View Full Version : Team Guy Vs. Hidan and Kakuzu
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 02:56 PM
Who would win, Team Guy Vs. Hidan and Kakuzu? One of the best Ninja squads in the leaf, or one of the best tag teams of the Akatsuki?
Rules:
Guy and Lee has NO restrictions on Eight Gates
Life or death fight
Location: Open Field, 15ft away from eachother (Changed to 30ft, due do complaints)
To be more detailed, Team Guy formation: Guy in front, Lee to the left, Neji Right, and Tenten in the back. All spaced 5ft away from eachother in a diamond shaped format
Note: Try to keep every point you make provable. It'll help to keep assumptions limited.
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 02:57 PM
Gai Morning Tigers the crap out of them.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 02:59 PM
15 feet? The heck?
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 03:02 PM
i was thinking the same thing lol
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 03:02 PM
15 feet? The heck? Yes 15ft. Both Teams would have and equal advantage at this distance.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 03:05 PM
honestly.. it can go either way then.. in that case it should be based on who's faster in base mode.. because 15 is very close, even for an average person
Raiton:Gian_Kakuzu
09-13-2010, 03:07 PM
if gai and kakashi are equal and hidan could take kakashi on with one of kakuzus hearts than team kakuzu wins this because ten ten is useless against wind style and neji i doubt would touch em
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 03:08 PM
if gai and kakashi are equal and hidan could take kakashi on with one of kakuzus hearts than team kakuzu wins this because ten ten is useless against wind style and neji i doubt would touch em
problem is their's no prof that base guy is even anywhere near kakashi's speed. nothing i looked for it.
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 03:18 PM
Hard thread , and very debatable in every way , but i will go with kakuzo and haiden , because they have very hight durability , i think the only thing that can kill kakuzo is afternoon tiger , and i dupt gai can do that b4 he got killed .
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 03:20 PM
hidan is faster the base guy.. bloodlusted, he'll definantly try to use his curse
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 03:28 PM
Bloodlusted Hidan would go straight for the kill rather than wasting time with a lengthy and pointless ritual that can be interupted with ease.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 03:42 PM
Hard thread , and very debatable in every way , but i will go with kakuzo and haiden , because they have very hight durability , i think the only thing that can kill kakuzo is afternoon tiger , and i dupt gai can do that b4 he got killed . Remember, we still have Rock Lee who is also a Gate user. Two Gate users vs Kakuzu would be a little overwhelming don't you think? Neji and Tenten vs Hidan would buy some time until Guy and Lee are eventually finished with Kakuzu. I really can't see Kakuzu coming out of that one, can you? Guy also has never taken taken off his weights before, and it would be safe to assume that he's very fast. That alone should be a big factor of this fight.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 03:47 PM
This between
Kakuzu threads kills first vs Gates
Then again this is bloodlusted and if they are binded Gates usage increase especially if bind.
Gai is a heavy threat. The only thing protecting Kakuzu from Gai is the Doton: Domu and that is ambiguous.
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 03:49 PM
gai morning tigers the crap out of them.
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bloodlusted hidan would go straight for the kill rather than wasting time with a lengthy and pointless ritual that can be interupted with ease.
how irony in ur words :!:
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 03:51 PM
how irony in ur words :!:
You must be that eager to prove Dudemeister wrong when he wasn't even contradicting himself.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:02 PM
Bloodlusted Hidan would go straight for the kill rather than wasting time with a lengthy and pointless ritual that can be interupted with ease. Hmph, I wonder who Hidan is going to kill? He wouldn't kill Guy or Lee because he can't touch them. He would NEVER touch Neji, but it's possible if he got to Tenten. Even that, he wouldn't be able to do the ritual of course because this is a team that will keep you on your toes.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:05 PM
Hmph, I wonder who Hidan is going to kill? He wouldn't kill Guy or Lee because he can't touch them. He would NEVER touch Neji, but it's possible if he got to Tenten. Even that, he wouldn't be able to do the ritual of course because this is a team that will keep you on your toes.
He already said he thinks Gai soloes with Morning Peacock.
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 04:06 PM
remember, we still have rock lee who is also a gate user. Two gate users vs kakuzu would be a little overwhelming don't you think? Neji and tenten vs hidan would buy some time until guy and lee are eventually finished with kakuzu. I really can't see kakuzu coming out of that one, can you? Guy also has never taken taken off his weights before, and it would be safe to assume that he's very fast. That alone should be a big factor of this fight.
gated lee cant take any one of them
gai can , but how fast he can activate his gates ?
