Danzo vs. Orochimaru

[Tourune]

Location: Blue Samurai Bridge

Restrictions: None

Distance: 90 Meters

[THE X UCHIHA]

if Oro figured the way Izanagi works ( as Sasuke did ), I think he's gonna be the winner.

[TheBlackChidori]

Hydra takes this. Edo Tensei cause of lack of restriction. Without those two things, Orochimaru gets stomped.

[Akatsuki X]

I don't see how Hydra would be a factor thou,
it's not like it showed any impressive speed feats, and Baku could easily restrain it while Danzo cuts it up with Fuutons.

Edo Tensei requires way to much prep for it to be used, unless prep was given.

And I don't see how Oro gets around Izanagi.
Even with Oral Rebirth, he is limited in the number of times he can heal.

[THE X UCHIHA]

but Oro can waste time till the 10 sharingans get closed. that if he ( Oro ) figured the way Izanagi works.

then Oro uses Hydra and kills Danzo.

[cnorwood]

orochimaru kills him 10 times eaisly

[Lady Tsunade]

Danzo has his mind control, since they're BL. He'll be starting off with it. Ban that, along with a few of Danzos eyes, being able to use one of his eleven eyes every minute is simply overkill. Ban that, And we have a match.

[SimpleGenin]

How excactly can Danzo kill Orochimaru? Orochimaru was casually tanking hits from four tailed Naruto with ease in his weakened state.? Orochimaru simply kills Danzo after Izanagi wears off.

Mind Control - Danzo never showed the ability to control an opponent in middle of a fight therefor we can't even make an accurate assumption on how it would affect his opponent.

[TheBlackChidori]

Orochimaru has much more durability than Sasuke... Danzo has nothing that can take Hydra out. Fuutons are not going to kill Hydra...Without Susano'o and the Totsuka and Mirror, Itachi would have been screwed.

Think about it, he pulled out his absolute strongest Jutsu for it, killing himself in the process. Sasuke was "killed" twice by base KB, who is nowhere NEAR as strong as 4-tailed Naruto... which like SG said, Orochimaru tanked it in weakened state.

[Dio Brando]

Rokudaime Hokage Shimura Danzou gets eaten by Densetsu no Sannin Orochimaru's Yamata no Jutsu.

[Akatsuki X]

How excactly can Danzo kill Orochimaru? Orochimaru was casually tanking hits from four tailed Naruto with ease in his weakened state.? Orochimaru simply kills Danzo after Izanagi wears off.



Danzo can kill Oro with Fuuton's or Izanagi.
In their entire fight, KN4 was just standing their, barely putting up a fight, and Oro was still struggling.

And considering that fact that he only survived that fight due to Oral Rebirth and Triple Rashomon.

Izanagi lets Danzo use any attack he can think of against Oro, I don't see how Oro survives all 10 minutes.

Orochimaru has much more durability than Sasuke... Danzo has nothing that can take Hydra out. Fuutons are not going to kill Hydra...Without Susano'o and the Totsuka and Mirror, Itachi would have been screwed.

Think about it, he pulled out his absolute strongest Jutsu for it, killing himself in the process. Sasuke was "killed" twice by base KB, who is nowhere NEAR as strong as 4-tailed Naruto... which like SG said, Orochimaru tanked it in weakened state.

Sasuke tanked much more than Oro ever has.
Granted, this is due mostly to PnJ, still is is accounted for.

Why won't fuuton's kill hydra?
They easily sliced through Sasuke's Susano'o, which has shown far greater durability than Hydra, who's only feat is being sealed.

Oro did by no means tanked it.
He barely survived, despite putting up his strongest defense against it.

Rokudaime Hokage Shimura Danzou gets eaten by Densetsu no Sannin Orochimaru's Yamata no Jutsu.

Wrong, Danzo use's Izanagi and kills Oro.

[Slack 40]

Manda can easily take Baku, which isn't as massive.
Hydra>Susanoo without The Mirror and Shield. Oro said this himself he said to itachi that Itachi knows a technique as powerful as susanoo can't defeat him, the only reason it did was because of the toskta blade and yamata mirror
so its safe to say Hydra>normal Susanoo>Baku

Oro can spam snake summons and then use Sea of Snakes to make hundreds of snakes with mini kusanagi swords to kill danzo 10 times.


