View Full Version : Naruto Fan Fics here Aren't Really Naruto FanFics.
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-09-2010, 05:49 PM
The supposedly Naruto Fan Fics here aren't really Naruto Fan Fics, and are actually just stories about shinobi. Why?
A- A Fan Fiction is a non-canon story, usually produced by fans of the canon, featuring characters and such from the original source itself. Due to the copyright rules of the Forums, said Fan Fic doesn't exist. No Fan Fic here has Naruto Uzumaki or Kakashi Hatake as a character, nor do they follow, via verging into the canon plot. Instead, they have their own completely original characters with a completely original plot.
B - Fighting via Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu are completely original. Taijutsu is actually a martial art, meaning that Naruto, or Kishimoto, can't copyright it for himself. Ninjutsu meanwhile has existed since the time of Edo Japan, along with Genjutsu, which is more of a Batman-version. Chakra meanwhile is also referred to as Chi, which is a famous Asian principle in martial arts.
C - Terminology. The word 'Kage' is not copyrighted for Naruto, because it is a common Japanese word, standing for shadow. Chi, Ki, or Chakra meanwhile are main principles of Asian martial arts, standing for internal strength. Same goes for other stuff like Susano'o, etc.
D - Things like 'Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu' are simply element manipulation, aka a generic thing in supernatural fictions. The only thing different is the format, and I wouldn't exactly jump on the gun and say that the words 'style', 'fireball', and 'jutsu' are copyrighted by Kishi here.
Any comments?
Devroux
10-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Yeah...
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-09-2010, 06:05 PM
Like a 'I agree with you, bro' yeah or a 'you are so wrong' yeah?
Devroux
10-09-2010, 06:09 PM
I agree with you, bro.
But I don't really see the point of this. Is it to help people make better fan fictions? Because you have a whole bunch of good points but no actual base for any of it. Like you just decided to make a thread of facts.
Sephiroth
10-09-2010, 06:10 PM
The point is. The rule is you cant make copy righted Viz material Fan fics.
Devroux
10-09-2010, 06:13 PM
The supposedly Naruto Fan Fics here aren't really Naruto Fan Fics, and are actually just stories about shinobi.
This line says you're wrong.
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-09-2010, 06:16 PM
This line says you're wrong.
The point was that everybody so far has been coining the term 'fan fiction' wrong, and instead, they're been masterfully writing their own, completely original story. And then I was bored.
Devroux
10-09-2010, 06:18 PM
The point was that everybody so far has been coining the term 'fan fiction' wrong, and instead, they're been masterfully writing their own, completely original story. And then I was bored.
*claps*
Good job then. Well done gathering points and whatnot.
tsuki
10-17-2010, 03:42 PM
As long as the story is either has the canon characters in it, or takes place in the world created by the author and generally follows the rules of that world then it is a fanfiction.
yondaime
10-17-2010, 04:02 PM
But keep in mind that having that in your story is NOT allowed due to copyright laws.
Kiseki
10-18-2010, 02:21 AM
It's funny how people think I'm making a fanfic.
Because my story is about nymph's. :lol:
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-20-2010, 10:25 PM
As long as the story is either has the canon characters in it, or takes place in the world created by the author and generally follows the rules of that world then it is a fanfiction.
It has no canon characters. Last I checked, there were no Kakashi Hatakes or Naruto Uzumakes in Fan Fics here. Contradicted by OP.
Contradicted. Fan Fics here are not created in the Naruto World, seeing as that no actual reference to Konoha, the Kyuubi, etc, are made.
Contradicted by OP. Creators cannot copyright terminology from public languages nor generic fictional rules or abilities like Chi/Chakra/Ki/Qi.
But keep in mind that having that in your story is NOT allowed due to copyright laws.
Exactly. Which is terribly ironic that people call stories here 'fan fics', despite the fact that it can't even be a legal fan fic.
yondaime
10-21-2010, 10:29 AM
It has no canon characters. Last I checked, there were no Kakashi Hatakes or Naruto Uzumakes in Fan Fics here. Contradicted by OP.