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 04:07 PM
you must be that eager to prove dudemeister wrong when he wasn't even contradicting himself.
did u figure that by your self?
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:08 PM
He can do it quite fast. He can access it up to it quite nearly instantly.
J-Sun Tasogare
09-13-2010, 04:10 PM
Lucky Kakashi if you aren't going to post anything relevant to the debate do not post at all, this is your only verbal warning, next time you will receive an infraction.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 04:11 PM
with a starting distance of 15 meters, its up to who does what first.. kakuzu is fast aswell as hidan. opening the gates at the start of the battle wouldnt be a good idea considering that hidan and kakuzu are much faster then tenten neji. so those two dies while lee and guy dodge.. kakuzu realeses his heart while hidan distracts lee and guy. from then on i see spammage of elemental attack.. even if hidan is in the battlefield
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 04:12 PM
Once the Gates are open there's no way Hidan and Kakuzu can win.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:12 PM
I have already stated mine for this thread. Either Kakuzu uses threads to win at close range or Gai with gates. But thats too simple for all scenarios.
did u figure that by your self?
Its called stating the obvious.
What he do to you?
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:13 PM
gated lee cant take any one of them
gai can , but how fast he can activate his gates ? Gated Lee can't take out any of them? Why not?
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 04:19 PM
what he do to you?
i can do long list .
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:19 PM
with a starting distance of 15 meters, its up to who does what first.. kakuzu is fast aswell as hidan. opening the gates at the start of the battle wouldnt be a good idea considering that hidan and kakuzu are much faster then tenten neji. so those two dies while lee and guy dodge.. kakuzu realeses his heart while hidan distracts lee and guy. from then on i see spammage of elemental attack.. even if hidan is in the battlefield Please explain how Neji and Tenten would die so quickly? Remember Neji has lighting fast reflexes and a palm rotation to fend the off. Tenten could evade while attacking at the same time. These are no ordinary ninja.
LUCKY.KAKASHI
09-13-2010, 04:20 PM
gated lee can't take out any of them? Why not?
lee don't have any attack that can take some one with the durability of those two .
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:25 PM
lee don't have any attack that can take some one with the durability of those two . If not, do you at least think he'd do some serious damage nonetheless?
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 04:25 PM
Kakuzu is the only one with superdurability. Hidan is as durable as anyone else. He's just impossible to kill, but if Lee just punches him until all his bones are broken then he's out of the fight.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 04:28 PM
Please explain how Neji and Tenten would die so quickly? Remember Neji has lighting fast reflexes and a palm rotation to fend the off. Tenten could evade while attacking at the same time. These are no ordinary ninja.
do u remember when choji was down and kakuzu easily went from point A to point B to get to choji. it was most likely further then 15 feets.. kakuzu does the same thing with neji and tenten since they havent shown any feats that suggest theyre fast enough to evade something as fast as that
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:30 PM
Kakuzu is the only one with superdurability. Hidan is as durable as anyone else. He's just impossible to kill, but if Lee just punches him until all his bones are broken then he's out of the fight.
Hidan survived Wind Release: Pressure Damage with no effects.
do u remember when choji was down and kakuzu easily went from point A to point B to get to choji. it was most likely further then 15 feets.. kakuzu does the same thing with neji and tenten since they havent shown any feats that suggest theyre fast enough to evade something as fast as that
That was Anime Filler.
You could use Kakuzu blitzing Kakashi and from the ground next to him and kicked Kakashi to a dead tree. Kakashi was about to use Raikiri rush at Hidan immobilied.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 04:35 PM
Hidan survived Wind Release: Pressure Damage with no effects.
That was Anime Filler.
You could use Kakuzu blitzing Kakashi and from the ground next to him and kicked Kakashi to a dead tree. Kakashi was about to use Raikiri rush at Hidan immobilied.
i thought about that part but i really didnt even see where kakuzu was coming from..
Slack 40
09-13-2010, 04:37 PM
Please explain how Neji and Tenten would die so quickly? Remember Neji has lighting fast reflexes and a palm rotation to fend the off. Tenten could evade while attacking at the same time. These are no ordinary ninja.
http://files.sharenator.com/jesus_facepalm_facepalm_jesus_epic_demotivational_ poster_1218659828_Facepalm_collection-s640x682-82175-580.jpg
Neji and Tenten are fodder. Tenten is arguably easily the weakest of the original genin 11 plus sai. Tenten's only feat is being able to make a couple kunai with paper bomb. Kakuzu and Hidan have already tanked it. Neji can only survive for a little bit using Rotation but he can't keep it up forever.