With Shuishi's uberhaxx eye Danzo wins though. Without it Orochimaru wins


oh and Akatsuki X orochimaru wasn't struggling he was toying with KN4 and having a grand old time fighting him

[Devil's Lawyer]

Danzo takes this casually the time it takes Oro to figure Izanagi out he would be dead. Danza appears behind him cuts his head off fight over.

[THE X UCHIHA]

How excactly can Danzo kill Orochimaru? Orochimaru was casually tanking hits from four tailed Naruto with ease in his weakened state.? Orochimaru simply kills Danzo after Izanagi wears off.

Mind Control - Danzo never showed the ability to control an opponent in middle of a fight therefor we can't even make an accurate assumption on how it would affect his opponent.

logical analyzing , I'm agreed w/u.

[Akatsuki X]

Manda can easily take Baku, which isn't as massive.

But Baku could hold it long enough with vacuum for Danzo to kill Oro.

Hydra>Susanoo without The Mirror and Shield. Oro said this himself he said to itachi that Itachi knows a technique as powerful as susanoo can't defeat him, the only reason it did was because of the toskta blade and yamata mirror
so its safe to say Hydra>normal Susanoo>Baku

Then in your knowledge
Hydra>Kirin?
Itachi's Susano'o tankes Kirin,
while this may have been due to the Yata Mirror, it was still forming while Sasuke hit him with Kirin, so I don't think it had yet wielded the shield.

Plus Sasuke's Susano'o with arrows and Amaterasu bones could also kill Hydra.

Oro can spam snake summons and then use Sea of Snakes to make hundreds of snakes with mini kusanagi swords to kill danzo 10 times.

Unless Danzo has Izanagi activated in which case he can't die.

With Shuishi's uberhaxx eye Danzo wins though. Without it Orochimaru wins

I agree.


oh and Akatsuki X orochimaru wasn't struggling he was toying with KN4 and having a grand old time fighting him

Except that KN4 was just standing in one spot spamming attacks while Oro had to run around, had his sea of snakes destroyed casually, was cut in half, and almost killed by Menacing Ball. I don't think he was toying around.


Gray.

[SimpleGenin]

Orochimaru wasn't trying as hard as he could have. He even claim that the fight was fun. He didn't sound like a person fighting for his life. Danzo still can't kill Orochimaru. If Oro can manage to regenerate from being cut in half and being beat up to a pulp by KN4, he could certainly tank anything from Danzo.

Shisui's eyes was never used in a battle therefor we can't assume the affect it might cause.

[Dio Brando]

What he said ^

Shimura Danzou have no way of killing Orochimaru.

His Fuuton is a joke compared to Yonbi Naruto.

[mrsticky005]

Shisui's eye may have never been used in battle but it was used against Mifune
rather easily. It wasn't until Ao pointed out that it was used did anyone but Danzo
know Mifune was under Danzo's spell. I don't see why Danzo wouldn't be able to
use such a technique in battle. It's just a really powerful genjutsu. Orochimaru
got caught in Itachi's Tsukiyomi so I think he would get caught in Shisui's too.

Danzo uses Shisui's eye. Orochimaru commits suicide.

Danzo wins

or

Danzo uses Izanagi. Danzo teleports and uses Curse Seal. Oro is frozen still.
Danzo goes crazy with wind style jutsu and Baku summoning and Wood
Style jutsu while Oro is stuck. Oro is cut to pieces that Danzo chews up and spits out. Danzo wins.

[SimpleGenin]

No one can ever guess how Shisui's eye technique might affect an enemy. It's hard to explain really. It's like we don't know the extent of it's power on both ends. By using Shisui's eyes, how excactly would it affect Orochimaru in the middle of a battle? Will he just stop moving? Because when Shisui's eye technique was explained they said that it has the power to control mind without the other person realizing it. So is it safe to sat that with Shisui's eye, his opponent would just commit suicide if Danzo wanted the enemy too? It's hard to explain because of how the technique
works

[Vivi]

Hydra takes this. Edo Tensei cause of lack of restriction. Without those two things, Orochimaru gets stomped.

You do amuse me so TBC.Not in a positive way though mind you.
Do remember that the only time we saw Oro use the Hydra was when he came out of Sasuke's Cursed Seal.
Please show proof that he can do so otherwise.

