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skillr
12-16-2010, 03:12 PM
NOO JAASHIN RIITUAL:mad:

location: the top of mount myoboku

distance 50 meters

tenten knows that she has to decapitate him

Shikamaru Nara
12-16-2010, 03:16 PM
TenTen has no way of possible ever beating Hidan. She has no decapacitating moves that would work.

AfroMan
12-16-2010, 03:19 PM
TenTen has no way of possible ever beating Hidan. She has no decapacitating moves that would work.

Tenten has swords...she's also proabably way better with weapons then Hidan is. His immortally doesn't mean anything if he can't use his ritual

Shikamaru Nara
12-16-2010, 03:20 PM
Tenten has swords...she's also proabably way better with weapons then Hidan is. His immortally doesn't mean anything if he can't use his ritual

Really.

So I assume that you think that when she gets in close range, then he won't stab her to death.

skillr
12-16-2010, 03:27 PM
i think she cud deflect his weapons and decapitate him at long range

Shikamaru Nara
12-16-2010, 03:28 PM
At long range?

He's not slow.
50 meters is nothing.

tyrell4life194
12-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Hidan kept up with Asuma, whom blitzed a group of Jonin. In other words, Hidan speedblitzes Tenten.

AfroMan
12-16-2010, 03:32 PM
Really.

So I assume that you think that when she gets in close range, then he won't stab her to death.

Like I said, Tenten is a weapons specialist giving them her an edge against Hidan. Also, his scythe isn't a killing weapon and he would have a lot of trouble just hitting her, therefore Tenten would win this with little difficulty

Shikamaru Nara
12-16-2010, 03:36 PM
Like I said, Tenten is a weapons specialist giving them her an edge against Hidan. Also, his scythe isn't a killing weapon and he would have a lot of trouble just hitting her, therefore Tenten would win this with little difficulty

Because....he can't dodge? He has dodged Asuma's Shuriken pretty well and was totally caught off guard.

He has fine reactions.

tyrell4life194
12-16-2010, 04:28 PM
Also, Hidan kept up with Kakashi. Tenten isn't matching his speed, and therefore, gets speedblitzed.

mikeiskewl922
12-16-2010, 06:44 PM
Plus, Hidan is immortal. So her weapons wouldn't really effect him.

tyrell4life194
12-17-2010, 07:12 AM
Yeah. This is basically a stomp thread. Someone lock this thread.

Lady Tsunade
12-17-2010, 09:08 AM
Nah. Don't lock.

Obviously he's referring to Anime Tenten, who has feats. Otherwise, he wouldn't be making this thread.

And if that is the case, Tenten wins. She jumps into the air, rains explosive kunai, and Hidan - who has no particularly great movement speed, gets blown up. The kunai are probably just as fast as him anyway. Especially during the Three Tails Arc, when her tools are barely visible as they are shot out.

tyrell4life194
12-17-2010, 11:01 AM
Nah. Don't lock.

Obviously he's referring to Anime Tenten, who has feats. Otherwise, he wouldn't be making this thread.

And if that is the case, Tenten wins. She jumps into the air, rains explosive kunai, and Hidan - who has no particularly great movement speed, gets blown up. The kunai are probably just as fast as him anyway. Especially during the Three Tails Arc, when her tools are barely visible as they are shot out.
Incorrect.

Hidan easily kept up with Kakashi, whom is Transonic. Tenten doesn't have the necessary speed to keep up with him.

Also, Hidan tanked a Burning Ash Technique from Asuma. Tenten's explosives won't kill him, nor any of her weapons.

Besides, Hidan can dodge all the weapons. And there is no proof that the kunai are as fast as him. I would love to see a Manga scan please.

Overall, Hidan stomps this.

NBT
12-17-2010, 11:02 AM
If speed was equal.............nevermind she'd still get owned.

Lady Tsunade
12-17-2010, 12:02 PM
Incorrect.

Hidan easily kept up with Kakashi, whom is Transonic. Tenten doesn't have the necessary speed to keep up with him.

Also, Hidan tanked a Burning Ash Technique from Asuma. Tenten's explosives won't kill him, nor any of her weapons.

Besides, Hidan can dodge all the weapons. And there is no proof that the kunai are as fast as him. I would love to see a Manga scan please.

Overall, Hidan stomps this.

Mind giving some proof , or calculations of how you worked out that Kakashi is transonic? Tenten doesn't need to keep up with him, its her tools that are doing the damage, not her.

