Superman vs Kakashi reply

[Realninja 2.0]

Man you guys are some girls. Just debate I wasnt going to change anything. Kakashi Kamui speed and Supes eye vision are about the same speed. Unless you can come up with something he torched faster. No proof was offered of him capable of tanking a Kamui. Because there is no proof only prime has that power. Whoever closes this thread with no arguement is a flamming homo.

[Devil's Lawyer]

This is a toss up. I think kamui might win this. He can absorb an massive explosion Why not Supes heat wave?

[Nyruss]

Because it's not like Superman can maintain his heat vision and keep using it even in the unlikely event that Kakashi somehow managed to survive long enough to use Kamui to absorb some of it.

[Devil's Lawyer]

What about a straight Kamui to the head kill the source?

[Nyruss]

You'd have to prove that Kamui is strong enough to bypass Superman's durability.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Kamui has nothing to do with the body or anything physical. Otherwise kakashi would be dead due to that explosion he used kamui on. What is Supes top speed he uses on earth may change the battle? I don't know how to calc that crap. More like I won't.

[Cosesu]

so has anyone said or figured out how fast supes can go on earth-like gravity.

[Nyruss]

So what you're saying is, you have no proof.

The top speed Superman uses on Earth isn't relevant. He'll use all of his speed as necessary.

[Devil's Lawyer]

So what you're saying is, you have no proof.

The top speed Superman uses on Earth isn't relevant. He'll use all of his speed as necessary.

Why do you act like that you don't wanna go rounds with me. I am trying to keep it civil but you wanna get verbably B slapped.

I gave you my proof. It is obvious Supes earth speed is out of range of Kakashi otherwise you wouldn't be acting like this. Now has Supes ever resited a power similiar to Kakashi? You are breaking the rules you know acting like that. They must really don't care the mods.

[Realninja 2.0]

Supes top speed on earth and what he uses is Supersonic by my guess. Dudemeister you are so petty. Act serious once in awhile.

[Nyruss]

Why do you act like that you don't wanna go rounds with me.

Probably because I don't.

I gave you my proof.

You gave a baseless assumption.

It is obvious Supes earth speed is out of range of Kakashi otherwise you wouldn't be acting like this.

You obviously don't know me very well.

Now has Supes ever resited a power similiar to Kakashi?

Has Kakashi ever affected something with Superman's durability?

You are breaking the rules you know acting like that.

Acting like what?

[Devil's Lawyer]

The answer to both yours and my question is a no. In the b.g rules it says character powers are transferable into different universes so that means Kakashi Kamui counts. So the question now is what does Supes have to counter?

[Nyruss]

Durability that Kakashi can't bypass with Kamui. To say nothing of vastly superior speed.

[cnorwood]

supes goes past mach 7 in earth, kakashi could barely kamui sasukes supersonic susanoo arrow

[Devil's Lawyer]

True but I have an ace both of you forgot genjutsu. Now all you have left to argue is whether or not Supes can tank a Kamui. You don't really have no proof but I am sure you will argue it anyways. I don't care off to play fallout.

[cnorwood]

supes deals with much higher midfurking then lawl genjutsu

[Nyruss]

When you can prove that Kamui is strong enough to bypass Superman's durability, then it will kill him if Superman decided to stand there any let Kakashi use it on him instead of just killing him before he can process the thought of how much you're wanking him.

Kakashi will have a hard time using genjutsu when he has no head.

[cnorwood]

why do people think that genjutsu is the ace in the hole for naruto characters, kakashi is still gonna die when its done

[Nyruss]

Genjutsu can warp reality. True story.

[cnorwood]

Genjutsu can warp reality. True story.
lol well the martian manhunter makes genjutsu look like a video game, an atari in fact

[Realninja 2.0]

I get what he is talking about. Genjutsu would easily buy more than enough time for Kamui. Kamui rips dimensions durability doesn't matter. Unless you are saying it doesn't rip dimensions? If so bring the proof. Also on a side note Supes doesn't know how to come out of genjutsu.

lol well the martian manhunter makes genjutsu look like a video game, an atari in fact

Lets not do that match up he would get Kamui with no resisting arguement.

[Nyruss]

You say Kamui rips dimensions, you prove it.

Genjutsu is not infinite, even in the unlikely event that Superman allowed Kakashi to live long enough to use it, he just needs to wait it out. Since there's nothing Kakashi can do to hurt him.

And no, Kakashi could not beat MMH.

