About Sasuke...*maybe some spoilers*

[animelover]

Many people keep saying how Sasuke is such a bad guy, but i want to discuss how even though his decisions my seem bad, he might really have some good intentions behind them.

~Even going to Orochimaru for power, he wanted to avange his family that was killed

~Like think about how he was training with Orochimaru..
when he had to kill all those men as tranining, he didn't kill them all because he thought that was a waste of life.

~Also he didn't like how Orochimaru kept killing just to learn new jutsu the way he did

~He compared Orochimaru's "research" to that of how Itachi killed the Uchiha clan, which of course Sasuke hates
(even though he all by now know why Itachi did that)

~and....
How Sasuke found out why Itachi killed their clan, he wanted to distroy the leaf...well, if you had spent your life thinking about how your brother killed all your family, then to find out he didn't really want to kill them and that people in your village wanted to kill you all themselves (the elders) you'd be feeling messed up and super mad too...

I'm not saying what he decided is the "right" way to handle things, but i can understand why he would choose that...

Please discuss what you think about this...:mrgreen:

[animelover]

oh what about when sasuke was crying his eyes or his memorys of itachi
:???: i don't understand what you mean..

[zerosameri]

:???: i don't understand what you mean..
oh my bad i typ it in the wrong place. sorry.

[Shika]

But see Sasuke still DID do all those things.. It doesnt matter if he liked it or not. I could kill someone and say ''oh i didnt mean it badly''. Im still goin to jail and that person isnt coming back

[Windking]

But see Sasuke still DID do all those things.. It doesnt matter if he liked it or not. I could kill someone and say ''oh i didnt mean it badly''. Im still goin to jail and that person isnt coming back

agree..

[animelover]

So you can forgive Itachi but not Sasuke? Most people think Itachi isn't so bad so why not Sasuke? His big brother killed his WHOLE family except Sasuke
They're just like eachother

[Shika]

So you can forgive Itachi but not Sasuke? Most people think Itachi isn't so bad so why not Sasuke? His big brother killed his WHOLE family except Sasuke
They're just like eachother

This is the difference. Itachi did it with GOOD intentions. He wanted to help his little brother and was forced to.

Sasuke killed with the intention to become stronger.

Theres the one difference

[animelover]

This is the difference. Itachi did it with GOOD intentions. He wanted to help his little brother and was forced to.

Sasuke killed with the intention to become stronger.

Theres the one difference
Sasuke wanted to get stronger to stop Itachi who he thought was the real bad guy

[NaruSakufluff4ever]

ugh confusing...

[Shika]

Sasuke wanted to get stronger to stop Itachi who he thought was the real bad guy


He could have gotton stronger in the leaf. He didnt have to kill all those ppl. Kakashi was training him all the time to get better.

[Ryaque]

You know what? Maybe some people aren't thinking like Sasuke did. Look imagine you're about 10 and you have an older brother that you loved very much. Now imagin that one day you come inside and you see everyone dead and you're older brother is standing there with blood on his sword. You would be pretty mad wouldn't you? Plus have any of you ever lost someone you loved? If you didn't you have no idea what it feels like and when that happens no one can think straight. So maybe Sasuke just never recovered and wasn't thinking straight when he left the leaf. And he's not heartless. Like Animelover said, when he had to fight all those people he didn't kill them all and he hated Orochimaru experimenting on people too. My point is that revenge is a monster, and all it does is drive someone insane to kill the person that hurt them, but after that they usually go insane themselves. So after Sasuke killed Itachi and found out that it was the leaf that ordered him to kill his family what do you think he would do? He wants to kill the person that hurt him so he forgot about Itachi and moved to the leaf. You see my point? It's all revenge controling him.