Gai and Lee are the only threats in this fight,but at this distance Lee is taken out by Hidan's syth. Kakuzu may be able to catch gai with threads at this close a distance if not then gai would probably finish them with afternoon tiger.
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 04:37 PM
Hidan survived Wind Release: Pressure Damage with no effects.
But he can be easily pierced by the weapons of the fodderiest fodder that ever foddered. Surviving Pressure Damage would be plot as it contradicts previously established durability.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:38 PM
do u remember when choji was down and kakuzu easily went from point A to point B to get to choji. it was most likely further then 15 feets.. kakuzu does the same thing with neji and tenten since they havent shown any feats that suggest theyre fast enough to evade something as fast as that Hmph, Tenten may get caught, but certainly not killed. Neji has the Byakugan and reflexes and would more than likely get hit. Neji has rarely got a clean physical hit on him and I doubt it would start with Kakuzu. The last time Neji got hit like that was with Naruto and that's because he's the main character. And killed you say? Guy or Lee wouldn't let that go down at all. I really don't see any of team Guys members getting killed...Unless it's from dealing with the Gates.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:39 PM
i thought about that part but i really didnt even see where kakuzu was coming from..
Kakuzu was presumed dead next to Kakashi on the ground.
Kakashi uses Raikiri speed strike when Kakuzu stands up and kicks Kakashi away before Kakashi can react.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 04:42 PM
thank u. only proves that he could definantly blitz tenten neji and even lee.. i just havent seen any reaction feats from them that suggest they could survice something like a kick from kakuzu
Slack 40
09-13-2010, 04:43 PM
Hmph, Tenten may get caught, but certainly not killed. Neji has the Byakugan and reflexes and would more than likely get hit. Neji has rarely got a clean physical hit on him and I doubt it would start with Kakuzu. The last time Neji got hit like that was with Naruto and that's because he's the main character. And killed you say? Guy or Lee wouldn't let that go down at all. I really don't see any of team Guys members getting killed...Unless it's from dealing with the Gates.
Kakashi's Sharingan>>>>>>>Neji's byakugan and Kakashi had trouble keeping up with Kakuzu and Hidan.
Putting tenten with kakuzu or hidan is basically suicide for tenten again ialready said it but tenten's only feat is throwing paperbombs which are easily tanked by hidan or kakuzu. Neji would surivive for a little then be blitzed after kakuzu or hidan killed lee or gai.
Hidan takes down lee at the distance they're at. Kakuzu could possibly catch gai with threads, unleash hearts kill gai and then send hearts againt Neji and tenten who die easily. They don't take any effort to kill even if the are your favorite chracters.
damn i accidently voted for team gai
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:46 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/jesus_facepalm_facepalm_jesus_epic_demotivational_ poster_1218659828_Facepalm_collection-s640x682-82175-580.jpg
Neji and Tenten are fodder. Tenten is arguably easily the weakest of the original genin 11 plus sai. Tenten's only feat is being able to make a couple kunai with paper bomb. Kakuzu and Hidan have already tanked it. Neji can only survive for a little bit using Rotation but he can't keep it up forever.
Gai and Lee are the only threats in this fight,but at this distance Lee is taken out by Hidan's syth. Kakuzu may be able to catch gai with threads at this close a distance if not then gai would probably finish them with afternoon tiger. Lmao Nice pic. But anyways, I think you're getting Tenten confused with the other leaf squads females. She is not to be taken lighty. She is certainly the weakest of this squad but still wouldn't die. You have three amazing ninja on her side and they wouldn't just let Kakuzu or Hidan near her. They know that Tenten is the weakest out of them and with the being said, more than likely she would be in the back of the squad for support. And Lee getting hit with the syth? Are you serious? Do you not know how fast he is? C'mon now.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:50 PM
But he can be easily pierced by the weapons of the fodderiest fodder that ever foddered. Surviving Pressure Damage would be plot as it contradicts previously established durability.
Pressure Damage is more like blunt force than piercing.
Its much easier to pierce then to pressure you death.
So it doesn't change much.
Raiton:Gian_Kakuzu
09-13-2010, 04:52 PM
Gai vs Hidan + Lightning heart = win 4 hidan
Kakuzu + fire, earth, wind hearts vs neji, lee, ten ten= kakuzu win with Combos
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 04:54 PM
Kakashi's Sharingan>>>>>>>Neji's byakugan and Kakashi had trouble keeping up with Kakuzu and Hidan.