[cnorwood]

I get what he is talking about. Genjutsu would easily buy more than enough time for Kamui. Kamui rips dimensions durability doesn't matter. Unless you are saying it doesn't rip dimensions? If so bring the proof. Also on a side note Supes doesn't know how to come out of genjutsu.



Lets not do that match up he would get Kamui with no resisting arguement.
MMH is practically superman level with mass telekenisis, and shapeshifting. nothing kakshi could do would touch MMH. kakashi does a kamui MMH goes intangible and then rips kakahi in half GG

[Akatsuki X]

I saw this thread and literally burst out laughing.

Superman stomps his foot and destroys whatever planet their stationed on.
Kakashi, being unable to survive in space, dies.
While Superman flies away laughing.

Let's see Kumai save him now.

[Nyruss]

MMH is a telepath, he mindrapes Kakashi from here to next Teusday.

[gama-sennin]

25 posts? Superman against Kakashi?

lololololol....

Superman wins before Kakashi can activate his MS...

Lock please...

[Devil's Lawyer]

I won't be proving it but this is the hyperbolic chamber it hasn't received damage from planet busting strength ever. Anyways it only lasted long because it was me who was debating it. You guys are kinda bias towards Supes.

[zebrakiller]

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hold on, doesnt kamui just warp the target to another dimension or summat? in which case if superman just stood there to tank it, he'd get phased no?

[Devil's Lawyer]

That is what a Kamui is. Supes would tank it only his head would be gone to another dimension. If its not a dimensional jutsu then what is it? Genjutsu may be weak but it still works. Regardless of how they downplay it.

[zebrakiller]

because i mean if kamui isnt actually destroying him, just teleporting whatever it hits to another plane as it were, how could supes tank it?

[Pain_man_who_became_god]

unless kakashi breaks supermans back like doomsday, supermans unkillable. unless he can kryptonite lightning blade...

[Devil's Lawyer]

He can't tank it. He has no such ability. Just alot of downplaying by them. Unless there is proof regular supes can rip dimensions.

Also on a side note ftl is banned if you guys are thinking that would end the fight. The op stated unles you can prove he used it in a fight it can't be used.

[Pain_man_who_became_god]

superman wins. the man freakin breathes in space. he goes up to space and lasers kakashi with his eyes. this is coming from a huge kakashi fan too. supermans the ultimate invincible hero. in terms of defeat its kryptonite or nothin

[zebrakiller]

im not arguing kakashi wins or even has a chance here. im just thinking supes couldnt just tank kamui without it affecting hi.

[Devil's Lawyer]

I am not a big Naruto fan just like a good debate. Kamui bypasses all that just teleporting the head from torso. Not being ripped teleported.

Just the thought of Supes getting defeated like that is a big no no for his fans.

[GenoFury666]

superman is way over rated. Supes is also vulnerable to magic,a red sun,and can't see through lead.

Using a Genjutsu like the 1 Itachi tortured kakashi with. would be a good place to start

[Nyruss]

There is nothing to suggest Kamui can bypass Superman's durability.

No, it doesn't send its target into another dimension. It sends the target elsewhere in the same dimension.

No, genjutsu won't work on Superman.

Superman doesn't need to be faster than light to kill Kakashi. He doesn't even need to be relativistic or even massively hypersonic. Regular hypersonic would do the trick. Banning faster than light in no way compromises his ability to win.

We're biased towards Supes because, crazy thing, it's not possible for Kakashi to win. You already know that, obviously and are only claiming otherwise because you're RealNinja and you're only claiming Superman can't win because you know it will make people angry.

[cnorwood]

bais twards supes??? no you guys are just wanking naruto too much. kamui cant do anything to supes because he will just phase through it. and then shoot a SUN IGNITING lazer at kakashi. there is nothing kakashi could do to win, even if he had kryptonite in 1 hand and a lightning blade in another, he still isnt strong enough to injure supes

[cnorwood]

lol you tried to post this in the obd, lolol..........tard

[Bacon]

You say Kamui rips dimensions, you prove it.

Genjutsu is not infinite, even in the unlikely event that Superman allowed Kakashi to live long enough to use it, he just needs to wait it out. Since there's nothing Kakashi can do to hurt him.

And no, Kakashi could not beat MMH.

By focusing his Mangekyō Sharingan on a particular point, Kakashi can force that point to collapse in on itself, ultimately sending everything in the vicinity to another dimension

If superman is caught by kunai, he's toast dude.

[cnorwood]

If superman is caught by kunai, he's toast dude.
except hell phase right through it just like madara

[Bacon]

except hell phase right through it just like madara
Kumai exerts a intangible amount of force, it will affect superman.