[hajrajaved]

You know what? Maybe some people aren't thinking like Sasuke did. Look imagine you're about 10 and you have an older brother that you loved very much. Now imagin that one day you come inside and you see everyone dead and you're older brother is standing there with blood on his sword. You would be pretty mad wouldn't you? Plus have any of you ever lost someone you loved? If you didn't you have no idea what it feels like and when that happens no one can think straight. So maybe Sasuke just never recovered and wasn't thinking straight when he left the leaf. And he's not heartless. Like Animelover said, when he had to fight all those people he didn't kill them all and he hated Orochimaru experimenting on people too. My point is that revenge is a monster, and all it does is drive someone insane to kill the person that hurt them, but after that they usually go insane themselves. So after Sasuke killed Itachi and found out that it was the leaf that ordered him to kill his family what do you think he would do? He wants to kill the person that hurt him so he forgot about Itachi and moved to the leaf. You see my point? It's all revenge controling him.
u r absolutely right!

[animelover]

You know what? Maybe some people aren't thinking like Sasuke did. Look imagine you're about 10 and you have an older brother that you loved very much. Now imagin that one day you come inside and you see everyone dead and you're older brother is standing there with blood on his sword. You would be pretty mad wouldn't you? Plus have any of you ever lost someone you loved? If you didn't you have no idea what it feels like and when that happens no one can think straight. So maybe Sasuke just never recovered and wasn't thinking straight when he left the leaf. And he's not heartless. Like Animelover said, when he had to fight all those people he didn't kill them all and he hated Orochimaru experimenting on people too. My point is that revenge is a monster, and all it does is drive someone insane to kill the person that hurt them, but after that they usually go insane themselves. So after Sasuke killed Itachi and found out that it was the leaf that ordered him to kill his family what do you think he would do? He wants to kill the person that hurt him so he forgot about Itachi and moved to the leaf. You see my point? It's all revenge controling him.
Excatly my point, thank you Ryaque ;)

[Shika]

You know what? Maybe some people aren't thinking like Sasuke did. Look imagine you're about 10 and you have an older brother that you loved very much. Now imagin that one day you come inside and you see everyone dead and you're older brother is standing there with blood on his sword. You would be pretty mad wouldn't you? Plus have any of you ever lost someone you loved? If you didn't you have no idea what it feels like and when that happens no one can think straight. So maybe Sasuke just never recovered and wasn't thinking straight when he left the leaf. And he's not heartless. Like Animelover said, when he had to fight all those people he didn't kill them all and he hated Orochimaru experimenting on people too. My point is that revenge is a monster, and all it does is drive someone insane to kill the person that hurt them, but after that they usually go insane themselves. So after Sasuke killed Itachi and found out that it was the leaf that ordered him to kill his family what do you think he would do? He wants to kill the person that hurt him so he forgot about Itachi and moved to the leaf. You see my point? It's all revenge controling him.

And what im saying is he could have gotton better in the leaf. Instead he killed those people.. He didnt need to do that. That is all im saying.. And when he went to Orochimaru he didnt know it was the leaf that gave the order. He is evil.. And i cant forgive him. Wouldnt the ppl he killed have a family too?

And

Sasuke didnt kill Itachi

[Ryaque]

Excatly my point, thank you Ryaque ;)
Anytime.:mrgreen:

[animelover]

And what im saying is he could have gotton better in the leaf. Instead he killed those people.. He didnt need to do that. That is all im saying.. And when he went to Orochimaru he didnt know it was the leaf that gave the order. He is evil.. And i cant forgive him. Wouldnt the ppl he killed have a family too?

And

Sasuke didnt kill Itachi
Itachi still killed them all too, he could have just told his family couldn't he?
He made Sasuke believe and be tormemnted all those years

Sasuke may have thought the hidden leaf wouldn't have made him strong like the power Orochimaru held
i think it's slightly true
Even naruto had the Sannins help (Jirarya)
and They didn't train in hidden leaf either

[Itachi Uchia]

Itachi still killed them all too, he could have just told his family couldn't he?
He made Sasuke believe and be tormemnted all those years

Sasuke may have thought the hidden leaf wouldn't have made him strong like the power Orochimaru held
i think it's slightly true
Even naruto had the Sannins help (Jirarya)
and They didn't train in hidden leaf either
Yea thats a good point

[Shika]

Itachi still killed them all too, he could have just told his family couldn't he?
He made Sasuke believe and be tormemnted all those years

Sasuke may have thought the hidden leaf wouldn't have made him strong like the power Orochimaru held
i think it's slightly true
Even naruto had the Sannins help (Jirarya)
and They didn't train in hidden leaf either

But Naruto and Jeriaya didnt kill anyone. And Jeriya is a leaf ninja

[Ryaque]

But Naruto and Jeriaya didnt kill anyone. And Jeriya is a leaf ninja
But you ever notice that when Jariaya trains Naruto it's almost always outside of the village?