Putting tenten with kakuzu or hidan is basically suicide for tenten again ialready said it but tenten's only feat is throwing paperbombs which are easily tanked by hidan or kakuzu. Neji would surivive for a little then be blitzed after kakuzu or hidan killed lee or gai.
Hidan takes down lee at the distance they're at. Kakuzu could possibly catch gai with threads, unleash hearts kill gai and then send hearts againt Neji and tenten who die easily. They don't take any effort to kill even if the are your favorite chracters.
damn i accidently voted for team gai Well you're right about the Sharringan Byakugan comparison, but no matter how fast Kakuzu is he still would get a clean hit on Neji. By that time anyway Guy and Lee would of been on this guy from the start.
Nyruss
09-13-2010, 04:54 PM
Wind jutsus are always piercing/cutting. What makes Pressure Damage different. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 04:58 PM
Wind jutsus are always piercing/cutting. What makes Pressure Damage different. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
Actually Wind jutsus are more like slicing or cuting you say. Piercing is different in a sense.
Well Pressure Damage descriptions isn't akin to slicing so.
Also look at Orochimaru's wind jutus. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
I guess there are exceptions. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
Slack 40
09-13-2010, 05:03 PM
Lmao Nice pic. But anyways, I think you're getting Tenten confused with the other leaf squads females. She is not to be taken lighty. She is certainly the weakest of this squad but still wouldn't die. You have three amazing ninja on her side and they wouldn't just let Kakuzu or Hidan near her. They know that Tenten is the weakest out of them and with the being said, more than likely she would be in the back of the squad for support. And Lee getting hit with the syth? Are you serious? Do you not know how fast he is? C'mon now.
I'm just talking about Neji and tenten are defanate deaths tenten is useless in this fight she can't do anything inthis fight. The only feats she has is throwing a paper bomb, which kakuzu and hidan can tank. While kakuzu sends threads after gai he sends some after tenten who has no real speed feats so she dies, and kakuzu sends threads under ground to get neji if he does rotation. Neji dies
Gai and lee are debateable but i think lee would die
Slack 40
09-13-2010, 05:05 PM
Gai vs Hidan + Lightning heart = win 4 hidan
Kakuzu + fire, earth, wind hearts vs neji, lee, ten ten= kakuzu win with Combos
change that around to Gai vs Kakuzu+fire earth and wind hearts
and Hidan and Lightning heart vs lee tenten and neji
that makes more sense
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:07 PM
I'm just talking about Neji and tenten are defanate deaths tenten is useless in this fight she can't do anything inthis fight. The only feats she has is throwing a paper bomb, which kakuzu and hidan can tank. While kakuzu sends threads after gai he sends some after tenten who has no real speed feats so she dies, and kakuzu sends threads under ground to get neji if he does rotation. Neji dies
Gai and lee are debateable but i think lee would die What do you mean Hidan can tank the paper bombs? Last time I checked he was blown to pieces WITH paper bombs.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:10 PM
Yeah like over 50 of paper bomb tags wrapped around him literally.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 05:11 PM
What do you mean Hidan can tank the paper bombs? Last time I checked he was blown to pieces WITH paper bombs.
that was a spam of paper bomb.. hidan has a respectable durability feat.. after all, u gotto have one in order to survive the kakuzu hidan combo
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:13 PM
Yeah like over 50 of paper bomb tags wrapped around him literally. That was an overkill haha! :cool:
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 05:17 PM
smart ppl of the forun? Team Hidan wins or we still debating?
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:18 PM
The main problem is with the 15 feet distance.
I mean here is the thing though if Kakuzu survives in one worse scenario with Doton Domu from Gated Gai's attacks. Then Kakuzu will have an advantage. Considering Gai needs to rest after using gates.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:19 PM
smart ppl of the forun? Team Hidan wins or we still debating? Please explain how are they going to survive Gates spam?
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 05:24 PM
i agree that with gated attacks will definantly be a problem but 15 feet as a starting point means blitzing for hidan and kakuzu.. neji, lee and ten ten simply showed no feats that suggest they could react/survice an assault from kakuzu and hidan.. especially kakuzu's side kick or or whatever.. lol.. so in the end it'll be just guy and the immortal duo.. bloodlusted, hidan will just charge at guy like crazy while kakuzu releases his heart for spammage attacks (mmmm spam..) i think kakuzu and hidan has a 75 percent chance of winning
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:28 PM
Which is why I said either Gates or Kakuzu's tenticle rape.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:29 PM
i agree that with gated attacks will definantly be a problem but 15 feet as a starting point means blitzing for hidan and kakuzu.. neji, lee and ten ten simply showed no feats that suggest they could react/survice an assault from kakuzu and hidan.. especially kakuzu's side kick or or whatever.. lol.. so in the end it'll be just guy and the immortal duo.. bloodlusted, hidan will just charge at guy like crazy while kakuzu releases his heart for spammage attacks (mmmm spam..) i think kakuzu and hidan has a 75 percent chance of winning Waiiiit waiiit waiiit... You honestly think Kakuzu and Hidan is faster than Guy and Lee? Really man? Expecially without weights?! You're acting as if they can't do the same.