It doesn't matter if he can survive being thrown into the sun or blow up a universe if the attack doesn't exert a measurable force on him. Kumai forcibly sends a vital organ into an another dimension and kills him.

[Devil's Lawyer]

There is nothing to suggest Kamui can bypass Superman's durability.

No, it doesn't send its target into another dimension. It sends the target elsewhere in the same dimension.

No, genjutsu won't work on Superman.

Superman doesn't need to be faster than light to kill Kakashi. He doesn't even need to be relativistic or even massively hypersonic. Regular hypersonic would do the trick. Banning faster than light in no way compromises his ability to win.

We're biased towards Supes because, crazy thing, it's not possible for Kakashi to win. You already know that, obviously and are only claiming otherwise because you're RealNinja and you're only claiming Superman can't win because you know it will make people angry.

Please man now you are going crazy and hitting your computer. Calling me realninja just because you are wrong. Everthing you just said is without a shred off proof. You always claim proof for me and everybody else but you don't give any. All you do is flame and make baseless statements.

Two thing genjutsu would work and Kamui would work. You have no proof just more flamming sounds like a troll to me.

[Nyruss]

Kumai exerts a intangible amount of force, it will affect supermanThe question isn't whether it could affect him, it's whether it's strong enough to do anything. Of which I have seen no proof.

Also, though rarely shown, Superman does have increased healing abilities. Damage he takes will heal almost instantly unless something is affecting his powers.

[TheBlackChidori]

Superman was able to resist Braniac's strongest brain wave attack that managed to hypnotize the entirety of the earth's population at once.

A ninja's illusion isn't going to phase Superman at once, when his Kryptonian Brain is completely wired differently then the humans. Even on show's like Smallville, Clark is immune to basically every single illusion that captures Smallville.

Kamui might be able to partially warp reality or rip dimensions, but Superman was able to escape from The Phantom Zone, a dimension so powerful with "prison" enchantments that many, many planet busters and people of superhuman intelligence can't even escape. In the off chance it lands on Superman, "Attack Resisted".

Seriously. You're comparing an earthworm to a lion right now, and its not even entertaining.

[Nyruss]

By focusing his Mangekyō Sharingan on a particular point, Kakashi can force that point to collapse in on itself, ultimately sending everything in the vicinity to another dimension

That's not proof.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Superman was able to resist Braniac's strongest brain wave attack that managed to hypnotize the entirety of the earth's population at once.

A ninja's illusion isn't going to phase Superman at once, when his Kryptonian Brain is completely wired differently then the humans. Even on show's like Smallville, Clark is immune to basically every single illusion that captures Smallville.

Kamui might be able to partially warp reality or rip dimensions, but Superman was able to escape from The Phantom Zone, a dimension so powerful with "prison" enchantments that many, many planet busters and people of superhuman intelligence can't even escape. In the off chance it lands on Superman, "Attack Resisted".

Seriously. You're comparing an earthworm to a lion right now, and its not even entertaining.

See this is an arguement. Superman has been affected by illussions on numerous occassions. Only by magic casters. In the bg aren't all enrgies equal when doing a battle like this. Most ninja powers in most universes comes under the category of magic.

Kamui is an controlled force and Superman is always hitting mach speed or running out of the phantom zone. By use of a machine or help.

Why are you getting mad none of this is real. I am just giving an debatable arguement.

[Bacon]

TBC, these arguements are all based on our independent judgement,but I have to say that your claim is rather dull and inaccurate.

Years later, in Superman II, a nuclear explosion from a bomb Superman was forced to fling from Earth into space inadvertently shatters the prison and releases the prisoners. Now free, General Zod and his cohorts travel to Earth, wreaking havoc with the powers granted to them by Earth's yellow sun.A nuclear explosion is rather small when compared to a planet busting being. Furthermore,the phantom zone is not a tangible place that can be busted with sheer force. The kumai exerts an incalculable force that will affect superman until someone can prove that he can tank it.

[Nyruss]

Magic and jutsus are not the same thing unless the thread creator specifies it.

You're not "giving a debatable arguement" you're trolling, claiming Kakashi can win despite the fact that it's blatantly obvious he can't.

The kumai exerts an incalculable that will affect superman until someone can prove that he can tank it.

Yeah...there's nothing to support this claim in any way.

[Devil's Lawyer]

By b.g default it is though.

[Nyruss]

No, it isn't. Not unless the thread creator specifies it.

