Kakashi Vs Killer Bee

[supersaiyan146]

Location: Konoha

Restrictions: None

Distance: 80 Meters

Discuss guys....

[Memitim]

Lemme start by saying, Killer Bee's a NO MATCH to Kakashi.Please don't spam in the battlegrounds.


As for the battle. Killer Bee takes this one. He's a lot faster and speedblitzes by lariating his head off....He did completely pwn all 4 members of Taka .. And IF that somehow doesn't work goes full 8-tails and completely rapes Kakashi.

Kakashi could just Kamui his head off though.

[cnorwood]

if kakashi doesnt start out with a kamui, he gets his head lariated off

[matsuro]

Wouldnt that take time for Kakashi though? Killer bee is pretty fast...

[SimpleGenin]

Kakashi kamuid Susano arrow. Bee is fast but I doubt his that much faster then Susano arrow.

With Kamui, Kakashi wins. It's super haxxed

[Sakura Yume]

That is ending it before even starting it. So you're saying that Killer bee is no match? ><

Nopes, I'm not ending. I'm posing a challenge. :/

Please don't spam in the battlegrounds.


As for the battle. Killer Bee takes this one. He's a lot faster and speedblitzes by lariating his head off....He did completely pwn all 4 members of Taka .. And IF that somehow doesn't work goes full 8-tails and completely rapes Kakashi.

Kakashi could just Kamui his head off though.

And, I'm not spamming. Just waiting for a worthy post to reply to.
Killer Bee's fast, I agree but Kakashi's got more brains than anyone else. He'll beat Killer Bee with tactics and send his octopus to a pan.

[supersaiyan146]

Kakashi kamuid Susano arrow. Bee is fast but I doubt his that much faster then Susano arrow.

With Kamui, Kakashi wins. It's super haxxed

^^ This is what I was looking for..Kamui GG ftw...

[Sakura Yume]

Wouldnt that take time for Kakashi though? Killer bee is pretty fast...

It would, but he sure will be ready with a plan where he can position his self such that he gets a nice view of Killer Bee and lock him up for target. Remember, Kakashi outsmarted Pain by making him think he was dead. Of which part, you can see that the Kamui does not take time to launch once the target is locked.

[Yori]

@Sakura. Thinking of a plan = Time = Kakashi get's lariated through his head = He Dies.

Time is key here, so don't say I'm sure Kakashi would think of a plan and outsmart him. That won't help your argument.

Moving on it's been proven kakashi can Kamui a Susanoo arrow right? Yeah Bee loses due to that. Geez Kakashi has been winning every BG battle since that chapter :mad:

[deidara330]

Let me start out my post by saying that, according to Wikipedia, average human reaction time (for college-age students) is 190 milliseconds. That means it takes them 190 milliseconds to react to something visually. Unless Killerbee can cross a distance of 80 meters in 190 milliseconds, Kakashi can react and respond, especially if he whips out his Sharingan, which is often credited for having much greater than average reaction time.

@Yori: Kakashi's been winning every BG battle because people assume Kamui > GG. It can be dodged, and takes time to prepare.

[Midnight789]

Kakashi kamuid Susano arrow. Bee is fast but I doubt his that much faster then Susano arrow.

With Kamui, Kakashi wins. It's super haxxed


People assume that when someone activates Kamui, the match is over, but if you take a look at the manga and the show. Kakashi uses only his Kamui when someone is not moving or when an object is coming at him straight on; remember when he used it against Daderia. Daderia was not moving all around, he was on top of a bird.

i think he will only use it if he can not do anything else, and you cant compare Susano arrow with Killer Bees movement, Killer Bee does not move in one direction; nobody does. if Kakashi misses, which i think he will beacuse of how fast Killer Bee is, he is finished due to the massive amount of chakra Kamui takes away.

[supersaiyan146]

People assume that when someone activates Kamui, the match is over, but if you take a look at the manga and the show. Kakashi uses only his Kamui when someone is not moving or when an object is coming at him straight on; remember when he used it against Daderia. Daderia was not moving all around, he was on top of a bird.

i think he will only use it if he can not do anything else, and you cant compare Susano arrow with Killer Bees movement, Killer Bee does not move in one direction; nobody does. if Kakashi misses, which i think he will beacuse of how fast Killer Bee is, he is finished due to the massive amount of chakra Kamui takes away.

Take a look at this post mate

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3714667&postcount=68

and the reply

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3715183&postcount=71

Kamui GG no matter what...

[Kuromaki]

I don't think that Kakashi can catch Killer Bee with Kamui from 80m away, and Killer Bee is pretty fast, so his speed shouldn't be underestimated here. When Kakashi Kamui'd the arrow, it was flying right into his path, which made it easier for it to be warped. Bee's unpredictable moves can counter this. He can also go into his higher Hachibi forms, in which case he would be too fast for Kamui.

Edit: @Supersaiyan: Killer Bee and Minato are two very different people...

