Got Stamina?

[Yori]

BFV has no limit on stamina right? We can spam cero's and Kido's as long as we want to right?

[kejon16]

I don't think we have a limit. Which is kinda dumb if I may say.

[Draco Uchiha]

People has already tooken the "free" out of freeverse, dont take more of it PLEEEEEEEASE.

[Hally]

You cant limit it this is not WS hense it is fv. Find another way to defeat your opponent. There are several but making someone run out of sp aint happenin.

[junchurikioftheleaf]

the fact that we really have no way of determining exact values without creating a war system which would either give us CRAZY amounts of reiatsu like in the 10000s or limit it in the extreme to were 5 ceros would used up all your reiatsu makes the stamina freedom nessecary

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

While there is no true system to keep track of stamina, Reishi, and the shiz, people meanwhile have to keep things realistic. You can't do one thousand Ceros, or make twenty #91 Black Boxes in an instant. Have a sense of realism and logical reasoning folks.

[junchurikioftheleaf]

While there is no true system to keep track of stamina, Reishi, and the shiz, people meanwhile have to keep things realistic. You can't do one thousand Ceros, or make twenty #91 Black Boxes in an instant. Have a sense of realism and logical reasoning folks.
i can do 1000 ceros >.> its just one big cero split into small pieces tho so its focused more on destructive range then power

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

i can do 1000 ceros >.> its just one big cero split into small pieces tho so its focused more on destructive range then power

Those are Starrk Ceros. Or more likely, Balas.

[Hally]

I can do 1000 cero blades but tecnically they are one massive cero that explods into 1000 tiny blades but they are not all that strong alone its the majority of them hitting thats the deadly part of the attack

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

I can do 1000 cero blades but tecnically they are one massive cero that explods into 1000 tiny blades but they are not all that strong alone its the majority of them hitting thats the deadly part of the attack

Than they're really crappy Balas.

[Yori]

Which can be tanked fairly easy

[junchurikioftheleaf]

Those are Starrk Ceros. Or more likely, Balas.
eh they carry the destructive power of a cero and the range of an area attack no more speed then usual and it takes a while to charge

[Hally]

Yes they are like bala thats why I dont use them anymore and came up with a new raining cero move.

[Hidan.of dA.MisT]

yeah we can cero spam starrk style all we want

[Seven]

Reasoning > limitations

[Makoto Cifer]

i have a cero that splits into thousnds, however thats in my 1st release.

[Bacon]

Splitting it into thousands proportionally weakens each shot.

[Makoto Cifer]

Splitting it into thousands proportionally weakens each shot.


exactly, that why each shot is filled with super heated sp. each cero is an premeditated explsion.

[Crisis]

Who here isn't a speed Character?

[Zenon22]

Who here isn't a speed Character?

I'm an attack character.

[Kawaii Koneko<3]

I still don't get how you cant make someone run out of sp.....

[Kazumi Saitama]

Stamina would be more realistic in battle, but how would you measure it?

[Bacon]

Who here isn't a speed Character?
I'm a tank.

[Seven]

I'm a tank.

me too.

[Crisis]

I'm a tank.
As in defense?

[Bacon]

Stamina would be more realistic in battle, but how would you measure it?
Placing a cost on each technique?

For instance:

150 points total

sonnido = .25
cero = 1
bala=.25
hado under 40 = 1
hado over 40 = 2
gran rey cero =1.5
cero oscura = 2
diverting spirit energy = .10

This is just off the top of my head.

[Bacon]

me too.
Kool. ^^
As in defense?
Yep, I have striking power. However, my character is built to outlast others and overwhelm them with effects rather than overpowering them with brute force.

[Seven]

Limitations just make people mad and the fights don't last as long.
I say be realistic with ur moves and don't spam or else u just lose for GM.

[Noctis Arashi]

I'ma defense balanced. It varies. I'm a person who outlasts, and weakens.

Any way, If you keep using special cero and moves, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, without regaining SE in any way, you should run out.

[Seven]

Kool. ^^

Yep, I have striking power. However, my character is built to outlast others and overwhelm them with effects rather than overpowering them with brute force.

I'm sort of an attack/speed/strategy character.
I know all ways to dodge and deflect attacks rather than just taking them.

[Bacon]

Limitations just make people mad and the fights don't last as long.
I say be realistic with ur moves and don't spam or else u just lose for GM.
I like this idea best.
I'ma defense balanced. It varies. I'm a person who outlasts, and weakens.

Any way, If you keep using special cero and moves, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, without regaining SE in any way, you should run out.
Implementing something like this is hard because bleach fighters stop having limits after byukuya versus Ichigo. Once this fight ended, there stopped being consequences on one's body for using too much spirit energy. there also stopped being consequences for two opposing powers, I.E Ichigo versus Kenpatchi Zaraki.

[Bacon]

I'm sort of an attack/speed/strategy character.
I know all ways to dodge and deflect attacks rather than just taking them.
A tank is built to last.Speed is the last thing on our minds. xD

[Seven]

I like this idea best.

Implementing something like this is hard because bleach fighters stop having limits after byukuya versus Ichigo. Once this fight ended, there stopped being consequences on one's body for using too much spirit energy. there also stopped being consequences for two opposing powers, I.E Ichigo versus Kenpatchi Zaraki.

