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blackmoon
11-09-2010, 02:40 PM
sasuke would win

6jonathan1
11-09-2010, 02:41 PM
spite thread is spite.

blackmoon
11-09-2010, 02:44 PM
what is spite

6jonathan1
11-09-2010, 03:06 PM
"Spite thread", which basically means someone does it out of spite against a character, or just lack knowledge of who's strong. Sasuke can't keep up with the speed of the nine-tails at its 8-tail state,plus,even if Sasuke use his Mangekyo Sharingan,it would be already too late since 8-tails would already reach him. And if you thing he can use Kirin,your wrong. Kirin would take alot of time for it to form up. Somebody lock this thread please?

Kuromaki
11-09-2010, 03:29 PM
Instead of just post farming saying "Sasuke will win" just like you did in every other thread concerning Sasuke you should provide a reason.

Anyway, Sasuke hasn't shown any defenses for a Menacing Ball, and his Susanoo hasn't shown the durability to tank it. If by some chance he caught the Kyubi in some hax Sharingan genjutsu he could win, seeing as the Kyubi is a sucker for the Sharingan, but that's not very likely with Naruto's new control and the sheer size of the fox.

skillr
11-09-2010, 04:28 PM
sasuke has plot but 8 tails wud flip him out of his self obsessed fantasy into the real world where... uh... he... is dumb

Devil's Lawyer
11-09-2010, 07:25 PM
I am about to end this thread. Sasuke is a uchiha he can control the Kyubi. My proof is when he went into Naruto mind and surpressed the Kyubi energy effortlessly. Sasuke makes it kill itself fight over.

Akatsuki X
11-09-2010, 08:12 PM
Except that Naruto actually has control over the Fox now?
And when Sasuke went into Naruto's mind, he only disrupted the Kyuubi's influence on Naruto, he didn't control it.

The only one who was shown to control it was Madara.

And that was when it wasn't sealed inside Naruto, it's not known if it can be controlled when it was sealed.

Devil's Lawyer
11-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Except that Naruto actually has control over the Fox now?
And when Sasuke went into Naruto's mind, he only disrupted the Kyuubi's influence on Naruto, he didn't control it.

The only one who was shown to control it was Madara.

And that was when it wasn't sealed inside Naruto, it's not known if it can be controlled when it was sealed.

That would be the case if we were talking about current Naruto but this is 8 taill Naruto who definetly didn't have control of his power. If he could disrupt it back then he can do it now. After that genjutsu spam chidori to the heart.

Akatsuki X
11-09-2010, 08:38 PM
Except genjutsu has never shown to be use against Kyuubi except for by Madara.
Meaning that Sasuke get's blasted into a million billion little emo pieces.

Devil's Lawyer
11-09-2010, 08:40 PM
Except genjutsu has never shown to be use against Kyuubi except for by Madara.
Meaning that Sasuke get's blasted into a million billion little emo pieces.

You misinterpreted what I said. I meant the genjutsu is for when Sasuke turns Naruto back to base form.

Akatsuki X
11-09-2010, 08:40 PM
And how will he manage to do that?

Devil's Lawyer
11-09-2010, 08:44 PM
And how will he manage to do that?

Again you remember when he casually went into Naruto mind and Supressed the fox and put it to sleep. That is one of his Sharigan abilities.

cnorwood
11-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Again you remember when he casually went into Naruto mind and Supressed the fox and put it to sleep. That is one of his Sharigan abilities.
but hes never done it to a full biju

Devil's Lawyer
11-09-2010, 09:26 PM
but hes never done it to a full biju

8 tails is not a fully released Kyubi. Its just Naruto raging. Don't you remember how effortless put it to sleep the first time. Totaly supressed it.(309 pg 13)

tyrell4life194
11-10-2010, 11:27 PM
sasuke would win
Why did you made this thread?

