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Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 01:17 PM
Location: Konoha crater

Distance: 50 meters

Bloodlusted

Konan gets prep

mikeiskewl922
12-17-2010, 01:19 PM
With prep? 600 Billion Paper bombs?

Raiku
12-17-2010, 01:28 PM
Yamato is a pretty smart person and is a prety good strategist. He has great jutsu he can use for both offence and defence so I think Yamato wins this one

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 01:45 PM
I don't. xD
Yamato can't touch Konan, at least not imo. Not meaning to sound like a wank, but literally she can go out of paper mode and avoid most of the attacks.
With prep, its a moses no jutsu gg...
But even without, she can just turn into a bunch of paper and avoid most of his attacks, then if she gets close enough she can just suffocate him with the paper mummy no jutsu.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 01:48 PM
Yamato can blend into his trees and into the earth. Not choosing a side just telling you that is one of his abilities.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 01:51 PM
My biggest thing is that blending won't do much against a moses no jutsu...
Also that hiding in the tree won't matter too much imo... Konan can fly iirc.
I don't see yamato landing a solid damaging hit on her. :(

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 02:49 PM
Depends Yamato can spamm a pretty massive forest and his trees has a pretty high tanking level. Recent turtle island feats prove this.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 03:00 PM
But can he hit her?

Ino<3
12-17-2010, 03:26 PM
konan... she could fly use the paper clone technique, bblow them up estroying any would and finish em off!

Kuromaki
12-17-2010, 04:05 PM
Yamato can make all the trees he wants but that still won't help him with getting past Konan's paper. SInce Konan has prep she just blows the whole place up.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 04:27 PM
Wood isn't Yamoto only ability don't forget the fact that Yamato can use a suiton. Which would nullify Konan jutsu.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 04:29 PM
Suiton has never stopped Konan's paper iirc

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 04:30 PM
No suiton in general but a liquid. Jiraiya used oil on her. Yamato suiton would have the same effect.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 04:44 PM
EDIT: Any oil =/= water

Anyways Suiton hasn't been shown to stop or even hinder Konan's paper.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 04:52 PM
Sage oil =/= water

There is no real difference in the effect it has on paper. Sage oil is heavier yes but water is still stronger than paper. The fact is her paper is useless. You shouldn't be arguing the effect. More whether or not he has a suiton large enough for he billion paper bomb jutsu.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 04:59 PM
There is no real difference in the effect it has on paper. Sage oil is heavier yes but water is still stronger than paper. The fact is her paper is useless. You shouldn't be arguing the effect. More whether or not he has a suiton large enough for he billion paper bomb jutsu.


I will argue the effect, good sir.
Proof that any element has had any effect on her paper, making it completely useless?

If her paper is just normal "paper" then Jirayia's fireball would've burnt it...
But instead her paper not only lasted through it, but her paper eventually matched and beat out the fireball iirc. Her paper is not normal regular paper, its something much much more than that.

Her paper is not made useless by water, fire, or the like. Proof before we go any further that it does or you lose your current argument over Yamato being able to do anything to hurt or make konan ineffective.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 05:17 PM
I will argue the effect, good sir.
Proof that any element has had any effect on her paper, making it completely useless?

If her paper is just normal "paper" then Jirayia's fireball would've burnt it...
But instead her paper not only lasted through it, but her paper eventually matched and beat out the fireball iirc. Her paper is not normal regular paper, its something much much more than that.

Her paper is not made useless by water, fire, or the like. Proof before we go any further that it does or you lose your current argument over Yamato being able to do anything to hurt or make konan ineffective.

Actually I retract my statement I went back and read it. Oil is her weakness and water doesn't effect since pain washed the oil away with water. But I did remember something interesting. Yamato only has to use his wooden shield. Which tanking level is definetly high enough to survive Konan blasts. ch 293 pg 14. Definetly can tank paper bombs.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 05:24 PM
Actually I retract my statement I went back and read it. Oil is her weakness and water doesn't effect since pain washed the oil away with water. But I did remember something interesting. Yamato only has to use his wooden shield. Which tanking level is definetly high enough to survive Konan blasts. ch 293 pg 14. Definetly can tank paper bombs.

I'm sure it could tank a few, but 600 billion... I'd need proof of THAT kind of tanking.