Contradicted. Fan Fics here are not created in the Naruto World, seeing as that no actual reference to Konoha, the Kyuubi, etc, are made.
Contradicted by OP. Creators cannot copyright terminology from public languages nor generic fictional rules or abilities like Chi/Chakra/Ki/Qi.
Exactly. Which is terribly ironic that people call stories here 'fan fics', despite the fact that it can't even be a legal fan fic.
So, none of the Stories here are fan fics, but original stories. The title of the sub-forum is the one misleading the people.
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-24-2010, 11:55 AM
Exactly. ;P
AkiraNeko
10-24-2010, 12:10 PM
So, are you proposing that someone should change the title of the sub-forum?
yondaime
10-24-2010, 02:56 PM
Exactly. ;P
Ahh, this place is like dead. Where's your fan fic, Vat? `:))
Vatanui AKA Pride
10-24-2010, 04:24 PM
Ahh, this place is like dead. Where's your fan fic, Vat? `:))
I canceled it, but I'm substituting it for the Laughing Man in the WS RP Section.
yondaime
10-24-2010, 04:30 PM
I canceled it, but I'm substituting it for the Laughing Man in the WS RP Section.
Oh, alright. `:P
tsuki
10-30-2010, 08:11 AM
Contradicted. Fan Fics here are not created in the Naruto World, seeing as that no actual reference to Konoha, the Kyuubi, etc, are made.
Contradicted by OP. Creators cannot copyright terminology from public languages nor generic fictional rules or abilities like Chi/Chakra/Ki/Qi.
Not true. People are free to base their stories in other villages like the Sand or Mist villages, or they can create their own village which has similar qualities to Konoha. Thus it is set in the Naruto world.
Copywright has nothing to do with anything. If you say "Soul Society" then you are obviously talking about Bleach. If you say "Sharingan" then you are obviously talking about Naruto.
yondaime
10-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Not true. People are free to base their stories in other villages like the Sand or Mist villages, or they can create their own village which has similar qualities to Konoha. Thus it is set in the Naruto world.
Copywright has nothing to do with anything. If you say "Soul Society" then you are obviously talking about Bleach. If you say "Sharingan" then you are obviously talking about Naruto.
The problem is that it's not allowed here.
Invisible Fog
10-31-2010, 08:52 AM
@yondaime:
Isn't that a little too strict, I mean can't you make a character make a reference to Sharingan or something?
Konoha'sGreenThunder
10-31-2010, 09:01 AM
@Invisible Fog: The rules exist for legal reasons.
@The rest of the thread: No, words like that can't be copyrighted, but the specific ideas and ways they're used, in a way, can be. If you were for some reason brought to court for making and selling a story about a Shinobi who uses handsigns and chakra/chi to make fire style attacks, you can't really argue that those are all common things, and therefore they can't do anything.
Yea, really bad and simple example, but you get my point.
Invisible Fog
10-31-2010, 09:10 AM
@KGT: I know, but isn't that going over the top? I'm serious I can find fanfics that make references to Sharingan.
yondaime
10-31-2010, 01:40 PM
@KGT: I know, but isn't that going over the top? I'm serious I can find fanfics that make references to Sharingan.
Where? If the fan fic is in here, could you give me a link to it so I can take a look?
tsuki
11-03-2010, 06:02 PM
The problem is that it's not allowed here.
Actually it is. I have checked with the admins before. The only thing they specifically said were illegal were using characters and using Leaf village/konoha/leaf ninja.
Devroux
11-03-2010, 06:48 PM
Just a question:
If I wanted to put something about the war in Bleach at the beginning of the fanfic would it be legal if I didn't say any names?
yondaime
11-04-2010, 03:15 PM
Actually it is. I have checked with the admins before. The only thing they specifically said were illegal were using characters and using Leaf village/konoha/leaf ninja.
Yes, I know that. I thought you were talking about any character in Naruto.