Bacon
11-10-2010, 11:37 PM
That would be the case if we were talking about current Naruto but this is 8 taill Naruto who definetly didn't have control of his power. If he could disrupt it back then he can do it now. After that genjutsu spam chidori to the heart.
Genjutsu doesn't work on the host of a jinchurruki who has transformed already. As was the case when Sasuke was clothes lined by Killerbee in their first encounter. As it turns out,madara doesn't have absolute control over the Kyuubi. He exploited Kushina when she was in a weakened state. So yea, genjutsu is absolutely usless against the kn8.

There's also the fact that Raikage powered through sasuano with his bare hands.

tyrell4life194
11-10-2010, 11:39 PM
Sasuke ain't doing crap to KN8.

Akatsuki X
11-11-2010, 01:01 AM
Again you remember when he casually went into Naruto mind and Supressed the fox and put it to sleep. That is one of his Sharigan abilities.

He merely disrupted the Fox's conversation.
If it wanted, the Kyuubi could most likely have returned and resumed taunting Naruto, but after that was done, they bot left his mind.

The only one who showed to be able to control the Kyuubi was Madara, and that was when it didn't have a host.

tyrell4life194
11-11-2010, 08:06 AM
Everyone ignore the debater known as Devil's Lawyer. He overpowers Sasuke to the point where it's downright fanwanking. Genjutsu won't work on a jinchuriki who has their tailed beast controlled. Killer Bee told him that. Stick with the manga kid.

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 10:57 AM
He merely disrupted the Fox's conversation.
If it wanted, the Kyuubi could most likely have returned and resumed taunting Naruto, but after that was done, they bot left his mind.

The only one who showed to be able to control the Kyuubi was Madara, and that was when it didn't have a host.

Nope that was supression it say so in wikia. That was a degree of control he used over the fox. All the traits of the fox Naruto was exhibiting in the real world outside his mind was gone.

Everyone ignore the debater known as Devil's Lawyer. He overpowers Sasuke to the point where it's downright fanwanking. Genjutsu won't work on a jinchuriki who has their tailed beast controlled. Killer Bee told him that. Stick with the manga kid.

Still haven't killed yourself. You should the people are waiting. Your blatant awesomeness overwhelms us.

Bacon
11-11-2010, 11:00 AM
Devil's lawyer, Madara never truly controlled the Kyuubi. He released it to a large degree after taking advantage of Kushina's weakened state. If Naruto was in the 8 tails, it would not be overcome by sasuke yet again. Take a loook at Killerbee who was in the far weaker 3 or 4 tail coat with the haichbi; he broke the genjutsu in an instant.

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 11:12 AM
Thats why I keep focusing on supression. As I go back over it Sasuke does control the kyuubi but supresses it power and control in Naruto. That is a power that Sasuke can use and would allow him to win this current fight. After Naruto is returned to normal Sasuke just has to spamm him with genjutsu.

Bacon
11-11-2010, 11:15 AM
He is preventing the Kyuubi from coming out,but it's not certain if the Kyuubi ouldn't come out. As I stated about the Haichi already, he won't be able to take hold for long.

Combine this with the fact that the 8 tails is already out. Sasuke is not overcoming the a nearly completeKyuubi.Remember Jiraiya's warning about the 2 tails and beyond back when Naruto was fighting Deidara? He said to seal the Kyuubi before a certain point. The same logic can be inferred here, it would be too late because naruto is starting off in the 8 tails.

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 11:23 AM
He is preventing the Kyuubi from coming out,but it's not certain if the Kyuubi ouldn't come out. As I stated about the Haichi already, he won't be able to take hold for long.

Combine this with the fact that the 8 tails is already out. Sasuke is not overcoming the a nearly completeKyuubi.Remember Jiraiya's warning about the 2 tails and beyond back when Naruto was fighting Deidara? He said to seal the Kyuubi before a certain point. The same logic can be inferred here, it would be too late because naruto is starting off in the 8 tails.

Ah but if we use that logic the same logic dictates that if Sasuke can supress the energy he can control it. Size is not an issue since Sasuke once controlled the massive Manda with his sharigan. Sasuke mastery of his Sharigan has been proven. The fox supression was his first Sharigan feat after the time skip with it. That wasn't a little feat and he did it casually with no real effort. So whats stopping him from using it on Naruto now.