[SimpleGenin]

I don't think that Kakashi can catch Killer Bee with Kamui from 80m away, and Killer Bee is pretty fast, so his speed shouldn't be underestimated here. When Kakashi Kamui'd the arrow, it was flying right into his path, which made it easier for it to be warped. Bee's unpredictable moves can counter this. He can also go into his higher Hachibi forms, in which case he would be too fast for Kamui.

Edit: @Supersaiyan: Killer Bee and Minato are two very different people...

It's no knowledge right? And bloodlusted? If it is, Bee would charge straight forward at Kakashi just like he did with Sasuke. That's why Bee got caught with Tsu. That proves that with no knowledge, and bloodlusted, Bee would get caught by Kamui. Or atleast it supports my idea.

[supersaiyan146]

Edit: @Supersaiyan: Killer Bee and Minato are two very different people...

It doesn't matter...look at the linear trajectory part....U'll find the answer..

[Kuromaki]

Actually, Kakashi could Kamui Bee if he used a linear Lariat.

So yeah Kakashi has a big chance of winning.

[Shikamaru Nara]

It doesn't matter...look at the linear trajectory part....U'll find the answer..
So then Kakashi moves a bit and Kamui's him. Gotta go with Kuro on this.

[tyrell4life194]

Just great, I get infracted for something my brother did. Apparantly, my bro hacked into my account again, and posted an inappropriate post on the TOAA vs Morgan Freeman thread. Just great.

[Sakura Yume]

@Yori: By this time of the manga, I doubt Kakashi would be coming up with a plan right on battle. He already have full knowledge about Killer Bee's abilities so, he would have formulated a thousand tactics before he faces Killer Bee. :P

@Midnight789: Wrong. Take a look at those episodes and chapters again. That was the time when his MS was activated so it was the first time that Kakashi used the Kamui and thus, the first shot was a test.

"I can't aim the dimensional barrier accurately, yet" He says. "But I'll get it the next time." If you review and check that part where his target is being animated, you'll realized that indeed, he locked his target at a point where all he could suck out to a different dimension were Deidara's hands. If he had moved a little to Deidara's center point, he would have got him. But then again, it was his first time to do it.

NS Eps 159, 15:00, the rocket chasing after Choji was not going in a straight path nor did Choji ran away from Kakashi in a straight line. Choji even had to jump down to a lower ground and run in curves to avoid the rocket who ran in curves with him.

From these two scenes, you can observe that once the target is locked, he gets to suck them out even if it moves away from a straight path.

Those targets were moving away from him. If killer bee charges toward him - and yeah, he does move with great speed toward sasuke but in a straight path - he sure will get caught in Kakashi's Kamui. One thing to note, the Sharingan sees through speed and even through the deflected paths caused by speed - one reason why Kakashi was able to defeat lightning. I doubt Killer Bee is faster than lightning. :p

About Kakashi with Susanoo though, this one's new to me, ha. Might check on that first, so no comment for now. :)

Happy to have been discussing with you, guys. :)

[Sakura Yume]

Let me start out my post by saying that, according to Wikipedia, average human reaction time (for college-age students) is 190 milliseconds. That means it takes them 190 milliseconds to react to something visually. Unless Killerbee can cross a distance of 80 meters in 190 milliseconds, Kakashi can react and respond, especially if he whips out his Sharingan, which is often credited for having much greater than average reaction time.


I agree. And that's just normal humans. Ninjas in Kishi's world surely would have more than that. Add in Kakashi's reputation with speed and action + his Sharingan, he'll outrun Killerbee for sure.

[321zigzag3]

It appears I missed a lot during my 2 week absece.

As for this thread.

Base Killerbee is faster than Kakashi by some margin in my opinion from what the manga showed and the fact Killerbee has a mastery over Raiton shows Kakashi's bunshin trick with the lighting shock trap and and Raikiri may not be so effective then again if it hit and manages to stun KB enough then that is another matter.

Anyway Kamui is really the best method for Kakashi to win.

[tyrell4life194]

Kakashi needs to use Kamui in order to win. Without it, he gets his head sliced off.

[Akatsuki X]

If Killerbee is able to zigzag his way over to Kakashi with his great base speed, it
s quite possible that he can attack before Kakashi has time to concentrate Kumai.

Also, 7 swords dance would make it hard for Kakashi to kumai him while avoiding so many close range taijutsu attacks.

Tailed forms would also give Bee a huge advantage.

[SimpleGenin]

Kakashi would be able to use Kamui with the starting distance. Bee has no knowledge right? If he doesn't, he would charge straight towards Kakashi because he doesn't know about Kamui. It's either Bee would charge or take a few seconds to go full hachibee. In either case Bee would get Kamui. If it's in character Bee would win becase he'd know to avoid Kamui.

[Akatsuki X]

Well Bee's base speed may be to fast for Kakashi to use kumai on.
With 7 swords dance which Bee usually uses from the start, he moves in rather irratically patterns which are hard to track for even advance sharingan users (like Sasuke)

But if not, then Kakashi could probably kumai his head off.

[SimpleGenin]

Kamui is just too haxxed.