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:31 PM
Waiiiit waiiit waiiit... You honestly think Kakuzu and Hidan is faster than Guy and Lee? Really man? Expecially without weights?! You're acting as if they can't do the same.
Sasuke in the chunin exams was able to match Preskip Lee weightless.
We don't know how fast current Lee is without weights.
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Waiiiit waiiit waiiit... You honestly think Kakuzu and Hidan is faster than Guy and Lee? Really man? Expecially without weights?! You're acting as if they can't do the same.
faster then base lee and guy atleast.. the only reason why im giving hidan and kauzu the win is because 15 feet is a silly starting distance.. it wouldnt give them enough time to open the gate especially with kakuzu's speed.. if the starting distance was more like 50 meters and up, id give the win to team guy but 15 is just silly.. thats sooooooooo close its not even funny.. the odds are stacked against team guy.. especially because they are not used to fighting ppl like hidan and kakuzu, there's special ways of killing/eleminating them from the fight..
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:41 PM
faster then base lee and guy atleast.. the only reason why im giving hidan and kauzu the win is because 15 feet is a silly starting distance.. it wouldnt give them enough time to open the gate especially with kakuzu's speed.. if the starting distance was more like 50 meters and up, id give the win to team guy but 15 is just silly.. thats sooooooooo close its not even funny.. the odds are stacked against team guy.. especially because they are not used to fighting ppl like hidan and kakuzu, there's special ways of killing/eleminating them from the fight.. Hmm why do you have team guy at a disadvantage? Remember this ninja squad is CLOSE range fighters and one long range fighter. What's the hold up?
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:43 PM
Thread speed says hi.
Gates is really the only way break out of it.
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 05:47 PM
Well guys since you think that 15 feet is too close, let's change it to 30ft. Deal?
321zigzag3
09-13-2010, 05:48 PM
What difference does that make? Its only 9.14 meters
SimpleGenin
09-13-2010, 05:50 PM
Hmm why do you have team guy at a disadvantage? Remember this ninja squad is CLOSE range fighters and one long range fighter. What's the hold up?
im not trying to be mean but it doesnt matter what kind of fighter neji, lee and tenten are.. its just they havent shown the reaction feats and speed feats that could handle kakuzu.. example.. tenten realy dont have any durability feats so a kick from kakuzu and she'll most likely die.. same goes for neji and lee.. its all about the feats shown by the characters.. but i understand u though..
its like this
in the battleground, i say
Tsunade < Neji
Manito < Orochimaru
BUT i really dont think that in my mind.. u get it?? lol its just how the battleground work?
Tevin Hyuga
09-13-2010, 06:09 PM
Hey guys we'll finish tomorrow, I'm getting tired. lol See ya and thanks for participating! =)
Kanuja Yotsuki
09-14-2010, 12:57 PM
with a starting distance of 15 meters, its up to who does what first.. kakuzu is fast aswell as hidan. opening the gates at the start of the battle wouldnt be a good idea considering that hidan and kakuzu are much faster then tenten neji. so those two dies while lee and guy dodge.. kakuzu realeses his heart while hidan distracts lee and guy. from then on i see spammage of elemental attack.. even if hidan is in the battlefield
Ok. Well just to say this neji would not die no way no how because of palm rotation. Tenten however would most likely die so i agree at that point possibly. Although i must add that two gate users and palm rotation means that she would be protected. Now as for Gai and Lee they have enough speed to evade everyone. With Hidan and his bloodlust attack that would most likely compromise Kakazu. Kakazu would be left alone with his hearts and two gate users i belive would destroy those hearts in a second or two. If Kakashi was able to take out a heart with one Chidori then I am more then likely shore that Gai and Lee would have no problem detsroying them to. Now even if Hidan did manage to get some blood which i have no idea how he could catch one of team Gai's members, Then he still would not be able to stay in the circle because of the Gate users ( Gai and Lee ). Well as this pans out Kakazu Dies!!! then Hidan is Torn!! Apart by the Gate users. Thanks for listening.`:)
Akatsuki X
09-14-2010, 01:05 PM
Neji would actually be killed easily.