Bacon
11-11-2010, 11:27 AM
Madara never controlled the fox, he merely unleashed it upon Konoha.

I wasn't referring tot he size of the beast,but rather the size of it's pool of chakra. He couldn't supress a low level Haichi coat,so how can he supress a nearly complete Kyuubi?

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 11:35 AM
Madara never controlled the fox, he merely unleashed it upon Konoha.

I wasn't referring tot he size of the beast,but rather the size of it's pool of chakra. He couldn't supress a low level Haichi coat,so how can he supress a nearly complete Kyuubi?

Thats probably due to the fact Bee is in complete control. Also Sharigan is said to only control the fox not the other eight.

Again when he supressed the fox enrgy the first time it was with no strain to him. It looked like it didn't even faze hime to do it. So energy size probably isn't that big of a issue.

Yori
11-11-2010, 11:39 AM
But we can't say Sasuke can do it now, because before Naruto didn't have the kind of control over the fox's chakra like he do now.

Bacon
11-11-2010, 11:42 AM
Thats probably due to the fact Bee is in complete control. Also Sharigan is said to only control the fox not the other eight.

Again when he supressed the fox enrgy the first time it was with no strain to him. It looked like it didn't even faze hime to do it. So energy size probably isn't that big of a issue.
He can't supress the fox's full power dude. Madara couldn't and niether could the Sauce. This argument would only be valid if he supressed it before the transformation took place.

If you haven't read it yet,naruto has a perfect seal now.

Devil's Lawyer
11-11-2010, 11:43 AM
But we can't say Sasuke can do it now, because before Naruto didn't have the kind of control over the fox's chakra like he do now.

Depends on what the op has in mind. If he was reffering to eeight tails Naruto at the time of Pain invasion the I say he can supress it. But if you are talking about Naruto turning into now and he control it then no he can't. Though Naruto hasn't shown he can do that in the first place.

tyrell4life194
11-11-2010, 02:03 PM
Nope that was supression it say so in wikia. That was a degree of control he used over the fox. All the traits of the fox Naruto was exhibiting in the real world outside his mind was gone.



Still haven't killed yourself. You should the people are waiting. Your blatant awesomeness overwhelms us.
Don't compare my "awesomeness" to Dudewanker's.

tyrell4life194
11-11-2010, 02:06 PM
But we can't say Sasuke can do it now, because before Naruto didn't have the kind of control over the fox's chakra like he do now.
Well, if Sasuke has the EMS, then he can try to control Naruto. But Genjutsu only create illusions, it doesn't control the mind, like Madara did to the Kyuubi fox 16 years ago. Genjutsu won't work on a jinchuriki who controlled their tailed beast's power.

The 1st Hokage
11-11-2010, 04:22 PM
Sasuke gets boned by KN8's tail slap.

tyrell4life194
11-11-2010, 06:08 PM
All KN8 has to do is breathe, and Sasuke gets killed.

Akatsuki X
11-11-2010, 10:00 PM
Even if Sasuke has shown supression, it was only in Naruto's subconscious.
There is absolutely NO evidence to suggest he could do so in the real world.

tyrell4life194
11-12-2010, 08:41 AM
Akatsuki X is completely right. Sasuke has no attacks to defeat KN8.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 09:42 AM
Even if Sasuke has shown supression, it was only in Naruto's subconscious.
There is absolutely NO evidence to suggest he could do so in the real world.

The whole activation repressed the demon energy completely which happened in the real world. Before they went into Naruto mind Naruto was turning into the kyuubi. After they returned completely normal. I will even get the page numbers showing it. That was a supression similiar to that seal Jiraiya gave Kakashi. I am not wanking Sasuke as it may seem. I am just pointing out Sasuke sharigan has that type of power.

tyrell4life194
11-12-2010, 11:59 AM
The whole activation repressed the demon energy completely which happened in the real world. Before they went into Naruto mind Naruto was turning into the kyuubi. After they returned completely normal. I will even get the page numbers showing it. That was a supression similiar to that seal Jiraiya gave Kakashi. I am not wanking Sasuke as it may seem. I am just pointing out Sasuke sharigan has that type of power.
Then you shouldn't have any trouble as to prove of how Sasuke is going to win against KN8.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 04:39 PM
Then you shouldn't have any trouble as to prove of how Sasuke is going to win against KN8.