Bloodlusted Bee would charge at Kakashi straight on. He wouldn't use the 7 sword move. He'd use that IC.

[321zigzag3]

The thing is Kakashi never uses Kamui when IC immediately but when Killerbee proves too fast for him he may resort to it soon even in IC.

[tyrell4life194]

Well, Killer Bee's speed might be enough for him to blitz Kakashi if he can't use his Kamui in time. It depends on how fast Kakashi can create Kamui.

[SimpleGenin]

If kakashi doesn't use Kamui right away then Bee wins. He is just too fast.


Think about it like this.

Kakashi is swift

but

Base Bee is crazy fast

hehe

[Dio Brando]

Ok you guys were just saying on Kirabi vs Konoha no Kiiroi Senkou thread that bloodlusted mean he go in his most powerful form.

That meaning Kamui wins Kakashi this match.

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

Kakashi kamuid Susano arrow. Bee is fast but I doubt his that much faster then Susano arrow.

With Kamui, Kakashi wins. It's super haxxed
yea..i agree..wi kamui kins it
but bee is pretty fast, close match..

[Midnight789]

@Yori: By this time of the manga, I doubt Kakashi would be coming up with a plan right on battle. He already have full knowledge about Killer Bee's abilities so, he would have formulated a thousand tactics before he faces Killer Bee. :P

@Midnight789: Wrong. Take a look at those episodes and chapters again. That was the time when his MS was activated so it was the first time that Kakashi used the Kamui and thus, the first shot was a test.

"I can't aim the dimensional barrier accurately, yet" He says. "But I'll get it the next time." If you review and check that part where his target is being animated, you'll realized that indeed, he locked his target at a point where all he could suck out to a different dimension were Deidara's hands. If he had moved a little to Deidara's center point, he would have got him. But then again, it was his first time to do it.

NS Eps 159, 15:00, the rocket chasing after Choji was not going in a straight path nor did Choji ran away from Kakashi in a straight line. Choji even had to jump down to a lower ground and run in curves to avoid the rocket who ran in curves with him.

From these two scenes, you can observe that once the target is locked, he gets to suck them out even if it moves away from a straight path.

Those targets were moving away from him. If killer bee charges toward him - and yeah, he does move with great speed toward sasuke but in a straight path - he sure will get caught in Kakashi's Kamui. One thing to note, the Sharingan sees through speed and even through the deflected paths caused by speed - one reason why Kakashi was able to defeat lightning. I doubt Killer Bee is faster than lightning. :p

About Kakashi with Susanoo though, this one's new to me, ha. Might check on that first, so no comment for now. :)

Happy to have been discussing with you, guys. :)

"NS Eps 159, 15:00, the rocket chasing after Choji was not going in a straight path nor did Choji ran away from Kakashi in a straight line. Choji even had to jump down to a lower ground and run in curves to avoid the rocket who ran in curves with him."

Please watch the episode again because you are so wrong. He used Kamui when it was going in a straight path to Choji, Choji might of been moving a lot but when the missile started to chase Choji in a straight path, that's when Kakashi used it

[Sakura Yume]

"NS Eps 159, 15:00, the rocket chasing after Choji was not going in a straight path nor did Choji ran away from Kakashi in a straight line. Choji even had to jump down to a lower ground and run in curves to avoid the rocket who ran in curves with him."

Please watch the episode again because you are so wrong. He used Kamui when it was going in a straight path to Choji, Choji might of been moving a lot but when the missile started to chase Choji in a straight path, that's when Kakashi used it

Yes and no. Yes, the rocket did come to a point where it went on a straight line. And no, Kakashi still does not the target to go on a straight line. Check closely. Kakashi hit it from the side and not from behind. The point here is about Kakashi's accurate calculations as to how and when he'd be able to get his target locked. ;)

[Sakura Yume]

If kakashi doesn't use Kamui right away then Bee wins. He is just too fast.


Think about it like this.

Kakashi is swift

but

Base Bee is crazy fast

hehe

Kakashi whipped his sharingan and is known to have defeated lightning, bro. I don't think Bee's faster than lightning. :)

[Phoenix Wright]

Being bloodlusted does not make you retarded, it means you're going for the kill and will win by all means. Meaning if Bee gets his arm kamuid off, or Kakashi gets his arm ripped off, he wouldn't feel the pain, he'd do whatever it takes to win.

Kakashi has never, and I repeat never, Kamui'd a moving target and had it successfully hit where he wanted it to. It's complete ;);););););););) when someone thinks that Kakashi can kamui an actual target that isn't flying right at him and isn't slow as crap. The Susano'o arrow was as small as crap when Kakashi was looking for it, it had no girth it was only long the long ways.

You people are insane thinking Kamui wins every single match, especially against a high tier speedster like KB. Sasuke's superior sharingan stood no chance at keeping up with KB not to mention Kakashi's far far inferior one who can barely throw out two kamuis without becoming extremely exhausted. And how the hell does Kakashi expect to survive a huge ass Hachibi menacing ball to the face, or Hachibi alone.

Killer Bee rapes.