Element spam or just simple threads via Kakuzu.
I agree, TenTen dies easily.
Lee probably dies too, even if he enters gates, it's unlikely he could survive element blasts.
The only threat is Gai, who pretty much takes this for his team.
SimpleGenin
09-14-2010, 01:06 PM
Ok. Well just to say this neji would not die no way no how because of palm rotation. Tenten however would most likely die so i agree at that point possibly. Although i must add that two gate users and palm rotation means that she would be protected. Now as for Gai and Lee they have enough speed to evade everyone. With Hidan and his bloodlust attack that would most likely compromise Kakazu. Kakazu would be left alone with his hearts and two gate users i belive would destroy those hearts in a second or two. If Kakashi was able to take out a heart with one Chidori then I am more then likely shore that Gai and Lee would have no problem detsroying them to. Now even if Hidan did manage to get some blood which i have no idea how he could catch one of team Gai's members, Then he still would not be able to stay in the circle because of the Gate users ( Gai and Lee ). Well as this pans out Kakazu Dies!!! then Hidan is Torn!! Apart by the Gate users. Thanks for listening.`:)
Nope. with 15 meters as starting point, neji tenten and lee would easily get caught by kakuzu's earth grudge..
Kanuja Yotsuki
09-14-2010, 01:43 PM
Neji would actually be killed easily.
Element spam or just simple threads via Kakuzu.
I agree, TenTen dies easily.
Lee probably dies too, even if he enters gates, it's unlikely he could survive element blasts.
The only threat is Gai, who pretty much takes this for his team.
Lee DIESSS!!!!!! ;););););) WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Lee and Neji Die???????
There is no way that neji would die( Palm Rotation)
Lee would not die( Gates and Gai would be protecting )
The only possible thing i see is maybe tenten dieing and she would be protected by the rest of the team. Formula for you.
Gai saving< Lee and Neji Save< Tenten Throwing things to save< Everyone.
Tevin Hyuga
09-14-2010, 01:45 PM
Neji would actually be killed easily.
Element spam or just simple threads via Kakuzu.
I agree, TenTen dies easily.
Lee probably dies too, even if he enters gates, it's unlikely he could survive element blasts.
The only threat is Gai, who pretty much takes this for his team. Oh Kakuzu dies easily. Gai gates spam and Lee gates spam.
SimpleGenin
09-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Lee DIESSS!!!!!! ;););););) WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Lee and Neji Die???????
There is no way that neji would die( Palm Rotation)
Lee would not die( Gates and Gai would be protecting )
The only possible thing i see is maybe tenten dieing and she would be protected by the rest of the team. Formula for you.
Gai saving< Lee and Neji Save< Tenten Throwing things to save< Everyone.
tenten, neji and lee does not have reaction speed that will allow them to evade kakuzu from 15 meters.
Kanuja Yotsuki
09-14-2010, 01:51 PM
Nope. with 15 meters as starting point, neji tenten and lee would easily get caught by kakuzu's earth grudge..
Palm Rotation.:mrgreen:
SimpleGenin
09-14-2010, 02:07 PM
Palm Rotation.:mrgreen:
how would neji do that when his caught in earth grudge
321zigzag3
09-14-2010, 02:12 PM
Kakuzu's threads vs Gates at 15 feet.
Mind you if Kakuzu survives Gates such as through Iron Skin then Team Gai is on the losing end.
SimpleGenin
09-14-2010, 02:14 PM
Kakuzu's threads vs Gates at 15 feet.
Mind you if Kakuzu survives Gates such as through Iron Skin then Team Gai is on the losing end.
yeah it honestly could go both ways depending on who does what and who does what first u gets?
wait even i dont get it..
Yellow Flash
09-14-2010, 03:32 PM
In the time it takes Neji and Tenten to die, Gai and Lee are already opened at least up to the fifth or sixth gate. Kakuzu is at best Transonic, being the faster of the two, going against two Supersonic opponents; one being low end and one high end, possibly low end Supersonic. Team Gai takes this with difficulty.
erickuu
09-14-2010, 10:16 PM
Oh Kakuzu dies easily. Gai gates spam and Lee gates spam.
Nu uh! Thats foolishness u sayin man.(haha im on ya now boy!) Kakuzu has all 5 elements, WHICH MEANS he has earth element. Now as i recall we saw him use his earth style iron skin technique which allowed his body to be nearly indestructible. So basically if he got hit by a kunai bomb at point blank range with no injuries AND choji's giant spiky human boulder (also with no injuries) , then im pretty sure he can take lee and guy's spammin last resort eight gates rush attacks. OOOOOOOO!