[Bacon]

Magic and jutsus are not the same thing unless the thread creator specifies it.

You're not "giving a debatable arguement" you're trolling, claiming Kakashi can win despite the fact that it's blatantly obvious he can't.



Yeah...there's nothing to support this claim in any way.
There's nothing to support the claim that Superman's durability is greater than the dimension.

[Nyruss]

There's nothing to support the claim that Superman's durability is greater than the dimension.

That's fine, because Kamui isn't a dimension buster.

[Bacon]

That's fine, because Kamui isn't a dimension buster.
Nope,but it certainly rips it apart in a certain area.

[Nyruss]

You can, of course, support this claim with something other than a quote from Naruto wikia.

[Bacon]

You can, of course, support this claim with something other than a quote from Naruto wikia.
What else is there to support?

His kumai severed Diedara's arms(or one, I can't remember) to another location.

His kumai sucked up the explosion from Deidara's fake suicide clay clone.

His kumai sucked up susano arrows.

Anymore more proof?

[Nyruss]

What else is there to support?

Everything.

His kumai severed Diedara's arms(or one, I can't remember) to another location.

Teleportation and dimension ripping aren't the same thing.

His kumai sucked up the explosion from Deidara's fake suicide clay clone.

See previous.

His kumai sucked up susano arrows.


See previous.

Anymore more proof?

Not that you have any, but if you continue if you like.

[kejon16]

His kumai sucked up a nail. >.>

[Nyruss]

His kumai sucked up a nail. >.>


See previous.

[Nyruss]

I don't even know why this is being debated. Kakashi could never survive long enough to even consider using Kamui on Supes.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Prime is the only one who could stop Kakashi in this situation. Forget the equal energy thing. The point being Supes can't tank a Kamui. Dudemeister all that means is head is teleported. This is point blank fight. Nothing to throw just his powers vs Kamui. Ftl is the only arguement that would neutralize this arguement but it was banned.

[Nyruss]

Prime is the only one who could stop Kakashi in this situation.

The only Superman I can think of who could arguably fail to kill Kakashi while faster than light speed is restricted is the original faster than a speeding bullet Superman. Any other Supes rapes the crap out of Kakashi.


The point being Supes can't tank a Kamui.
Got any proof?

[Bacon]

Everything.



Teleportation and dimension ripping aren't the same thing.



See previous.




See previous.



Not that you have any, but if you continue if you like.

Dudemiester, why don't you read chapter 278, page 8?kakashi said that he sent an explosion into another dimension.In chapter 276, he clearly sent deidara's arm somewhere else and severed it completely.

No amount of durability will save anyone who gets caught in the kumai.

Oh, and I love the semantics.

Teleportation and dimension ripping aren't the same thing.Like it or not, his arm was gone. If superman is caught, he will lose something.

[cnorwood]

superman can phase through things just like madara, kamui isnt doing ;);););). besides supes goes relatavistic speed and chops kakashis head off, before he preoesses the thought of a kamui

[Nyruss]

Dudemiester, why don't you read chapter 278, page 8?kakashi said that he sent an explosion into another dimension.

Now if you had done this earlier instead of just wanking, the whole thing could have been resolved a lot quicker.

Superman speedblitzes before Kakashi can consider the possibility of using Kamui which could injure Supes in the unlikely event that Kakashi survived long enough to use it.

[Devil's Lawyer]

superman can phase through things just like madara, kamui isnt doing ;);););). besides supes goes relatavistic speed and chops kakashis head off, before he preoesses the thought of a kamui

What Superman doesnt have the power to phase through Kamui. If so you gotta prove that. Until then Supes head is gone.

[TheBlackChidori]

TBC, these arguements are all based on our independent judgement,but I have to say that your claim is rather dull and inaccurate.

A nuclear explosion is rather small when compared to a planet busting being. Furthermore,the phantom zone is not a tangible place that can be busted with sheer force. The kumai exerts an incalculable force that will affect superman until someone can prove that he can tank it.

Wrong. The bomb busted open the gateway, something that can only be touched from the outside and in our dimension. There is no way out from the inside. Why do you think it held Zod for so damn long? No one has ever escaped except from outside interference.

Superman escaped.

[Nyruss]

You mean Kakashi's head is gone because he doesn't have the ability to react to a guy that can move at the speed of light(faster than light is restricted).

[Bacon]

Now if you had done this earlier instead of just wanking, the whole thing could have been resolved a lot quicker.

