Rinnegan Evolution?Bloodlines?(spoilers)

[Maikeru Uchiha]

Okay, something has been bothering me.... Where does the sharingan and byakugan originate from? Well, let's start off with this:

- The SO6P(sage of six paths) had 2 sons.
- One had sharingan while the other didn't.
- Look at the Juubi's eye, it is a combo of rinnegan and sharingan
- Could this mean that The SO6P had genes of the Juubi? How else would his song get the sharingan?
- Could one of the genes along the SO6P's family opened up part of the rinnegan and made Byakugan?
- So basically the Juubi eye is a fusion of Rinnegan, Byakugan, and sharingan.
- If you take the rinnegan lines out, you find the byakugan, take out the byakugan and rinnegan, you see the sharingan, take out the sharingan and byakugan, you get rinnegan.
- Does this mean that the SO6P's sons carried genes from the Juubi and then awakened along the family tree?

Post your predictions here:!::!::!:

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[Maikeru Uchiha]

Bump of help me.

[zerosameri]

Ever heard of wiki?

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Ok Rikudo him self started the Uchiha, and Senju Blood line. And so Rikudo made the Sharingan. Hyuga came along later. The rumor is that byakugan made the Sharingan, or something like that.

Now Rikudo doesn't have the Sharingan, nor is he related to the Juubi by any means. Rikudo made the Sharingan and the 9 Bijus.

Rikudo didn't make the Juubi either.

Supposedly the Rinnegan made both Kekkei Genka.

So it's something like this
Rinnegan ---> byakugan ---> Sharingan ---> MS ---> EMS ---> Izangi (I think)

[Blind Uchiha]

Ever heard of wiki?

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Ok Rikudo him self started the Uchiha, and Senju Blood line. And so Rikudo made the Sharingan Hyuga came along later. The rumor is that byakugan made the Sharingan, or something like that.

Now Rikudo doesn't have the Sharingan, nor is he related to the Juubi by any means. Rikudo made the Sharingan and the 9 Bijus.

Rikudo didn't make the Juubi either.

Supposedly the Rinnegan both Kekkei Genka.

So it's something like this
Rinnegan ---> byakugan ---> Sharingan ---> MS ---> EMS ---> Izangi (I think)

Wut? Uchiha came directly from the Sage, so Byakugan is in a different genetic family entirely unless retconned.

[zerosameri]

Wut? Uchiha came directly from the Sage, so Byakugan is in a different genetic family entirely unless retconned.
I know. I didn't know were the Byakugan come from, that's why I said

The rumor is that byakugan made the Sharingan, or something like that.

And well the Hyuga's came from some were.. Senju's maybe?

[Ruto]

This is probably a random crazy idea, but what if, just what if, the byakugan was kind of like Choji's multi-size technique? In that it's focus is on body manipulation. They were just changing the composition of the eye in order to have extraordinary eye sight. Sure it would take away a lot of the specialty of it, but it makes more sense then trying to figure out where it came from with the whole Sot6P's thing. Though at the same time this would go completely against the whole sharingan evolved from the byakugan statement. Just an idea.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I know. I didn't know were the Byakugan come from, that's why I said



And well the Hyuga's came from some were.. Senju's maybe?

Hyuuga were just Hyuuga, not Senju.

[hnl]

I know this is an old thread, but...

The oldest son of Rikudo did not have a sharingan. He had a dōjutsu that looked more like the crest of Uzushiogakure.

The oldest son of Rikudo was an ancestors of the Uchiha clan, but was not part of the clan itself.
According to Kakashi the Uchiha and the Hyūga clans are related. Most likely the oldest son is both an ancestor of the Uchiha clan and the Hyūga clan.

The youngest son of Rikudo was an ancestor of the Senju clan, but was not part of the clan itself.
The Uzumaki clan is related to the Senju clan. Most likely the youngest son is both an ancestor of the Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan.

Nagato should according to Madara be a descendant of the Uzumaki clan. In the anime only his mother had the red Uzumaki hair, so his father was properly not an Uzumaki. According to Madara he "gave" Nagato his Rinnegan. The father of Nagato had black hair, so it is not impossible that he could unofficially be an Uchiha (could be a son of Madara).

It is not impossible that one would need to inherit genes from both the sons of Rikudo, to be able to get the rinnegan (naturally).

