View Full Version : Gaara VS Kisame
geogreymon123
11-25-2010, 09:48 PM
Location: A beach. Yes a beach where there is Water and Sand `:P
S.O.M: Bloodlust
Setting:Sunny Day
Time: About Noon
Distance: Kisame is in the Water and Gaara is on the Beach. About 13 feet from eachother.
Restrictions:NONE.
Full knowledge.
Who wins?
Nyruss
11-25-2010, 10:32 PM
Kisame takes this easily. Kisamehada + water dome. He's fast enough to ignore Gaara's sand as it is, with water further slowing it down, there's no way Gaara can do anything to Kisame.
geogreymon123
11-25-2010, 10:46 PM
My turn to support >;D
Since Gaara is yet on a beach with pounds and pounds of sand.
There is even sand under the water Kisame is in.
knowing Garra he would try to get Kisame stuck to the underwater
sand below him.
Then Gaara would probably cover him in sand and Use Sand Burial.
If Kisame was able to dodge this there is sand in every moleclue of water.
I mean really the sea is filled with sand/salt
So Kisame is basicly Caught no matter where he moves.
Whether he goes on land or still in the water he is caught.
Even if he fuses and makes waterdome there is still sand in it.
Gaara could easily trap kisame in a sand burial killing him.
Or Gaara can Just throw sand at his eyes blinding him and killing him with sand burial :D
Kuromaki
11-26-2010, 11:06 AM
To my knowledge, wouldn't the water just make the sand pack together, and slow it down? Kisame is a beast in the water, so dodging isn't a problem, when the sand's been slowed down.
If he fuses with Samehada, he can also absorb the chakra from the sand, making it useless and making him stronger.
ko lee
11-26-2010, 03:02 PM
If Gaara could manage to seperate Kisame from the water he may win this one with a sand burial but if Kisame stays near water Gaaras chances of winning are next to none.
Uchiha Raimaru
11-26-2010, 03:04 PM
As much as I would want Gaara to win, Kisame's a friggin tank. How many big attacks of Gai did he tank? Gaara, as much as I hate it, has little chance.
TheBlackChidori
11-26-2010, 03:12 PM
What does Kisame have to get through gaara's ultimate defense? He's just going to get the sand wet and compress it, making it even more deadly.
Earth > Water, remember the elemental tree? =)
Samehada is not going to absorb the sand, I don't know where the hell people are getting this idea. If you ask me, Kisame shouldnt even be top tier. Only his sword should.
Gaara flies up out of Kisame's reach with his sand, keeping his defense on. Giant Sand burial with all the beach sand and the millions of tons laying under the ocean, Let's see Samehada absorb a giant sand coffin. =/
geogreymon123
11-26-2010, 07:30 PM
Gaara isnt confrimed to have Earthstyle.
But since its on the more likley side yes Gaara has advantage.
TheBlackChidori
11-26-2010, 07:44 PM
Gaara isnt confrimed to have Earthstyle.
But since its on the more likley side yes Gaara has advantage.
Sand is confirmed to be Earth and Wind.
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 07:46 PM
Kisame drains the chakra out of Gaara's ultimate defense, rendering it useless and allowing him to casually take Gaara's head off.
Also, giant shark missile that gets stronger the more chakra is pumped into the sand.
TheBlackChidori
11-26-2010, 07:52 PM
Kisame drains the chakra out of Gaara's ultimate defense, rendering it useless and allowing him to casually take Gaara's head off.
Also, giant shark missile that gets stronger the more chakra is pumped into the sand.
Oh that short range Jutsu that takes seven handseals? Right, I'm sure that'll be faster than a barrage of Sand fast enough to block Amaterasu.
What about Sand Bullets? Is Kisame going to just block those with his sword?
Gaara's sand can block C3.
What you guys are trying to say is that Samehada is going to drain Gaara's mountain of sand of all chakra in a matter of seconds.
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Oh that short range Jutsu that takes seven handseals? Right, I'm sure that'll be faster than a barrage of Sand fast enough to block Amaterasu.
Great Shark Missile Technique. While its range is unspecified, it is not by any means close range and it doesn't take seven seals, all it takes is a clap, then the dragon seal and then a technique specific seal. And Kisame can use it at the same speed that 7 Gates Gai can punch.
Which is really really really really really really really really really really really really fast.
What about Sand Bullets? Is Kisame going to just block those with his sword?
Maybe, maybe not(my money's on indisputably, as it happens), but then, he doesn't have to considering Gaara's already dead.
Gaara's sand can block C3.
Thing about Gaara's sand is, it needs chakra. And Kisame absorbs chakra. Kisame absorbs Gaara's chakra. Gaara gets no sand. Gaara dies.
What you guys are trying to say is that Samehada is going to drain Gaara's mountain of sand of all chakra in a matter of seconds.
Kisame is faster than Gaara could ever be. Gaara won't have the time to gather nearly as much sand as he used against Deidara.
Uchiha Raimaru
11-26-2010, 08:00 PM
Oh that short range Jutsu that takes seven handseals? Right, I'm sure that'll be faster than a barrage of Sand fast enough to block Amaterasu.
What about Sand Bullets? Is Kisame going to just block those with his sword?
Gaara's sand can block C3.
What you guys are trying to say is that Samehada is going to drain Gaara's mountain of sand of all chakra in a matter of seconds.
You're making good points. Samehada isn't going to be draining Gaara's sand of chakra anytime soon, and while both have nearly unlimited resources at their disposal, Gaara is probably going to make better use of that.