Sigh if you read my previous post in this thread you would know that I pointed out Sasuke had the power to suppress the Kyubi in Naruto. Thus turning him normal. Read ch 308 pg 14 first that shows Naruto trying to resist the change into the Kyubi in the regular world. Then they go into Naruto mind read from pg 14 to Ch 309 pg 13. That shows Sasuke Supressing the demon fox energy. Read on until they are shown in the real world and Naruto is no longer turning. That move wasn't just in the mind it had real world applications.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 05:15 PM
Sigh if you read my previous post in this thread you would know that I pointed out Sasuke had the power to suppress the Kyubi in Naruto. Thus turning him normal. Read ch 308 pg 14 first that shows Naruto trying to resist the change into the Kyubi in the regular world. Then they go into Naruto mind read from pg 14 to Ch 309 pg 13. That shows Sasuke Supressing the demon fox energy. Read on until they are shown in the real world and Naruto is no longer turning. That move wasn't just in the mind it had real world applications.
Well hell, Yamato could supress KN4 with a hard time, and he has the 1st's genesand the necklace. KN8 is a whole different story from any of his other transformations. You can't do a comparison when KN8, who is already fully transformed, is on a whole different level of power than that Naruto in chapter 308.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 05:20 PM
Well hell, Yamato could supress KN4 with a hard time, and he has the 1st's genesand the necklace. KN8 is a whole different story from any of his other transformations. You can't do a comparison when KN8, who is already fully transformed, is on a whole different level of power than that Naruto in chapter 308.

Sasuke showed way better skills overall than Yamato. While Yamato usually tires out supressing Naruto even on a low level.(reference frs training) Sasuke did it without breaking his stride. There was no seals no or resitance from the fox just Sasuke putting his hand on the energy and pop it like a balloon. It was clear Kishi use that scene to demonstrate the power of the sharigan.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 05:26 PM
Sasuke showed way better skills overall than Yamato. While Yamato usually tires out supressing Naruto even on a low level.(reference frs training) Sasuke did it without breaking his stride. There was no seals no or resitance from the fox just Sasuke putting his hand on the energy and pop it like a balloon. It was clear Kishi use that scene to demonstrate the power of the sharigan.
My point stands. You also must of misinterpreted that chapter. Naruto wasn't transforming, he was rejecting Kyuubi's power. Sasuke stopped no transformation whatsoever.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 05:35 PM
My point stands. You also must of misinterpreted that chapter. Naruto wasn't transforming, he was rejecting Kyuubi's power. Sasuke stopped no transformation whatsoever.

I said that Naruto was resisting the transformation. But he wasn't suceeding. Sasuke was the one who pushed it back and stopped the kyuubi. It would be different if Sasuke struggled even a little bit to Supress it but he didn't. Its reasonable to say at Sasuke current power level he could supress an 8 tail Naruto.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 05:37 PM
I said that Naruto was resisting the transformation. But he wasn't suceeding. Sasuke was the one who pushed it back and stopped the kyuubi. It would be different if Sasuke struggled even a little bit to Supress it but he didn't. Its reasonable to say at Sasuke current power level he could supress an 8 tail Naruto.
Not succeeding? He was about to push the Kyuubi away. Naruto was in the middle of telling Kyuubi that he did not need Kyuubi's power. Sasuke simply intervened.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 05:42 PM
Not succeeding? He was about to push the Kyuubi away. Naruto was in the middle of telling Kyuubi that he did not need Kyuubi's power. Sasuke simply intervened.

