[Unofficial]Extra Council Folks.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

I plan to have these people, whom had never received a vote, fill out in said roles-

Influencers
Susano'o

Judges
KG
Flash

Who agrees and who disagrees?

[Sephiroth]

Hmm....Yes

[Anbu Leader]

I don't get the purpose of this Thread. Can some one please explain?

[Danielle]

agreed.

[Noctis Arashi]

What does an influencer do? I demand judgement!

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

The folks I listed received no or not enough votes to become an Official Judge or Influencer in the Council. However, I say that they are fit for the task, and that they should be added. Agree with me?

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

What does an influencer do? I demand judgement!

Influencers can make rules and can broadcast it publicly.

[Devroux]

I disagree with Susano'o as an influencer. No offense to him...

[Anbu Leader]

Oh, Yes.

[Anbu Leader]

And Yes I agree with Dev, I don't think Susanoo' should not be a influencer. (No offence to him neither)

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

And why?

[Devroux]

And why?
He knows the rules and stuff fine and he's an okay fighter but I just believe he'd be biased. And that stems mostly from the way he's treated Hally in the past and a few other cases that I won't take the time to link.

[Anbu Leader]

In my opinion I don't see Susanoo' influencing anyone. He's a darn good Role Player but not an influencer.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

He knows the rules and stuff fine and he's an okay fighter but I just believe he'd be biased. And that stems mostly from the way he's treated Hally in the past and a few other cases that I won't take the time to link.

He's not biased enough to affect the Council. There's also the fact that the Influencer's role was to counter biasism.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

In my opinion I don't see Susanoo' influencing anyone. He's a darn good Role Player but not an influencer.

He actually influenced a string of events in the Third Generation and some of the Second.

[Noctis Arashi]

Indeed indeed. I'll do it. BTW I'm not biassed. Its mere roleplay.

[Anbu Leader]

He actually influenced a string of events in the Third Generation and some of the Second.

Then in that case, I'd Agree. :D

[Devroux]

He's not biased enough to affect the Council. There's also the fact that the Influencer's role was to counter biasism.
But if the point of the Influencers is to counter biasism then why let someone in that is bias? I think most of the candidates that did make it with enough votes would be good enough as long as there are an odd number of them. And if you do need someone else I'm sure there is someone that is better suited for the role. And if not, I'd gladly agree to letting him be in the council with confidence that it would relieve him of most things biased. But I also worry that if he is let in that he would use the power he gets against other people.

[kejon16]

I disagree about Flash.

[Noctis Arashi]

But if the point of the Influencers is to counter biasism then why let someone in that is bias? I think most of the candidates that did make it with enough votes would be good enough as long as there are an odd number of them. And if you do need someone else I'm sure there is someone that is better suited for the role. And if not, I'd gladly agree to letting him be in the council with confidence that it would relieve him of most things biased. But I also worry that if he is let in that he would use the power he gets against other people.
:|

Better suited? Who, name someone more qualified please.

I don't power abuse. Thank you.

[Devroux]

Indeed indeed. I'll do it. BTW I'm not biassed. Its mere roleplay.
You get to sit and watch the conversation unless you have an argument that will actually sway my opinion that you are biased. We are discussing letting you in I don't think it fair that you can decide.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

But if the point of the Influencers is to counter biasism then why let someone in that is bias? I think most of the candidates that did make it with enough votes would be good enough as long as there are an odd number of them. And if you do need someone else I'm sure there is someone that is better suited for the role. And if not, I'd gladly agree to letting him be in the council with confidence that it would relieve him of most things biased. But I also worry that if he is let in that he would use the power he gets against other people.

It's to counter the chance of biasism affecting the Council.

Actually, I'd also suggest Crisis as a Judge. Or a potential candidate at least.

[Noctis Arashi]

You get to sit and watch the conversation unless you have an argument that will actually sway my opinion that you are biased. We are discussing letting you in I don't think it fair that you can decide.
As myself being the candidate, and your arguments being invalid.....I dunno.

[Anbu Leader]

Pride, am I eligible?

[Noctis Arashi]

It's to counter the chance of biasism affecting the Council.

Actually, I'd also suggest Crisis as a Judge. Or a potential candidate at least.I would have to disagree.... as knowledgeable and the potential that he has. He's simply to new, and requires more experience in my opinion. But he has the potential to eventually for sure.

[Crisis]

I agree with Susanoo. And, I'm not good withnto much responsibilty. Thank you though.

[Devroux]

I disagree about Flash.
I agree with Kejon on Flash. He doesn't show up often enough to be a candidate. If he did then I would definately agree.
:|

Better suited? Who, name someone more qualified please.