[Shika]

But you ever notice that when Jariaya trains Naruto it's almost always outside of the village?

And did you notice.. They dont kill anyone?

[Ryaque]

And did you notice.. They dont kill anyone?
That's not true. Naruto has killed some people. Like Haku, (or at least near death) Hishidate, and any enemy that gets him to mad or Doto even. Naruto has killed people, and I bet Jariaya did too.

[Ninja Pink]

That's not true. Naruto has killed some people. Like Haku, (or at least near death) Hishidate, and any enemy that gets him to mad or Doto even. Naruto has killed people, and I bet Jariaya did too.


Not to cut in the conversation,but ahhh....
Naruto only kills people when he really has to,he'd never kill someone to "get stronger" or when he gets mad(in nine-tailed fox mode,maybe...)

So I still think killing people,even if they did do something,like Sasuke has done,seems wrong...

[Shika]

Thank you.. I was gonna say tht

[Ryaque]

Not to cut in the conversation,but ahhh....
Naruto only kills people when he really has to,he'd never kill someone to "get stronger" or when he gets mad(in nine-tailed fox mode,maybe...)

So I still think killing people,even if they did do something,like Sasuke has done,seems wrong...
Yeas he only does if he had to, but think like I said earlier, revenge can make you think wrong. So Sasuke is all messed up inside because of what Itachi did; even if he was ordered to do so he still did kill his family. If someone killed you're family wouldn't you want to get even? You see my point.

[Hebi]

Well Said......

[*HinataGurl*]

I think sasuke is just confused. he just found out that everything he thought his brother was about wasnt true and sasuke is always one for revenge. if it were me i dont know what i would do. though i wouldnt go kil the elders i would just start yelling at them...... my heart isnt ice cold ( neither is sasukes, or at least it shouldnt be) its getting rather confusing for me.

[animelover]

Sasuke didn't even kill them all, like how when i said he was traning
Orochimaru said he needed to be more heartless
Sasuke was against that and said
"i'll be heartless weither i want to be or not" when he faces Itachi

[Ninja Pink]

Yeas he only does if he had to, but think like I said earlier, revenge can make you think wrong. So Sasuke is all messed up inside because of what Itachi did; even if he was ordered to do so he still did kill his family. If someone killed you're family wouldn't you want to get even? You see my point.

Yeah,I see your point:)

Revenge seems like a bad chocie.Of course you would wan't to get even,but it won't change a thing,your family will still be dead,you'd become a murderer,and it won't make you feel better.

But it is Sasuke,in any case,I agree with you;)

[Slimdoe]

I have lost all respect for him. I don't understand his behaviour anymore.
He has no excuse to do all the things he is planning to, no matter how much he has suffered, he still has the choice to make things right or wrong.

[animelover]

He doesn't like killing if you notice carefully

[Shika]

He still does it

[animelover]

He still does it
Name all the ppl/random ppl he has killed

[Shika]

Name all the ppl/random ppl he has killed

The only thing im tlking about is the ones he killed to get stronger.

He also was going to kill Naruto to get the mangeko, that would make him STRONGER

[madara']

Many people keep saying how Sasuke is such a bad guy, but i want to discuss how even though his decisions my seem bad, he might really have some good intentions behind them.

~Even going to Orochimaru for power, he wanted to avange his family that was killed

~Like think about how he was training with Orochimaru..
when he had to kill all those men as tranining, he didn't kill them all because he thought that was a waste of life.