Burning ash doesn't blow off your limbs, explosive kunai do. Hidans legs, or better yet - head. Are going flying off.

Hidan has great reaction speed. Not movement speed. Doubt he's dodging the sheer number of Tentens kunai. And obviously since all of these feats are from anime, I can't give you a manga scan :L Go back to when Tenten uses Heavenly Chain of Destruction on her clone in the Rescue Gaara arc. They're so fast they appear as white flashes, and when she uses Twin Rising Dragons on Gozu, Kigiri, Nurari etc. in the Three Tails Arc, they appear as black streaks as they move - showing their great speed. Speed is much more easily determined in the anime than it is in the manga, after all.

Bare in mind, this is just anime , in the manga all Tenten has is a kunai bomb. Which obviously isn't killing Hidan.

mikeiskewl922
12-17-2010, 01:11 PM
So Tenten's kunai are faster then Kakashi? Because Hidan's speed = Hidan's speed, correct?

Kuromaki
12-17-2010, 04:09 PM
No filler moves are specified in the OP. Hidan just tanks all of her attacks or deflects them with his scythe and goes in for the kill. Besides, Kakuzu's elemental blast>>>>>>>>Bunch of weapons from Canon Tenten.

Hidan has better speed feats than Tenten. He kept up with Kakashi, which is better than anything she's ever shown. So if Tenten can't keep her distance, he proceeds to stomp even harder.

tyrell4life194
12-17-2010, 06:00 PM
Mind giving some proof , or calculations of how you worked out that Kakashi is transonic? Tenten doesn't need to keep up with him, its her tools that are doing the damage, not her.

Burning ash doesn't blow off your limbs, explosive kunai do. Hidans legs, or better yet - head. Are going flying off.

Hidan has great reaction speed. Not movement speed. Doubt he's dodging the sheer number of Tentens kunai. And obviously since all of these feats are from anime, I can't give you a manga scan :L Go back to when Tenten uses Heavenly Chain of Destruction on her clone in the Rescue Gaara arc. They're so fast they appear as white flashes, and when she uses Twin Rising Dragons on Gozu, Kigiri, Nurari etc. in the Three Tails Arc, they appear as black streaks as they move - showing their great speed. Speed is much more easily determined in the anime than it is in the manga, after all.

Bare in mind, this is just anime , in the manga all Tenten has is a kunai bomb. Which obviously isn't killing Hidan.
Here's the thing. You can't quantify speed in Anime or in Manga. It's literally impossible, and even if you succeed in doing so, it's very unlikely that it's correct. That's why we use Powerscaling and Speed Comparison. Check it out. Kakashi was able to match Hidan's pace, whom was able to keep up with Asuma, whom blitzed a group of Jonin. He's likely bound to be Transonic speed.

It won't kill him, and Hidan can dodge them.

Wrong again. Watch the Anime. He not only kept up with Asuma, but he also kept up with Kakashi. Your point? Hidan appeared as black flashes, and you can't quantify Tenten's speed of the Heavenly Chain of Destruction.

Lady Tsunade
12-17-2010, 06:32 PM
Here's the thing. You can't quantify speed in Anime or in Manga. It's literally impossible, and even if you succeed in doing so, it's very unlikely that it's correct. That's why we use Powerscaling and Speed Comparison. Check it out. Kakashi was able to match Hidan's pace, whom was able to keep up with Asuma, whom blitzed a group of Jonin. He's likely bound to be Transonic speed.

It won't kill him, and Hidan can dodge them.

Wrong again. Watch the Anime. He not only kept up with Asuma, but he also kept up with Kakashi. Your point? Hidan appeared as black flashes, and you can't quantify Tenten's speed of the Heavenly Chain of Destruction.

So then, if you can't quantify the speed yourself. Why make an assumption? Particulary one , where you're saying Kakashi is transonic, because he can keep up with Hidan? You realise Hidan is nowhere near such speeds, right?

Proof of such movement speed.

Aaaand? I don't remember any time in which Hidan moved any great distance. Or avoided a particulary fast attack from either Kakashi or Asuma. I'm crap at maths, I don't do calcs. I base speed on what I see. Tools were white flashes, and travelled a huge distance in moments, Kakashi - while attacking Hidan, was perfectly seeable. I don't recall him launching any truely fast close range attacks.

tyrell4life194
12-17-2010, 08:58 PM
So then, if you can't quantify the speed yourself. Why make an assumption? Particulary one , where you're saying Kakashi is transonic, because he can keep up with Hidan? You realise Hidan is nowhere near such speeds, right?

