Rock Lee vs. 70% Kisame

[zebrakiller]

Lee starts in Gates, Kisame has already summoned a lake of water, and they're both on the surface. 20m apart. I can never remember if the Kisame that fought Guy was 70% or 30%, but thats the one i mean. who wins?

[Nyruss]

It was 30%.

Without Afternoon Tiger there's no way for Kisame to lose this. A Thousand Feeding Sharks, GG.

[supersaiyan146]

Gai himself went 6 gates to take out a 30% Kisame and I doubt Lee can do it as of now....

So Victory to Kisame

[zebrakiller]

i only recall 30% showing 5 hungry sharks, how do we know he has enough chakra for a thousand? i thought Guy used morning peacock to take him down, which was incredibly overkill. A fifth gate reverse lotus should pack enough punch, it wouldve killed gaara if not for his shukaku sand armour.

[tyrell4life194]

Kisame stomps this. Kisame helded off Rock Lee, Neji, and Tenten, and was whupping Gai, with only 30% of his chakra.

This is a horrid rape.

[cnorwood]

as said afternoon tiger is the only hope here but that didnt even 1 shot a weakened kisame, lee gets waterdome blitzed

[tyrell4life194]

^This.

[zebrakiller]

y'all are powerscaling tho, stretching it too since he's only at 30%. i highly doubt kisame could push a decent water dome at 30%. the only reason he got neji, lee n tenten in water prison is because he caught them off guard, hence why neji was able to break out so easily. Kisame was whooping Guy in base, Lee is already in Gates. 5th gate lee speed, tho clearly not equal, is comparable to 6th gate Guy speed, i don't see how Lee could get blitzed.

[tyrell4life194]

^Fanwanker to the max here.

[[Shikamaru]]

^Fanwanker to the max here.
He stated facts and his thoughts.

You're just another power scaling kid with no logic.

Kisame at 30% was significantly weaker than his original state.

The most he showed was a water dragon and an exploding wave.

He maxed out with 5 sharks and 3 water clones. Gai was nearly keeping up with him with just the weights off.

Lee in gates would destroy 30% Kisame with a simple blitz.

Kisame showed no counter for Gai's gates, and Gai opened them in mid-battle.

With Lee in gates at start, this battle is already over. Kisame has no chance at pinpointing Lee with any of his jutsu in time. Lee can move 20 meters in a heartbeat while in gates. Kisame likely won't even be able to get a seal off before he's struck.

[tyrell4life194]

;4272879']He stated facts and his thoughts.

You're just another power scaling kid with no logic.

Kisame at 30% was significantly weaker than his original state.

The most he showed was a water dragon and an exploding wave.

He maxed out with 5 sharks and 3 water clones. Gai was nearly keeping up with him with just the weights off.

Lee in gates would destroy 30% Kisame with a simple blitz.

Kisame showed no counter for Gai's gates, and Gai opened them in mid-battle.

With Lee in gates at start, this battle is already over. Kisame has no chance at pinpointing Lee with any of his jutsu in time. Lee can move 20 meters in a heartbeat while in gates. Kisame likely won't even be able to get a seal off before he's struck.
Nice insult, overused. Stop trolling please.

Of course Kisame is stronger in his original form. He only had 30% of his chakra in his fight.

You forgot about the Samehada, which absorbs logic, your logic has failed.

Proof of Lee speedblitzing Kisame please. Kisame kept up with Killer Bee in the water dome. Stop your trolling please.

Fail again. Kisame's secret weapon is his Samehada. The Samehada can absorb chakra. It can be used to make the Samehada grow larger, or it can send chakra to Kisame, to either make him stronger, or heal his wounds. Read the Killer Bee vs Kisame fight, when his entire midsection was destroyed, and he was healed in a matter of seconds.

And Gai had to go into 6 Gates, just to be Kisame, who only had 30% of his chakra. Someone also said that his chakra supply is of that of a tailed beast.

[zebrakiller]

kisame's called the tailed beast with no tail. but thats irrelevant here. he was fighting KB at full strength. if u really wanna be asinine about it, give me feats that kisame can fuse with samehada as 30%. obviously when u take away the majority of chakra, ur gonna take away the majority of techniques he can use, since last time i checked jutsu need chakra.

[tyrell4life194]

kisame's called the tailed beast with no tail. but thats irrelevant here. he was fighting KB at full strength. if u really wanna be asinine about it, give me feats that kisame can fuse with samehada as 30%. obviously when u take away the majority of chakra, ur gonna take away the majority of techniques he can use, since last time i checked jutsu need chakra.
Kisame is called the Tailed Beast with no tail, because of his chakra. Each tailed beast have a substantial amount of chakra. Jinchuriki also have a substantial amount of chakra, likely due to their tailed beasts. Neji even stated that Kisame's chakra supply equals that of Naruto's and this is only with 30% of his chakra. I never said anything about Kisame fusing with Samehada, I said that Samehada can give Kisame some of its chakra that is absorbed, so Kisame can either increase in strength, or heal himself. Even with his 30% of his chakra, is chakra supply is comparable to Naruto's. And this is due to pure logic of mine.

[[Shikamaru]]

Chakra has nothing to do with speed features during that fight.

Kisame clearly couldn't keep up with Gai in gates.

Lee is not much slower than guy while in gates, it's evident Lee would have no issue blitzing and damaging Kisame at start.

His blade does absorb chakra, but it didn't stop Gai, nor will it stop Lee.

Kisame at 30% showed speed features that peaked at about Gai's base speed.

Lee in gates is much faster and strong than Gai in base.

Speed features later in the series that are drawn from the original Kisame do not apply in the debate.

[Akatsuki X]

Isn't this 70% Kisame, not 30%?

[tyrell4life194]

;4273248']Chakra has nothing to do with speed features during that fight.

Kisame clearly couldn't keep up with Gai in gates.

Lee is not much slower than guy while in gates, it's evident Lee would have no issue blitzing and damaging Kisame at start.

His blade does absorb chakra, but it didn't stop Gai, nor will it stop Lee.

Kisame at 30% showed speed features that peaked at about Gai's base speed.

Lee in gates is much faster and strong than Gai in base.

Speed features later in the series that are drawn from the original Kisame do not apply in the debate.
Chakra is energy, and the more energy you have, the more time you can maintain that speed. Also, if you have more energy, the stamina of yours can enable you to run at a faster pace. You should learn physics kid.

Just because Kisame isn't faster than Gai, doesn't mean that Kisame isn't faster than Lee. Gai and Lee aren't at the same speeds.

His blade does absorb chakra, you need to learn to read the manga. Read the Killer Bee vs Kisame fight.

Kisame kept up with Gai in base, with ease.

[zebrakiller]

Isn't this 70% Kisame, not 30%?
i meant 30% as i said in the op, not sure how to change the title