Result for following battle:

[Morning Tiger:0]

Neji vs Lee.
Neji stomps.







1) Rotation guards against all Gate attacks(and obviously regular taijutsu as well) as Neji has proven its execution timing to reside within a range of "fraction of a second" to "instantaneous.
Manga proof:

[Kuromaki]

Good job on making a biased poll. No, really.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Good job on making a biased poll. No, really.

So be it.

It hardly matters. There is a legitimate answer there. The only one, actually.

[Kuromaki]

Why are you so intent on proving this to everyone?

[Morning Tiger:0]

Why are you so intent on proving this to everyone?
Ignorance bothers me.

Lies infuriate me.

You may or may not know who I'm referring to.

So I will always prove what needs be.

[Nyruss]

Why don't you prove Neji can beat Lee without wanking? ;)

[Morning Tiger:0]

*has no idea what was just said*

[Akatsuki X]

I hope your kidding.
Lee stomps

Unless you can show me that rotation can block anything close to Primary Lotus,
then you cannot win this debate.

[The 1st Hokage]

Neji vs Lee.
Neji stomps.







1) Rotation guards against all Gate attacks(and obviously regular taijutsu as well) as Neji has proven its execution timing to reside within a range of "fraction of a second" to "instantaneous.
Manga proof:
If Rotation could gaurd against all Taijutsu based attacs, explain why Neji didn't just use it when he fought Naruto in the chuunin exams, Chapter 104 page 10 to be exact.

[Morning Tiger:0]

If Rotation could gaurd against all Taijutsu based attacs, explain why Neji didn't just use it when he fought Naruto in the chuunin exams, Chapter 104 page 10 to be exact.


1) He did.

2) He couldn't fully execute the technique due to 'plot no jutsu;' his feet became magically adhered to the earth as Naruto was ranting at him.

There you are. :)
Neji stomps anyway, due to Gentle Fist, which Lee can only counter while in Gates State, which Neji can prevent. Enough supporting Lee...it has become beyond hopeless.

[Shikamaru Nara]

You seem intelligent, but why are you so hung up on this, bro?

[Morning Tiger:0]

You seem intelligent, but why are you so hung up on this, bro?


Simply due to this individual's attempted imposing of his beliefs, which, repeatedly, I've conveyed to highly resent.
I'll wash my hands of the matter, when, politely, he does.

(Additonally, I've had quite enough of those on this forum who downplay Neji's strength.)

For example, most refuse to accept Neji's speed is equal to Lee's, despite its being proven by statistics in the DB, which, according to this site's 'nindo,(to follow Kishimoto's ideas) are of utmost reliability.
4.5=4.5
64 Palms= Gates.

I've also posted several essays to prove my ideas, only to be entirely ignored by this one person. I'm quite close to blocking him myself.



Hello, by the way. How are you?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Simply due to this individual's attempted imposing of his beliefs, which, repeatedly, I've conveyed to highly resent.
I'll wash my hands of the matter, when, politely, he does.

(Additonally, I've had quite enough of those on this forum who downplay Neji's strength.)

For example, most refuse to accept Neji's speed is equal to Lee's, despite its being proven by statistics in the DB, which, according to this site's 'nindo,(to follow Kishimoto's ideas) are of utmost reliability.
4.5=4.5
64 Palms= Gates.

I've also posted several essays to prove my ideas, only to be entirely ignored by this one person. I'm quite close to blocking him myself.



Hello, by the way. How are you?

I'm not going to deny Neji's abilities, but I don't think he would be able to beat Lee. If he had better endurance, I'd be more prone to think that he has more of a chance at winning, but if he takes one blow, chances are he's done.

Actually doing quite well. You?

[Morning Tiger:0]

I'm not going to deny Neji's abilities, but I don't think he would be able to beat Lee. If he had better endurance, I'd be more prone to think that he has more of a chance at winning, but if he takes one blow, chances are he's done.

Actually doing quite well. You?
Neji certainly lacks endurance, although in terms of vulnerability,
I'd say the same for Lee, as, he has no defense to the Gentle Fist(his entire arsenal of attacks relies upon his physical status.)

I'm alright...relatively content at the moment, thanks for asking.
Have you been reading the manga? If so, what do you think about the most current chapter...?

[321zigzag3]

Lee implied in Part 1 that he needed Gates to take on Neji successfully and etc etc.

The reason why Weightless Lee still cannot defeat Neji is because of his incredible reaction and reflexes for a genin and his jyuuken style and rotation in Part 1. Sure Weightless will do well in giving Neji a solid time nevertheless.

But the thing is Neji is still able to react to Weightless and has the reflexes to pull it despite his rather inferior movement speed.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Neji certainly lacks endurance, although in terms of vulnerability,
I'd say the same for Lee, as, he has no defense to the Gentle Fist(his entire arsenal of attacks relies upon his physical status.)

I'm alright...relatively content at the moment, thanks for asking.
Have you been reading the manga? If so, what do you think about the most current chapter...?

He was tattered and torn by Kidomaru. He had absolutely no defense to his rotating arrows. Rotation was too weak. I'm guessing that Lee's punches are much stronger than those arrows.

Yes. I think the current story is rather blunt, but it'll pick up.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Lee implied in Part 1 that he needed Gates to take on Neji successfully and etc etc.

The reason why Weightless Lee still cannot defeat Neji is because of his incredible reaction and reflexes for a genin and his jyuuken style and rotation in Part 1. Sure Weightless will do well in giving Neji a solid time nevertheless.

But the thing is Neji is still able to react to Weightless and has the reflexes to pull it despite his rather inferior movement speed.

See, I feel Neji's reflexes spell a different type of speed, but everyone's entitled their perception, I suppose.

I'd remark on Neji's evident lack of intimadtion when viewing Lee's fight with Gaara; he only activated his Byakugan, and was quite intimidated, when Lee entered Gates.
It is uncertain if he was able to fully assess his movement, although.

But I'd assume he was able to, unless he would have freaked, lol.


Edit, at Shika:

Well, I'd say being tatered by arrows, and still managing to defeat a high-level sound ninja, embraces any suggestion of endurance.

(Also, he could not use Rotation due to his lack of chakra. He used it excessively beforehand, which was made obvious.)

And, what did you think of th last page?

[mikeiskewl922]

He was tattered and torn by Kidomaru. He had absolutely no defense to his rotating arrows. Rotation was too weak. I'm guessing that Lee's punches are much stronger than those arrows.

Yes. I think the current story is rather blunt, but it'll pick up.

Just tought i would step in. :D
He did use Rotation on Kido. but when Kido went into CSM2, then he shot the arrows, Neji didn't have enough chakra or energy to rotate in time. They were fast don't forget.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Just tought i would step in. :D
He did use Rotation on Kido. but when Kido went into CSM2, then he shot the arrows, Neji didn't have enough chakra or energy to rotate in time. They were fast don't forget.

