SM Jiraya, Itachi + Kisame vs. Pain

[Tourune]

Location Destroyed Konoha

Restrictions: All Jutsu's Work As In Manga (Accept Jiraya)

Distance: 50 Meters

[Rasengan SageX5]

I think that the team on the left could win. Jiraiya fought 3 on his own in Sage Mode, adding Itachi and Kisame would just make it too easy. Itachi could take at least two out with Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu and Kisame could just drain all of the chakra of the ones he fights. Heck on second thought, I bet Itachi could take them all down with Susanoo on his own.

[skillr]

susanoo kicks them into 1000 sharks who tear them apart then when deva gets up cus he repeled them he gets dual cho oodama rasengane'd into gamabunta who jumps into watedome and squashes him in it and his bosy gets totsuka'd

[Kuromaki]

Team one can't do crap against Chibaku Tensei, and a big Shinra Tensei like the one that leveled Konoha can take out at least two of them.

Preta path takes care of any ninjutsu Team 1 throws at him. He's shown good reaction speed and the ability to absorb many different types of jutsu, so he should be able to take on stuff like Dark Swamp or Water Globe. If not... Pain is screwed unless he uses his big moves before the other team uses theirs.

If any of them die, Naraka can do the reviving. In the meantime, Human can use his taijutsu, Asura can fire his lazors and Animal can spam summons. Lots and lots of summons.

I don't really understand the restrictions btw. But whatever.
I think that the team on the left could win. Jiraiya fought 3 on his own in Sage Mode, adding Itachi and Kisame would just make it too easy. Itachi could take at least two out with Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu and Kisame could just drain all of the chakra of the ones he fights. Heck on second thought, I bet Itachi could take them all down with Susanoo on his own.
I thought Susanoo's Totsuka Sword sealed souls into a genjutsu. If that's the case, can it even do that to Pain's bodies?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Honestly?

I think it's too much for one person to handle. They're all top tiers.

Itachi, Kisame, and Jiraiya will be a problem in speed especially.

Kisame has shown feats that are beyond Pain's, and may even solo depending on if he can live from ST or CST.

[Kuromaki]

Honestly?

I think it's too much for one person to handle. They're all top tiers.

Itachi, Kisame, and Jiraiya will be a problem in speed especially.

Kisame has shown feats that are beyond Pain's, and may even solo depending on if he can live from ST or CST.
Except it isn't one person. `:P

Most of the paths have shown good reaction speed, especially the higher tier ones. No blitz will be happening here unless it's with someone like Naraka, who's guarded by the others because his powers are so valuable.

If it broke boss summon bones, what makes you think it can't break Kisame's? CST is definitely out of the question unless you're claiming that Kisame has village level durability.

Then again, Samehada can heal, but Pain can repel that too..

[Bacon]

If it broke boss summon bones, what makes you think it can't break Kisame's? CST is definitely out of the question unless you're claiming that Kisame has village level durability. __________________

What could break that mobile mountain of water?

[Kuromaki]

What could break that mobile mountain of water?
Preta could absorb it or Deva could repel it as it's being made, Animal could also get on the bird summon and have the paths fly away, many things. But like I said if that doesn't work Pain's screwed `:P

[THE X UCHIHA]

Pein solos.

reasons :

1. Jiraya already had lost his chances to win since Pein had him killed.
2. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is useless 'cuz pein has six bodies.
3. Preta can absorb Susano'o and Amaterasu.
4. all Kisame's attacks are Ninjutsu

then Deva ends this battle by Shinra Tensei , Or Chibaku Tensei.

[Rasengan SageX5]

Can Preta absorb Susanoo while he is being sealed into the sword? I don't think so.

[Kuromaki]

Can Preta absorb Susanoo while he is being sealed into the sword? I don't think so.
I countered this earlier.

To add to that, It's not like the paths are going to stand there and let themselves get hit by the sword.

If the first team wins, then it's definitely not with Itachi soloing. He'd need distractions from his teammates to get every path with the sword.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Can Preta absorb Susanoo while he is being sealed into the sword? I don't think so.

the right Ms is for Genjutsu and the left for Ninjutsu , therefore; Preta can absorb Amaterasu , but I'm not sure about Susano'o to be honest.

but anyway , Deva path ends this by CT or ST.

[Akatsuki X]

Unless you restrict Chou Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei,
any character in which Pain is put up against in the Narutoverse, he pretty much beats.

Honestly, this fight isn't very fun when Deva just whips out a village buster and kills all of them simultaneously.

[cnorwood]

jiraya kills 4 like he did in the manga and kisamehada and susanoo take care of the other 2

[Dio Brando]

jiraya kills 4 like he did in the manga and kisamehada and susanoo take care of the other 2

Shinra Tensei.

[gama-sennin]

Er...This is a team battle and its not like everyone from J-man's team has to survive...So what if J-man prepares the frog song(ma and pa thingy) while Pain stomps Itachi and Kisame?

[Kuromaki]

Er...This is a team battle and its not like everyone from J-man's team has to survive...So what if J-man prepares the frog song(ma and pa thingy) while Pain stomps Itachi and Kisame?
Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei.

