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Shikamaru Nara
11-10-2010, 09:39 AM
Chances are that Feitan would end up getting blitzed, but I'm wondering if he were to survive that he would use his sun attack.

321zigzag3
11-10-2010, 09:52 AM
Feitan is a casual bullet timer and can perform casual after images. Granted after images depends on upon the opponent's perception of speed as well but it shows how really fast Feitan is.

The only way Kisame can win is if he pulls off a lake.

And also Kisame's drowning and drain you to death method sort of bypasses Feitan's Pain Packer.

Shikamaru Nara
11-10-2010, 09:55 AM
Feitan is a casual bullet timer and can perform casual after images. Granted after images depends on upon the opponent's perception of speed as well but it shows how really fast Feitan is.

The only way Kisame can win is if he pulls off a lake.

And also Kisame's drowning and drain you to death method sort of bypasses Feitan's Pain Packer.

Are you kidding? When did he show speed feats like that?

Best speed feats he has shown is when he ran behind Killua when him and Gon infiltrated the hideout.

Although I'm a bit behind in the manga.

321zigzag3
11-10-2010, 10:04 AM
Didn't Killua evade a sniper bullet? And even before that didn't he evade bullets? I know Kurapika did in the York Shin arc.

Anyway it is based on scaling, most of it.

He has shown after images against one of the Chimera Queen. Her name started with a Z.

Shikamaru Nara
11-10-2010, 01:27 PM
Didn't Killua evade a sniper bullet? And even before that didn't he evade bullets? I know Kurapika did in the York Shin arc.

Anyway it is based on scaling, most of it.

He has shown after images against one of the Chimera Queen. Her name started with a Z.

Yes, but what you're saying is solely based on powerscaling which I thought was unrealiable. :/


Oh, so you said it. o_O

321zigzag3
11-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Yes, but what you're saying is solely based on powerscaling which I thought was unrealiable. :/


Oh, so you said it. o_O

If the powerscaling is based on comparative scaling like based on feats with the characters have of each other. I mean thats the main way to do it though.

Thats how most people have been doing it. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-10-2010, 04:21 PM
If the powerscaling is based on comparative scaling like based on feats with the characters have of each other. I mean thats the main way to do it though.

Thats how most people have been doing it. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

I prefer not to powerscale.

It's still hype, regardless of other character's feats, because it's not actually an existing feat.

Therefore, Feitain is only about hypersonic+ in theory. Did some calcs really fast and this is what I got.

0.3 Seconds to travel 1000 miles would be
12000000.0426 mph
19312128.0000 kmh
5364480.0000 meters/sec
1055999980.1472 feet/minute
According to those calcs, Feitan would be FTL, but if you divide them a bunch of times you'd get high hypersonic speed.

By a couple of times I mean multiple. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-10-2010, 05:40 PM
Except if Killua had evaded bullets before and yet couldn't escape Feitan what does that tell you? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Also there is the whole after image thing. Also Feitan has a machine gun stored in his cane or something I believe. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

And also how the heck you get FTL? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png That is waaaaaaay massive inflation. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:00 PM
Except if Killua had evaded bullets before and yet couldn't escape Feitan what does that tell you? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Also there is the whole after image thing. Also Feitan has a machine gun stored in his cane or something I believe. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

And also how the heck you get FTL? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png That is waaaaaaay massive inflation. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Everything, but there are still no feats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Kisame could break that cane. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

I don't know. It was a quick calc. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Everything, but there are still no feats. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Kisame could break that cane. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

I don't know. It was a quick calc. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Or it simply means by simple logical deduction. That it simply means Feitan gives much trouble in the speed department. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


So what? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


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Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:14 PM
Or it simply means by simple logical deduction. That it simply means Feitan gives much trouble in the speed department. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


So what? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


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Kisame's reaction speed is quite fast. And how fast do you think Feitan is exactly? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:19 PM
Kisame's reaction speed is quite fast. And how fast do you think Feitan is exactly? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Granted Kisame has at least low top tier reactions. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