I'd gladly debate with ya.

Doesn't matter. His Rotation obviously wouldn't have been strong enough, especially given his blind spot.

[mikeiskewl922]

Maybe not, but still, he didn't try because of the lack of chakra.

[321zigzag3]

See, I feel Neji's reflexes spell a different type of speed, but everyone's entitled their perception, I suppose.

I'd remark on Neji's evident lack of intimadtion when viewing Lee's fight with Gaara; he only activated his Byakugan, and was quite intimidated, when Lee entered Gates.
It is uncertain if he was able to fully assess his movement, although.

But I'd assume he was able to, unless he would have freaked, lol.


If you mean as in 64 palms? Then yes its easily quite high. But other than that no. He is obviously beyond genin or chunin in reflexes in that regard.

Well yes Neji actually did take Gates seriously.


The problem is Kishimoto is just being asinine.

And Neji's poor showing in Part 2 other than breaking water prison which is good doesn't help either.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Maybe not, but still, he didn't try because of the lack of chakra.

He easily had enough. Otherwise he wouldn't have been standing.

[Morning Tiger:0]

I'd gladly debate with ya.

Doesn't matter. His Rotation obviously wouldn't have been strong enough, especially given his blind spot.


When he had just developed Rotation, and used it prematurely against a portion of the Nine Tails power, he succesfully protected himself.

Several months after this, he'd nearly perfected his Rotation, and even increased its size. It was undeniably strong enough to deflect an arrow.

Additonally, his blind spot is unrelated to the Rotation's effectiveness. What did you mean by that?





And...he was barely able to stand, due to his lack of chakra. He even said,"I'm out of chakra."
also, Rotation uses a ridiculous amount of chakra.

May we move on to the next point?

[321zigzag3]

Actually he didn't use rotation against the arrow. He merely used chakra to deflect its path slightly.

[Shikamaru Nara]

When he had just developed Rotation, and used it prematurely against a portion of the Nine Tails power, he succesfully protected himself.

Several months after this, he'd nearly perfected his Rotation, and even increased its size. It was undeniably strong enough to deflect an arrow.

Additonally, his blind spot is unrelated to the Rotation's effectiveness. What did you mean by that?

Kyuubi Field isn't that strong. Haku managed to survive a full power punch.

I meant that he may be screwed if Lee figures it out.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Actually he didn't use rotation against the arrow. He merely used chakra to deflect its path slightly.


He didn't have enough chakra to use Rotation, which is why he did that, yes.


Edit, at Shika:
His blind spot had only beentaken advantage of with a small, slim ninja tool...
Lee would literally not be able to fit, lol.

Additonally, he can radiate chakra to those few degrees, which was done, btw, and void his blindspot.

Also, Naruto stated himself while fighting Neji, that the portion he had released had been stronger than that of his last release. So...

[321zigzag3]

He didn't have enough chakra to use Rotation, which is why he did that, yes.


Edit, at Shika:
His blind spot had only beentaken advantage of with a small, slim ninja tool...
Lee would literally not be able to fit, lol.

Additonally, he can radiate chakra to those few degrees, which was done, btw, and void his blindspot.

Actually its mainly because the multiple kunai knives really injured Neji that he needed time to get himself together.

While he used enormous chakra releasing to detect the arrow.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Actually its mainly because the multiple kunai knives really injured Neji that he needed time to get himself together.

While he used enormous chakra releasing to detect the arrow.

Actually, Rotation, a physcial, solid, Roating wall, consists of much more chakra than a dispersed field in the immediate atmosphere.
Although, I do remember Kidomaru remarking on the magnitude of the chakra use, although thats his assumption.

Edit, and Mike:

Lol...nice.

Maybe Neji should chop hisnhair off..like Sakura had done unnecessarily. xD

[mikeiskewl922]

He easily had enough. Otherwise he wouldn't have been standing.


Either way, Lee isn't going to be shooting arrows anytime soon.

Just some food for thought: Ya know how Kishi doesn't like the female ninjas very much? Well, maybe if Neji had some shorter hair, he would be 10x better. xD

Edit @ MT: EXACTLY! xD

[321zigzag3]

Actually, Rotation, a physcial, solid, Roating wall, consists of much more chakra than a dispersed field in the immediate atmosphere.
Although, I do remember Kidomaru remarking on the magnitude of the chakra use, although thats his assumption.

Edit, and Mike:

Lol...nice.

Maybe Neji should chop hisnhair off..like Sakura had done unnecessarily. xD

What Neji is much more of a waste though. Rotation Neji with his chakra control can use it sparingly.



Anyway I always have said this since last year directly for Neji vs Lee.

Gates or bust.

[Morning Tiger:0]

What Neji is much more of a waste though. Rotation Neji with his chakra control can use it sparingly.



Anyway I always have said this since last year directly for Neji vs Lee.

Gates or bust.

What?

Lol, can you rephrase that?

I think you said somewhere there, that Neji can use his Rotation spraningly, which, in the Shippuden, he can.

In the fight with Kidomaru, that was obviously disproven, as he only used it 3 or less times...and became exhausted.

Edit, @ whomever it concerns:

LOL. Who is the frustrated child that edited my poll in spite of his frustration? xD

[The 1st Hokage]

1) He did.

2) He couldn't fully execute the technique due to 'plot no jutsu;' his feet became magically adhered to the earth as Naruto was ranting at him.

There you are. :)
Neji stomps anyway, due to Gentle Fist, which Lee can only counter while in Gates State, which Neji can prevent. Enough supporting Lee...it has become beyond hopeless.
1) Not during that moment.

2) I could say the same when it comes to Naruto not beating Neji sooner. PNJ is debatable in some moments, and obvious in others. This is one of those debatable ones.

Now, the 1st gate, is the Gate of Opening. It releases any and all restraints on the mind and body. It would bust through the blockage caused by the Gentle Fist techniques.

[mikeiskewl922]

1) Not during that moment.

2) I could say the same when it comes to Naruto not beating Neji sooner. PNJ is debatable in some moments, and obvious in others. This is one of those debatable ones.

Now, the 1st gate, is the Gate of Opening. It releases any and all restraints on the mind and body. It would bust through the blockage caused by the Gentle Fist techniques.

2). I thnik Neji wasa more selfish and toyed with Naruto more. If he went for the kill faster, then he might have one. If he didn't stand there and talk for liike 589745984798715chapters then maybe it would have ended sooner.

What if Neji used 64 Palms?

[321zigzag3]

What?

Lol, can you rephrase that?

