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Alright PMP, tell me why Lil Wayne is better than Kanye.
puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 01:19 AM
Lil' Waynes sound is much better. He is and actually rapper, not just a pop artist. He has started a group of rappers that had commercial success. He doesn't have set lyrics for his songs. He doesn't embarrass 15 year old girls in front of a HUGE audience at the VMA's.
Tunechi has better music IMO.
God, I should be a mod here seeing how much i did to jump-start this
Lil' Waynes sound is much better. He is and actually rapper, not just a pop artist. He has started a group of rappers that had commercial success. He doesn't have set lyrics for his songs. He doesn't embarrass 15 year old girls in front of a HUGE audience at the VMA's.
Lil Wayne repeats himself... ALOT. It's either Young Money, Blood Gang, Money, Sex, Weed. Thats over and over again. Yes Wayne had about 1-2 songs that was deep but that doesn't compare to Kanye's. Give me a Wayne song that can Match "Last Call"
Kanye is an rapper. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy justifies that. I know what exactly your talking about. Your talking about 808's & Heart Break which was an experimental Album. Heard 'EM Say, Touch The Sky, Diamonds From Sierra Leone, Can't Tell Me Nothing, Homecoming, and all of his last album excluding Runaway. The problem I have with Wayne he was too comfortable with his sound which made his fan base too relax. So when Wayne tried his Rock Album Stunt, he epically failed harder than Kanye's 808's.
With Kanye we don't get exactly one genre of Rap. We don't expect him to rap on every rap song. Which allowed him to grow. Wayne is stuck in the "One Genre" category. Anything he does outside of that will sound off.
Ok, Young Money. Every Heard Of Good Music? Ever heard of KiD CuDi, Common, Big Sean, John Legend, Mos Def and Pusha T? Good Music is 10x better than Young Money. YM's best artist is Drake who he even said himself, "Stole his flow from BIG SEAN." Nicki Minaj, sucks really in my opinion. She tries to be the Lady Gaga of rap and she is failing in that campaign. Other than Wayne, Drake, and Nicki who on YM is marketable? No one. On the other side, all the artists I name off of Good Music are. KiD CuDi MOTM II sold more albums than his first. Finally Famous Vol 3. Scored an average of 4-5/5 Star ratings from critics. John Legend - Do I need To Explain? Mos Def - Do I Need To Explain? Pusha T just got signed, but if you haven't heard of him, he is that guy that finishes strong on Runaway.
Set lyrics? This is where Quality beats Quantity. What would you rather have: Half Good Songs or a finishing product that will satisfy you day's or weeks after. A perfect example of this is I Am Not A Human Being vs. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. If you were to take a poll on which of those 2 albums are better I guarantee that MBDTF will be on top.
The Taylor Swift thing. Really? Can you blame someone who likes to speak the truth when whenever he wants to? The Taylor shouldn't have been a surprise. Look at the Bush incident. A year later, the same people who look down on him for that is giving him praise. The TV program that Banned him from their network invited him back to an award show, named him Man Of The Year, & Best Album Of The Year. The only person I see is still crying foul is Taylor fans who really needs to get over it.
Lil Wayne repeats himself... ALOT. It's either Young Money, Blood Gang, Money, Sex, Weed. Thats over and over again. Yes Wayne had about 1-2 songs that was deep but that doesn't compare to Kanye's. Give me a Wayne song that can Match "Last Call"
Kanye is an rapper. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy justifies that. I know what exactly your talking about. Your talking about 808's & Heart Break which was an experimental Album. Heard 'EM Say, Touch The Sky, Diamonds From Sierra Leone, Can't Tell Me Nothing, Homecoming, and all of his last album excluding Runaway. The problem I have with Wayne he was too comfortable with his sound which made his fan base too relax. So when Wayne tried his Rock Album Stunt, he epically failed harder than Kanye's 808's.
With Kanye we don't get exactly one genre of Rap. We don't expect him to rap on every rap song. Which allowed him to grow. Wayne is stuck in the "One Genre" category. Anything he does outside of that will sound off.
