minato vs gai

[HachibiXSenpai]

i place bet on minato.:mrgreen:

[Kuromaki]

What exactly can Minato do against 7 Gates Guy.

Although if Minato has hype on his speed, he can take it. Space Time Barrier could possibly warp Guy away considering he does close range fighting, and Minato would be far faster than base Guy anyway.

[Shikamaru Nara]

What exactly can Minato do against 7 Gates Guy.

Although if Minato has hype on his speed, he can take it. Space Time Barrier could possibly warp Guy away considering he does close range fighting, and Minato would be far faster than base Guy anyway.

You act as if he starts in there?

If his speed is not false, he should be able to do Hiraishin before it's game over.

[321zigzag3]

Gai only stands a chance in gates mode. However if Minato some how forces Gai to waste his temporary mode then he loses or if Minato rasengans Gai before Gai goes gates.

[Midnight789]

Gai only stands a chance in gates mode. However if Minato some how forces Gai to waste his temporary mode then he loses or if Minato rasengans Gai before Gai goes gates.

there is no way Minato is going to take down Gai in close combat, if gai goes gates, its just overkill. do you see what he did to Kisame. it was seconds after Gai open the gates that the match was over. and Minato is not faster than Gai in base. it is only his lightning god technique which is telaportation. prove to me in the manga or the show that Minato is faster than Gai. Prove it! because when we saw lee in the cuhini exam take on Gaara without his weight we say how incredibly fast he. and that was when he was only a chuni. prove to me Minato is faster than Lee before we even talk about Gai because we all know that Gai is way faster than lee. just take a look at there training methods. all of that is based on increasing there speed especially if they are only specializing in Tai-Justu.

[Kuromaki]

You act as if he starts in there?

If his speed is not false, he should be able to do Hiraishin before it's game over.
which is why I added the part at the bottom. Gates only takes a short time to use.

...ohai Michelle `:P

[Snake1993]

minato wins. if kakashi can defeat him, then why minato cant? minato is faster than kakashi. Gai loses against or kakashi or minato.... they are both strong and fast.

[tyrell4life194]

Well, I looked in the Manga for Kisame vs Gai, and the Gates takes very little prep time. Minato isn't winning this.

[Ultimate combatant]

It`s like this.

Minato "supposedly" has no feats to keep up with base Gai/Guy.

While it`s obvious Minato wins story wise, we have to go by feats, since it`s not stated otherwise.

However, I see one interesting thing. If Gai/Guy goes gates immediately, he needs a bit of time, not much, but still, more than enough for Minato to beat him with Hiraishin and then Rasengan.

[ko lee]

Since the starting distance goes to default Guy has more then enough time to go 6 gates. Followed by Minato getting a Morning Peacock to the face. Might Guy stomps this.

[Ultimate combatant]

But don`t forget Minato will have time to throw his Kunai.

[ko lee]

He can throw his Kunai but he won't be able to clear the distance before Guy would be in gates and be able to easily react to Minato attacks

[Nyruss]

Base Gai can rape this. 7 Gates is overkill.

[Frost ninja]

I'm not 100% sure, correct me if I'm wrong.

When he was chasing kisame, it looked like he skipped gates 1-5 and just auto-popped 6. Yes or no? If so, then would it be assumable that he can choose which gates he opens?

[ko lee]

He did he opened directly into the 6th gate I can give you a chapter and page if you want Frost Ninja.

[Frost ninja]

that'd be great because that means he can go direct into 7th gate and blitz, or can he not?

[Invisible Fog]

Guy moves back, farther than Minato can through. Gates. Then Guy blitzes.

[Inuyasha]

In terms of skill and war Minato wins

but in terms of power Gai FTW

[Invisible Fog]

In terms of battle Guy WINS

This is a battle not hype.

[ko lee]

that'd be great because that means he can go direct into 7th gate and blitz, or can he not?
Sorry it took so long I got busy Chapter 506 pg 7

[Inuyasha]

In terms of battle Guy WINS

This is a battle not hype.


thats why in my second statement i have Gai FTW

[Invisible Fog]

In terms of skill and war Minato wins

Contradictions

[tyrell4life194]

Again, Gai stomps this. End. Of. Discussion.

[Marik Swift]

Who ever says Gai is going to win is not too smart.
Minato can choose to kill Gai in a split second if he wants if Gai some how gets the 7th gate(which will not happen)then Minato can just simply use Flying Thunder God and either seal gates or kill him.
And in the tai issue it's states: One of Minato's trademark attributes was his immense speed and seemingly instantaneous reflexes.
So Minato wins about 0.001 milliseconds after the announcer states go(jk).