I think you said somewhere there, that Neji can use his Rotation spraningly, which, in the Shippuden, he can.

In the fight with Kidomaru, that was obviously disproven, as he only used it 3 or less times...and became exhausted.


I meant the chakra release he used was a waste.

He only used it three times because Kidomaru used kunai on him. It really weakened Neji that Neji was forced to waste his chakra on a huge wasteful release.

If neji didn't get hit by kunai I am sure he could have used rotation a few more times at least.

[The 1st Hokage]

2). I thnik Neji wasa more selfish and toyed with Naruto more. If he went for the kill faster, then he might have one. If he didn't stand there and talk for liike 589745984798715chapters then maybe it would have ended sooner.

What if Neji used 64 Palms?
Time it takes to say "8 trigrams; 64 palms!!!!111!!" >>> Time it takes to say "Gate of Opening!!!"

[mikeiskewl922]

Time it takes to say "8 trigrams; 64 palms!!!!111!!" >>> Time it takes to say "Gate of Opening!!!"

But Neji could at least run up or say it after it's completed, like start with "2 Palms", then at the end say, "8 Triagrams: 64 Palms!"
And with Lee has to srtand still to open Gates. << Am i correct?

[Morning Tiger:0]

I meant the chakra release he used was a waste.

He only used it three times because Kidomaru used kunai on him. It really weakened Neji that Neji was forced to waste his chakra on a huge wasteful release.

If neji didn't get hit by kunai I am sure he could have used rotation a few more times at least.
I would agree if it wasn't for Neji stating he was out of chakra...
And, that he had to resort to expending chakra for a giant field merely to detect the tragectory and location of an incoming arrow...(obvs, if he had sufficient, chakra, he would have easily deflected the arrow with Rotation.)

1) Not during that moment.

2) I could say the same when it comes to Naruto not beating Neji sooner. PNJ is debatable in some moments, and obvious in others. This is one of those debatable ones.

Now, the 1st gate, is the Gate of Opening. It releases any and all restraints on the mind and body. It would bust through the blockage caused by the Gentle Fist techniques.
1) What moment? He used it- and prematurely at that.

2) You've got it backwards. Neji could have entirely overwhelmed him with 64 Palms from the start. Additonally, Neji only lost due to his underestmating Naruto, his carelessness, which he directly stated.
3) I'm not concerned for chakra usage on Lee's part.

The Gentle Fist, in this case, would exploit the fact that Lee's internal organs would be severely damaged. Obviously, he'd die quite quickly if he opened gates.


And it wouldn't matter. I've already proven Neji's ability to nlock Gate attacks.

[321zigzag3]

I would agree if it wasn't for Neji stating he was out of chakra...
And, that he had to resort to expending chakra for a giant field merely to detect the tragectory and location of an incoming arrow...(obvs, if he had sufficient, chakra, he would have easily deflected the arrow with Rotation.)


You aren't reading what I said.

Neji said that after he had release that huge field I believe.

Again he couldn't do rotation because of the multiple kunai wounding him severely.

[Morning Tiger:0]

You aren't reading what I said.

Neji said that after he had release that huge field I believe.

Again he couldn't do rotation because of the multiple kunai wounding him severely.

1) You're probably correct with that.

2)He couldn't execute said technique due to his lack of chakra...(as he wouldn't have had to resort to projecting a field of chakra to merely detect and incoming arrow)
it has nothing to do with phycial wounds.

Edit, at Mike:
More like 34678365746589723479857389482375894375899878925 chapters of talking, and 38345823745873284582378724384758347738475893247985 787934758943758934759873485823758957 chapters of patronizing him. xD

[mikeiskewl922]

1) You're probably correct with that.

2)He couldn't execute said technique due to his lack of chakra...(as he wouldn't have had to resort to projecting a field of chakra to merely detect and incoming arrow)
it has nothing to do with phycial wounds.

Edit, at Mike:
More like 34678365746589723479857389482375894375899878925 chapters of talking, and 38345823745873284582378724384758347738475893247985 787934758943758934759873485823758957 chapters of patronizing him. xD

Agreed. :I
If Neji actually tried, he might have been able to do smething.. xD

[321zigzag3]

1) You're probably correct with that.

2)He couldn't execute said technique due to his lack of chakra...(as he wouldn't have had to resort to projecting a field of chakra to merely detect and incoming arrow)
it has nothing to do with phycial wounds.


Ok then.


Nothing to do with wounds? Then explain to me why Neji after he got hit once with kunai directly in the back started to huff and puff and etc. And even he got hit 5 more later on, he barely got on his feet. Kidomaru being surprised at Neji's ability to barely hang on due to endurance decided to go CS2.

Obviously his wounds in his back affected him greatly although it didn't kill him.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Agreed. :I
If Neji actually tried, he might have been able to do smething.. xD

I know, right?

He was too pompous.

Silly Neji...
Annoying plot no jutsu. -_-

Edit, @ zigzag:

I was implying physcial wounds are unrelated to chakra control, which is true.

Neji actually severely wounded Kidomaru with the Gentle Fist-with a solid object lodged in his abdomen.
That kinda proves my point...

[mikeiskewl922]

I know, right?

He was too pompous.

Silly Neji...
Annoying plot no jutsu. -_-

Pompous.. Hm.. NEW WORD! :D:D:D:D:D:D

Anyways, what would happen in this fight? Were going severly off-topic.. Sorta..

[Morning Tiger:0]

Pompous.. Hm.. NEW WORD! :D:D:D:D:D:D

Anyways, what would happen in this fight? Were going severly off-topic.. Sorta..
I LOVE THAT WORD.


Lol, prior to this nonsense, xD, Shikamaru mentioned Kidomaru's arrow is weaker than Lee's Gate attacks, and that Neji wouldn't block it with Rotation.

From that, (because Neji couldn't have used Rotation to block the arrow due to his lack of chakra, and that Neji's Rotation, as proven repeatdely, is obviously more than enough to block Gate attacks) the topic was severely distorted.

[321zigzag3]

I was implying physcial wounds are unrelated to chakra control, which is true.

Neji actually severely wounded Kidomaru with the Gentle Fist-with a solid object lodged in his abdomen.
That kinda proves my point...

Ok then but it shows why he was unable to use rotation. Which forced him to waste his chakra on a huge field which made him waste his chakra much faster. Which is why I said Rotation in conjunction with his chakra control more sparingly.

Now you see my point?

[Morning Tiger:0]

Ok then but it shows why he was unable to use rotation. Which forced him to waste his chakra on a huge field which made him waste his chakra much faster. Which is why I said Rotation in conjunction with his chakra control more sparingly.

Now you see my point?

I repeatedly said...the field...did not...utilize nearly as much chakra as Rotation would have.