I don't power abuse. Thank you.
Out of all BFV... I'd have to go through the people that show up. There aren't many better suited than you but there are some I guarantee it.

And I have no proof to say that you would. But that's my opinion which again stems from how you have treated a few people in the past.
It's to counter the chance of biasism affecting the Council.

Actually, I'd also suggest Crisis as a Judge. Or a potential candidate at least.
That makes no sense. If you let someone biased in then it would affect the council...

I would not. I like Crisis mainly because he respects me. But he hasn't been here long enough to deserve a position like that. I do know that he knows the rules pretty well though. But in this case I believe that experience trumps.

[kejon16]

I could judge.......... <.<

[Yori]

Agreed, but let me state the reason why I wasen't nominated for a judge because people believe the DE exist, which they aren't. =/

[Sephiroth]

Agreed, but let me state the reason why I wasen't nominated for a judge because people believe the DE exist, which they aren't. =/

why be a judge when your going to be an influencer >.>

[Danielle]

Agreed, but let me state the reason why I wasen't nominated for a judge because people believe the DE exist, which they aren't. =/
Not my reason, Yori.

[Yori]

why be a judge when your going to be an influencer >.>

Ask that to other influences who are judges

[Devroux]

Ask that to other influences who are judges
It's already been decided that they can't do both.

[Yori]

I want to see the list of both

[Crisis]

So, who so far have been nomintated into the council?

[Bacon]

I agree as long as Susano stops being a troll.

[Hally]

Yea I say give susanno a chance and see what happens. Hes got some good fvsing skills and could be a big help. As for KG being part of the council that is good he knows alot about fv and could be a big help too. Flash is not that active but the times he is he has some good ideas.

[Seven]

Did the voting end and was the actual council chosen?

[Hally]

I have no idea ask vat

[Seven]

I need to know because I had the second most votes for judge.

[Bacon]

I would kinda like to know too.

[Hally]

Yea me too

[Yori]

Don't agree with KG. He flames a lot.

Told me I was a punk.
I'm pretending to be someone I'm not on the forum
This forum is all I got.

No, do not agree on that

[Devroux]

I disagree with all of them. Reasons for Susano'o and Flash are stated already from me. And KG is here all that often. He's been here a bit lately but still...

[Bacon]

Flash is not here enough to do anything, so it's inconsequential.

Kg can always be booted out once he flames.

Sasano pisses me off,but it's up to you all. As long as none of them troll, I am kool with them having a chance.

[Yori]

Replace KG with Dev

Replace Flash with Rotate

I'm cool with that

[Bacon]

Dev would be a good candidate,but I'm just one person.

Rotate is in the same boat as Flash. Crisis would be good.

Indeed.

[Yori]

Have no problem with Crisis I was considering him

[Bacon]

Crisis started this all up.

[Noctis Arashi]

I stated the counsel system previous to the joining of crisis and all the other new kids. But no one took much notice.

Bacon, I don't know why I piss you off, when most of what I do is mere role play.


But KG flames alot, and isn't all that helpful. I would replace him with Rotate.

And Flash isn't active at all, and his judgement skills can be askew at times. I would replace him with someone like Crisis or Zenon.

[Bacon]

I stated the counsel system previous to the joining of crisis and all the other new kids. But no one took much notice.

Bacon, I don't know why I piss you off, when most of what I do is mere role play.


But KG flames alot, and isn't all that helpful. I would replace him with Rotate.

And Flash isn't active at all, and his judgement skills can be askew at times. I would replace him with someone like Crisis or Zenon.
Roleplaying has nothing to do with it. You are a jack ass to others sometimes.

[Devroux]

Roleplaying has nothing to do with it. You are a jack ass to others sometimes.
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78280

People agree. Sorry Susano'o. I found it and brought it forth.

[Bacon]

But everyone has a right to an opinion. And based on her Naruto FV, *has fought her* She isn't looking too promising. Although, who knows, she might be the next vat. :|

>.> ...

[Anbu Leader]

We don't pass through our minds that even dough people like KG flame a lot they can also have within them a tremendous Leadership skills. I'm not talking about KG personally but people in that same matter..

Yes, most people that are HATED in this Free Verse section can have the best Leadership Skills or Knowledge about Bleach Free Verse in the Forum. Witch can be very helpful on this Future Council. So I recommend we don't place this on a popularity level because I'll win. xD j/k

I suggest that, Bacon, Yori, and anyone else should put their own feelings aside and think about the Life of this Free Verse.