Proof of such movement speed.

Aaaand? I don't remember any time in which Hidan moved any great distance. Or avoided a particulary fast attack from either Kakashi or Asuma. I'm crap at maths, I don't do calcs. I base speed on what I see. Tools were white flashes, and travelled a huge distance in moments, Kakashi - while attacking Hidan, was perfectly seeable. I don't recall him launching any truely fast close range attacks.
Didn't you read my whole comment before you posted one of your own? You can't quantify speed in Anime because it's never exactly accurate. You can try to quantify it, by using distance/time. But we don't know the exact distance, and since it's Anime, we only know the time. That's why we use Powerscaling and/or Speed Comparison.

Episode 77. Hidan kept up with Asume, while avoiding Shikamaru's Shadow Sewing Technique at the same time. Now, give me proof of Tenten reaching such speeds.

Speed=distance/time. You can move to a location at a lesser distance, at a lesser time, while someone can move to the same location at a longer distance, at a longer time, and still have the same speed. Hidan, while attacking Asuma, only created a flash. Your point?

Akatsuki X
12-18-2010, 02:10 AM
Hidan was able to keep up for the most part with Kakashi during their fight.

Unless someone honestly wants to convince me that TenTen>>Kakashi in speed, that TenTen is not gonna be keeping up.

Plus the fact that the majority of her weapons won't be doing to well due to the fact that Hidan is very versatile with his scythe, and being immortal also helps.

The only real chance she would have would be with explosive kunai spam, which he could probably deflect.

tyrell4life194
12-18-2010, 06:50 AM
Finally,you're the first person to get it.

Lady Tsunade
12-18-2010, 07:16 AM
Didn't you read my whole comment before you posted one of your own? You can't quantify speed in Anime because it's never exactly accurate. You can try to quantify it, by using distance/time. But we don't know the exact distance, and since it's Anime, we only know the time. That's why we use Powerscaling and/or Speed Comparison.

Episode 77. Hidan kept up with Asume, while avoiding Shikamaru's Shadow Sewing Technique at the same time. Now, give me proof of Tenten reaching such speeds.

Speed=distance/time. You can move to a location at a lesser distance, at a lesser time, while someone can move to the same location at a longer distance, at a longer time, and still have the same speed. Hidan, while attacking Asuma, only created a flash. Your point?

Animes a heck of a lot more accurate than Manga. A HECK of a lot. Since we actually see the movement for ourselves, and its not split up into panels, which could by the way - have any given time in between them. Its not like each panel has a specific time period in between. All we can do in the manga is compare speed tbh. The anime isn't limited to that, as we actually see them moving. Powerscaling isn't accurate.

Tentens tools moved at speeds unseeable to the eye. Looked a heck of a lot faster to me. Note I'm not saying Tenten is faster. I'm saying her tools are. Unless Hidan can somehow instantly move 50 metres before Tenten shunshins into the air and rains tools, he isn't winning.

Indeed. You can. But unless you give me proof of Hidan being able to sustain that speed for such time that he could travel 50 metres instantly, your point is irrelevant. We can't assume that because Hidan can travel a small distance so quickly he appears as a flash, that he'd be able to do the same with a large distance like this one. Tentens tools have travelled great distances, at great speeds. Their average speed is likely to much higher than Hidans. I'm sure Hidan can dodge a few, but with larger attacks which unleash tools that cover more area, he can't dodge them all, particulary if Tenten decides to blow all her tools up, or if she attaches chakra strings to her tools and repeats her attacks over and over.

Hidan was able to keep up for the most part with Kakashi during their fight.

Unless someone honestly wants to convince me that TenTen>>Kakashi in speed, that TenTen is not gonna be keeping up.

Plus the fact that the majority of her weapons won't be doing to well due to the fact that Hidan is very versatile with his scythe, and being immortal also helps.

The only real chance she would have would be with explosive kunai spam, which he could probably deflect.

Indeed. But I don't recall Kakashi showing any particulary great speed during that match, or at least - any which Hidan managed to outmanuever . I'm positive Hidan could dodge and block some tools with his sythe. But certainly not all of them.