I say Feitan is much faster than Base Gai. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


If Killua is a bullet timer, I swear he is, isn't he? It doesn't help Kisame at all. But outside of that the only thing Feitan might rival with Kisame is strength. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Feitan is the 5th strongest of the Genei Ryodan. Kisame is physically stronger than Gai who punched through concrete with ease back in Part 1. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

But they are both not really quantifiable. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Equalize speed and I see Feitan on the losing end. I mean Kisame has much superior durability and sheer endurance to pain. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Feitan wins on account his manga is better.

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:21 PM
Feitan wins on account his manga is better.

Kisame is one of the few Narutoverse characters who actually went out on an non trolled death and is actually decent character. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:22 PM
Granted Kisame has at least low top tier reactions. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

I say Feitan is much faster than Base Gai. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


If Killua is a bullet timer, I swear he is, isn't he? It doesn't help Kisame at all. But outside of that the only thing Feitan might rival with Kisame is strength. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Feitan is the 5th strongest of the Genei Ryodan. Kisame is physically stronger than Gai who punched through concrete with ease back in Part 1. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

But they are both not really quantifiable. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Equalize speed and I see Feitan on the losing end. I mean Kisame has much superior durability and sheer endurance to pain. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Yes, and that means he's low top tier speed reaction. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

When did he dodge a bullet? I recall you saying Feitan did, not Killua. And wouldn't firing a gun be considered bullet timing? In theory, it is. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Your point? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Nothing is. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Kisame is worse than that of Feitan. I beg to differ. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:38 PM
Yes, and that means he's low top tier speed reaction. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

When did he dodge a bullet? I recall you saying Feitan did, not Killua. And wouldn't firing a gun be considered bullet timing? In theory, it is. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Your point? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Nothing is. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Kisame is worse than that of Feitan. I beg to differ. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png




Yes but that is relative to Narutoverse itself. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

No I have been stating that Killua evaded bullets. Didn't he? There was that time he evaded a sniper bullet. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Since when Feitan has shown superior durability and endurance to pain than Kisame? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:41 PM
Yes but that is relative to Narutoverse itself. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

No I have been stating that Killua evaded bullets. Didn't he? There was that time he evaded a sniper bullet. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Since when Feitan has shown superior durability and endurance to pain than Kisame? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png
You should've stated that. A common misconception. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Ahh, I remember that. But that's because he's awesome. Did he do any other bullet timing in the Chimera Ant Arc? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

When he developed an attack that is solely based on his threshhold for pain? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:45 PM
You should've stated that. A common misconception. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Ahh, I remember that. But that's because he's awesome. Did he do any other bullet timing in the Chimera Ant Arc? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

When he developed an attack that is solely based on his threshhold for pain? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Does it matter? He sitll did it. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Does that compare to Kisame's stomach and chest literally blown apart yet Kisame just laughed? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png
Does that compate to Kisame's surviving Afternoon Tiger's attack? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png



Mind you I am sure Kisame is one of the few who possess bullet time reactions at a fair distance. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:47 PM
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Does it matter? He sitll did it. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Does that compare to Kisame's stomach and chest literally blown apart yet Kisame just laughed? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png
Does that compate to Kisame's surviving Afternoon Tiger's attack? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png



Mind you I am sure Kisame is one of the few who possess bullet time reactions at a fair distance. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

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No, I was just wondering. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

That just means that he's a strange guy. What's your point? Has Feitan flinched at pain? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Mind me. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

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321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:52 PM
That just means that he's a strange guy. What's your point? Has Feitan flinched at pain? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Mind me. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png



It means Kisame has shown much better endurance to pain. Although Pain Packer is lethal is does reverse damage in a form of a sun so it will Kisame its just he will last some time longer than that Chimera Queen. But draining and drowning sort of bypasses that. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:53 PM
It means Kisame has shown much better endurance to pain. Although Pain Packer is lethal is does reverse damage in a form of a sun so it will Kisame its just he will last some time longer than that Chimera Queen. But draining and drowning sort of bypasses that. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Ahh, so it's called Pain Packer? Forgot the name of it.