Moreso, what is the wood shield going to do? It can't cover him on all sides forever.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 05:46 PM
I'm sure it could tank a few, but 600 billion... I'd need proof of THAT kind of tanking.

Moreso, what is the wood shield going to do? It can't cover him on all sides forever.

Did you not see the how powerful that shockwave from kn4 was. Read ch 293 again. Way more powerful than Konan bombs. Which by the way did not show any massive damaging effects. Madara was tanking them with just his body. The shield is only for defensive purposes only. Konan is more likely to lose out if this battle turned into a war of attrition. She can only keep up the explosion for 10 minutes. Yamato has a pretty massive stamina. Also don't forget rock beats paper in real life.(Earth element)

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 05:53 PM
Did you not see the how powerful that shockwave from kn4 was. Read ch 293 again. Way more powerful than Konan bombs. Which by the way did not show any massive damaging effects. Madara was tanking them with just his body. The shield is only for defensive purposes only. Konan is more likely to lose out if this battle turned into a war of attrition. She can only keep up the explosion for 10 minutes. Yamato has a pretty massive stamina. Also don't forget rock beats paper in real life.(Earth element)

Kn4 shockwave toppled forests, but so did Temari's blade dance.
Your saying Moses no jutsu and 600 billion PBs < Blade dance?

Second is the shield looks to cover one side, but what good does the shield do? In 293 its on the ground, but I wanna see feats of him doing it mid-air and it being effective since MnJ drops him into a crevice.

Third is Madara didn't tank it with his body. He popped izanagi and simply revived himself. He had to knock off his sharingan to live through it, so I doubt he can tank it.

Next is the war of attribute. I need proof that Yamato can even touch Konan considering she can go intangible for a bit by turning into paper and generating more.

She can keep the explosion for 10 mins, which I don't think yamato can survive, and then she has enough skill on her own to paper wrap yamato and suffocate him.

Stamina =/= duribility =/= fighting suffocation

Last point is irrelevant.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 06:10 PM
Kn4 shockwave toppled forests, but so did Temari's blade dance.
Your saying Moses no jutsu and 600 billion PBs < Blade dance?

Second is the shield looks to cover one side, but what good does the shield do? In 293 its on the ground, but I wanna see feats of him doing it mid-air and it being effective since MnJ drops him into a crevice.

Third is Madara didn't tank it with his body. He popped izanagi and simply revived himself. He had to knock off his sharingan to live through it, so I doubt he can tank it.

Next is the war of attribute. I need proof that Yamato can even touch Konan considering she can go intangible for a bit by turning into paper and generating more.

She can keep the explosion for 10 mins, which I don't think yamato can survive, and then she has enough skill on her own to paper wrap yamato and suffocate him.

Stamina =/= duribility =/= fighting suffocation

Last point is irrelevant.

The fact is Konan paper bomb justsu is powerful and it is not. The mere fact that Madara is still breathing after tanking it with just his body proves my point. He used Izanagi after the fact he got hit with the attack the first time. Not only did kn4 shockwave topple forest it left that huge crater.

Konan doesn't have limitless paper. Again as I point out Yamato shield tanking level 10 min is easy. How will she wrap herself around Yamato if he is using his wooden shield. Don't say beacuse of the opening in the back. That would require a face palm if you do say that.

The issue isn't whether or not Yamato can defeat Konan. There is several reasons why. One he can always trap her and her boms into one of his wooden structures and drag her into the earth. Yes that is another ability of his. Yes he can make structures that large. Next reason you haven't provided ant proof of Konan bombs destroying Yamoto shield.

Lady Tsunade
12-17-2010, 06:18 PM
Water didn't stop her before , it isn't stopping her now. Unless Yamato has some special hax water.

Even if water could beat Konan, his reaction speed is too poor to be able to react to Konans speedy paper attacks, which can come from all directions, btw.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 06:21 PM
The fact is Konan paper bomb justsu is powerful and it is not. The mere fact that Madara is still breathing after tanking it with just his body proves my point. He used Izanagi after the fact he got hit with the attack the first time. Not only did kn4 shockwave topple forest it left that huge crater.

Konan doesn't have limitless paper. Again as I point out Yamato shield tanking level 10 min is easy. How will she wrap herself around Yamato if he is using his wooden shield. Don't say beacuse of the opening in the back. That would require a face palm if you do say that.