-Anbu :D

[Noctis Arashi]

>.> ...
Only to trouble. Because she's evil and the world is too oblivious to notice.

[Yori]

We don't pass through our minds that even dough people like KG flame a lot they can also have within them a tremendous Leadership skills. I'm not talking about KG personally but people in that same matter..

Yes, most people that are HATED in this Free Verse section can have the best Leadership Skills or Knowledge about Bleach Free Verse in the Forum. Witch can be very helpful on this Future Council. So I recommend we don't place this on a popularity level because I'll win. xD j/k

I suggest that, Bacon, Yori, and anyone else should put their own feelings aside and think about the Life of this Free Verse.

-Anbu :D

Sorry but going around flaming for no reason shows that you have a bad Demeanor and from the outside looking in no one wants to follow you or look up to. We are thinking about the life of FV that's why we are reviewing over people who shows better conduct in this FV that got overlooked.

[Seven]

I thought up an actual BFV name.

Montei Kami
Meaning Disciple of a God

[Hally]

Hmm yea Dev would be a good person as well. But so would KG. You do not know what hes actually like alot of ppl dont. They dont give ppl like KG and Dev enough credit in this verse.

[Hally]

Susanoo your right even Zenon would make a good candidate

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

I agree with Kejon on Flash. He doesn't show up often enough to be a candidate. If he did then I would definately agree.

[Facepalm] He's in The Battle Grounds Council, a Mod in the Battle Grounds, a Mod in Off-Topic, and he has a social life. With all that responsibility, would you be spending all your time in BFV? If he became apart of the Council, I promise he would appear when he is needed.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

[Facepalm] He's in The Battle Grounds Council, a Mod in the Battle Grounds, a Mod in Off-Topic, and he has a social life. With all that responsibility, would you be spending all your time in BFV? If he became apart of the Council, I promise he would appear when he is needed.

Exactly.

[Sephiroth]

Can we go ahead and know who is in the council

[Devroux]

[Facepalm] He's in The Battle Grounds Council, a Mod in the Battle Grounds, a Mod in Off-Topic, and he has a social life. With all that responsibility, would you be spending all your time in BFV? If he became apart of the Council, I promise he would appear when he is needed.
No need for a facepalm. I did not know this. But even then he's got a lot to do. Why make him worry about more?

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Exactly.
Flash and Vatanui >>>>>>>>>>>>> All of BFV and most of the Forum in Debating.

[Sephiroth]

Flash and Vatanui >>>>>>>>>>>>> All of BFV and most of the Forum in Debating.

*Doesnt Agree*

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Flash and Vatanui >>>>>>>>>>>>> All of BFV and most of the Forum in Debating.

What kind of debate?

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

*Doesnt Agree*
Flash is a Moderator in The Battle Grounds, and on The Battle Ground's Council, like I said before. He has rarely ever lost a fight in Debating, and has never lost a fight in BFV.

Vatanui is widely know as one of the smartest kids on the Forum. He is 13, and he has beaten many of the older members of the forum in Debating, and some of them twice as old as him. He is without doubt, one of the best debaters on the forum.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

What kind of debate?
Does it matter? :lol:

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Does it matter? :lol:
Yes. :lol:

Flash is a Moderator in The Battle Grounds, and on The Battle Ground's Council, like I said before. He has rarely ever lost a fight in Debating, and has never lost a fight in BFV.

Vatanui is widely know as one of the smartest kids on the Forum. He is 13, and he has beaten many of the older members of the forum in Debating, and some of them twice as old as him. He is without doubt, one of the best debaters on the forum.

I'm a Moderator for BG too.

[Sephiroth]

Flash is a Moderator in The Battle Grounds, and on The Battle Ground's Council, like I said before. He has rarely ever lost a fight in Debating, and has never lost a fight in BFV.

Vatanui is widely know as one of the smartest kids on the Forum. He is 13, and he has beaten many of the older members of the forum in Debating, and some of them twice as old as him. He is without doubt, one of the best debaters on the forum.

I can most likely debate with the likes of them. Just because they can debate over what character is better etc. doesnt mean they are a great debater. If its something that is important to me etc. I can debate pretty well, But there isnt a drive to debate bout what character is better.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Yes. :lol:



I'm a Moderator for BG too.
.......Lies.......
Well, BFV debating, and just a fighting debate.