~Also he didn't like how Orochimaru kept killing just to learn new jutsu the way he did

~He compared Orochimaru's "research" to that of how Itachi killed the Uchiha clan, which of course Sasuke hates
(even though he all by now know why Itachi did that)

~and....
How Sasuke found out why Itachi killed their clan, he wanted to distroy the leaf...well, if you had spent your life thinking about how your brother killed all your family, then to find out he didn't really want to kill them and that people in your village wanted to kill you all themselves (the elders) you'd be feeling messed up and super mad too...

I'm not saying what he decided is the "right" way to handle things, but i can understand why he would choose that...

Please discuss what you think about this...:mrgreen:That's true.

[animelover]

The only thing im tlking about is the ones he killed to get stronger.

He also was going to kill Naruto to get the mangeko, that would make him STRONGER
No, you can't name any

And he at the end didn't kill Naruto in the final battle in part one, and if you heard what he said while he walked away, he said to himself, He will not achive power that way, the way His Brother told him too, Sasuke said he will find another way to get stronger

[Shika]

No, you can't name any

And he at the end didn't kill Naruto in the final battle in part one, and if you heard what he said while he walked away, he said to himself, He will not achive power that way, the way His Brother told him too, Sasuke said he will find another way to get stronger


Im done here.. I have NO respect for Sasuke and until i see something heroic.. I will NOT regain respect for him

[Itachi-Sama]

I don't believe that Sasuke is evil. He is just as "evil" as anyone else is to him. Besides, he didn't kill those people that he was against while with Orochimaru, if you read what Orochimaru says carefully.

[animelover]

In the end of the series i think we'll all see

[ECW Original]

I had respect for sasuke until he decided to attack the leaf.I wasn't really that mad that he left the leaf for orochimaru although I did start to slightly dislike him.Especially after the thing with Sakura and after that piledriver he gave Naruto at the valley of the end.The reason he hasn't killed anyone yet is because he wanted Itachi to be his first and he thought those other people were a waste of time.Now back to current events,I can understand Sasgay wanting the elders and Danzo,heck everyone hates them,but trying to destroy the entire village and they did nothing wrong to him.Not to mention the fact that he's now trying to kill all the Kages including Sandman.So now I hate him even more.

[Ninja Pink]

I had respect for sasuke until he decided to attack the leaf.I wasn't really that mad that he left the leaf for orochimaru although I did start to slightly dislike him.Especially after the thing with Sakura and after that piledriver he gave Naruto at the valley of the end.The reason he hasn't killed anyone yet is because he wanted Itachi to be his first and he thought those other people were a waste of time.Now back to current events,I can understand Sasgay wanting the elders and Danzo,heck everyone hates them,but trying to destroy the entire village and they did nothing wrong to him.Not to mention the fact that he's now trying to kill all the Kages including Sandman.So now I hate him even more.

I agree:)

[animelover]

True that, but he felt most likely that the whole village was the one who messed up his life

Like i said before, i'm not saying what he did is "right" but i can see why he does most things

[princezzhinata]

Hey guys, do you guys think Sasuke stills loves Sakura?

[takuya]

True that, but he felt most likely that the whole village was the one who messed up his life

Like i said before, i'm not saying what he did is "right" but i can see why he does most things
i havent read most of the manga but the part that i did read it had sasuke saying dont hurt anyone were just going after the elders so he isnt gonna destroy the whole village hes just going for danzo and the elders

[Amateratsu]

You know what? Maybe some people aren't thinking like Sasuke did. Look imagine you're about 10 and you have an older brother that you loved very much. Now imagin that one day you come inside and you see everyone dead and you're older brother is standing there with blood on his sword. You would be pretty mad wouldn't you? Plus have any of you ever lost someone you loved? If you didn't you have no idea what it feels like and when that happens no one can think straight. So maybe Sasuke just never recovered and wasn't thinking straight when he left the leaf. And he's not heartless. Like Animelover said, when he had to fight all those people he didn't kill them all and he hated Orochimaru experimenting on people too. My point is that revenge is a monster, and all it does is drive someone insane to kill the person that hurt them, but after that they usually go insane themselves. So after Sasuke killed Itachi and found out that it was the leaf that ordered him to kill his family what do you think he would do? He wants to kill the person that hurt him so he forgot about Itachi and moved to the leaf. You see my point? It's all revenge controling him.
Revenge is only controlling him because
The Uchiha Clan wanted to backstab the Leaf. It's all Uchiha Madara's fault.