The issue isn't whether or not Yamato can defeat Konan. There is several reasons why. One he can always trap her and her boms into one of his wooden structures and drag her into the earth. Yes that is another ability of his. Yes he can make structures that large. Next reason you haven't provided ant proof of Konan bombs destroying Yamoto shield.

You need to prove to me that the half-circle dome can protect him from all sides. You can't because its open at the back.

Now lets toss him into some place that explodes on all sides and he can't use his shield because he is mid-air.
The shield might tank 300 billion, I need proof yamato can survive the 300 billion from the back.

He didn't tank it, otherwise he'd have no need to use Izanagi to help him survive it. He used Izanagi before dying to make his death non-reality. Proof that he survived or no dice on your part as far as this goes.

As far as that crater goes, Orochimaru was sitting point blank and survived it without any trouble iirc. It toppled forests but thats not even a good feat to note being that Temari can do the same thing, and Temari <<<<<<<<<<<< Konan.

I have also yet to see Konan run out of paper, and she can make much more than what makes up her body iirc she made a huge tree, an ocean, tell me please what the limit to it is?

As far as the shield's tanking ability goes, its a moot point. He is falling and theres no possible way for him to block an entire ocean exploding on all sides with the half-circle of a shield. Proof he can block all sides or Konan's MnJ solo kills this.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 06:52 PM
Water didn't stop her before , it isn't stopping her now. Unless Yamato has some special hax water.

Even if water could beat Konan, his reaction speed is too poor to be able to react to Konans speedy paper attacks, which can come from all directions, btw.

If you read on you would see I retracted that statement.

You need to prove to me that the half-circle dome can protect him from all sides. You can't because its open at the back.

You do know he can close it right if he has to. Konan doesn't exactly have any amazing speed feats.

Now lets toss him into some place that explodes on all sides and he can't use his shield because he is mid-air.
The shield might tank 300 billion, I need proof yamato can survive the 300 billion from the back.

The fact that he won't be in mid air. Why would he be in mid air. Next again there is the fact he can close it. You really didn't think that through.

He didn't tank it, otherwise he'd have no need to use Izanagi to help him survive it. He used Izanagi before dying to make his death non-reality. Proof that he survived or no dice on your part as far as this goes.

He was alive after the fact he got hit with the tech. Then he could still use jutsu. That is called tanking. Doesn't mean it didn't hurt.

As far as that crater goes, Orochimaru was sitting point blank and survived it without any trouble iirc. It toppled forests but thats not even a good feat to note being that Temari can do the same thing, and Temari <<<<<<<<<<<< Konan.

Thats because he is Orichimaru. His tanking level is that high, No need to bring him up.

I have also yet to see Konan run out of paper, and she can make much more than what makes up her body iirc she made a huge tree, an ocean, tell me please what the limit to it is?

Doesn't change the fact the story gave her a limit. I don't write the story just report the facts.

As far as the shield's tanking ability goes, its a moot point. He is falling and theres no possible way for him to block an entire ocean exploding on all sides with the half-circle of a shield. Proof he can block all sides or Konan's MnJ solo kills this.

One he can close the shield. Two he can create a structure large enough to contain Konan and bury her alive.

in red

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 07:24 PM
he'd be midair because he's being dropped into a crevice made by splitting an ocean of paper that you couldn't see the bottom of from the manga scan and the span of which is immense.

He used Izanagi to erase his own death before it happened. Reference the danzo fight. You activate, then you die, then it erases the death.

KN4 roar toppled trees
So the shield can tank trees.
Trees <<<< 600 billion paper bombs iirc

Next is that the story gave her an undefined limit, so you can't bring it in unless you can give me a number to go off of.

Finally is that if he closes it then he has to survive without air for 10 minutes. Proof that he can or the shield closing isn't viable

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 07:38 PM
he'd be midair because he's being dropped into a crevice made by splitting an ocean of paper that you couldn't see the bottom of from the manga scan and the span of which is immense.

He used Izanagi to erase his own death before it happened. Reference the danzo fight. You activate, then you die, then it erases the death.

KN4 roar toppled trees
So the shield can tank trees.
Trees <<<< 600 billion paper bombs iirc

Next is that the story gave her an undefined limit, so you can't bring it in unless you can give me a number to go off of.

