Hitsugaya VS Nnoitra

[deidara330]

Who would win?

[Rasengan SageX5]

Hitsugaya,of course. He can freeze everything within a 10-mile radius solid,so no matter how fast Nnoitra is, he is going to be turned into an Espada-cicle.

[321zigzag3]

This is very bad matchup for Nnoitora. Unless you restrict Bankai Hitsugaya that is.

[tyrell4life194]

Hitsugaya rapestomps. Not even joking dude.

[deidara330]

Well the MVBG lists Nnoitra as four places above Hitsugaya on the Bleach tier list, so if this is a stomp it Hitsugaya's favor then someone must be extremely biased against him. If it weren't for what the tier list said I wouldn't have made this thread, because I also thought Hitsugaya would've won due to tons of freezing moves, speed, and such.

[tyrell4life194]

Well the MVBG lists Nnoitra as four places above Hitsugaya on the Bleach tier list, so if this is a stomp it Hitsugaya's favor then someone must be extremely biased against him. If it weren't for what the tier list said I wouldn't have made this thread, because I also thought Hitsugaya would've won due to tons of freezing moves, speed, and such.
You're funny dude. Hitsugaya was on par with the 3rd espada, and besides Nnoitra lost to Kenpachi who was in his SHIKAI form. what makes you think Nnoitra will handle Hitsugaya in his Bankai form, let alone his Shikai form? That's just rediculous.

So tell me, how can Nnoitra defeat Hitsugaya?

[deidara330]

You're funny dude. Hitsugaya was on par with the 3rd espada, and besides Nnoitra lost to Kenpachi who was in his SHIKAI form. what makes you think Nnoitra will handle Hitsugaya in his Bankai form, let alone his Shikai form? That's just rediculous.

So tell me, how can Nnoitra defeat Hitsugaya?Did you read my post at all? This is a serious question, and I want it answered, because I never said Nnoitra could handle Hitsugaya. In fact I said Hitsugaya would win.

[Nyruss]

Hitsugaya fighting Harribel was blatant plot. It was plainly obvious that she could have killed him at literally any point.

Nnoitra and Kenpachi are both FAR stronger than Hitsugaya could ever possibly be but what Hitsugaya lacks in strength, he makes up for in hax.

[tyrell4life194]

Hitsugaya fighting Harribel was blatant plot. It was plainly obvious that she could have killed him at literally any point.

Nnoitra and Kenpachi are both FAR stronger than Hitsugaya could ever possibly be but what Hitsugaya lacks in strength, he makes up for in hax.
Hmm, you have a point. Nnoitra is far stronger than Hitsugaya, and Hitsugaya was having trouble with Luupi, the 6th espada, who is FAR weaker than Grimmjow. And Nnoitra is stronger than Grimmjow. Dude don't even COMPARE Kenpachi to Hitsugaya. But yeah, you're right dude, my fault. What I don't understand is, how can Starrk be taken down so easily? Isn't that also Plotkai?

[Akatsuki X]

Who's Luupi?

Nnoitra is in no way stronger then Grimmjow at all.

Starkk being killed was also plot.
You have to realize that Kubo just want's all of the main protagonists to win every fight without any losses.

[Bacon]

Luppi was Grimmjow's temporary replacement,but I don't know if it was filler.

This fight is not even close unless Hitsugaiya is stronger than Kenpachi.

[321zigzag3]

Luppi was Grimmjow's temporary replacement,but I don't know if it was filler.

This fight is not even close unless Hitsugaiya is stronger than Kenpachi.

It wasn't filler.

Hitsugaya's Bankai Giant Ice Tower move is quite haxxed.

[Bacon]

It wasn't filler.

Hitsugaya's Bankai Giant Ice Tower move is quite haxxed.

Kenpachi's pool of spirit energy is equally haxxed. If it is greater than Hitsugaiya's, he will utterly smash through the ice while his opponent's Bonkai fails.

Note: I don't know if Hitsugaiya's bonkai has gotten an upgrade since his last fight.

[321zigzag3]

Kenpachi's pool of spirit energy is equally haxxed. If it is greater than Hitsugaiya's, he will utterly smash through the ice while his opponent's Bonkai fails.

Note: I don't know if Hitsugaiya's bonkai has gotten an upgrade since his last fight.