Ok, Young Money. Every Heard Of Good Music? Ever heard of KiD CuDi, Common, Big Sean, John Legend, Mos Def and Pusha T? Good Music is 10x better than Young Money. YM's best artist is Drake who he even said himself, "Stole his flow from BIG SEAN." Nicki Minaj, sucks really in my opinion. She tries to be the Lady Gaga of rap and she is failing in that campaign. Other than Wayne, Drake, and Nicki who on YM is marketable? No one. On the other side, all the artists I name off of Good Music are. KiD CuDi MOTM II sold more albums than his first. Finally Famous Vol 3. Scored an average of 4-5/5 Star ratings from critics. John Legend - Do I need To Explain? Mos Def - Do I Need To Explain? Pusha T just got signed, but if you haven't heard of him, he is that guy that finishes strong on Runaway.
Set lyrics? This is where Quality beats Quantity. What would you rather have: Half Good Songs or a finishing product that will satisfy you day's or weeks after. A perfect example of this is I Am Not A Human Being vs. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. If you were to take a poll on which of those 2 albums are better I guarantee that MBDTF will be on top.
The Taylor Swift thing. Really? Can you blame someone who likes to speak the truth when whenever he wants to? The Taylor shouldn't have been a surprise. Look at the Bush incident. A year later, the same people who look down on him for that is giving him praise. The TV program that Banned him from their network invited him back to an award show, named him Man Of The Year, & Best Album Of The Year. The only person I see is still crying foul is Taylor fans who really needs to get over it.
Good post. I can see you really listen to music.Rep.
I understand what you are saying, But I just can't listen to his music.With Wayne, Yeah, I can.I guess its because I've grown up on his music my whole life.Ya know, living in New Orleans and everything.Its Wayne or nothing here, even though its Taylor Gang or die. Haha.
Good post. I can see you really listen to music.Rep.
I understand what you are saying, But I just can't listen to his music.With Wayne, Yeah, I can.I guess its because I've grown up on his music my whole life.Ya know, living in New Orleans and everything.Its Wayne or nothing here, even though its Taylor Gang or die. Haha.
Haha yeah I get that. Wayne is good I'm not going to lie but he kind of lost me with I Am Not A Human Being
Haha yeah I get that. Wayne is good I'm not going to lie but he kind of lost me with I Am Not A Human Being
Yup Best worst album.
I can only listen to 3 songs on there. ;)
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puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 11:16 PM
Haha yeah I get that. Wayne is good I'm not going to lie but he kind of lost me with I Am Not A Human Being
Tha Carter III is where its at. Listen to that one and you will see why I like him.
Raiku
12-21-2010, 11:23 PM
A lot of people dont like Kanye because of what happened at the VMA's but in my opinion he is a pretty good rapper and so is Lil Wayne
Kuromaki
12-21-2010, 11:24 PM
I love Taylor but the VMAs wont affect my opinion of Kanye's music. I personally think it's better than Lil Wayne
PMP My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is better than the carter III
puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 11:28 PM
Lil Wayne repeats himself... ALOT. It's either Young Money, Blood Gang, Money, Sex, Weed. Thats over and over again. Yes Wayne had about 1-2 songs that was deep but that doesn't compare to Kanye's. Give me a Wayne song that can Match "Last Call"
Umm... personally I don't like "Last Call" but that is just me, so I can't really give you a song fairly.
Kanye is an rapper. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy justifies that. I know what exactly your talking about. Your talking about 808's & Heart Break which was an experimental Album. Heard 'EM Say, Touch The Sky, Diamonds From Sierra Leone, Can't Tell Me Nothing, Homecoming, and all of his last album excluding Runaway. The problem I have with Wayne he was too comfortable with his sound which made his fan base too relax. So when Wayne tried his Rock Album Stunt, he epically failed harder than Kanye's 808's.
"Rebirth" was supposed to just be extra songs from Tha Carter III, but he changed his mind and made it a rock album. In any case, if Kanye made a rock album I am sure that he would fail too.
With Kanye we don't get exactly one genre of Rap. We don't expect him to rap on every rap song. Which allowed him to grow. Wayne is stuck in the "One Genre" category. Anything he does outside of that will sound off.
True Kanye is expirimental with his music, witch is my favorite thing about him. However, if someone has "One Genre" and they are amazingly amazing at it, then it is just as good.