Just a question:
If I wanted to put something about the war in Bleach at the beginning of the fanfic would it be legal if I didn't say any names?
Well, it depends on how you use it. If you just refer to the war and mention nothing else or don't go into details, it's fine. But, if you mention characters and go into detail about the characters or the war, it's not fine. Hope that helped. If you want a more clearer answer, you can contact the Admins. :)
Devroux
11-04-2010, 03:26 PM
That helped. And am I allowed to use "Soul Society" and "Hueco Mundo"?
yondaime
11-05-2010, 02:07 PM
That helped. And am I allowed to use "Soul Society" and "Hueco Mundo"?
Not sure about that, since I'm not too familiar with Bleach. You can ask an admin for a clear answer.
Devroux
11-05-2010, 03:25 PM
Alright I'll do that. Thanks for the help.
yondaime
11-05-2010, 04:39 PM
Alright I'll do that. Thanks for the help.
No problem, I'm here to help. :)
Bacon
11-05-2010, 05:09 PM
I asked maik about using the word, "Seireitei",twas ok.
Invisible Fog
11-06-2010, 02:10 PM
Where? If the fan fic is in here, could you give me a link to it so I can take a look?
Sorry I know this is late and you're probably done with this thread but w/e
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4113010&postcount=42&highlight=Sharingan
Yes all I did was search this forum for sharingan and easy as pie I searched the thread for Sharingan and I came up with this.
Byakugan, Sharingan, and Rinnegan in one post.
Shikamaru Nara
11-06-2010, 02:11 PM
I agree, but I don't even think they're allowed here in the first place.
Invisible Fog
11-06-2010, 02:13 PM
Are you talking to me?
Shikamaru Nara
11-06-2010, 02:13 PM
No, Vat.
mrsticky005
11-07-2010, 07:57 AM
the section is fan fiction art and stories.
Problem solved.
Devroux
11-07-2010, 09:28 AM
That doesn't change the fact that there are rules. We need to choose our words carefully to overally stay out of trouble.
Crisis
11-07-2010, 09:31 AM
That's basically all it really is. Pshh, I knew this a while ago, get with the program. :lol:
Vatanui AKA Pride
11-10-2010, 07:53 PM
the section is fan fiction art and stories.
Problem solved.
Thing is, this is a Naruto Forum. Meaning that people will mistake it for that writing Naruto Fan Fics or having fan arts is okay.
Jason Uchiha
11-12-2010, 06:56 PM
The supposedly Naruto Fan Fics here aren't really Naruto Fan Fics, and are actually just stories about shinobi. Why?
A- A Fan Fiction is a non-canon story, usually produced by fans of the canon, featuring characters and such from the original source itself. Due to the copyright rules of the Forums, said Fan Fic doesn't exist. No Fan Fic here has Naruto Uzumaki or Kakashi Hatake as a character, nor do they follow, via verging into the canon plot. Instead, they have their own completely original characters with a completely original plot.
B - Fighting via Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu are completely original. Taijutsu is actually a martial art, meaning that Naruto, or Kishimoto, can't copyright it for himself. Ninjutsu meanwhile has existed since the time of Edo Japan, along with Genjutsu, which is more of a Batman-version. Chakra meanwhile is also referred to as Chi, which is a famous Asian principle in martial arts.
C - Terminology. The word 'Kage' is not copyrighted for Naruto, because it is a common Japanese word, standing for shadow. Chi, Ki, or Chakra meanwhile are main principles of Asian martial arts, standing for internal strength. Same goes for other stuff like Susano'o, etc.
D - Things like 'Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu' are simply element manipulation, aka a generic thing in supernatural fictions. The only thing different is the format, and I wouldn't exactly jump on the gun and say that the words 'style', 'fireball', and 'jutsu' are copyrighted by Kishi here.
Any comments?
true they aren't really naruto fan ifcs but i is against the rules to use any naruto characters or storyline.
two i wonder if i could get my fan fic publised with out getting sueed for copyright since i did not use any characters from the series and most of it is copmltey made up.
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