Also, not all of the paths have to focus on the other two.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Honestly, this fight isn't very fun when Deva just whips out a village buster and kills all of them simultaneously.

the thread's title must be changed to { Deva path vs. Jiraya , Itachi and Kisame }

[Rasengan SageX5]

If Pain wants to use Chou Shinra Tensei, he(Nagato) has to focus all of his chakra into Deva Path, which means that the others paths are just corpses while he does the move. Besides having to focus all chakra into Deva, Deva also has to build up his chakra for a while before he can use one as big as the one that trashed the Leaf Village.

[tyrell4life194]

If Pain wants to use Chou Shinra Tensei, he(Nagato) has to focus all of his chakra into Deva Path, which means that the others paths are just corpses while he does the move. Besides having to focus all chakra into Deva, Deva also has to build up his chakra for a while before he can use one as big as the one that trashed the Leaf Village.
Shinra Tensei. Nuff said.

[Slack 40]

Kisame has shown feats that are beyond Pain's, and may even solo depending on if he can live from ST or CST.
no no no no no no no

Kisame won't be healing much if his body is completely crushed killing him before samehada even gets the chance to heal him.

Pain wins with CST or CT
without those two moves left side would stomp

[tyrell4life194]

Honestly?

I think it's too much for one person to handle. They're all top tiers.

Itachi, Kisame, and Jiraiya will be a problem in speed especially.

Kisame has shown feats that are beyond Pain's, and may even solo depending on if he can live from ST or CST.
Pein has 6 bodies. He isn't one person.

Kisame isn't soloing. You're overestimating Kisame to the point where it's downright fanwanking. Pein's ST busted a village. No way Kisame is gonna survive that.

[Yori]

Deva CT, Fight over

[tyrell4life194]

Deva CT, Fight over
^Ditto.;)

[Jakropha]

Heres how I see the fight

1: Chibaku tensei and Shinra Tensei (Big one) can only be used if he's focusing all his chakra to the Deva path

2: Kisame can just chop up the other bodies in a flash

3: Itachi's Susanoo can block Shinra tensei

GG Deva.

Itachi's Susanoo is the key player against it, if its not active, GG team 1

[tyrell4life194]

Heres how I see the fight

1: Chibaku tensei and Shinra Tensei (Big one) can only be used if he's focusing all his chakra to the Deva path

2: Kisame can just chop up the other bodies in a flash

3: Itachi's Susanoo can block Shinra tensei

GG Deva.

Itachi's Susanoo is the key player against it, if its not active, GG team 1
1. Chibaku Tensei. Nuff said.

2. No he won't.

3. Itachi's Susanoo can't tank an attack that can bust a village at full power, unless you have proof that it can.

[TheBlackChidori]

Can Preta absorb Susanoo while he is being sealed into the sword? I don't think so.


Totsuka is a Soul-Sealing Genjutsu. This bodies aren't reanimated souls. They are dead bodies that receive Nagato's chakra through chakra rods. If he hit Nagato with the sword, it'd be a different story, but that's not going to happen with 6 paths to kill.

[Rasengan SageX5]

What I was trying to get at when I said that Nagato has to focus all chakra in Deva Path is that when he does, Deva is going to be alone against 3 strong and fast opponents, so he would be speedblitzed before he could use Shinra Tensei.

[Kuromaki]

They can't get Deva if he's in the sky.

He doesn't have to use CST either, and there's no guarantee that he will.

[gama-sennin]

Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei.

Also, not all of the paths have to focus on the other two.

But J-man has already proved that he is more than capable of handling paths (other than Deva)...IF Kisame and Itachi manage to keep Deva busy for a while then that will be more than enough for J-man...

If Deva tries a CST then Nagato has to concentrate most of his chakra in one path and that leaves other paths vulnerable..Katsuyu tanked CST...So I think J-man will be able to tank it using Toad mouth/stomach to hide inside...Put that together with his SM durability, exhausted Deva and weak other paths...

[THE X UCHIHA]

What I was trying to get at when I said that Nagato has to focus all chakra in Deva Path is that when he does, Deva is going to be alone against 3 strong and fast opponents, so he would be speedblitzed before he could use Shinra Tensei.

you have a good point. and I can't disapprove it, but you also can't prove that the three opponents have the speed and the skill to fly upto Deva's height while he's collecting energy to use CTS.

[Kuromaki]

But J-man has already proved that he is more than capable of handling paths (other than Deva)...IF Kisame and Itachi manage to keep Deva busy for a while then that will be more than enough for J-man...

If Deva tries a CST then Nagato has to concentrate most of his chakra in one path and that leaves other paths vulnerable..Katsuyu tanked CST...So I think J-man will be able to tank it using Toad mouth/stomach to hide inside...Put that together with his SM durability, exhausted Deva and weak other paths...
Asura alone was able to sneak up on Jiraiya. At the very least, the other paths can keep Jiraiya busy.

Like I said he doesn't need to use CST, and how durable is that toad stomach?