So I change my position. Keep it up, TheBlackChidori. I enjoy reading your posts.
Slack 40
11-26-2010, 08:05 PM
What does Kisame have to get through gaara's ultimate defense? He's just going to get the sand wet and compress it, making it even more deadly.
Earth > Water, remember the elemental tree? =)
Samehada is not going to absorb the sand, I don't know where the hell people are getting this idea. If you ask me, Kisame shouldnt even be top tier. Only his sword should.
Gaara flies up out of Kisame's reach with his sand, keeping his defense on. Giant Sand burial with all the beach sand and the millions of tons laying under the ocean, Let's see Samehada absorb a giant sand coffin. =/
Kisame is a crazy tanker, his speed is amazing, and he has insanse chakra AND thats without the sword. With the sword he's even better.
He absorbs the chakra in the sand i guess (dont know if he can do that but who knows :\)
but eather way Kisame uses the water to blitz and kill gaara.
We have no proof that gaara can control mud, which is what the sand is when mixed with water. Also yes Earth>water but Gaara's chakra affinity is wind. Also the hand seal for the sand burial is ram, and most earth techniques end with the snake hand seal
ko lee
11-26-2010, 08:07 PM
Thing about Gaara's sand is, it needs chakra. And Kisame absorbs chakra. Kisame absorbs Gaara's chakra. Gaara gets no sand. Gaara dies.
Kisame is faster than Gaara could ever be. Gaara won't have the time to gather nearly as much sand as he used against Deidara.
Give me proof that Ksame could drain Gaara's sand instantly
Kisame may be faster then Gaara but he won't be faster then his sand
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Give me proof that Ksame could drain Gaara's sand instantly
Give me proof that Gaara can gather enough sand to prevent Kisame from draining all of it instantly. Oh wait, you can't. Because Kisame is faster than Gaara and speedblitzes.
Kisame may be faster then Gaara but he won't be faster then his sand
Support this claim. Not like it matters because Gaara dies the second the fight begins on account of Kisame's massive speed superiority.
Uchiha Raimaru
11-26-2010, 08:14 PM
Have we seen Kisame drain anything but raw chakra? Gaara's chakra is compacted in the sand, I don't think Kisame's getting to it easily.
Also, I don't think Kisame's gonna be speedblitzing anybody that could react to Amaterasu like that.
geogreymon123
11-26-2010, 08:18 PM
Support this claim. Not like it matters because Gaara dies the second the fight begins on account of Kisame's massive speed superiority.
No way.
Gaara's Ultimate defense acks ON ITS OWN. Gaara can just stand there while the sand is just protecting him.
Gaara could summon a Sand giant to smash Kisame.
Plus sand is in the ocean which gives Gaara adavanatge no matter where he is.
Since Kisame is WET sand will stick to him guys I hope u noticed that now.
The sand will stick to him causing Kisame to slow down.
Gaara wins.
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Have we seen Kisame drain anything but raw chakra?
He stopped Bee's swords, and they have lightning chakra in them. In any event, if he could be defeated by a simple elemental jutsu he wouldn't be a threat to anyone.
Gaara's chakra is compacted in the sand, I don't think Kisame's getting to it easily.
Support this claim.
Also, I don't think Kisame's gonna be speedblitzing anybody that could react to Amaterasu like that.
He didn't react to it, the sand was already moving to attack Sasuke when the Sauce used Amaterasu. In any event, prove that Amaterasu is faster than 7 Gates Gai.
No way.
Since you refuse to support your claims you autolose. Bugger off, fanboy.
ko lee
11-26-2010, 08:33 PM
He stopped Bee's swords, and they have lightning chakra in them. In any event, if he could be defeated by a simple elemental jutsu he wouldn't be a threat to anyone.
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-So your referring to an attack that had pulsing lightning chakra umm thats raw chakra.
Oh and by the way Deidar said himself that Gaara had compacted chakra in his sand go watch the anime.
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:36 PM
So your referring to an attack that had pulsing lightning chakra umm thats raw chakra.
Elemental chakra and plain old chakra are not the same thing. Bee used elemental chakra. As in, not regular chakra. As in, there's nothing stopping Kisame from absorbing the chakra in Gaara's sand. As in there's no possible way for Gaara to win this fight.
Oh and by the way Deidar said himself that Gaara had compacted chakra in his sand go watch the anime.
Nice try, but no. Anime is not canon.
geogreymon123
11-26-2010, 08:36 PM
Gaara can just summon a giant sand CLone and smash kisame. The Sea is just filled with sand. Easy wind kinda.
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:37 PM
Gaara can just summon a giant sand CLone and smash kisame. The Sea is just filled with sand. Easy wind kinda.
He's gonna have a hard time doing that when he's dead.
geogreymon123
11-26-2010, 08:39 PM
LIEZ!
Gaara's Ultimate defense is said to ACT ON ITS OWN.
So while that is happening garra can make a few clones for backup and then summon a giant 1
Nyruss
11-26-2010, 08:40 PM
Gaara's Ultimate defense is said to ACT ON ITS OWN.
Only with the Shukaku still implanted in Gaara. Without it, Gaara can only rely on his own ability to react. And even if Gaara did still have the Shukaku, he would still die on account of the fact that Kisame is much much faster than he is and thus, speedblitzes.
I can see that there is never going to be an end to this, so it's nothing more than an excuse for you to post farm.
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