Ok, Young Money. Every Heard Of Good Music? Ever heard of KiD CuDi, Common, Big Sean, John Legend, Mos Def and Pusha T? Good Music is 10x better than Young Money. YM's best artist is Drake who he even said himself, "Stole his flow from BIG SEAN." Nicki Minaj, sucks really in my opinion. She tries to be the Lady Gaga of rap and she is failing in that campaign. Other than Wayne, Drake, and Nicki who on YM is marketable? No one. On the other side, all the artists I name off of Good Music are. KiD CuDi MOTM II sold more albums than his first. Finally Famous Vol 3. Scored an average of 4-5/5 Star ratings from critics. John Legend - Do I need To Explain? Mos Def - Do I Need To Explain? Pusha T just got signed, but if you haven't heard of him, he is that guy that finishes strong on Runaway.
No, I have never heard of "Good Music", but I will give them a listen.
Set lyrics? This is where Quality beats Quantity. What would you rather have: Half Good Songs or a finishing product that will satisfy you day's or weeks after. A perfect example of this is I Am Not A Human Being vs. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. If you were to take a poll on which of those 2 albums are better I guarantee that MBDTF will be on top.
I Am Not A Human Being was stupid, don't even mention that because it is dumb. However I think it is skilled to be able to freestyle in every song.
The Taylor Swift thing. Really? Can you blame someone who likes to speak the truth when whenever he wants to? The Taylor shouldn't have been a surprise. Look at the Bush incident. A year later, the same people who look down on him for that is giving him praise. The TV program that Banned him from their network invited him back to an award show, named him Man Of The Year, & Best Album Of The Year. The only person I see is still crying foul is Taylor fans who really needs to get over it.
Lol, I know I was totally kidding about that one.
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Jonesy
12-21-2010, 11:30 PM
Neither.
puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 11:32 PM
Also I feel I should say, Lil' Wayne is not my favorite rapper, he is just better then Kanye IMO. However Kanye is also amazing.
Yellow Flash
12-21-2010, 11:42 PM
The Carter III sucked. Carter was probably the best imo.
First off, Lil Wayne is fake as ;);););). He grew up in a rich family and has had everything given to him his entire life. Once he got into the rap business, there was Bird Man waiting there to sign him, which is what got him started considering Bird Man was huge back then. As for his song writing, it's mediocre at best and somebody probably does it for him. Don't even get me start on auto tune.
Kanye is a versatile artist and is a crowd pleaser. 808's & Heartbreak wasn't even a fail, so I don't know why people say it. Despite it not being a rap, it was still excellent. You know what, forget all of that. The album was in dedication to his mom, so that should be good enough for you right there. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was being rated high before the album even came out. The hype for it was ridiculous. MBDTF was great, but personally, I like his old stuff. As Yori said, things like "Last Call" as what make you remember that even though Kanye does stuff like 808's, be is still a beast rapper.
Young Money? HA. The only rapper I even like in there is Drake. Tyga is cool, but mediocre at best. Again, as Yori said, have you heard of Good Music? It has Kid Cudi in it, who single handedly takes out the entire Young Money group without any contest. Kid Cudi is my boy, and my second favorite in terms of music. The only person who tops him is Eminem, who is a straight beast.
Wayne sucks. I'd take B.o.B. over him any day.
And don't even get me started on how Jay-Z. Like Kanye I'll debate on how Jay is the best right now
puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 11:50 PM
The Carter III sucked. Carter was probably the best imo.
First off, Lil Wayne is fake as ;);););). He grew up in a rich family and has had everything given to him his entire life. Once he got into the rap business, there was Bird Man waiting there to sign him, which is what got him started considering Bird Man was huge back then. As for his song writing, it's mediocre at best and somebody probably does it for him. Don't even get me start on auto tune.
Really, man? He grew up in a rich family? How about you do research before you say stuff next time. Plus, even if he is from a rich family, why does it matter?
Kanye is a versatile artist and is a crowd pleaser. 808's & Heartbreak wasn't even a fail, so I don't know why people say it. Despite it not being a rap, it was still excellent. You know what, forget all of that. The album was in dedication to his mom, so that should be good enough for you right there. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was being rated high before the album even came out. The hype for it was ridiculous. MBDTF was great, but personally, I like his old stuff. As Yori said, things like "Last Call" as what make you remember that even though Kanye does stuff like 808's, be is still a beast rapper.