[gama-sennin]

Asura alone was able to sneak up on Jiraiya. At the very least, the other paths can keep Jiraiya busy.


He caught J-man off gaurd...That wont be the case in actual battel with all six paths in front of his eyes... Against three opponents of this level, pain wont play any games(like sending only 3 paths) and that(having all six out) will be a major advantage for team A...


Like I said he doesn't need to use CST, and how durable is that toad stomach?

It forced Itachi to use Amaterasu and this proves that the durability is quite high...Otherwise Itachi would have simply used some exploding tags....

[Kuromaki]

He caught J-man off gaurd...That wont be the case in actual battel with all six paths in front of his eyes... Against three opponents of this level, pain wont play any games(like sending only 3 paths) and that(having all six out) will be a major advantage for team A...



It forced Itachi to use Amaterasu and this proves that the durability is quite high...Otherwise Itachi would have simply used some exploding tags....
How so?

I would think that CST>>>>>Amaterasu. Head Laser could probably break it too.

[gama-sennin]

How so?


Pain/Nagato's main strength lies in numbers and surprize factor...J-man lost because he had no idea about the numbers and thought that he had won the fight after killing the three paths...

But if all the paths are in front of them and Itachi and Kisame manage to keep Deva busy for a while(J-man is already in SM which means that ma and pa are already summoned) then J-man will be able to prepare for the frog song...



I would think that CST>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Amaterasu. Head Laser could probably break it too.

Fixed...xD

But I used Ammy only to say that frog stomach/mouth can tank quite a bit...

[tyrell4life194]

He caught J-man off gaurd...That wont be the case in actual battel with all six paths in front of his eyes... Against three opponents of this level, pain wont play any games(like sending only 3 paths) and that(having all six out) will be a major advantage for team A...

You have great knowledge.

It forced Itachi to use Amaterasu and this proves that the durability is quite high...Otherwise Itachi would have simply used some exploding tags....
Amaterasu wasn't that strong to begin with. And I've been to forums when people would overhype Amaterasu to the point where it's downright fanboyism. It didn't even singe Karin.

[tyrell4life194]

Here's the thing about Pein. Pein has six bodies that he uses to take down foes. The Deva Path uses the Shinra Tensei and the Chibaku Tensei. The Asura Path fires rockets at either short range or long range. Either way, it's a very good long range attack. The Animal Path summons animals. The Human Path literally steals souls. The Naraka Path revives the dead, and the Preta Path absorbs attacks. Pein is highly skill when he fights because he has a very great balance of defense and offense. Losing even one of these Paths can create a large dent in either his defense or his offense. Kisame, Itachi, and Jiraiya, are all Supersonis (I don't know about Itachi though). Itachi has the Susano'o, the Tsukuyomi, and the Amaterasu. Kisame has the 1000 shark missles, Samehada, and the 5 Great Sharks. Jiraiya has SM, variations of Rasengan, and Ma and Pa for him to use Frog Song. If they can think of a strategy like Naruto did, then they can pull off a win. But if Pein get in the air and uses Shinra Tensei, it's only a matter of time before they're defeated.

[Kuromaki]

Pain/Nagato's main strength lies in numbers and surprize factor...J-man lost because he had no idea about the numbers and thought that he had won the fight after killing the three paths...

But if all the paths are in front of them and Itachi and Kisame manage to keep Deva busy for a while(J-man is already in SM which means that ma and pa are already summoned) then J-man will be able to prepare for the frog song...




Fixed...xD

But I used Ammy only to say that frog stomach/mouth can tank quite a bit...
You act like the other paths aren't going to do anything.

Still doesn't change the fact that it hasn't shown the ability to tank the stuff I mentioned.

[tyrell4life194]

OK, unless you Kisme wankers can provide proof of Kisame tanking a CT, then this thread is over with.

[THE X UCHIHA]

yari yari , seems like this debate is endless `|(

[tyrell4life194]

I can't believe this debate is still going. I thought people would have enough common sense to know that Pein can beat just about any Naruto character.

[THE X UCHIHA]

there is nothin we can do , T4L194.

[tyrell4life194]

Lock this thread people.

[RINNEMAN1]

Chou Shinra Tensei. The End

[Kaito Kid]

I have a question. If tsukuyomi only works if you look into the users eyes, couldnt all of the paths be caught in it if just one looks at it because they all see the same thing:?:

[Kuromaki]

I have a question. If tsukuyomi only works if you look into the users eyes, couldnt all of the paths be caught in it if just one looks at it because they all see the same thing:?:
Well theres a problem. Tsukuyomi has not been shown working on more than one person at once. So even if they all saw it they might not all be affected.

[supersaiyan146]

This is a rape thread...No way in hell is Pain gonna defeat these three at once....

Itachi himself can take out atleast a couple of bodies with Amaterasu and Tsukoyomi...Add to that Susanoo which easily takes care of Summons...

Jiraiya has swamp of the underworld + Boss sized summons...

Kisame's in his shark form is a beast...

[supersaiyan146]

Chou Shinra Tensei. The End

For that Pain needs to disconnect himself from all the bodies.....and that will be his downfall.....