Doesn't matter the fox couldn't offer up any resistance against Sasuke. It had no choice but to go back in the seal and calm down.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 05:46 PM
Doesn't matter the fox couldn't offer up any resistance against Sasuke. It had no choice but to go back in the seal and calm down.
You're completely disregarding the fact that this KN8 starts out fully transformed. No transformation for him to stop. Nothing to reverse, but say he does have the ability to reverse a fully transformed KN8, and he does it. Naruto blitzes with his new feats. Sasuke loses either way.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 05:58 PM
You're completely disregarding the fact that this KN8 starts out fully transformed. No transformation for him to stop. Nothing to reverse, but say he does have the ability to reverse a fully transformed KN8, and he does it. Naruto blitzes with his new feats. Sasuke loses either way.

I was running on the fact this was the kn8 that fought pain. Even if it wasn't Naruto hasn't shown that he can resist Sasuke level of genjutsu. Which is slightly weaker than Itachi's.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 06:05 PM
I was running on the fact this was the kn8 that fought pain. Even if it wasn't Naruto hasn't shown that he can resist Sasuke level of genjutsu. Which is slightly weaker than Itachi's.
Yeah, cuz that's the only KN8 we've seen. The one who broke out of CT and all. But even if Sasuke could reverse KN8, in bloodlust, it's go for the kill. No questions asked. Sasuke's not gonna try to reverse something he has no knowledge of. He's gonna try to kill it, then get a Kyuubi claw, killing him.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 06:17 PM
Yeah, cuz that's the only KN8 we've seen. The one who broke out of CT and all. But even if Sasuke could reverse KN8, in bloodlust, it's go for the kill. No questions asked. Sasuke's not gonna try to reverse something he has no knowledge of. He's gonna try to kill it, then get a Kyuubi claw, killing him.

I forgot about no knowledge. That changes it completely but not by much. Sasuke can still control creatures of that size.(hence when he controlled manda) Also there is Tsukiyomi or genjutsu. the only reason those didn't work on bee was because of the fact he was in fully control and in sync with his beast. Not Kn8 Naruto who couldn't control his.

Bacon
11-12-2010, 06:29 PM
http://www.soulsnpirates.com/images/smilies/lolhappy.gif

I read the manga and the sharingan does have the power to tame the full kyuubi,but that was Madara. Sasuke is certainly no master of his Ems and this control occured when he extracted it from a normal jinchuuriki,aka Kushina. Naruto's perfect seal may be the difference between Sasuke simply controlling it.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 07:09 PM
I forgot about no knowledge. That changes it completely but not by much. Sasuke can still control creatures of that size.(hence when he controlled manda) Also there is Tsukiyomi or genjutsu. the only reason those didn't work on bee was because of the fact he was in fully control and in sync with his beast. Not Kn8 Naruto who couldn't control his.
Is this just an assumption, or is there solid proof to back this up, because as far as I know, Genjutsu does not work on Bijuu's.

Devil's Lawyer
11-12-2010, 07:28 PM
Is this just an assumption, or is there solid proof to back this up, because as far as I know, Genjutsu does not work on Bijuu's.

Assumotion is an ugly word more like an educated guess. It would work on Naruto who is in fact the bijuu host. Again only bee is the only known host to resist.

The 1st Hokage
11-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Once again, where is the proof? All I see is an assumption.

Bacon
11-12-2010, 07:42 PM
I hate being ignored. -__-

Ch.501 page 7.

THE X UCHIHA
11-12-2010, 10:56 PM
Amaterasu is the only thing makes me wondering how the K8 is gonna evade it.
I mean K8 hasn't shown an actual speed feats.

The 1st Hokage
11-13-2010, 06:37 AM
Amaterasu is the only thing makes me wondering how the K8 is gonna evade it.
I mean K8 hasn't shown an actual speed feats.
He doesn'tr have to evade Amaterasu, he just has to tank it for a few seconds then impale Sasuke with one of his 8 tails.

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 06:42 AM
He doesn'tr have to evade Amaterasu, he just has to tank it for a few seconds then impale Sasuke with one of his 8 tails.