Finally is that if he closes it then he has to survive without air for 10 minutes. Proof that he can or the shield closing isn't viable

Lolwut Madara was chasing her. Thats why they were in mid air. Yamato needs to be on land to use his jutsu anyways.

He still had to endure in order to activate Izanagi will he was being attacked.

Yamato was still in the balst rang and the shield was hit with the shockwave and trees. The chapter clearly show that. Also a paperbomb is not stronger than a tree anyways. Support your claim if you are gonna say that.

Doesn't matter about the limit. Yamato would use house no jutsu ad bury her alive in it.

Lol the fact he can. Creating another shield of wood on the other side is probably the least of his abilities. Come on now we use common sense on that one

What needs to be proved is whether or no Konan paper bomb jutsu is powerful enough to damage Yamato shield. Nothing else should be posted until proof is provided.

Shikamaru Nara
12-17-2010, 07:43 PM
Unless I happen to be missing something...Konan with prep means that no matter how many trees Yamato uses he will not be able to save himslef from the explosion.

And water will not be able to effect chakra infused paper. Only reason Sage Oil had any effect on Konan was because it was infused with Sage Chakra.

And we all know that sage chakra >>>> Regular chakra.

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 07:47 PM
Unless I happen to be missing something...Konan with prep means that no matter how many trees Yamato uses he will not be able to save himslef from the explosion.

And water will not be able to effect chakra infused paper. Only reason Sage Oil had any effect on Konan was because it was infused with Sage Chakra.

And we all know that sage chakra >>>> Regular chakra.

Read on you will see I retracted my statement on suiton. Also I am using an entirely different arguement for Yamato.

Shikamaru Nara
12-17-2010, 07:54 PM
What you are trying to get at is absolutely absurd.

With no amount of prep can Yamato prepare for an attack far outclassing a nuke in termsof power.

She had set up ten minutes worth of explosives when she fought Madara. Without an immense source of trees, there could be no way that Yamato has the durability in regular trees to tank bombs of such high caliber.

Yamato was not even able to escape Sasuke's linear attack with his Kusanagi blade. No way he is going to be able to react to or defend against ten minutes of artillery.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 07:57 PM
Lolwut Madara was chasing her. Thats why they were in mid air. Yamato needs to be on land to use his jutsu anyways.

He was on an ocean. Then the ocean split. Then he was dropped into it on the count of him not being able to walk on air. Thus, when the ocean opens, you fall into it.

He still had to endure in order to activate Izanagi will he was being attacked.

He didn't have to endure. He popped it right as his intagibility wore off and survived is most likely. You still have no proof of him tanking it at all before izanagi came into play.

Yamato was still in the balst rang and the shield was hit with the shockwave and trees. The chapter clearly show that. Also a paperbomb is not stronger than a tree anyways. Support your claim if you are gonna say that.

He was at an area past the forest line. This he was not in the "blast zone" otherwise he wouldn't have trees around him considering the roar leveled almost everything and made a crater. He likely blocked a bunch of trees, but the roar itself I don't think so.

As for a paperbomb being stronger than a tree, I don't even need to substantiate why an explosion provides more force than a stationary peice of wood. Even if the tree is flying by, it'll break as it hits the shield. If not for the sake of the shield being strong, from the force of the impact itself.

Yamato's shield tanks trees. Konan can fire off 600 billion explosives from all sides. In the end, the MnJ still wins.

Doesn't matter about the limit. Yamato would use house no jutsu ad bury her alive in it.

She can scatter herself and simply regen from the paper, if necessary at all. Yamato's house no jutsu is great, but he can't instantly enclose her in a house with no way out and bury her. The house would have to rise from somewhere, and in that case she can just fly away... Or MnJ Yamato while he is trying to trap her. From another view, iirc Yamato needs to touch the ground in order to sprout anything. If Konan preps MnJ, he's on paper.

Proof he can make earth objects without touching the earth itself?
Not that it matters, if he buries her in a house she can just probably spawn from the ocean of paper she prepped for.

Lol the fact he can. Creating another shield of wood on the other side is probably the least of his abilities. Come on now we use common sense on that one

Ok. He creates another shield, and the explosion goes into the gap of his shields. The pressure difference due to the heat of the explosions outside will force the air and explosions to go into his small dome, which will have a much lower pressure.