If he tried to use Rotation, he would have lost. That's why resorted to his last option, which was not "wasting hsi chakra," but utilizing it so he wouldn't be fatally impaled with the arrow.


So, no, your point is not consistent to me.






Going way back...

I've already proven Neji's ability to negate the force of Gate attacks with Rotation.
I'll repeat myself once more.


Neji, when he RECENTLY learned Rotation, used it to guard against a STRONGER VERSION OF THE 9 TAIL'S POWER THAN THAT OF USED AGAINST HAKU, and with PREMATURE EXECUTION, ENTIRELY PROTECTED HIMSELF.

LATER, he had NEARLY MASTERED THE TECHNIQUE, so obviously if he DID NOT HOLD BACK, he'd be able to deflect the arrow.

NOW, in the SHIPPUDEN, he's mastered the technique, and is able to use it multiple times without tiring, proven by the manga chapter which includes his fight with his clone.

I apologize any rudness is felt from this post.
I'm only reiterating my valid point...

[321zigzag3]

I repeatedly said...the field...did not...utilize nearly as much chakra as Rotation would have.


How did you come to that?

[Morning Tiger:0]

How did you come to that?


Common sense. Solid, condensed wall> dispersed, intangable field within immediate atmosphere.

[321zigzag3]

Common sense. Solid, condensed wall> dispersed, intangable field within immediate atmosphere.

The thing is that the whole intangible area is completely filled with chakra.
But Neji had to continuously release it at an enormous rate.

Rotation is just wall of spinning chakra.

Chakra itself cannot block physical attacks all the way which is why Neji spins a high rate.

[Morning Tiger:0]

The thing is that the whole intangible area is completely filled with chakra.
But Neji had to continuously release it at an enormous rate.

Rotation is just wall of spinning chakra.

Chakra itself cannot block physical attacks all the way which is why Neji spins a high rate.


Condensed chakra can.

Which is what Rotation is.
An intense burst of condensed chakra.

Are you suggesting you honestly don't agree with my point?
:/

There's nothing biased about it...

[321zigzag3]

Condensed chakra can.

Which is what Rotation is.
An intense burst of condensed chakra.

Are you suggesting you honestly don't agree with my point?
:/

There's nothing biased about it...

Yes rotation makes it so it can block physical attacks especially stronger ones.

Well I have hard time believing that a large sphere of chakra which is continuously poured aout in an enormous rate can't be more wasteful than a spinnning rotation of chakra. Considering the latter is great display of chakra control usage too.

I never said you were being biased.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Yes rotation makes it so it can block physical attacks especially stronger ones.

Well I have hard time believing that a large sphere of chakra which is continuously poured aout in an enormous rate can't be more wasteful than a spinnning rotation of chakra. Considering the latter is great display of chakra control usage too.

I never said you were being biased.

Well, condensed chakra is----

Hold on a moment.

Behind all of your posts pertinent to this, what are you trying to imply?


Because I've already proven Neji's ability to negate Lee's Gate attacks:

"I've already proven Neji's ability to negate the force of Gate attacks with Rotation.
I'll repeat myself once more.


Neji, when he RECENTLY learned Rotation, used it to guard against a STRONGER VERSION OF THE 9 TAIL'S POWER THAN THAT OF USED AGAINST HAKU, and with PREMATURE EXECUTION, ENTIRELY PROTECTED HIMSELF.

LATER, he had NEARLY MASTERED THE TECHNIQUE, so obviously if he DID NOT HOLD BACK, he'd be able to deflect the arrow.

NOW, in the SHIPPUDEN, he's mastered the technique, and is able to use it multiple times without tiring, proven by the manga chapter which includes his fight with his clone."

[321zigzag3]

Well, condensed chakra is----

Hold on a moment.

Behind all of your posts pertinent to this, what are you trying to imply?

High speed spinning makes it condensed so I don't get what you are saying.

I only posted because of this.

He didn't have enough chakra to use Rotation, which is why he did that, yes.


Because I've already proven Neji's ability to negate Lee's Gate attacks:


If you are going by Part 2 then that is cetainly lot more believable.

[Morning Tiger:0]

High speed spinning makes it condensed so I don't get what you are saying.

I only posted because of this.





If you are going by Part 2 then that is cetainly lot more believable.


Yes, it has been established, that I indeed am presenting the sparring match from Part Two.
(Although I do believe Neji had the ability to neagte Lee's gate attacks later on in Part 1, perhaps when he fought Kidomaru, only because, as repeated, he'd further hieghtened
Rotation's ability.)

[321zigzag3]

Yes, it has been established, that I indeed am presenting the sparring match from Part Two.
(Although I do believe Neji had the ability to neagte Lee's gate attacks later on in Part 1, perhaps when he fought Kidomaru, only because, as repeated, he'd further hieghtened its ability.)

Part 1 is debatable but the more problem is how well Neji reacts to Gated Lee in Part 1 varying on the distance and etc.

It took Kakashi with sharingan to try to track Gated Lee.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Part 1 is debatable but the more problem is how well Neji reacts to Gated Lee in Part 1 varying on the distance and etc.

It took Kakashi with sharingan to try to track Gated Lee.

And Neji activated his Byakugan at the same moment, in the manga, I believe.

I stated this before...
He indeed was intimidated, but he wasn't...panicking, lol, in which case I would agree; he most likely wouldn't have the ability to react to Gate attacks(if he panicked, just being clear)

[321zigzag3]

And Neji activated his Byakugan at the same moment, in the manga, I believe.

I stated this before...
He indeed was intimidated, but he wasn't...panicking, lol, in which case I would agree; he most likely wouldn't have the ability to react to Gate attacks(if he panicked, just being clear)
Yes he did because Neji wanted to at least roughly cover the entire thing.

Although I should say Sarutobi and Gai and Kakashi and elite jounin to kage level was able to track Gated Lee roughly.


Of course Neji wouldn't panic. It is in his nature to not. He is too cool and calm for that. Now notice this is Neji at a distance.

Being in battle is much different too.


Anyway thats all I am saying and this is part 1.


I still await for Part 2 showing of Neji.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Yes he did because Neji wanted to at least roughly cover the entire thing.

Although I should say Sarutobi and Gai and Kakashi and elite jounin to kage level was able to track Gated Lee roughly.


Of course Neji wouldn't panic. It is in his nature to not. He is too cool and calm for that. Now notice this is Neji at a distance.

Being in battle is much different too.


Anyway thats all I am saying and this is part 1.


I still await for Part 2 showing of Neji.

We can only go by those who tried to track Lee, not those who merely were watching.

And, Neji was not a distance...literally...he was maybe twenty feet away. It was not such a huge room.