I did not know that.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

I can most likely debate with the likes of them. Just because they can debate over what character is better etc. doesnt mean they are a great debater. If its something that is important to me etc. I can debate pretty well, But there isnt a drive to debate bout what character is better.
You talk as if they're dirt, instead of human beings. This is why I have started to hate you. You talk as if you are the greatest person at everything. You talk to other human beings, as if they aren't at your level of intelligence. And yet, 99% of the time, they are smarter than you will ever hope to be, because you won't ever except the fact that someone is better than you. When did I ever say it like that? Have you ever actually looked at Vatanui's and Flash's post in the BG? They don't just state one little fact, like the most of the BG. They use paragraphs of information, stating every little detail, and every possible counter-attack. Leaving the person they are debating with, have no where to go to.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Guys, don't argue.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Guys, don't argue.
Sorry, Vatanui.

(I'm gonna start calling you by your full name, because it sounds cooler than just Vat)

[Sephiroth]

You talk as if they're dirt, instead of human beings. This is why I have started to hate you. You talk as if you are the greatest person at everything. You talk to other human beings, as if they aren't at your level of intelligence. And yet, 99% of the time, they are smarter than you will ever hope to be, because you won't ever except the fact that someone is better than you. When did I ever say it like that? Have you ever actually looked at Vatanui's and Flash's post in the BG? They don't just state one little fact, like the most of the BG. They use paragraphs of information, stating every little detail, and every possible counter-attack. Leaving the person they are debating with, have no where to go to.

Where did I talk like they was dirt?? I didn't, and you havent notice i havent compared anyone to me. Im not the greatest and never will be and i honestly dont think i am. So i really dont know where you got that from.I hardly ever do. I know there are smarter people on this forum. And im in college and I know that. TDZ is only 15 and he is way smarter than me and so is vat. I know people are better than me thats why i hardly talk anymore if i voice my oppinion ill just get jumped on just like here. You said they are way better at debating than anyone in BFV and i disagree with that, There are some that can probably debate with them. Just like i said it kind of depends on the debats. Just because someone can debate a character is better than this one bc of the little things and etc doesnt mean that they can debate on war, econ issues, etc. I have the out most respect for the people in the BG and their debating schools. But saying those two are better than everyone in BFV and most of the forums.Is kind of ludicrous in my opinion

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

I need to change my name. >.>

Curse you Rice, and your hatred of fine teas and cookies! (Whispers it)

[Sephiroth]

I need to change my name. >.>

Curse you Rice, and your hatred of fine teas and cookies! (Whispers it)
Will they not let you change it?? I wonder why

[Seven]

So can I get the results of the vote!?!?!

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Uh Seph, not to break your point and anything, but you do realize that there is a Debate Section where they debate economics and stuff, eh?

[Sephiroth]

Uh Seph, not to break your point and anything, but you do realize that there is a Debate Section where they debate economics and stuff, eh?

Mostly I have seen lately is is there a god and all. And no i did not know that at all honestly.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Mostly I have seen lately is is there a god and all. And no i did not know that at all honestly.

Kinda ironic, seeing as that your join date was in May 2009. Also, no, it debates on a large number of points. Planet Zarmina, Islamic extremists, Park 51, etc.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

So can I get the results of the vote!?!?!

You're an official Judge.

[Sephiroth]

congrads 7

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Where did I talk like they was dirt?? I didn't, and you havent notice i havent compared anyone to me. Im not the greatest and never will be and i honestly dont think i am. So i really dont know where you got that from.I hardly ever do. I know there are smarter people on this forum. And im in college and I know that. TDZ is only 15 and he is way smarter than me and so is vat. I know people are better than me thats why i hardly talk anymore if i voice my oppinion ill just get jumped on just like here. You said they are way better at debating than anyone in BFV and i disagree with that, There are some that can probably debate with them. Just like i said it kind of depends on the debats. Just because someone can debate a character is better than this one bc of the little things and etc doesnt mean that they can debate on war, econ issues, etc. I have the out most respect for the people in the BG and their debating schools. But saying those two are better than everyone in BFV and most of the forums.Is kind of ludicrous in my opinion
Really? You said, and I quote; 'I can debate with the likes of them'. In that statement, you addressed them as people who are below you. And you are always talking about how you cause so much power if such little of effort, you're constantly making yourself seem more powerful than everyone else. If you know that people are smarter than you, then why try to seem like you are smarter than them, or as smart as them? You just said Vatanui was smarter than you, so why would you address him like that? It makes you look like you believe he is inferior, compared to you. You just ignored half of what I just said. They make it so that they give the person they're facing, have nothing to go to when debating against them. Half the people in BFV are probably the worst debaters on the forum. Because they have good punctuation. So, it makes it easy to be better than them. And don't twist what I just said and make it seem like I believe that I am better than them, because I am not. I am not a good debater, I'm just good at analyzing things.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