ATTENTION: anyone that reads this post and agrees with me (since im making since) please vote for hidan and kakuzu because kakuzu is a beast with over 90 years of experience so im pretty sure he can take a bunch of youngens
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 01:09 PM
Lee DIESSS!!!!!! ;););););) WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????
Lee and Neji Die???????
There is no way that neji would die( Palm Rotation)
Lee would not die( Gates and Gai would be protecting )
The only possible thing i see is maybe tenten dieing and she would be protected by the rest of the team. Formula for you.
Gai saving< Lee and Neji Save< Tenten Throwing things to save< Everyone.
Yes, Lee and Neji die.
Palm rotation won't stop threads from ripping his heart out.
Lee would probably die too,
Team protection doesn't work when your dead.
Your logic is based on character personality, which isn't used here.
Oh Kakuzu dies easily. Gai gates spam and Lee gates spam.
As I said, Gai takes this,
he can enter gates rather instantly, which would allow him to blitz.
Maybe Lee could enter gates on time..
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 01:10 PM
Nu uh! Thats foolishness u sayin man.(haha im on ya now boy!) Kakuzu has all 5 elements, WHICH MEANS he has earth element. Now as i recall we saw him use his earth style iron skin technique which allowed his body to be nearly indestructible. So basically if he got hit by a kunai bomb at point blank range with no injuries AND choji's giant spiky human boulder (also with no injuries) , then im pretty sure he can take lee and guy's spammin last resort eight gates rush attacks. OOOOOOOO!
ATTENTION: anyone that reads this post and agrees with me (since im making since) please vote for hidan and kakuzu because kakuzu is a beast with over 90 years of experience so im pretty sure he can take a bunch of youngens You REALLY think that Kakuzu's iron skin is going to save him from Guy and Lee? You think that Kakuzu is Broly or something huh? Give it up Erick, there's no way that Kakuzu is going to survive.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 01:15 PM
Yes, Lee and Neji die.
Palm rotation won't stop threads from ripping his heart out.
Lee would probably die too,
Team protection doesn't work when your dead.
Your logic is based on character personality, which isn't used here.
As I said, Gai takes this,
he can enter gates rather instantly, which would allow him to blitz.
Maybe Lee could enter gates on time.. I'm he pretty sure that he can. I know we didn't see him go gates in Shippuuden, but I'm sure that he got better from last season. Last season It really wasn't much of a problem to go gates anyway.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 01:15 PM
You REALLY think that Kakuzu's iron skin is going to save him from Guy and Lee? You think that Kakuzu is Broly or something huh? Give it up Erick, there's no way that Kakuzu is going to survive.
with 15 meters as the startiing point, kakuzu easily blitz lee, tenten, neji with a kick leaving guy alone
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 01:18 PM
To all posters: Please answser the poll above. I would really like to know what you think about this fight. I appreciate you guys participation! Thank you.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 01:21 PM
with 15 meters as the startiing point, kakuzu easily blitz lee, tenten, neji with a kick leaving guy alone Neji with a kick? Whoa, when was the last time you seen Neji Hyuga get caught with a direct physical hit? Errrr...Naruto...and that was the first season...Not to mention that Naruto is the main character.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 01:26 PM
Neji with a kick? Whoa, when was the last time you seen Neji Hyuga get caught with a direct physical hit? Errrr...Naruto...and that was the first season...Not to mention that Naruto is the main character.
kakashi "killed" kakuzu,kakuzu fell to the ground, kakashi then ran for hidan, but kakuzu caught up with kakashi with ease and used a kicked that was enough to knock out trees. neji cant survive that
You dont know me
09-15-2010, 01:33 PM
Neji. lee, and ten ten can by more than enough time for Gai to use the eight gates. So the question is will they survive the attack.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 01:40 PM
kakashi "killed" kakuzu,kakuzu fell to the ground, kakashi then ran for hidan, but kakuzu caught up with kakashi with ease and used a kicked that was enough to knock out trees. neji cant survive that The point is Neji seldomly gets hit. And besides where is the proof that Neji can'r survive that? I mean I know it's damaging but dang... You act like Neji is a Puss or something. Don't you remember when Neji was fighting Kidoumaru? Didn't
you see the damage he sustained?! I know he got healed at the end but the fact that he stayed alive that amout of time left was pretty impressive.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 01:45 PM
The point is Neji seldomly gets hit. And besides where is the proof that Neji can'r survive that? I mean I know it's damaging but dang... You act like Neji is a Puss or something. Don't you remember when Neji was fighting Kidoumaru? Didn't
you see the damage he sustained?! I know he got healed at the end but the fact that he stayed alive that amout of time left was pretty impressive.
neji was never kicked with a force that can knock down several trees.
he survived piercing attacks but how about brunt force?