[Frost ninja]

Who ever says Gai is going to win is not too smart.
Minato can choose to kill Gai in a split second if he wants if Gai some how gets the 7th gate(which will not happen)then Minato can just simply use Flying Thunder God and either seal gates or kill him.
And in the tai issue it's states: One of Minato's trademark attributes was his immense speed and seemingly instantaneous reflexes.
So Minato wins about 0.001 milliseconds after the announcer states go(jk).

In a battle of feats, which most BG fights are...

I'll need to see enough speed as to where Minato can clear the distance in a "split-second".

Second is Guy can pop gates at discresion, he doesn't need to go through the rest being he can auto-matically go 7th. I don't even think it takes too much time to auto-pop.

Next is I'll need to see this Flying Thunder God manga feat, as well as Minato's ability to seal chakra gates (which iirc guy can just pop another gate he hasn't gone through and negate the blockage).

Next is the trademark needs to count into manga feats. His speed is great and all and his reaction speeds seem pretty good but I'd like proof on these from you that he can react to a hypersonic- man who can move his arms and legs at speeds past mach 25+.

[tyrell4life194]

Who ever says Gai is going to win is not too smart.
Minato can choose to kill Gai in a split second if he wants if Gai some how gets the 7th gate(which will not happen)then Minato can just simply use Flying Thunder God and either seal gates or kill him.
And in the tai issue it's states: One of Minato's trademark attributes was his immense speed and seemingly instantaneous reflexes.
So Minato wins about 0.001 milliseconds after the announcer states go(jk).
Give me a Manga scan of Minato clearing a distance in a split second. Don't have any? Of course not. And you know why? Because Minato has shown no speed feats of ever crossing an area with such speed. By hype, he's at most, as fast as the Raikage, as stated so by one of A's bodyguards.

Also, give me a Manga scan that Minato can seal the Gates.

In order for his FTG Technique to work, he needs to place special seals on special kunais. He then marks the location with those kunai. It takes prep time for Minato to throw the kunai at a distance. This enables Gai to avoid the kunai.

Gai can enter the 7 Gates almost automatically, as shown when he faced Kisame the 3rd time. Minato isn't winning this.

[Midnight789]

thank u all for using ur heads..

Gai wins this without a doubt! going Gates is just overkill.

[geogreymon123]

Hmmmm.
If guy is fast enough to go to 7 gates he will either be almost same speed at Minato or Faster. Some filler said That in 5th mode they are faster then sound, but thats just a filler. But if fast enough guy can match Minato's speed. Morning peacock or Afteroon tiger can do massive damage if hit on minato. Minato is fast so he will likely dodge it.
Minato can use teleport Kunai and Rasengan him.
I vote guy on this. Plus with Guy's speed he can use close combat more.

[ko lee]

Minato is not dodging Morning Peacock

[Midnight789]

Hmmmm.
If guy is fast enough to go to 7 gates he will either be almost same speed at Minato or Faster. Some filler said That in 5th mode they are faster then sound, but thats just a filler. But if fast enough guy can match Minato's speed. Morning peacock or Afteroon tiger can do massive damage if hit on minato. Minato is fast so he will likely dodge it.
Minato can use teleport Kunai and Rasengan him.
I vote guy on this. Plus with Guy's speed he can use close combat more.

Minato is not close to the speed of the gates. he has not even shown that must speed feat anyways, you are just going by hype. there is no way Minato is going to dodge the Morning peacock, which is a supersonic move.

The reason why people think Minato is super fast is his lightning God technique which is ninjusts. he is pretty much Kakashi's speed.

[Marik Swift]

You guys fail to realize that even though Gai can go gates instantaneously Minato can at the same time throw a kunai on the ground in front of him and even if he doesn't have something to seal his gates he can use a rasengan charged of all his chakra and that should be more than enough.
And if anything Minato can still run using his FTG until Gai runs out of gates and if you still think that wouldn't work he can always use his space time barrier to send Gai to anywhere he wants and then kill him later.:p

[Frost ninja]

You guys fail to realize that even though Gai can go gates instantaneously Minato can at the same time throw a kunai on the ground in front of him and even if he doesn't have something to seal his gates he can use a rasengan charged of all his chakra and that should be more than enough.
And if anything Minato can still run using his FTG until Gai runs out of gates and if you still think that wouldn't work he can always use his space time barrier to send Gai to anywhere he wants and then kill him later.:p


He throws a kunai... Great. After he ports guy catches him with blitz speed.
As far as a full charged rasengan goes, you'll need to charge that. With guy 7 gates in BL you don't have prep time to waste.