808's was a good album, but it wasn't a rap album, so we are not talking about that.
Young Money? HA. The only rapper I even like in there is Drake. Tyga is cool, but mediocre at best. Again, as Yori said, have you heard of Good Music? It has Kid Cudi in it, who single handedly takes out the entire Young Money group without any contest. Kid Cudi is my boy, and my second favorite in terms of music. The only person who tops him is Eminem, who is a straight beast.
Never heard of "Good Music". Notice you said the only rapper YOU like. Others can have opinions.
Wayne sucks. I'd take B.o.B. over him any day.
I wouldn't.
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puppetmasterpossession
12-21-2010, 11:50 PM
O, and just to be clear, I'm not trying to force an opinion on you.
Yellow Flash
12-21-2010, 11:53 PM
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1. He did, idiot.
The rest is just you being biased. I didn't mention any of the others in Good Music because it would just be repetitive. Yori already talked about it; I'm not going to be a copier.
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May I introduce you to Good Music
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BTW that guy Name Big Sean murdered the entire YM lyrically in the last video
puppetmasterpossession
12-22-2010, 12:10 AM
1. He did, idiot.
The rest is just you being biased. I didn't mention any of the others in Good Music because it would just be repetitive. Yori already talked about it; I'm not going to be a copier.
He grew up in Hollygrove, idiot.
I wasn't being biased, Yori already said 808's is not a rap album, and I just was saying that again.
Dude I'm not gonna debate with you, I can already tell you are one of the people who can't see the other persons side, so I am not debating with you anymore.
puppetmasterpossession
12-22-2010, 12:11 AM
BTW that guy Name Big Sean murdered the entire YM lyrically in the last video
Lol, I don't think YM is super amazing, so I don't doubt that.
Lol, I don't think YM is super amazing, so I don't doubt that.
Lol true. I feel bad for the other YM artists. I mean lets be serious who else on that crew is going to put up first week numbers and singles like Darke and Nicki? No one. Wayne should of help the other crew members before Nicki and Drake put out their albums.
Yellow Flash
12-22-2010, 12:19 AM
He grew up in Hollygrove, idiot.
I wasn't being biased, Yori already said 808's is not a rap album, and I just was saying that again.
Dude I'm not gonna debate with you, I can already tell you are one of the people who can't see the other persons side, so I am not debating with you anymore.
lolololol, okay, hypocrite. Sounds like you give up to me.
puppetmasterpossession
12-22-2010, 12:28 AM
lolololol, okay, hypocrite. Sounds like you give up to me.
Haha, yup that is exactly what I am doing, you are so smart. :lol:
puppetmasterpossession
12-22-2010, 12:29 AM
Lol true. I feel bad for the other YM artists. I mean lets be serious who else on that crew is going to put up first week numbers and singles like Darke and Nicki? No one. Wayne should of help the other crew members before Nicki and Drake put out their albums.
I agree with this. They were the best in the group, he should have helped gudda and everyone else first.
Lil Wayne is ok rapper, but he isn't lyrically serious. Kayne West is way above Wayne's level, Just like Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Jay Z, maybe even Drake to a certain extent. Any underground rapper can also murder Wayne on the mic.
shinmarubountyhunter
12-27-2010, 11:17 AM
Lil Wayne is ok rapper, but he isn't lyrically serious. Kayne West is way above Wayne's level, Just like Eminem, B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Jay Z, maybe even Drake to a certain extent. Any underground rapper can also murder Wayne on the mic.
Wayne would murder him in my opinion, but I like Kanye way more.
I'd like to see Lupe against wayne so that Lupe kills him.
Kayne can probably take out the whole Young Money lol. His only challenge would probably be Drake.
Shikamaru Nara
12-27-2010, 11:23 AM
Eminem, I choose you!
Devil's Lawyer
12-27-2010, 11:27 AM
Lil wayne is better. Far as album songs go they are pretty close. But as an artist and comming of the top lil Wayne is better.
shinmarubountyhunter
12-27-2010, 11:28 AM
Kayne can probably take out the whole Young Money lol. His only challenge would probably be Drake.
I hate young money as much as the next guy, but Lil Wayne is super lyrical. Kanye is okay lyrically. Lil Wayne would kill him. Drake isn't good. All he talks about his having sex. And he can't even sing.
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