He wouldn't catch Sasuke at all. Did you not forget he could fly with his hawk. None of that matters since his energy would be supressed and he will be normal.

The 1st Hokage
11-13-2010, 06:49 AM
He wouldn't catch Sasuke at all. Did you not forget he could fly with his hawk. None of that matters since his energy would be supressed and he will be normal.
You don't get that Sasuke has no knowledge that KN8 can be reverted do you? And at 50 meters, KN8's tail could just slap the hell out of Sasuke and knock him out, but most likely he'd charge a Menacing Ball and blow the whole place up. Sasuke can't escape that. Also, you do know that summoning while trying to cast a genjutsu at the same time would be kinda hard.

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 07:04 AM
You don't get that Sasuke has no knowledge that KN8 can be reverted do you? And at 50 meters, KN8's tail could just slap the hell out of Sasuke and knock him out, but most likely he'd charge a Menacing Ball and blow the whole place up. Sasuke can't escape that. Also, you do know that summoning while trying to cast a genjutsu at the same time would be kinda hard.

Alright time to drop the suppression arguement amaterasu to the face. It haas been shown effective against the bijuu namely Bee.(yes I know the fight was fixed doesn't mean it wasn't effective) He would be kinda distracted by that. Don't say he can tank because Kn8 hasn't shown any abilities suggesting he can. Also only Sasuke can remove it.

crystalblade13
11-13-2010, 08:15 AM
what is this i dont even

The 1st Hokage
11-13-2010, 01:09 PM
Alright time to drop the suppression arguement amaterasu to the face. It haas been shown effective against the bijuu namely Bee.(yes I know the fight was fixed doesn't mean it wasn't effective) He would be kinda distracted by that. Don't say he can tank because Kn8 hasn't shown any abilities suggesting he can. Also only Sasuke can remove it.
KN8 tanked, and busted out of CT. A flame that couldn't kill Karin won't stop KN8 from charging and firing a Menacing Ball.

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 01:48 PM
KN8 tanked, and busted out of CT. A flame that couldn't kill Karin won't stop KN8 from charging and firing a Menacing Ball.

That has nothing to do with it. Karin taking that amaterasu was plot otherwise it wouldn't be able to drive off Bee. If it worked on a full form Bee it will work on Kn8. The Hachibi had to lose a tail in order to escape amaterasu. I doubt Kn8 would be to funtional with the flame burning his face. I don't care how powerful you are you can't tank an ever burning flame to the face.

The 1st Hokage
11-13-2010, 01:56 PM
That has nothing to do with it. Karin taking that amaterasu was plot otherwise it wouldn't be able to drive off Bee. If it worked on a full form Bee it will work on Kn8. The Hachibi had to lose a tail in order to escape amaterasu. I doubt Kn8 would be to funtional with the flame burning his face. I don't care how powerful you are you can't tank an ever burning flame to the face.
Well just think. Bee is fully intact with his beast. He can speak through it and all, but KN8 feels nothing, as shown when KN4 was being attacked by Orochimaru. He was stabbed by Kusinagi, the sword that can cut anything, and did nothing. Just stood there and took it, because it has no emotions, other than hate, just as Kyubi does.

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 02:02 PM
Well just think. Bee is fully intact with his beast. He can speak through it and all, but KN8 feels nothing, as shown when KN4 was being attacked by Orochimaru. He was stabbed by Kusinagi, the sword that can cut anything, and did nothing. Just stood there and took it, because it has no emotions, other than hate, just as Kyubi does.

If we go by that logic the fox cannot be destroyed. Which is highly doubtful since Kishi has shown it fighting multiple shinobi. I still stand to reason Amaterasu would kill Naruto. Unless you can prove the fox can remove it from his face.

Shikamaru Nara
11-13-2010, 02:05 PM
Dude, are you serious?

Sasuke gets his head blown off and little boys point and laugh at him after a menacing ball.