FTG requires him to throw iirc. Eventually guy would catch on and just catch the kunai he's about to port to.

Space/time barrier, iirc, is a hype feat unless you'd like to supply a chapter and page

[Marik Swift]

He throws a kunai... Great. After he ports guy catches him with blitz speed.
As far as a full charged rasengan goes, you'll need to charge that. With guy 7 gates in BL you don't have prep time to waste.

FTG requires him to throw iirc. Eventually guy would catch on and just catch the kunai he's about to port to.

Space/time barrier, iirc, is a hype feat unless you'd like to supply a chapter and page

Actually he wouldn't even require a fully charged rasengan cause Gates hasn't been shown to give any stamina boost and FTG is instantaneous meaning he can move with the kunai on the contrary so FTG>Gates my friend.

Lastly for the space time barrier it was shown that Minato used it on the nine-tails thank ye.

[Frost ninja]

Actually he wouldn't even require a fully charged rasengan cause Gates hasn't been shown to give any stamina boost and FTG is instantaneous meaning he can move with the kunai on the contrary so FTG>Gates my friend.

Lastly for the space time barrier it was shown that Minato used it on the nine-tails thank ye.

So your saying Minato will catch 7 gates guy with a rasengan...

also FTG, if its via kunai, just makes Minato vulnerable because the kunai itself can't move faster than guy. Thus guy can pretty much camp the kunai until minato pops out and then throw an afternoon tiger.

Or incinerate the kunai with a morning peacock spark.

Once again, chapter and page for the barrier please.

[Kuromaki]

502 page 7

How is that hype? Much less a hype feat, a name which contradicts itself.

[Frost ninja]

I see... My question is how effective is this?
It caught a menacing ball, which is great, but Guy can change direction and avoid it, can't he? maybe? I honestly don't know lol. Good to see evidence though

[tyrell4life194]

Kuro, Minato still loses.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Gai wins , just because Minato needs Prep. time a litle bit more than what Gai needs to reach the 7th gate.

Or else Minato would use the ST-B and teleport Gai into another dimension as he did with the Kyuubi's Menacing Ball.

Anyway, Minato still loses.

[Kuromaki]

Kuro, Minato still loses.
I never said he wouldn't, unless he has hype speed.

[THE X UCHIHA]

It's a matter of Prep time, Kuro. there is no way Taijutsu would take Prep. time more than Ninjutsu

[ItachixKisame]

So your saying Minato will catch 7 gates guy with a rasengan...

also FTG, if its via kunai, just makes Minato vulnerable because the kunai itself can't move faster than guy. Thus guy can pretty much camp the kunai until minato pops out and then throw an afternoon tiger.

Or incinerate the kunai with a morning peacock spark.

Once again, chapter and page for the barrier please.

It isn't necessarily via Minato's kunai. Minato just placed those seals on his kunai. He can place the seal wherever he wants to by touching the object.

[Yori]

Good luck on Minato getting a chance to touch Guy. It doesn't take long for him to pop open the 7th or 6th gate. Soon as Minato throws his kunai at guy, Morning peacock punches will be waiting for Minato. Afternoon Tiger is over kill

[ItachixKisame]

Base Gai can rape this. 7 Gates is overkill.

Base Guy can rape this? I think not. So basically you mean that Minato is worse than the clone of Kisame when Guy's team battled it.

[Yori]

If your referring to guy had to go into 6th gate to defeat a clone stop your claim. The only reason he went into 6 because his students were trapped. One on One with a Kisame clone and 6th gate shouldn't be needed.

[ItachixKisame]

To me it seemed that they were equally matched.

[ko lee]

Guy is superior to Kisame he proved it not once but twice

[Uchiha Raimaru]

As much as I feel that Minato could do more against Gai, he hasn't shown any feats that could beat, or allow him to get away from, Morning Peacock or Afternoon Tiger. With that in mind, I give it to Gai, who can auto-pop a 6th or 7th gate. Minato would have the time to throw some kunai and get away from Gai for a while, but that would only last so long.

[tyrell4life194]

To me it seemed that they were equally matched.
Not exactly. By hype, Minato is as fast as the Raikage. One of Raikage's bodyguards stated so. Also, Minato can almost instantaneously teleport to another location, with the use of special seals, which are then placed on special kunais. By feats? Minato is nowhere near as fast as Gai. They're not exactly evenly match.