If the above is correct, could the following combinations result in the rinnegan (if they are lucky with the genes):
Uchiha x Senju
Uchiha x Uzumaki
Hyūga x Senju
Hyūga x Uzumaki

Just a few of my thoughts about rinnegan ;)

[Yin-yang release sannin]

I find out somewhere can't remember that the sharingan originates from byakugan
Timeline_____
Rinnagan. - oldest
Byakugan
Sharingan. - youngest
MS & EMS (upgrades)

[hnl]

I find out somewhere can't remember that the sharingan originates from byakugan
Timeline_____
Rinnagan. - oldest
Byakugan
Sharingan. - youngest
MS & EMS (upgrades)
Check chapter 78 of the manga (part I) or episode 46 of the anime (Naruto)

[EvL j3st3r]

Check chapter 78 of the manga (part I) or episode 46 of the anime (Naruto)
I assume your referring to Kakashi's statement (hence I didn't check your referrence)? But in the manga he said it in this manner, "It is rumored". So with that, Kishi left himself enough room to use it or not use it. I think he wanted to leave himself plenty of options at that point.

My theory is similar to the OP. Uchiha and Hyuuga both derive from elder son. Byakugan deriving from Rinnegan, Sharingan deriving from the 9 tomoe Sharingan (Juubi's original eye). I posted a more detailed theory on this in the past.

[hnl]

I assume your referring to Kakashi's statement (hence I didn't check your referrence)? But in the manga he said it in this manner, "It is rumored". So with that, Kishi left himself enough room to use it or not use it. I think he wanted to leave himself plenty of options at that point.

My theory is similar to the OP. Uchiha and Hyuuga both derive from elder son. Byakugan deriving from Rinnegan, Sharingan deriving from the 9 tomoe Sharingan (Juubi's original eye). I posted a more detailed theory on this in the past.
Remember that the images we have of Juubi are all from Maderas interpretation of how he thinks that it should look.
There are other parts of the Naruto story that changes when we hear them from different perople.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

I know this is an old thread, but...

The oldest son of Rikudo did not have a sharingan. He had a dōjutsu that looked more like the crest of Uzushiogakure.

The oldest son of Rikudo was an ancestors of the Uchiha clan, but was not part of the clan itself.
According to Kakashi the Uchiha and the Hyūga clans are related. Most likely the oldest son is both an ancestor of the Uchiha clan and the Hyūga clan.

The youngest son of Rikudo was an ancestor of the Senju clan, but was not part of the clan itself.
The Uzumaki clan is related to the Senju clan. Most likely the youngest son is both an ancestor of the Senju clan and the Uzumaki clan.

Nagato should according to Madara be a descendant of the Uzumaki clan. In the anime only his mother had the red Uzumaki hair, so his father was properly not an Uzumaki. According to Madara he "gave" Nagato his Rinnegan. The father of Nagato had black hair, so it is not impossible that he could unofficially be an Uchiha (could be a son of Madara).

It is not impossible that one would need to inherit genes from both the sons of Rikudo, to be able to get the rinnegan (naturally).

If the above is correct, could the following combinations result in the rinnegan (if they are lucky with the genes):
Uchiha x Senju
Uchiha x Uzumaki
Hyūga x Senju
Hyūga x Uzumaki

Just a few of my thoughts about rinnegan ;)
Or Madara is Nagato's father `:P

[EvL j3st3r]

Remember that the images we have of Juubi are all from Maderas interpretation of how he thinks that it should look.
There are other parts of the Naruto story that changes when we hear them from different perople.
The image we've seen of the Juubi does not portray it to simply have a 9 tomoe Sharingan.That's my own analysis. In the image Madara gives us, it appears to have the "Sharrinnegan".

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Or Madara is Nagato's father `:P
I don't think Madara would lose vs. those normal Konoha ninjas? or maybe that father of Nagato was just false, cause maybe Madara had left from Amegakure and left Nagato without a father so his mum had to find a new man.. who knows

[hnl]

I don't think Madara would lose vs. those normal Konoha ninjas? or maybe that father of Nagato was just false, cause maybe Madara had left from Amegakure and left Nagato without a father so his mum had to find a new man.. who knows
Madara could have been the postman in the surrounding villages... noone has told that it was Nagatos biological father who died when Nagato killed the Ninjas.

[White Zetsu]

kishi sorta contradicted himself with this, because originally, he said that Hyuuga (Byakugan) were descended from the Senju, but that Byakugan may have evolved from the Sharingan. That means A. either an Uchiha and a Senju intermarried, which is weird since they have a common ancestor, or B. that kishi changed his mind. ok, now the Uzamakis descended from the Senju, and Nagato (Uzumaki) had the Rinnegan. So either A. if you were descended from rikiudo Sennin, you may get Rinnegan, or B. that Rinnegan was just a Genetic Mutation, like Kakashi hypothesized if its A. then there is a chance that if you are Hyuuga, Senju, Uchiha, or Uzumaki, you may get the Rinnegan. so theres one theory on how Madara got the Rinnegan, heres the 2nd. Since Uchiha and Senju are the two direct Clans from Rikiudo Sennin, combining their DNA will maybe give you Rinnegan, if you have EMS already.