Gracias.:cool:

[Kazumi Saitama]

Limitations just make people mad and the fights don't last as long.
I say be realistic with ur moves and don't spam or else u just lose for GM.

I agree.

[Seven]

I agree.

So is this the foreboading that reaks of your comeback to BFV?

[Bacon]

I agree.
Kazzy, I need your smarticle brain.

How do you rate hado versus cero? Does number matter or will it be sufficient to just make all things equal?

[Sephiroth]

BTW what bout the people who use a different type character. like me and vat??

[Kazumi Saitama]

So is this the foreboading that reaks of your comeback to BFV?

Haha. Perhaps.

Kazzy, I need your smarticle brain.

How do you rate hado versus cero? Does number matter or will it be sufficient to just make all things equal?

Give me an example.

[Kazumi Saitama]

BTW what bout the people who use a different type character. like me and vat??

Are we actually using these character types?

[Seven]

Haha. Perhaps.



Give me an example.

Reaper or Arrancar?

[Noctis Arashi]

Kazumi, your sig. Its so distracting. >.< *tries not to stare*

[Kazumi Saitama]

Reaper or Arrancar?

Psh, Arrancar.

Kazumi, your sig. Its so distracting. >.< *tries not to stare*

Lol.

I tend to hear that a lot.

[Sephiroth]

Are we actually using these character types?

I am. Im not useing a Bleach template anymore due to the power of SR and arrancar being way uneven.

[Seven]

Psh, Arrancar.



Lol.

I tend to hear that a lot.

Reaper is a way better challenge, though Bacon has pretty much stomped the border between them.

[Kazumi Saitama]

I am. Im not useing a Bleach template anymore due to the power of SR and arrancar being way uneven.

Hm, I suppose I would be balanced.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Reaper is a way better challenge, though Bacon has pretty much stomped the border between them.

I have never been a Shinigami lover.

[Seven]

I have never been a Shinigami lover.

I was one of the first Arrancar then about a year later I switched, Reaping is way more fun then weaping.

[Kazumi Saitama]

I was one of the first Arrancar then about a year later I switched, Reaping is way more fun then weaping.

Killing is way more fun than saving.

[Seven]

Killing is way more fun than saving.

Being able to reform my body after death is way funner than just dying.
(reference to Yamaji if u read the new chapter. )

[Kazumi Saitama]

Being able to reform my body after death is way funner than just dying.
(reference to Yamaji if u read the new chapter. )

Chapter number?

[Seven]

chapter number?

423..

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Limitations just make people mad and the fights don't last as long.
I say be realistic with ur moves and don't spam or else u just lose for GM..
Aka what I said in the first place. >.>

423..

[Kazumi Saitama]

423..

I read that chapter.

Who is Yamaji?

[Seven]

I read that chapter.

Who is Yamaji?

Captain Commander.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Captain Commander.

Captain Yamamoto.

Wth did you get Yamaji?

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

It's a short version.

[Seven]

correct

[Kazumi Saitama]

It's a short version.

By two letters? >.>

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Yup.

..

[Kazumi Saitama]

Yup.

..

I never understood such abbreviations.

Anyway.

Yamamoto takes advantage of the damage inflicted by Wonderweiss' explosion to use his own charred body as a catalyst for the sacrificial spell, Hado #96 "Itto Kaso", his arm cracking as he casts it and becomes greatly damaged.

10 days, after Aizen is defeated and captured, Yamamoto returns to Soul Society where his injures are healed, save for the loss of his left arm.


Yamamoto never died.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Who wants to beat that there will be a Time Skip?

[Seven]

Kaz would u call,
5 ceros, 3 bala, 5 AI's, 3 hierro hardens, 2 sonido, 3 advanced sonido, a Gren Rey Cero, immensely increasing all senses, and appearently speed all in a single turn GM?

[Kazumi Saitama]

Kaz would u call,
5 ceros, 3 bala, 5 AI's, 3 hierro hardens, 2 sonido, 3 advanced sonido, a Gren Rey Cero, immensely increasing all senses, and appearently speed all in a single turn GM?

Yes.

That does not seem very realistic.

[Seven]

Yes.

That does not seem very realistic.

Then look at this highlighted move at the bottom of the page and say if Mako did or not because he thinks its possible.

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4121363#post4121363

[Kazumi Saitama]

Then look at this highlighted move at the bottom of the page and say if Mako did or not because he thinks its possible.

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4121363#post4121363

In my opinion, he would have exhausted his Spiritual Energy and grew considerably fatigued. Instead of stopping the battle, I would continue and use his fatigue as a disadvantage. I would like to see him argue a different scenario from the amount of Energy he exerted.

[Seven]

In my opinion, he would have exhausted his Spiritual Energy and grew considerably fatigued. Instead of stopping the battle, I would continue and use his fatigue as a disadvantage. I would like to see him argue a different scenario from the amount of Energy he exerted.

He already said that in the next turn he would say he's exausted, it's pretty much an auto win for me either way.

[Kazumi Saitama]

He already said that in the next turn he would say he's exausted, it's pretty much an auto win for me either way.

Then, there you go.