The 1st Hokage
11-13-2010, 02:05 PM
If we go by that logic the fox cannot be destroyed. Which is highly doubtful since Kishi has shown it fighting multiple shinobi. I still stand to reason Amaterasu would kill Naruto. Unless you can prove the fox can remove it from his face.
You can stand by it, but unless you can prove Aamterasu's consistancy and ability to hurt KN8, then I'll agree, but since Amaterasu's very inconsistent, it'll be hard to prove. Menacing Ball will take less prep than the time it will take Amaterasu to kill KN8.

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 02:19 PM
Alright I give on this battle but just so you know if Sasuke had pre knowledge he would have won with ease. Using the sharigan to supress it is within his abilities. Also it faster to shoot off amaterasu than menancing ball.

Shikamaru Nara
11-13-2010, 02:22 PM
But he doesn't. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 02:37 PM
But he doesn't. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/2z7exox.png

Pure technicality as usual that stops him from the kill. (Yeah post number 69)

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 04:04 PM
Sigh if you read my previous post in this thread you would know that I pointed out Sasuke had the power to suppress the Kyubi in Naruto. Thus turning him normal. Read ch 308 pg 14 first that shows Naruto trying to resist the change into the Kyubi in the regular world. Then they go into Naruto mind read from pg 14 to Ch 309 pg 13. That shows Sasuke Supressing the demon fox energy. Read on until they are shown in the real world and Naruto is no longer turning. That move wasn't just in the mind it had real world applications.
That doesn't prove anything. Just because Sasuke can supress the demon fox energy in Naruto's mind, doesn't mean he can do it outside of Naruto's mind. And you have yet to show any proof that he can supress his energy outside his mind.

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 04:07 PM
I forgot about no knowledge. That changes it completely but not by much. Sasuke can still control creatures of that size.(hence when he controlled manda) Also there is Tsukiyomi or genjutsu. the only reason those didn't work on bee was because of the fact he was in fully control and in sync with his beast. Not Kn8 Naruto who couldn't control his.
Manda=/=Kyuubi fox. Sasuke has no control over his EMS, and the only person who can control a beast of that size is Madara Uchiha.

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 04:07 PM
Alright I give on this battle but just so you know if Sasuke had pre knowledge he would have won with ease. Using the sharigan to supress it is within his abilities. Also it faster to shoot off amaterasu than menancing ball.
Proof?

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 04:08 PM
If we go by that logic the fox cannot be destroyed. Which is highly doubtful since Kishi has shown it fighting multiple shinobi. I still stand to reason Amaterasu would kill Naruto. Unless you can prove the fox can remove it from his face.
Proof?

Devil's Lawyer
11-13-2010, 04:30 PM
So you spam the whole thread with no debate just saying the word proof with no reasoning behind it. If you read the thread you would see that proof was given. Stop wasting Oxygen and die.

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 05:23 PM
So you spam the whole thread with no debate just saying the word proof with no reasoning behind it. If you read the thread you would see that proof was given. Stop wasting Oxygen and die.
You have yet to prove that Amaterasu can even harm KN8.
Typing in a thread=/=talking.

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 05:25 PM
Dude KN8 can't be affected by the Amaterasu. Here's the thing. KN4 was sent flying by Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi. The sword did nothing to KN4's skin, and this was the same attack that seriously injured Tsunade. Also, KN8 survived the CT, a mountain range busting attack. Amaterasu burns slowly, and didn't even seriously harm Karin, who is infact, MUCH weaker than KN8.

blackmoon
11-13-2010, 05:34 PM
i agree even if kn8 did take amaterastsu to the face it wouldnt effect because kn8 is much stronger than its other forms and also the amateratsu is no match for the fake fox blast . if sasuke gets hit wit that even a little he would die in a nano second

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 06:26 PM
All KN8 has to do is roar. That's it.

blackmoon
11-13-2010, 06:27 PM
Ikr..

tyrell4life194
11-13-2010, 06:28 PM
Yeah. Since this debate is over with, someone should lock this thread. And blackmoon, I'm gonna rep you for being a badass.