OR

He completely encloses himself as to where there are no gaps... And then suffocates unless you can provide proof that he can hold his breath for 10 minutes.

What needs to be proved is whether or no Konan paper bomb jutsu is powerful enough to damage Yamato shield. Nothing else should be posted until proof is provided.

We don't need to prove it can beat his shield because he's being dropped and explosions are going on all sides. The shield cannot cover all sides, so the shield point is useless. Proof he can tank 300 billion PBs or hold his breath for 10 minutes.

in red

Devil's Lawyer
12-17-2010, 08:18 PM
What you are trying to get at is absolutely absurd.

With no amount of prep can Yamato prepare for an attack far outclassing a nuke in termsof power.

She had set up ten minutes worth of explosives when she fought Madara. Without an immense source of trees, there could be no way that Yamato has the durability in regular trees to tank bombs of such high caliber.

Yamato was not even able to escape Sasuke's linear attack with his Kusanagi blade. No way he is going to be able to react to or defend against ten minutes of artillery.

Since when did he need prep to spamm his trees. There was no prep required when he used he shield to stop that blast in ch 243 pg 14. Konan is in no way as fast as Sasuke no comparison.

Also Frost ninja you need to check the location of this fight before you continue.

Frost ninja
12-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Since when did he need prep to spamm his trees. There was no prep required when he used he shield to stop that blast in ch 243 pg 14. Konan is in no way as fast as Sasuke no comparison.

Also Frost ninja you need to check the location of this fight before you continue.

The location is irrelevant.
Its an ocean of paper, I'm sure theres earth under it at some point, but its under an ocean of paper and 600 billion paperbombs.

Likewise, it could be on the moon for all that it matters, but in the end you'll be standing on an ocean of paper thats covering the moon.

Shikamaru Nara
12-18-2010, 07:55 AM
Since when did he need prep to spamm his trees. There was no prep required when he used he shield to stop that blast in ch 243 pg 14. Konan is in no way as fast as Sasuke no comparison.

Also Frost ninja you need to check the location of this fight before you continue.

It takes a while to use them in large quantities. Yeah, but he'll need a hell of a lot more trees for that. Which would take time.

Devil's Lawyer
12-18-2010, 12:04 PM
It takes no time for him to use his basic jutsu like his shield. Also he was spamming those buildings during the village repair scene. Frost ninja I don't see your point. Yamato jutsu would easily block any attempt of Konan paper surrounding him. Overall I say Yamato takes this with high difficulty. His skill and the strength of his wood surpasses Konan. The fact thathe can hold Naruto when he starts changing into his Kyuubi form testifies his wood strength.

ItachixKisame
12-18-2010, 12:10 PM
Hmm.. right. So if and when Konan uses her Moses no jutsu Yamato falls into an (endless?) abyss and let's assume that Yamato can activate his wood shield midair and then Konan activates her technique and the papers bombs start to explode. First 1 paper bomb wears off his armor a bit, then second paper bomb does the same but whatabout after the 600 billion paper bombs have exploded what's going to be left of Yamato's shield...? I wonder..

Devil's Lawyer
12-18-2010, 12:14 PM
Again where is this mid air stuff coming from. As far as the bombs go you do know he can attack too. He is easily create something to block it using his wood extremely flexible jutsu. House no jutsu for instance. Thats one of my favorites.

ItachixKisame
12-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Because during her fight with Madara the lake split in half and Madara fell into the abyss.. if you are falling you are in the air.

Devil's Lawyer
12-18-2010, 12:40 PM
Thats because they were fighting on a lake. Which the location of this fight is not. Anyways I said my peace I am out.

Shadow Shinigami
12-18-2010, 06:29 PM
Actually I retract my statement I went back and read it. Oil is her weakness and water doesn't effect since pain washed the oil away with water. But I did remember something interesting. Yamato only has to use his wooden shield. Which tanking level is definetly high enough to survive Konan blasts. ch 293 pg 14. Definetly can tank paper bombs.
Fail much? He used foam not water.

Shikamaru Nara
12-18-2010, 06:40 PM
Fail.

Does the substance matter?

ChINaMaN1472
12-18-2010, 09:27 PM
10 minutes of continuous explosions in a giant crater. Yamato isn't winning this.