Chimera Queen? What's that? (I missed the entire arc.)

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321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 05:56 PM
Chimera Ant Arc which is the current arc and still not completed. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Well Pain Packer is powerful but its downside is that the more damage you receive the stronger the attack.


Anyway by scaling Feitan has better speed and strength. But Kisame has everything else. So I stand by my original verdict. If Kisame spews a lake and Feitan gets swallowed up then Kisame is much more likely to win unless if Feitan uses pain packer underwater from being bitten by sharks (if Kisame does use 1000 sharks) which I don't know how that works.

Pain Packer underwater? Its a miniature sun that burns you. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 05:59 PM
Chimera Ant Arc which is the current arc and still not completed. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Well Pain Packer is powerful but its downside is that the more damage you receive the stronger the attack.


Anyway by scaling Feitan has better speed and strength. But Kisame has everything else. So I stand by my original verdict. If Kisame spews a lake and Feitan gets swallowed up then Kisame is much more likely to win unless if Feitan uses pain packer underwater from being bitten by sharks (if Kisame does use 1000 sharks) which I don't know how that works.

Pain Packer underwater? Its a miniature sun that burns you. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Yes, I haven't been reading. I'm still in the Greed Island Arc. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

So it works almost like Vegeta when he was trying to become a Super Saiyan. I knew that already, though. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Massive sun? Would be able to come out of the water and burn Kisame to hell. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 06:00 PM
Now that zig mentions the whole sun thing. What happens if Feitans turns the lake into soup.

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 06:01 PM
Its a small miniature sun. Nen fire manipulation in a way I guess. But again its a mini-sun, it has wide range yet if Feitan is sinking or being mauled by sharks I mean again, a mini-sun burning through the lake? Evaporating all of it? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 06:01 PM
Now that zig mentions the whole sun thing. What happens if Feitans turns the lake into soup.

What kind of retard would do that? He wouldn't cook himself. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png Ninja with bad grammar doesn't taste good anyway.

Spite is spite. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 06:02 PM
Its a small miniature sun. Nen fire manipulation in a way I guess. But again its a mini-sun, it has wide range yet if Feitan is sinking or being mauled by sharks I mean again, a mini-sun burning through the lake? Evaporating all of it? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Yes. If he can move it. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 06:03 PM
What kind of retard would do that? He wouldn't cook himself. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png Ninja with bad grammar doesn't taste good anyway.

Spite is spite. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Feitan wears Nen Armoro when using Pain Packer to protect himself but if I recall, the sun is quite small. Big as a normal human head I think. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Let me check if possible. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 06:04 PM
Feitan wears Nen Armoro when using Pain Packer to protect himself but if I recall, the sun is quite small. Big as a normal human head I think. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Let me check if possible. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

Then he could most likely throw it.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 06:04 PM
Then he could most likely throw it.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png

He doesn't throw it. He just summons it and it goes up.

Here is the video. It has scans though.

Shikamaru Nara
11-11-2010, 06:08 PM
It moves on its own.

Therefore it would come out of the lake and end up burning Kisame to bits.

321zigzag3
11-11-2010, 06:15 PM
It moves on its own.

Therefore it would come out of the lake and end up burning Kisame to bits.
The flame is incredibly hot but its too small to evaporate the entire lake. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


On the sheer chance it is out of the lake.

Either Samehada absorbs the heat since it is Nen created and energy equivalence Chakra is Nen for this match or Kisame just jumps into the water. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png


Anyway I think Feitan is more likely to win this since Kisame doesn't always barf up a lake. He does sometimes though. And Feitan may win with a plausible blitz. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2d6mz611.png