More or less, he activated his Bykugan, and was able to track Lee's movement, because he didn't say,"Oh sh*t, my Byakugan can't even track him," which is something he would say, because he readily admitted he couldn't distinguish the clones from eachother when he fough
Naruto, quote on quote, "not even with my(his) Bykugan."


At any rate.

This is part two.

Neji's mastered Rotation.
His reflexes obviously improved.
He can easily track Lee's speed.
If not entirely, he can use Rotation.

[321zigzag3]

We can only go by those who tried to track Lee, not those who merely were watching.

yes and Kakashi goes there obviously but Gai was able to as well


And, Neji was not a distance...literally...he was maybe twenty feet away. It was not such a huge room.

Yes it was huge room. Look again. Distance as in several meters in height and distance.

More or less, he activated his Bykugan, and was able to track Lee's movement, because he didn't say,"Oh sh*t, my Byakugan can't even track him," which is something he would say, because he readily admitted he couldn't distinguish the clones from eachother when he fough
Naruto, quote on quote, "not even with my(his) Bykugan."

The thing is Byakugan allows 360 degrees. So it helps. Anyway Neji was surprised still.


At any rate.

This is part two.

Neji's mastered Rotation.
His reflexes obviously improved.
He can easily track Lee's speed.
If not entirely, he can use Rotation.

Yes
Yes
Probably, depends how much he improved in Gates though.
Yes.

[Morning Tiger:0]

yes and Kakashi goes there obviously but Gai was able to as well




Yes it was huge room. Look again. Distance as in several meters in height and distance.



The thing is Byakugan allows 360 degrees. So it helps. Anyway Neji was surprised still.



Yes
Yes
Probably, depends how much he improved in Gates though.
Yes.


I'm glad you understand now.
Neji is victorious.

[321zigzag3]

Well all those reasons I stated are why I always stuck to original sentiment about this match.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Well all those reasons I stated are why I always stuck to original sentiment about this match.


Whatever that means.

I'm simply glad you've accepted my proof at this point.


Perhaps in some other universe, Lee would win.

[321zigzag3]

Actually what you stated was something I roughly have accepted a while back.

Anyway Gates or bust.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Actually what you stated was something I roughly have accepted a while back.

Anyway Gates or bust.


Neji wins, as I've proven, but, at this point, it seems you've only been patronzing my effort.

Doesn't matter.

Proof> "Gates or bust."

[Kuromaki]

It's nowhere near a stomp, not even close. But Neji could beat Lee in base.

Gates are Lee's only chance to win.

[321zigzag3]

I wasn't patronizing. I was only arguing of the whole Neji vs Kidomaru thing. I have not argued with on gates or what not.

[Morning Tiger:0]

I wasn't patronizing. I was only arguing of the whole Neji vs Kidomaru thing. I have not argued with on gates or what not.
Alright, whatever. Repeating myself multiple times shouldn't have been necessary, though. Read the whole thread before you join, please...
It's nowhere near a stomp, not even close. But Neji could beat Lee in base.

Gates are Lee's only chance to win.

If Lee takes a direct Jyuuken, it's indeed "a stomp."

If not, then it's not.

[Bacon]

He was tattered and torn by Kidomaru. He had absolutely no defense to his rotating arrows. Rotation was too weak. I'm guessing that Lee's punches are much stronger than those arrows.

Yes. I think the current story is rather blunt, but it'll pick up.
You do realize that Kidomaru's web which can be hardened and used in many different shapes and forms employ chakra within them? The reason Rotation failed in the end is the existing chakra within Kido's webs cancelled out Neji's Rotation.

[Morning Tiger:0]

You do realize that Kidomaru's web which can be hardened and used in many different shapes and forms employ chakra within them? The reason Rotation failed in the end is the existing chakra within Kido's webs cancelled out Neji's Rotation.


That apllied to the spiders' webs that had entagled Neji's Rotation, which neautralized its kinetic energy with the enrgy(chakra) within itself, thus halting Neji's movement.

It does not apply to Kidomaru's solid weaponry, which is easily deflected by Rotation.

The Rotation failed in the begining, lol.
He simply wasn't able to employ it towards the heat of the battle due to his lack of chakra.

[Bacon]

That apllied to the spiders' webs that had entagled Neji's Rotation, which neautralized its kinetic energy with the enrgy(chakra) within itself, thus halting Neji's movement.

It does not apply to Kidomaru's solid weaponry, which is easily deflected by Rotation.

The Rotation failed in the begining, lol.
He simply wasn't able to employ it towards the heat of the battle due to his lack of chakra.
Give me a break, it's been years since I watched it. Dx

:lol: I don't think Kishi went that far to employ kinetic energy, it was simply a matter of chakra canceling out other chakras.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Give me a break, it's been years since I watched it. Dx

:lol: I don't think Kishi went that far to employ kinetic energy, it was simply a matter of chakra canceling out other chakras.

Lol, I wasn't antagonnizing you.

And, that's what I said, only differently.

(And P.S, physcial movement is kinetic energy.)
xD

[Bacon]

What you seem to have implied is that any old material wrapped around the area of his rotation could stop entangle him. :/

Kinetic energy, it's been 4 years since I took a psychics. I only have a general idea of what it is.:3

[Morning Tiger:0]

What you seem to have implied is that any old material wrapped around the area of his rotation could stop entangle him. :/

Kinetic energy, it's been 4 years since I took a psychics. I only have a general idea of what it is.:3


I only implied the soft webbing was only capable of stopping his Rotation.

[mikeiskewl922]

You do realize that Kidomaru's web which can be hardened and used in many different shapes and forms employ chakra within them? The reason Rotation failed in the end is the existing chakra within Kido's webs cancelled out Neji's Rotation.

I think what happened was the webs wrapped around him while he was rotating, then when he stopped, the webs were surrounding him and ended up tieing him up...
^Fail of speeling, i know.

[tyrell4life194]

Neji vs Lee.
Neji stomps.







1) Rotation guards against all Gate attacks(and obviously regular taijutsu as well) as Neji has proven its execution timing to reside within a range of "fraction of a second" to "instantaneous.
Manga proof:
You must be wanking hard if you think Neji can stomp Lee. Do you have any proof that Neji can keep up with Lee, let alone hand a hit on him?

[Bacon]

I think what happened was the webs wrapped around him while he was rotating, then when he stopped, the webs were surrounding him and ended up tieing him up...
^Fail of speeling, i know.
Any normal object would be rejected by the Rotation. It was the chakra within the webs that did the trick. :/

[mikeiskewl922]

You must be wanking hard if you think Neji can stomp Lee. Do you have any proof that Neji can keep up with Lee, let alone hand a hit on him?

You really should read the WHOLE thread before you ost. If you did, then check this match in the BG Graveyard and read those posts.