Too bad Edo Tensei requires prep which he doesn't have here.
Unless someone made a new Rule that Oro has Zaku and Kin as Auto Sacrifices it's a no go.
If he has the latter it's a different Story of course.

[TheBlackChidori]

You do amuse me so TBC.Not in a positive way though mind you.
Do remember that the only time we saw Oro use the Hydra was when he came out of Sasuke's Cursed Seal.
Please show proof that he can do so otherwise.

Too bad Edo Tensei requires prep which he doesn't have here.
Unless someone made a new Rule that Oro has Zaku and Kin as Auto Sacrifices it's a no go.
If he has the latter it's a different Story of course.

No restrictions usually means prep, but I'll play without it.

Where did Sasuke show a single speed feat that has compared to 4-tailed Naruto? Also, how would Orochimaru only be able to use Hydra out of Sasuke? Orochimaru was at his absolute weakest when he was absorbed by Sasuke. His will was overpowered, his soul was split, and he had no body of his own.

Pulling out the "He can only do it specific circumstances" card isn't a fair fight. If you wanna get technical, any character can only do things in specific circumstances.

Also, to the people using Shisui's eye as a defense... No. Danzo only had the main's arm and one eye, and has only showed the ability to control decision making of a Samurai with no real strength-feats. Last I check, Sam's dont go through Genjutsu resistance training. Think about it, Danzo was only manipulating some of Mifune's thoughts(that he was going to decide on even without being controlled). They were all sitting in a calm, relaxed environment.

Orochimaru is not the type who can have his will controlled. He showed vulnerability to Tsukiyomi... Who the hell hasn't? Even Sharingan masters have fallen victim to it? A partial mind-control talent isn't going to win Danzo this battle. In no way has he shown ANY ability to use it in battle.

At least Shisui had the reputation of being the teleport ninja, because he found ways to use his abilities in battle. Danzo never showed a single use of Shisui's eye in his battle with Sasuke.

60 seconds per eye, 10 eyes... That's only 10 minutes that Orochimaru has to last against Danzo, who has not shown any durability feats outside of Izanagi.

Anyway, here is the largest thing. Danzo never starts unsealed. Fu and Torune were able to distract Madara long enough for Danzo to get unsealed and ready for Sasuke. How is he going to distract Orochimaru, on a straight bridge?

Orochimaru also has Triple Rashomon to take care of Baku or any major wind attacks. He had the speed and reaction to counter Menacing Ball in time, show me something Danzo has stronger than Menacing Ball?

[Pain_man_who_became_god]

edo-tensei, triple rashomon, white snake danzo cant tank anything orochi throws. danzos gonna be teh dead

edit: and manda owns that tapir plus hydra. hydra for the win

[Akatsuki X]

People seems to forget that Danzo's Fuutons ripped through Susano'o.
They aren't weak at all.

[SimpleGenin]

People seems to forget that Danzo's Fuutons ripped through Susano'o.
They aren't weak at all.

Who's to say Orochimaru can just tank that? I don't know if anyone realized it but most physical attacks are really nothing to Orochimaru. However with Danzo, you can't say the same after Izanagi runs out.

[Akatsuki X]

That's not true at all.
The only reason Oro is able to do well against physical attacks is because of Oral Rebirth.

Which uses a huge amount of chakra, so he can't spam it.

He could only tank a few fuutons before dying.

[Bacon]

Whose to say that he can't hold his ground against Danzo with a summoned snake or use Universal Assimilation?

[gama-sennin]

Do remember that the only time we saw Oro use the Hydra was when he came out of Sasuke's Cursed Seal.
Please show proof that he can do so otherwise.


This is exactly like saying that Deva used CST/CT only once in Konoha and hence he cant do it anywhere else.

Using a technique once is more than enough to say that the character is capable of using it.

[SimpleGenin]

That's not true at all.
The only reason Oro is able to do well against physical attacks is because of Oral Rebirth.

Which uses a huge amount of chakra, so he can't spam it.

He could only tank a few fuutons before dying.

Huh? Oro didn't have trouble fighting against 4 tailed. And he was dying too.

Oro tanks anything Danzo throws, after ten minutes Danzo is dead.

Fuuton is noooooo where near as powerful as Chakra blast. Name a move of Danzo that is stronger or even near the chakra ball's strength.