. They're already bloodlusted, so it's most likely that they will disarm the humans, to stop their attacks, and kill them while they're defenseless.
They will be shot before they use a spell.
Proof of Humans pulling a trigger before the Wizards cast their spells.
Bring proof of a wizard stopping a bullet then we will talk.
Bring proof of a Human stoping a Jinx, a Curse, and Patronus, Dementors, Lord Voldemort.
Lord voldemort can still die. His ghost form can't do crap.
Lord Voldemort turns them into Chocolate. Try again.
Dementors explained that already.
No you didn't.

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 02:57 PM
Other methods are ASSUMED to exist. It was never said that they do, so you, for purposes of this debate, can't assume they do, nor can you assume that humans can execute such actions.

No methods exist considering Harry argued with Snape over the best method. So it exist but was never mentioned.

..It doesn't matter, they aren't warded off by light. Else they wouldn't come out in the daylight. Also, you can't assume they're afraid of light. They bring darkness because of their nature; they feed off of depression and sorrow.

Church choir attack

Dogs are not immune to Dementors. The Dementors were guarding against Sirius Black, and could not tell the difference between an animagus-form and the real thing. Assuming dogs are somehow immune to them is bogus.

No that was why he could escape due to the fact dogs and animals are unaffected. Can't sense there thoughts or feelings.

Chocolate does not ward them off, but makes people feel better after the attacks.

But it helps ease the effects right.

Again, Dementors can't be destroyed, so no matter what they do, humans can't do anything to them.

They can be drove off. Which would count as a ringout. Which is all that matters here.

Really, stop making stuff up to back your arguments.

I am not making crap up. Harry potter is over with get over it.

Calm your nerves its not that serious.

Konoha'sGreenThunder
12-28-2010, 03:04 PM
Calm your nerves its not that serious.

You have no clue what Snape said about it. Maybe Snape thinks you should take a dagger to its face. Maybe Snape thinks you should run. You don't know, so stop trying to use it.

So, you imply the humans are going to strap a bomb to a dog to defeat Dementors? Good luck, that's not going to work. They can't be destroyed.

Munchin' on chocolate is not going to save anyone from Dementors. It helps people recover.

The only thing shown capable of driving off Dementors is a Patronus. Humans can't make those. They can't be destroyed, so why would they flee from a weapon?

Yea, you are. Humans<Wizards.

"Get over it" hurrdurr.

Nick Tasogare
12-28-2010, 03:04 PM
HPverse transfigures the weapons into harmless flowers/whatever else.

McGonagle be schoolin' bishes.

Lets see if they can transform bullets into petals. Until you bring in proof of that happening, then drop it.

Let's see if they can find Hogwarts and get past the numerous enchantments that can be utilized to cloak witches and wizaards.

Can a dementor tank a nuke. Which is intense llight. As for the rest they all get hit by a marine sniper.

I thought it was mainly heat energy that produced light?

Nevertheless it produces an intense light. Which is in fact there weakness. The patronus is a creature which produces a light that can't be put out. Not just nukes anyways flash grenades ,napalm, flares, sidewinder, and etc.

Um no, their 'weakness' is their exact opposite. Not light, but love. Iirc, it's been said that the opposite of darkness and evil is not light, but love. Love is a positive feeling.

That when prep and knowledge comes into play. Dementors give off an intense feeling of discomfort when around. Anyways don't have to be killed only driven off which is a ringout for them. Humans have suicide bombers that would do the trick


Prep and knowledge. Dementors and ghosts give off a feeling of intense discomfort. Far as the ghosts go burn the remains that is a universal killing method for ghosts.

Um, no. They don't give off a feeling of discomfort. They make the area around them incredibly cold, enough to create icicles. They focus in on a person's darker emotions and memories, such as losing loved ones, which is why positive memories are used to create the patronus, which drives them off. You're saying suicide bombers will kill dementors? Lolno.

Calm your nerves its not that serious.

Troll be trollin' xD

Devil's Lawyer
12-28-2010, 03:06 PM
No you didn't.

Please stop wasting my time. No wizard can cast a spell faster than someone shooting a gun that is assinine. Considering the fact they are still human. Next no wizard can stop a nuke. How can they transfigure a explosion. Voldermort is a wizard he catches a bullet to the head. Dementors get drove off. It is that simple to the head. Bring proof of a wizard stopping a f5 without prep then we can talk otherwise shhhh.
McGonagle be schoolin' bishes.

lolwut



Let's see if they can find Hogwarts and get past the numerous enchantments that can be utilized to cloak witches and wizaards.

Doesn't matter in bg. Direct confrontaion and battle location here.


I thought it was mainly heat energy that produced light?

Electromagnetic radiation if you wanna be technical



Um no, their 'weakness' is their exact opposite. Not light, but love. Iirc, it's been said that the opposite of darkness and evil is not light, but love. Love is a positive feeling.

I got love and plenty to go around.

Um, no. They don't give off a feeling of discomfort. They make the area around them incredibly cold, enough to create icicles. They focus in on a person's darker emotions and memories, such as losing loved ones, which is why positive memories are used to create the patronus, which drives them off. You're saying suicide bombers will kill dementors? Lolno.

Not everybody has trauma then there is nothing to suggest that a blast can't blow them away.



Troll be trollin' xD

I alrady have one trolling me I don't need you to add to the count

Change my mind out of boredom.

Nyruss
12-28-2010, 03:54 PM
This thread has already been decided and is now nothing but another vehicle for RealNinja to troll. HPverse wins. Goodbye.