Superman speedblitzes before Kakashi can consider the possibility of using Kamui which could injure Supes in the unlikely event that Kakashi survived long enough to use it.
Ya, I never wanked. I was just proving that the dimension which houses Superman is stronger than he is. xD

Meh, no comment on the speed thing. Kakashi isn't going to survive a man who can move faster than the speed of sound. xD

[cnorwood]

What Superman doesnt have the power to phase through Kamui. If so you gotta prove that. Until then Supes head is gone.
supes can phase through things like madara, he did it to doomsdays punch. kamui wont work on madara so it wont work on supes

[Bacon]

Wrong. The bomb busted open the gateway, something that can only be touched from the outside and in our dimension. There is no way out from the inside. Why do you think it held Zod for so damn long? No one has ever escaped except from outside interference.

Superman escaped.

Source or reference for this claim?

[Devil's Lawyer]

No prep only kakashi also thats an physical attack. Thats the only reason I am even arguing this. This fight was purposely stacked in Kakashi favor. FtL is banned and Kakashi has prep time. Also ms is already activated. That phase if he can phase has no relation to teleportation or dimension power like Kamui.

[cnorwood]

No prep only kakashi also thats an physical attack. Thats the only reason I am even arguing this. This fight was purposely stacked in Kakashi favor. FtL is banned and Kakashi has prep time. Also ms is already activated.
kakashi with his sharingan would be blitzed by someone going mach 2, what would he do against someone going mach 1000

[Devil's Lawyer]

Prep time read it. That plenty of time for Kakshi to make plans. This fight is crazy stacked. Whats funny is if this were anybody else Kamui would be final.

[cnorwood]

Prep time read it. That plenty of time for Kakshi to make plans. This fight is crazy stacked. Whats funny is if this were anybody else Kamui would be final.
what would prep time do? he has nothing to hold back supes and he wont be able to react before supes rips his head off

[TheBlackChidori]

Source or reference for this claim?

Silver Age. Try me.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Hmm you guys call it a crappy battle but still posting. My point proven already. Anyways once again I go with the genjutsu delay.

[The 1st Hokage]

Wait, Kakashi can activate Kamui at FTL speeds now?

[Devil's Lawyer]

Ftl is banned unless proven it was used in battle before. You think this crap would be still going otherwise. On that note Kamui is Kakashi only real weapon and Narutoverse only weapon that puts them in a battle like this.

[The 1st Hokage]

So dodging Doomsday's punch so fast he became intangible doesn't count?

[Noctis Arashi]

LOL.

Kakashi wank much?

Supes teabags kakashi into the core of the earth casually before the thought of how screwed he is comes into mind.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Not an arguement but who cares.

[Akatsuki X]

This needs to be locked very soon.

[cnorwood]

supes doesnt go ftl he just goes 299 792 458 m/s and blitzes kakashi before he processes a thought

[cnorwood]

So dodging Doomsday's punch so fast he became intangible doesn't count?
he didnt dodge it he phased through it, like how madara phases through things, kamui cant hurt madara so it cant hurt supes

[Nyruss]

This fight was purposely stacked in Kakashi favor.


No it isn't. RealNinja tried to stack it in Kakashi's favor but he neglected to take into account the fact that Superman is still faster than Kakashi could ever possibly be. Because he's an idiot.


Prep time read it. That plenty of time for Kakshi to make plans. This fight is crazy stacked. Whats funny is if this were anybody else Kamui would be final.

FtL is banned and Kakashi has prep timeAll the prep in the world won't prevent Superman from speedblitzing. It may come as shock to you but banning faster than light does not prevent Superman from exceeding the speed of a particularly slow snail.

Also ms is already activatedIrrelevant.

Anyways once again I go with the genjutsu delay.


Kakashi dies before he can even consider the possibility to use genjutsu.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Those numbers comes from where? Anyways forget that lock this to much bs will come from this thread if it stays open.

[Nyruss]

This needs to be locked very soon.
It should've been locked five pages ago.

[Akatsuki X]

It shouldn't have been made in the first place.

[Realninja 2.0]

Lock it....The fanboys have spoken

[Nyruss]

Anyone with a brain could see that Kakashi couldn't beat Superman. RealNinja knows it too, but he won't admit it because he's a troll who disagrees because he knows it makes people mad and that amuses him.

[TheBlackChidori]

Realninja, one more of these "reply" topics to something I lock, and I'm going to permanently ban you from this section. I was nice enough to give you another shot, and you're just being immature about it. Grow up.

And this has nothing to do with fanboys or anything. This is on the absurdity level that making a Pain Vs. Tonton topic would be.