Well yeah although I still find Shikai Ichigo defeating Kenpachi still strange.

He always showed something new.

The first Hitsugaya showing he showed Shikai.
2nd showing Bankai
3rd showing Giant Ice Prison which required minor prep
4th showing Ice Mirror Clone and Giant Ice Tower

[Bacon]

Well yeah although I still find Shikai Ichigo defeating Kenpachi still strange.

He always showed something new.

The first Hitsugaya showing he showed Shikai.
2nd showing Bankai
3rd showing Giant Ice Prison which required minor prep
4th showing Ice Mirror Clone and Giant Ice Tower
Those moves are all devastating,but what about his time limit? If I am correct, those things that float above his shoulders indicate how much time he has before it runs out.
I don't see kenpachi dying before Hitsugaiya's bankai runs out of steam.

[321zigzag3]

He doesn't seem to have a time limit anymore.

[Bacon]

/facepalm

I almost forgot that this was about Nnoitra and not Kenpachi. I would say that the only thing he has going for him is that hierro that he brags about. Although it won't do him any good without the sheer reiatsu of Kenpachi.

It's likely that Nnoitra gets caught in the ice if his cero can't do a thing. >.>

[321zigzag3]

Its just a bad matchup for Nnoitora especially. Grimmjow is a much better opponent although the ice will screw him over if hit.

[THE X UCHIHA]

You've got 2 be kiddin' me , Bala is pretty enough to melt that Kid's ice and kick his butt at the very moment.

[Nyruss]

Good thing Nnoitra doesn't have Bala then.

[321zigzag3]

Since when Bala melts anything?

[Nyruss]

Since The X Uchiha decided it does.

[THE X UCHIHA]

hey wait , it melts only ice. don't be silly.
Cero is energy , and it supposed to be heater than Hitsu's ice.

this what I meant

[Nyruss]

A: You said Bala. You never said anything about Cero.
B: Prove that Cero can melt ice.

[THE X UCHIHA]

A: You said Bala. You never said anything about Cero

funny thing , Bala is Espada's Cero. and it's just 20 times faster and Powerful than Cero.


Prove that Cero can melt ice.

Cero means " Doom Blast " in the Viz Translation. As a standard energy blast, it consists of firing a powerful blast of concentrated spiritual energy at the target.

as long as Cero is a blast , it can melt anything has less heat. such as ice.

[Nyruss]

funny thing , Bala is Espada's Cero. and it's just 20 times faster and Powerful than Cero.
Bala is not an Esapada's Cero. Bala is an entirely different technique. It's also weaker than Cero, not twenty times stronger.

as long as Cero is a blast , it can melt anything less heater than it. such as ice.

Got any proof?

[THE X UCHIHA]

Bala is 20 times faster than Cero , but I dunno how much stronger it's.
I got this informations from BleachPedia. and I think their resources are reliable .

I think Hitsugaya has no chance to win.

You Lose , I win

shocker ta

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Bala is 20 times faster than Cero , but I dunno how much stronger it's.
I got this informations from BleachPedia. and I think their resources are reliable .

I think Hitsugaya has no chance to win.

You Lose , I win

shocker ta
It's weaker than Cero by a mile, and Nnoitra, hasn't shown Bala.

You're using a wiki site to debate, you therefore lose.

Dudmeister wins, you lose.

[Phoenix Wright]

*Sigh* D330.. I thought you'd have listened to others when they debated. Way too many people rely way too heavily on the MVBG, it shouldn't be used for that..

Well there's not stopping people I guess.

[deidara330]

*Sigh* D330.. I thought you'd have listened to others when they debated. Way too many people rely way too heavily on the MVBG, it shouldn't be used for that..

Well there's not stopping people I guess.I'm a member of (and practically one of the only contributers to) the MVBG. It's my opinion that a tier list should be based on wins and losses and it always has, so I couldn't move Hitsugaya up without a legitimate win for him. It was specifically for the MVBG. Technically speaking, I wasn't using the MVBG for anything. In fact, I'm using this thread for the MVBG. I don't rely on it.

[321zigzag3]

MVBG is useful for getting a sense of generalizations and idea what the character is like but not for specifics. OBD wikia is the same way.