Devil's Lawyer
12-19-2010, 03:43 PM
10 minutes of continuous explosions in a giant crater. Yamato isn't winning this.

The fact that his wood held a creature way stronger than those explosions on multiple occassions begs to differ.

Frost ninja
12-22-2010, 08:27 PM
The fact that his wood held a creature way stronger than those explosions on multiple occassions begs to differ.

The fact that he has the first hokage's (?) chakras and his wood is made specifically for containment of the nine-tails begs to differ with this opinion that the nine-tails holding is a viable feat.

The whole reason he was picked, iirc, is because of his ability to contain the nine-tails

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 04:04 PM
The fact that he has the first hokage's (?) chakras and his wood is made specifically for containment of the nine-tails begs to differ with this opinion that the nine-tails holding is a viable feat.

The whole reason he was picked, iirc, is because of his ability to contain the nine-tails

Still doesn't change the fact that his wood held down the Kn4. The fwood isn't designed of the specifically for the containment 9 tails. It was just that powerful to the point the first could control the beasts.

Frost ninja
12-23-2010, 04:16 PM
Still doesn't change the fact that his wood held down the Kn4. The fwood isn't designed of the specifically for the containment 9 tails. It was just that powerful to the point the first could control the beasts.

Your point is still invalid with the overall battle.
If he wood can contain naruto, thats great...

However with the ocean of paper, he can't raise a house iirc.
Likewise, due to konan being able to disperse and the like, I don't see a possible way of hitting her.

Finally, with the ocean of paper splitting, Yamato is left mid-air while falling into 10 minutes of explosives, and since the shield won't prove to save him in any way, you have no ground to stand on.

J-Sun Tasogare
12-23-2010, 04:21 PM
Still doesn't change the fact that his wood held down the Kn4. The fwood isn't designed of the specifically for the containment 9 tails. It was just that powerful to the point the first could control the beasts.

No, KN4 was about to snap out of it until Yamato used the necklace to calm him.

And manga didn't even show him moving until that point, so he held back an inactive Kn4

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 04:26 PM
Your point is still invalid with the overall battle.
If he wood can contain naruto, thats great...

However with the ocean of paper, he can't raise a house iirc.
Likewise, due to konan being able to disperse and the like, I don't see a possible way of hitting her.

Finally, with the ocean of paper splitting, Yamato is left mid-air while falling into 10 minutes of explosives, and since the shield won't prove to save him in any way, you have no ground to stand on.

Never said he could what I said was he can easily block Konan paper bomb attack with his shield. Seeing as how it survived that shockwave from Kn4 unscathed.


Next yamato won't be in mid air. Seeing as the location is not the same as the place she fought Madara. There was no ground beneath Madara in the first place. Since Yamato won't be mid air s your point is rejected.

Far as the scattering occurs Yamato can counter. There is his shield which Konan can't destroy. If she does he makes another one before it collapses that simple. Next fact is Yamato created a section of the village in mere moments. Creating something to contain Konans Paper is well within the scope of his power.

No, KN4 was about to snap out of it until Yamato used the necklace to calm him.

And manga didn't even show him moving until that point, so he held back an inactive Kn4

Yamato shield still blocked a shockwave from Kn4. Whis was way more powerful than anything Konan paper bombs have shown.

J-Sun Tasogare
12-23-2010, 04:32 PM
Never said he could what I said was he can easily block Konan paper bomb attack with his shield. Seeing as how it survived that shockwave from Kn4 unscathed.


Next yamato won't be in mid air. Seeing as the location is not the same as the place she fought Madara. There was no ground beneath Madara in the first place. Since Yamato won't be mid air s your point is rejected.

Far as the scattering occurs Yamato can counter. There is his shield which Konan can't destroy. If she does he makes another one before it collapses that simple. Next fact is Yamato created a section of the village in mere moments. Creating something to contain Konans Paper is well within the scope of his power.



Yamato shield still blocked a shockwave from Kn4. Whis was way more powerful than anything Konan paper bombs have shown.

Except the speed to destroy one of Madara's arms, and the ability to catch him off guard even with the Sharingan which can see chakra

And when was this, all I saw was him swiping at Sakura a little and her getting pwned.

Also when he transformed into Kn4 which wasn't a direct shockwave, and Sai easily tanked with ink.