Any normal object would be rejected by the Rotation. It was the chakra within the webs that did the trick. :/

I know, i meant that the webs didnt actully stop his movement. He stopped and he didnt see the webs surrounding the Rotation andd when he stopped, the entangled him..

[Bacon]

The only reason they could entangle him and withstand the power of the Neji's rotation is because of the chakra. Has someone thrown 2 ton chains on him during the defensive move, they would have been rejected and destroyed. :/ The chakra cancelled out the energy needed to perform the technique.

[tyrell4life194]

You really should read the WHOLE thread before you ost. If you did, then check this match in the BG Graveyard and read those posts.



I know, i meant that the webs didnt actully stop his movement. He stopped and he didnt see the webs surrounding the Rotation andd when he stopped, the entangled him..
Sorry my dumbass for a bro stole my account, and made up nonsense about Lee vs Neji. I hope there was no misunderstanding, I'll deal with him.

[Morning Tiger:0]

You must be wanking hard if you think Neji can stomp Lee. Do you have any proof that Neji can keep up with Lee, let alone hand a hit on him?


Back off, lee-wanker.

I've already proven everything.

[tyrell4life194]

Back off, lee-wanker.

I've already proven everything.
Hmm, I guess you didn't read my whole post, when I stated that my dumbass brother stole my account huh?

[Steven]

1) He did.

2) He couldn't fully execute the technique due to 'plot no jutsu;' his feet became magically adhered to the earth as Naruto was ranting at him.

There you are. :)
Neji stomps anyway, due to Gentle Fist, which Lee can only counter while in Gates State, which Neji can prevent. Enough supporting Lee...it has become beyond hopeless.

No the rotation was stopped by naruto, Neji was unable to spin making the Rotation useless.

Lee's speed was far greater than naruto during the chunin exams.

if Lee goes 5th gate Neji wont have time to react with Rotation.

[tyrell4life194]

No the rotation was stopped by naruto, Neji was unable to spin making the Rotation useless.

Lee's speed was far greater than naruto during the chunin exams.

if Lee goes 5th gate Neji wont have time to react with Rotation.
Wait the rotation was stopped by Naruto?

Lee's speed was far greater than Naruto's but lets just focus on Neji vs Lee here.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Hmm, I guess you didn't read my whole post, when I stated that my dumbass brother stole my account huh?
I posted prior to your clarification. Sorry.
No the rotation was stopped by naruto, Neji was unable to spin making the Rotation useless.

Lee's speed was far greater than naruto during the chunin exams.

if Lee goes 5th gate Neji wont have time to react with Rotation.

Um, yeah. He didn't spin, but still deflected Naruto's attack, which only suggests that the fully-executed Rotation is several times stronger. Not to mention, Neji had just learned Rotation at that time, so even further its strength is suggested.

Thanks for further proving my point, lol.

Wait the rotation was stopped by Naruto?

Lee's speed was far greater than Naruto's but lets just focus on Neji vs Lee here.

No.
Neji did not Rotate to begin with, yet Neji still protected himself.

[tyrell4life194]

I posted prior to your clarification. Sorry.


Um, yeah. He didn't spin, but still deflected Naruto's attack, which only suggests that the fully-executed Rotation is several times stronger. Not to mention, Neji had just learned Rotation at that time, so even further its strength is suggested.

Thanks for further proving my point, lol.



No.
Neji did not Rotate to begin with, yet Neji still protected himself.
But lets not forget that the Rotation drains Neji's chakra, and even though it's highly defensive, it can only be used so many times, and he can obtain it for so long.

[Morning Tiger:0]

But lets not forget that the Rotation drains Neji's chakra, and even though it's highly defensive, it can only be used so many times, and he can obtain it for so long.



That was irrelevant to my point...

At any rate, it was before, such as Neji's fight with Kidomaru.

However, in the manga of Part Two, Neji demonstrated to use the technique multiple times without tiring when fighting is clone.

[tyrell4life194]

That was irrelevant to my point...

At any rate, it was before, such as Neji's fight with Kidomaru.

However, in the manga of Part Two, Neji demonstrated to use the technique multiple times without tiring when fighting is clone.
No, I believe Neji was tiring, but I can't be so sure, my memory is somewhat vague. But any jutsu can drain chakra, it doesn't matter if Neji was tiring or not, his chakra was still being drained. And by the power of Rotation, I believe a good set of his chakra was drained.

[Morning Tiger:0]

No, I believe Neji was tiring, but I can't be so sure, my memory is somewhat vague. But any jutsu can drain chakra, it doesn't matter if Neji was tiring or not, his chakra was still being drained. And by the power of Rotation, I believe a good set of his chakra was drained.

You just contradicted your point.

You claim Neji's jutsu excessively drains chakra, then you claim any jutsu excessively drains chakra.

Anyway, regardless of the chakra drained, Neji had become more efficient with its use by part two, once again, as proven by his fight with the clone.

[tyrell4life194]

You just contradicted your point.

You claim Neji's jutsu excessively drains chakra, then you claim any jutsu excessively drains chakra.

Anyway, regardless of the chakra drained, Neji had become more efficient with its use by part two, once again, as proven by his fight with the clone.
That isn't contradiction genius, that's my point, any jutsu can drain chakra, and Neji's jutsu drained his own chakra DUR. That isn't contradiction, that's FACT.

We all know that. No need to tell us the third time bro.

[Morning Tiger:0]

That isn't contradiction genius, that's my point, any jutsu can drain chakra, and Neji's jutsu drained his own chakra DUR. That isn't contradiction, that's FACT.

We all know that. No need to tell us the third time bro.


It's not my fault. You first singled out Neji's techniques, then widened what you were referring to.

Just remain consistent.

Anyway, it was fact. But now it's not. Third time saying it.

(And, caaaaaalm.)

[Bacon]

No the rotation was stopped by naruto, Neji was unable to spin making the Rotation useless.

Lee's speed was far greater than naruto during the chunin exams.

if Lee goes 5th gate Neji wont have time to react with Rotation.
Correction: The Kyuubi's chakra collided with the Rotation. Naruto would have been dead if it was not a clone that had delivered that strike.

[tyrell4life194]

It's not my fault. You first singled out Neji's techniques, then widened what you were referring to.

Just remain consistent.

Anyway, it was fact. But now it's not. Third time saying it.

(And, caaaaaalm.)
Wrong again, I used Neji's Technique as an example of him draining his chakra, which is why I included the statement about any type of jutsu draining chakra.

Wrong again, it's fact, unless you have proof that it isn't from the manga.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Wrong again, I used Neji's Technique as an example of him draining his chakra, which is why I included the statement about any type of jutsu draining chakra.

Wrong again, it's fact, unless you have proof that it isn't from the manga.