I need to change my name. >.>

Curse you Rice, and your hatred of fine teas and cookies! (Whispers it)
Welcome to the club. :roll:

I've asked SRyhse about 4 times. Given every possible reason to want a name changed, or shortened, but he always says; 'nah'. :|

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Really? You said, and I quote; 'I can debate with the likes of them'. In that statement, you addressed them as people who are below you. And you are always talking about how you cause so much power if such little of effort, you're constantly making yourself seem more powerful than everyone else. If you know that people are smarter than you, then why try to seem like you are smarter than them, or as smart as them? You just said Vatanui was smarter than you, so why would you address him like that? It makes you look like you believe he is inferior, compared to you. You just ignored half of what I just said. They make it so that they give the person they're facing, have nothing to go to when debating against them. Half the people in BFV are probably the worst debaters on the forum. Because they have good punctuation. So, it makes it easy to be better than them. And don't twist what I just said and make it seem like I believe that I am better than them, because I am not. I am not a good debater, I'm just good at analyzing things.
Lets stop this childish game, and stop, before someone gets an Infraction.

[Sephiroth]

Really? You said, and I quote; 'I can debate with the likes of them'. In that statement, you addressed them as people who are below you. And you are always talking about how you cause so much power if such little of effort, you're constantly making yourself seem more powerful than everyone else. If you know that people are smarter than you, then why try to seem like you are smarter than them, or as smart as them? You just said Vatanui was smarter than you, so why would you address him like that? It makes you look like you believe he is inferior, compared to you. You just ignored half of what I just said. They make it so that they give the person they're facing, have nothing to go to when debating against them. Half the people in BFV are probably the worst debaters on the forum. Because they have good punctuation. So, it makes it easy to be better than them. And don't twist what I just said and make it seem like I believe that I am better than them, because I am not. I am not a good debater, I'm just good at analyzing things.

Thought this was over with?? I guess not, I said them because them is two people. Vat and Yellow,Just because i said the likes of them doesnt mean i meant they are lower. It can mean that they are higher. Like you stated they was higher than everyone in BFV. I really want to stop this before it blows up.

[Devroux]

Congrats 7 on becoming a judge! Huzzah.

[Sephiroth]

Agree lunar

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Agree lunar
[Sticks out hand]

[Sephiroth]

[Sticks out hand]

*shakes ur hand*

[Devroux]

[Sticks out hand]

*shakes ur hand*
Red Rover! Red Rover! Bring Devroux on over!

*runs through arms*

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Red Rover! Red Rover! Bring Devroux on over!

*runs through arms*
[Close lines you]
Ouch. :lol:

[Sephiroth]

lolol funny lunar. Finally i found some where to read all of one piece XD

[Yori]

Hehe the admirals are beast.

[Sephiroth]

ill catch up to u sometime

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Hehe the admirals are beast.
Zoro is BETTER THAN THEM! :ugeek:

[Yellow Flash]

Just because I don't post doesn't mean I'm inactive. I lurk here ALL the time, making sure you guys keep it clean.

Susano'o, how is my judgment askew sometimes? I was made apart of FAIL, which I left willingly, a BG mod, an Off-Topic mod, and a BG council member. I've judged debates in the BG Naruto Debating Tournament and no one seems to disagree with me. I'd just like to kno where my judgment went askew.

[Hally]

So who is part of the council anyway what are the results. I was watcing KHR again so I probably missed stuff.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

So who is part of the council anyway what are the results. I was watcing KHR again so I probably missed stuff.
All we know is that 7 is on it. And if 7 is on it, that means Vatanui is on it.

[Noctis Arashi]

Just because I don't post doesn't mean I'm inactive. I lurk here ALL the time, making sure you guys keep it clean.

Susano'o, how is my judgment askew sometimes? I was made apart of FAIL, which I left willingly, a BG mod, an Off-Topic mod, and a BG council member. I've judged debates in the BG Naruto Debating Tournament and no one seems to disagree with me. I'd just like to kno where my judgment went askew.
Your just inactive. I was referring to KG. My wording was off. I didn't sleep last night, so my words are all, gumbled.

[Hally]

Obiviously those two are. But there are judges and influencers.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

Obiviously those two are. But there are judges and influencers.
I PMed Vatanui a while ago, asking him. But he hasn't responded.

[Hally]

I see mabey hes busy.

[HeavenShocking LunarFang7]

I see mabey hes busy.
I think he got off.

[Hally]

Yea probably.