Skrall
12-23-2010, 04:36 PM
No suiton in general but a liquid. Jiraiya used oil on her. Yamato suiton would have the same effect.

Water Jutsus won't be a problem to Konan. She can use her weakness (fire) to dry her paper. She used the same thing while fighting Shino in the Invasion of Pain arc.

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 04:45 PM
Except the speed to destroy one of Madara's arms, and the ability to catch him off guard even with the Sharingan which can see chakra

And when was this, all I saw was him swiping at Sakura a little and her getting pwned.

Also when he transformed into Kn4 which wasn't a direct shockwave, and Sai easily tanked with ink.

Sai was in the air away from the attack. Yamato was right at the edge of the shockwave catching the force of it.ch 293 pg 14 That speed doesn't matter if she can't land a hit on Yamato who defensive skills are pretty powerful apparently.

All that is left for Yamato to do is either surve her onslaught of attacks for 10 minutes. Which he can. Or use his wood to contain her.
Water Jutsus won't be a problem to Konan. She can use her weakness (fire) to dry her paper. She used the same thing while fighting Shino in the Invasion of Pain arc.

I know this read on after the water post.

J-Sun Tasogare
12-23-2010, 04:47 PM
Sai was in the air away from the attack. Yamato was right at the edge of the shockwave catching the force of it. That speed doesn't matter if she can't land a hit on Yamato who defensive skills are pretty powerful apparently.

All that is left for Yamato to do is either surve her onslaught of attacks for 10 minutes. Which he can. Or use his wood to contain her.

She already has the ground entirely made out of paperbombs by that time, meaning he won't be able to use that defensive move in mid air.

She could easily turn to paper to remove herself from whatever he uses to contain her.

Also, thousands of paperbombs exploding from multiple directions>One Shockwave.

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 04:51 PM
She already has the ground entirely made out of paperbombs by that time, meaning he won't be able to use that defensive move in mid air.

She could easily turn to paper to remove herself from whatever he uses to contain her.

Also, thousands of paperbombs exploding from multiple directions>One Shockwave.

Crap forgot I gave her that type of prep.:lol: Seeing as you have made a seriously good point I will give you the battle.

J-Sun Tasogare
12-23-2010, 04:56 PM
Crap forgot I gave her that type of prep.:lol: Seeing as you have made a seriously good point I will give you the battle.

Yeah, and thanks. But you could take away prep, then it'd be a good battle, just make another thread or something xD.

Frost ninja
12-23-2010, 10:30 PM
You give him the battle, but I stated the same point for the past like 2 pages...
You deny me, but accept him.
I do believe I have been trolled, or it feels like it.

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 10:37 PM
No not once did you say that. What you said was Yamato was in the air and I am like what. If you pointed out the fact that Konan could have spreaded her bombs on the ground before the match due to prep. I would have conceded along time ago.

Frost ninja
12-23-2010, 10:41 PM
No not once did you say that. What you said was Yamato was in the air and I am like what. If you pointed out the fact that Konan could have spreaded her bombs on the ground before the match due to prep. I would have conceded along time ago.

I did.
I said due to moses no jutsu he is standing on paper, thus being unable to raise houses.

Then when you asked why he is in mid-air, I brought up how the splitting of the paper ocean puts him in mid-air.

However with the ocean of paper, he can't raise a house iirc.
Likewise, due to konan being able to disperse and the like, I don't see a possible way of hitting her.

Finally, with the ocean of paper splitting, Yamato is left mid-air while falling into 10 minutes of explosives, and since the shield won't prove to save him in any way, you have no ground to stand on.

From me, like earlier today.

Devil's Lawyer
12-23-2010, 11:08 PM
Well all I can say is my bad.

Frost ninja
12-23-2010, 11:12 PM
It's all good. I can sometimes misword things.
I wasn't trying to be upset, I promise. the ;););) was unnecessary and I do apologize.

Lady Tsunade
12-24-2010, 09:21 AM
A BL Konan at 50 metres easily blows up Yamato with ten minutes of constant explosions

Unless the OP or anyone else has a problem, is it okay if I lock this?

J-Sun Tasogare
12-24-2010, 09:23 AM
Go ahead

Lady Tsunade
12-24-2010, 09:30 AM
Amg, I've never locked something before. Except the bathroom door, but not sure if that counts O_o

/Locked.