It was merely a misunderstanding provided you're being honest, so grow up and calm down.

Mannga is proof. It's the original plot. You've got to be joking...

You're point only applies to part one. Sorry.
Correction: The Kyuubi's chakra collided with the Rotation. Naruto would have been dead if it was not a clone that had delivered that strike.

I'm qutie sure it wasn't a clone.
The clone on the ground was a distraction, while Naruto dug in the earth to that point.

I believe that's what had happened...

Unless Naruto buried himself beforehand and sent a clone with Kyubi chakra to attack Neji...but when?

[tyrell4life194]

It was merely a misunderstanding provided you're being honest, so grow up and calm down.

Mannga is proof. It's the original plot. You've got to be joking...

You're point only applies to part one. Sorry.


I'm qutie sure it wasn't a clone.
The clone on the ground was a distraction, while Naruto dug in the earth to that point.

I believe that's what had happened...

Unless Naruto buried himself beforehand and sent a clone with Kyubi chakra to attack Neji...but when?
My point actually applies to both part one and part two. Nice try, you failed to comprehend my comments. Neji was clearly tired when he was using his rotation for a long duration of time when he was fighting his clone.

That's why I said to prove to me that jutsu doesn't drain chakra. I know Manga is proof, it's the only thing canon in Anime.

[Morning Tiger:0]

My point actually applies to both part one and part two. Nice try, you failed to comprehend my comments. Neji was clearly tired when he was using his rotation for a long duration of time when he was fighting his clone.

That's why I said to prove to me that jutsu doesn't drain chakra. I know Manga is proof, it's the only thing canon in Anime.


Um, actually, you never even said he'd been tired from use of the technique in part two.
Now you're just improvising.

But anyway, he wasn't. Not at all.
Unless you've got the chapter and page number in which he'd stated his exhaustion, or stopped using Rotation for that reason, or collapsed.

Sorry, you're wrong.
Your point only applies to part one.

Keep it up.

[Bacon]

It was merely a misunderstanding provided you're being honest, so grow up and calm down.

Mannga is proof. It's the original plot. You've got to be joking...

You're point only applies to part one. Sorry.


I'm qutie sure it wasn't a clone.
The clone on the ground was a distraction, while Naruto dug in the earth to that point.

I believe that's what had happened...

Unless Naruto buried himself beforehand and sent a clone with Kyubi chakra to attack Neji...but when?
Twas a clone my good man. The kyuubi's chakra was coursing through him when it collided with the rotation. Ten ten even states that his rotation sends the attack power of his opponent's chakra back at his adversary. :/

[Morning Tiger:0]

Twas a clone my good man. The kyuubi's chakra was coursing through him when it collided with the rotation. Ten ten even states that his rotation sends the attack power of his opponent's chakra back at his adversary. :/
She indeed states that...

But now I'm unsure. When did Naruto bury himself- before 'he' attacked Neji or after?

[Bacon]

To be honest, it's confusing to me. All that power would have left Naruto in critical condition if it was sent back at him. :/

[tyrell4life194]

Um, actually, you never even said he'd been tired from use of the technique in part two.
Now you're just improvising.

But anyway, he wasn't. Not at all.
Unless you've got the chapter and page number in which he'd stated his exhaustion, or stopped using Rotation for that reason, or collapsed.

Sorry, you're wrong.
Your point only applies to part one.

Keep it up.
Dammit, what did my bro said to you? I was just having a friendly debate with you, when he spreads ;);););););););) again. Dammit, he's trying to ruin my rep.

[Morning Tiger:0]

To be honest, it's confusing to me. All that power would have left Naruto in critical condition if it was sent back at him. :/


According to the manga, Naruto charged at Neji, and when he was blasted into the ground from the Rotation, (so you are partially correct, it backfired on Naruto and nearly killed him) he created a clone as a deception, and dug into the ground. As Neji slowly approached the clone, Naruto jad been digging to the same area, and launched himself from the surface.

Edit, @ Tyrel:
No...problem...

[tyrell4life194]

According to the manga, Naruto charged at Neji, and when he was blasted into the ground from the Rotation, (so you are partially correct, it backfired on Naruto and nearly killed him) he created a clone as a deception, and dug into the ground. As Neji slowly approached the clone, Naruto jad been digging to the same area, and launched himself from the surface.

Edit, @ Tyrel:
No...problem...
Yes my bad bro, so Naruto was bashed by his rotation, and nearly died right? Then he used a shadow clone to destract Neji, long enough to land a finishing punch on Neji's chin, knocking him down right?

[Morning Tiger:0]

Yes my bad bro, so Naruto was bashed by his rotation, and nearly died right? Then he used a shadow clone to destract Neji, long enough to land a finishing punch on Neji's chin, knocking him down right?


Yes, he used the clone as a distraction, and dug to Neji's location.
Then punched him in the face. -_-

[tyrell4life194]

Yes, he used the clone as a distraction, and dug to Neji's location.
Then punched him in the face. -_-
Did you think that battle was PNJ?

[Morning Tiger:0]

Did you think that battle was PNJ?

Most definetely...

Neji had patronized Naruto the entire time, and underestamated him as well.

Also, there's no logical reason as to why Neji didn't spin and fully execute his Rotation, as Naruto was moving relatively slowly from a large distance.
If he had Rotated, Naeuro would have lost.

So yeah....it's annyoing. xD

[tyrell4life194]

Most definetely...

Neji had patronized Naruto the entire time, and underestamated him as well.

Also, there's no logical reason as to why Neji didn't spin and fully execute his Rotation, as Naruto was moving relatively slowly from a large distance.
If he had Rotated, Naeuro would have lost.

So yeah....it's annyoing. xD
That's why I don't like PNJ or Plotkai. Ichigo and Naruto somehow manages to defeat their opponents.

Well how about now? Do you think base Naruto is stronger than Neji now?

[Morning Tiger:0]

That's why I don't like PNJ or Plotkai. Ichigo and Naruto somehow manages to defeat their opponents.

Well how about now? Do you think base Naruto is stronger than Neji now?
Well, it's debatable.



Due to his Gentle Fist and superior speed, he can prevent all of Naruto's techniques including Sage Mode itself...

And he could probably defend against Kyubi Naruto, due to the fact that it's relatively slow, but it is predominately uncertain for how long...
However, Naruto cannot maintain that form for long...

In the DB, Neji's total strength number is higher than Naruto's...

Due to the exceedingly likely possibily of Naruto's inner power losing control, I'd say such a battle would result in a simple tie, as Neji would need most of his strength to defend against the Kyubi, and Naruto would most likely fall from the damage to his internal organs from the Gentle Fist dealt beforehand, and the Kyubi cloak which worsens in damage to the body over time.