[ItachixKisame]

Not exactly. By hype, Minato is as fast as the Raikage. One of Raikage's bodyguards stated so. Also, Minato can almost instantaneously teleport to another location, with the use of special seals, which are then placed on special kunais. By feats? Minato is nowhere near as fast as Gai. They're not exactly evenly match.

I meant Guy and Kisame's clone.

[ko lee]

Guy is superior to Kisame

[tyrell4life194]

I meant Guy and Kisame's clone.
Well, this is kinda difficult.

When Team Guy faced Kisame, it was only a clone. Neji first stated that Kisame's chakra reserves has as much chakra as Naruto's chakra reserves. Not only that, but the Kisame clone only had 30% percent of its chaka. Also, someone stated in the Manga that Kisame is a tailed beast without a tail. He was able to overpower Team Guy with no apparant injuries. It took Gai 6 Gates for him to defeat the clone. With 100% chakra, I believe Kisame would've been on equal grounds with quite a few of Gai's Gates. I don't believe he's on equal ground with the 7th Gate though.

[Frost ninja]

Well, this is kinda difficult.

When Team Guy faced Kisame, it was only a clone. Neji first stated that Kisame's chakra reserves has as much chakra as Naruto's chakra reserves. Not only that, but the Kisame clone only had 30% percent of its chaka. Also, someone stated in the Manga that Kisame is a tailed beast without a tail. He was able to overpower Team Guy with no apparant injuries. It took Gai 6 Gates for him to defeat the clone. With 100% chakra, I believe Kisame would've been on equal grounds with quite a few of Gai's Gates. I don't believe he's on equal ground with the 7th Gate though.

It didn't take 6 gates, he just used 6 gates to finish it off because tenten was drowning. He was doing fine without it iirc

[tyrell4life194]

It didn't take 6 gates, he just used 6 gates to finish it off because tenten was drowning. He was doing fine without it iirc
Well, he was doing fine without it. He kept on par with Kisame the entire time, until Kisame used his 5 Shark Freeding Frenzy Technique to injure Gai. Remember, this is Kisame whom has 30% chakra.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Not exactly. By hype, Minato is as fast as the Raikage. One of Raikage's bodyguards stated so. Also, Minato can almost instantaneously teleport to another location, with the use of special seals, which are then placed on special kunais. By feats? Minato is nowhere near as fast as Gai. They're not exactly evenly match.

I think you meant with "special seals, which are then placed on special kunais"

The space time-barrier.

it requires 2 sealed Kunais by which Minato can teleport the Kyuubi's Menacing Ball.

If Minato has enough Prep. time / I think Guy's defeating wouldn't be as impossible.

[Frost ninja]

Well, he was doing fine without it. He kept on par with Kisame the entire time, until Kisame used his 5 Shark Freeding Frenzy Technique to injure Gai. Remember, this is Kisame whom has 30% chakra.

Guy looked like he was still fine. Just chillin on the ground.
Point being is he didn't NEED the gates to win.

[tyrell4life194]

It's true that he didn't need the Gates to win, but because Kisame created a mini lake, Gai knew he was at a disadvantage. Most if not all of Kisame's Jutsus are Water Based Techniques, and creating a mini lake gave him a huge advantage in a fight against Gai.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Gai has no way of surviving drowning no matter how fast he is.

[ko lee]

Gai has no way of surviving drowning no matter how fast he is.
Technically thats not true 7th gate projects an aura around Gai that pushes away water so in fact he does have a way to breathe

[tyrell4life194]

Give me proof from the Manga that shows Gai having a way to breathe underwater.

[ko lee]

Chapter 506 pg 13 states that Guys aura forces back the water.

[tyrell4life194]

Thank you. But I believe Guys has to use his Gates, in order to use his aura to force back the water.

[ko lee]

True I was just stating he did have a way to survive underwater.

[Anbu Leader]

Even dough Gai has The Seven Gates, Minato has far greater speed and is a justu master. He would destroy Gai with his jutsu's.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Even dough Gai has The Seven Gates, Minato has far greater speed and is a justu master. He would destroy Gai with his jutsu's.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/faceplam.png

feats? References? Calcs?

[tyrell4life194]

Minato is NOWHERE near as fast as Gai. Stating so is blatant Mental Retardation, and is a disgrace to intelligent life everywhere.

[Midnight789]

Minato is NOWHERE near as fast as Gai. Stating so is blatant Mental Retardation, and is a disgrace to intelligent life everywhere.


I finally agree with YOu!!!!! lol