Tenten does not>>Kakashi in speed, at all - even nearly. Her tools look very fast though, Kakashi could probably dodge with shunshins, as long as Tenten doesn't use a jutsu like Heavenly Chain of Destruction , with covers a large range, which I don't believe Kakashi could shunshin himself out of. He'd have to hide underground or something.

Hidans sythe is made for scratching and slicing. Not blocking attacks from kunai, swords, shuriken etc. particulary explosive ones.

If she was able to summon her kunai bomb from her scroll quickly, perhaps. But she has never shown that ability. At least, not as quickly as she summons weapons while using HCOD, or during the Guren Arc.

tyrell4life194
12-18-2010, 07:39 AM
Animes a heck of a lot more accurate than Manga. A HECK of a lot. Since we actually see the movement for ourselves, and its not split up into panels, which could by the way - have any given time in between them. Its not like each panel has a specific time period in between. All we can do in the manga is compare speed tbh. The anime isn't limited to that, as we actually see them moving. Powerscaling isn't accurate.

Tentens tools moved at speeds unseeable to the eye. Looked a heck of a lot faster to me. Note I'm not saying Tenten is faster. I'm saying her tools are. Unless Hidan can somehow instantly move 50 metres before Tenten shunshins into the air and rains tools, he isn't winning.

Indeed. You can. But unless you give me proof of Hidan being able to sustain that speed for such time that he could travel 50 metres instantly, your point is irrelevant. We can't assume that because Hidan can travel a small distance so quickly he appears as a flash, that he'd be able to do the same with a large distance like this one. Tentens tools have travelled great distances, at great speeds. Their average speed is likely to much higher than Hidans. I'm sure Hidan can dodge a few, but with larger attacks which unleash tools that cover more area, he can't dodge them all, particulary if Tenten decides to blow all her tools up, or if she attaches chakra strings to her tools and repeats her attacks over and over.



Indeed. But I don't recall Kakashi showing any particulary great speed during that match, or at least - any which Hidan managed to outmanuever . I'm positive Hidan could dodge and block some tools with his sythe. But certainly not all of them.

Tenten does not>>Kakashi in speed, at all - even nearly. Her tools look very fast though, Kakashi could probably dodge with shunshins, as long as Tenten doesn't use a jutsu like Heavenly Chain of Destruction , with covers a large range, which I don't believe Kakashi could shunshin himself out of. He'd have to hide underground or something.

Hidans sythe is made for scratching and slicing. Not blocking attacks from kunai, swords, shuriken etc. particulary explosive ones.

If she was able to summon her kunai bomb from her scroll quickly, perhaps. But she has never shown that ability. At least, not as quickly as she summons weapons while using HCOD, or during the Guren Arc.
That's why we can tell time in Anime. Powerscaling is used a lot. It isn't prohibited. Therefore, it can be used.

Incorrect. I just gave you the proof. Also, Speed=distance/time. Hidan can move to a location at less distance at less time, and Asuma can move at the same location at longer distance at a longer time, and still have the same speed. My point is, it don't matter highly when it comes to distance, but it matters more when you include time into the equation. Wrong again. We can't assume that Tenten has higher average speed than Hidan's because she hasn't shown any speed feats in Naruto Shippuuden. Hidan kept up with Asuma, whom blitzed a group of Jonin. Hidan also kept up with Kakashi with ease, something that even Zabuza had trouble doing.

Hidan can dodge that Jutsu with a Shunshin. The Jutsu won't do Tenten good if she can't hither target.

He doesn't need the scythe for defense. He's immortal, and her explosives only matter if they hit their target. We know that Hidan can't use his Jutsus because they take too much prep time, so he will have to rely on speed. Which Tenten has never shown in Naruto Shippuuden. Therefore, she gets speedblitzed.

ItachixKisame
12-18-2010, 12:18 PM
Well I am pretty sure that Hidan can draw out a little bit ot Tenten's blood and then Hidan would just do his *whatever masochist technique* and Hidan would stab himself. The end for Tenten.

mikeiskewl922
12-18-2010, 04:49 PM
I still don't see how TenTen is at all faster then Hidan. I mean sure her weapon's may be his speed, but wouldn't he be able to tank them?
As for explosives, don't they take some time to explode? At least fast enough for Hidan to move. And if not, didn't he also tank Zakuzu's HUGE elemental attacks? I'm sure he can tank a minor explosive paper. Sakura did.
Sorry if someone else said this, but i don't see how this thread is still going.