Edit: Wait...does "base" refer to Naruto's original form? If so, then yes, without question, absolutely Neji's stronger, as Neji, with his superior speed and Gentle Fist, can prevent and negate all of Naruto's techniques including
Sage Mode.

[tyrell4life194]

Well, it's debatable.



Due to his Gentle Fist and superior speed, he can prevent all of Naruto's techniques including Sage Mode itself...

And he could probably defend against Kyubi Naruto, due to the fact that it's relatively slow, but it is predominately uncertain for how long...
However, Naruto cannot maintain that form for long...

In the DB, Neji's total strength number is higher than Naruto's...

Due to the exceedingly likely possibily of Naruto's inner power losing control, I'd say such a battle would result in a simple tie, as Neji would need most of his strength to defend against the Kyubi, and Naruto would most likely fall from the damage to his internal organs from the Gentle Fist dealt beforehand, and the Kyubi cloak which worsens in damage to the body over time.



Edit: Wait...does "base" refer to Naruto's original form? If so, then yes, without question, absolutely Neji's stronger, as Neji, with his superior speed and Gentle Fist, can prevent and negate all of Naruto's techniques including
Sage Mode.
Yes, Neji's stronger than base Naruto, but Sage Naruto? HELL NO. Sage Naruto speedblitz the asura path. Neji is NOWHERE near as fast as Naruto. Superior speed? Yeah, since when has he demonstrated "superior speed" that outclasses Sage Naruto? Sage Naruto lifted a 2025 ton rhino, fell 200+ feet into jagged rocks, without getting hurt, shattered stone with bitter ease, threw a rasenshuriken that crossed the chibaku tensei crater in seconds, anything else?

WRONG, Naruto has control over the kyuubi fox's power, it won't do any damage to him, its called the Rikudou mode now, so yeah.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Yes, Neji's stronger than base Naruto, but Sage Naruto? HELL NO. Sage Naruto speedblitz the asura path. Neji is NOWHERE near as fast as Naruto. Superior speed? Yeah, since when has he demonstrated "superior speed" that outclasses Sage Naruto? Sage Naruto lifted a 2025 ton rhino, fell 200+ feet into jagged rocks, without getting hurt, shattered stone with bitter ease, threw a rasenshuriken that crossed the chibaku tensei crater in seconds, anything else?

WRONG, Naruto has control over the kyuubi fox's power, it won't do any damage to him, its called the Rikudou mode now, so yeah.


Sage Mode required balance of energy, which is impossible with Jyuuken around.

Therefore my point remains.

[tyrell4life194]

Sage Mode required balance of energy, which is impossible with Jyuuken around.

Therefore my point remains.
Oh, so you think Naruto won't enter Sage Mode before the fight starts, just like Neji does?

Be logical here bro.

[Morning Tiger:0]

Oh, so you think Naruto won't enter Sage Mode before the fight starts, just like Neji does?

Be logical here bro.

Neji can negate it, as well.

Neji is already extremely superior to him in terms of speed, so if Naruto entered SM, he matches him.

Gentle Fist disturbs Naruto's balance of energy, disables Sm.

I'm being only logical, that guy's obvs frustriated.

[tyrell4life194]

Neji can negate it, as well.

Neji is already extremely superior to him in terms of speed, so if Naruto entered SM, he matches him.

Gentle Fist disturbs Naruto's balance of energy, disables Sm.

I'm being only logical, that guy's obvs frustriated.
OK, if Neji's superior to Naruto's speed, then show me proof that Neji's supersonic, or even speedblitz someone, just like Naruto did to Asura Path. Yes, the same Asura Path that kept up with Kakashi and everyone knows Kakashi is faster than Neji. Now give me a manga scan of Neji being supersonic please.

Oh really? Frog Kata kills opponents without touching him. Face it, Neji ain't doin crap to him.

[Morning Tiger:0]

OK, if Neji's superior to Naruto's speed, then show me proof that Neji's supersonic, or even speedblitz someone, just like Naruto did to Asura Path. Yes, the same Asura Path that kept up with Kakashi and everyone knows Kakashi is faster than Neji. Now give me a manga scan of Neji being supersonic please.

Oh really? Frog Kata kills opponents without touching him. Face it, Neji ain't doin crap to him.

Speedblitz= bs.
Kakashi's speed status is 4.5. Neji's is 4.5

Neji's equal to their speed, or faster.


Frog Kata? Lol.

Naruto cannot summon without proper chakra flow, which Neji would prevent.
He wouldn't even have his precious Rasengan techniques.

No, you stop imposing your opinion.

Sorry to disillusion you, but Neji's speed is 4.5.


(Additionally, 64 Palms easily can be classified as overwhelmingly quick.)

[tyrell4life194]

Speedblitz= bs.
Kakashi's speed status is 4.5. Neji's is 4.5

Neji's equal to their speed, or faster.


No, you stop imposing your opinion.

Sorry to disillusion you, but Neji's speed is 4.5.


(Additionally, 64 Palms easily can be classified as overwhelmingly quick.)
I'M SO PRETTY, OH SO PRETTYYYYYY.

[Morning Tiger:0]

I feel like laughing. You got this STD from the databook haven't you? Databooks are non canon idiot. They're full of hyperboles and piles of DERPS. One example. One databook that Kishimoto made, he said that Haku is light speed, due to his Ice Mirrors. Now we all know that's a bunch of bs, because if he was lightspeed, then Naruto would've easily been lightspeed, even though it took him five seconds just to catch up to the Deva Path.

It's not bs, it's in the manga wanktard, of Naruto speedblitzing and one shotting Asura path.

It's funny, just because Neji's speed is 4.5, that he's suddenly Sasuke's speed now, even though there isn't any feats to back up your statment, now is there? Use the damn manga.

Um, lol. Kishimoto fabricated the DB as a reference for the manga, statistical proof to lessen the multitude of misinterpretations- such as yours. The statistics I'm referring to are not hyperbole, they're-quite literally- numbers; statistics. So you're incorrect.
I was referring to the simplicity of the word itself. You honestly cannot conjuer up a more sophisticated term?
Um, actually....not one person in the series has ever deomnstrated anything close to Neji's 64 Palms. Silly teleportation is not my concern- I'm referring to the quickness of his strikes.
That would be using the manga.

You're prolly going to claim that it's not a blazningly fast technique, now.
Well I've got proof to back myself up, so go ahead.

You're so irritated- name-calling, general rudness...Well, allow me to inform you that I'm entirely calm, only due to the fact that I actually can prove my claims, which you obviously cannot.
So continue to name-call.
It only puts you at a disadvantage in the debate, as you're only succeeding in revealing the true extent of your knowledge of Naruto.