[animelover]

i havent read most of the manga but the part that i did read it had sasuke saying dont hurt anyone were just going after the elders so he isnt gonna destroy the whole village hes just going for danzo and the elders

I think Sasuke is as good as Naruto and I will always stand behind this statement.

[Fan of Minato]

Well Sasuke, is blinded by revenge,
but he does have good intentions,
and I believe he will become a good guy at the end.

[Raven Uchiha]

Many people keep saying how Sasuke is such a bad guy, but i want to discuss how even though his decisions my seem bad, he might really have some good intentions behind them.

~Even going to Orochimaru for power, he wanted to avange his family that was killed

~Like think about how he was training with Orochimaru..
when he had to kill all those men as tranining, he didn't kill them all because he thought that was a waste of life.

~Also he didn't like how Orochimaru kept killing just to learn new jutsu the way he did

~He compared Orochimaru's "research" to that of how Itachi killed the Uchiha clan, which of course Sasuke hates
(even though he all by now know why Itachi did that)

~and....
How Sasuke found out why Itachi killed their clan, he wanted to distroy the leaf...well, if you had spent your life thinking about how your brother killed all your family, then to find out he didn't really want to kill them and that people in your village wanted to kill you all themselves (the elders) you'd be feeling messed up and super mad too...

I'm not saying what he decided is the "right" way to handle things, but i can understand why he would choose that...

Please discuss what you think about this...:mrgreen:
I agree with you, but i just think that Sasuke is just confused with all the information and truths he's learned about the Leaf village and Itachi.

[animelover]

Yes, my point, thank you for understanding

[rainbowrazor]

but remember sasuke never kills anyone he doesnt have to remeber he always tells his team not to kill them just because he killed itachi that makes him bad

[brooksey]

I still don't like Susuke. The way he treated Orochimaru. I'm surprised Oro put up with his bs. He was mean and Orochimaru was Personally training him. He was also a jerk and thinks he is all that.

[mangagirl]

This is the difference. Itachi did it with GOOD intentions. He wanted to help his little brother and was forced to.

Sasuke killed with the intention to become stronger.

Theres the one difference
ya...:cry::cry:

[Nemico]

Im not sure wat side Sasuke is on but hes goin Bad...

[Nejusake]

im a sasuke fan personally
but is he good at regular taijutsu(hand to hand)without tha sword???:ugeek:

[saucepan500]

awee...
I think Sasuke has gone mad... He turned down so many oppurtunities...
friendship and love...
recognition... i mean... he has so many abilities and he's so talented.
he doesn't deserve to be hated... that with the feelings he kept inside...
his loneliness... all to kill Itachi and then he finds out his brother truly loved him so much.
his life was ruined... so i think he should be forgiven.
but what made me mad was when sasuke is all cruel to team 7 and then when he's with team Hebi he's so calm >.<

[animelover]

Im not sure wat side Sasuke is on but hes goin Bad...

Not really, when he learned of what the elders ordered his older brother to do, he was heartbroken knowing that all this time when he thought Itachi was a bad guy, was really a good guy, he wanted revenge on the village, mostly the elders only and Danzo because of how they made the Uchiha Clan's lives so bad, he is one of the few Uchihas even still alive......

[Sasuke726]

Sasuke isnt as cold-hearted as people say he is

[animelover]

Sasuke isnt as cold-hearted as people say he is

My point! ;)

[Sasuke726]

My point! ;)


yea in fact he is very emotional sometimes

[animelover]

yea in fact he is very emotional sometimes

When he saw the old "Great Naruto Bridge" and thought back, he was some what emotional