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:11 PM
neji was never kicked with a force that can knock down several trees.
he survived piercing attacks but how about brunt force? Remember Neji already at LEAST had two kunais in his back already, BEFORE getting hit with that massive arrow. By the way the arrow was knocking down a massive amout of trees and impaled and slammed Neji into a tree. Neji still had stamina left and ran all the way to Kidomaru and finished the fight. So I'll let you decide Which attack or series of attacks is more fatal. I can't belive you're so quick to count Neji out.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 02:17 PM
Remember Neji already at LEAST had two kunais in his back already, BEFORE getting hit with that massive arrow. By the way the arrow was knocking down a massive amout of trees and impaled and slammed Neji into a tree. Neji still had stamina left and ran all the way to Kidomaru and finished the fight. So I'll let you decide Which attack or series of attacks is more fatal. I can't belive you're so quick to count Neji out.
point is neji doesnt have the feats that suggest he can survive a kick from kakuzu. neji won against to kidomaru because of plot.. almost everyone here would agree with me about this..
Shikamaru Nara
09-15-2010, 02:18 PM
Wow, suprising that this thread is still going.
Morning Peacock, GG.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:24 PM
Wow, suprising that this thread is still going.
Morning Peacock, GG. Lol I like that.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 02:25 PM
Lol I like that.
i just sense alot of neji wanking in you.. thats bad.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:33 PM
point is neji doesnt have the feats that suggest he can survive a kick from kakuzu. neji won against to kidomaru because of plot.. almost everyone here would agree with me about this.. Yes, even I agree with you about that. But I just told you some pretty solid evidence that Neji could possibly survive that. You can't say that he can't survive a kick from Kazuku can you? But we can both agree that Neji can sustain a significant amount of damage, which can lead to the possibility of Neji surviving that kick.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:35 PM
i just sense alot of neji wanking in you.. thats bad. Well I mean he is my favorite character but I will say he wouldn't due much in this fight(Which is sad). Just can't see him dying in this fight though.
Shikamaru Nara
09-15-2010, 02:37 PM
i just sense alot of neji wanking in you.. thats bad.
Doesn't matter. Neji still sucks, but Gai doesn't.
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 02:37 PM
Yes, even I agree with you about that. But I just told you some pretty solid evidence that Neji could possibly survive that. You can't say that he can't survive a kick from Kazuku can you? But we can both agree that Neji can sustain a significant amount of damage, which can lead to the possibility of Neji surviving that kick.
what evidence? neji never showed any feats that suggest he can survive a kick from kakuzu without being taken out of the battle..
neji only fought with hinata, naruto and with kidomaru. in those fight he never showed anything that suggest he can survive someting like kakuzu's kick. neji has high tolerance for pain but that alone is not enough to suggest he can survive kakuzu's kick.
like i said originally.. this fight can go both ways. im just leaning on kakuzu's team more because of the starting distance
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:47 PM
Doesn't matter. Neji still sucks, but Gai doesn't. Neji sucks how?
SimpleGenin
09-15-2010, 02:51 PM
Neji sucks how?
dont listen to some ppl in the BG.. some of them just think they know evertthing there is to know about naruto and the worse part, they dont care about hurting ppl's feeling with what they say.
Neji is strong. but just not in the same level as kakuzu. in the BG i can even say that without katsuyu, Neji can beat tsunade if were just basing things purely on feats..
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:51 PM
Erick Read my other post and you'll see how "DROVE" I am. You fail at argument...Simply because you never pay attention.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 02:53 PM
dont listen to some ppl in the BG.. some of them just think they know evertthing there is to know about naruto and the worse part, they dont care about hurting ppl's feeling with what they say.
Neji is strong. but just not in the same level as kakuzu. in the BG i can even say that without katsuyu, Neji can beat tsunade if were just basing things purely on feats.. I agree he can't beat Kakuzu by himself.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 03:02 PM
Well I mean he is my favorite character but I will say he wouldn't due much in this fight(Which is sad). Just can't see him dying in this fight though.
I agree with simple genin saying that is true, im pretty sure they werent goin to let neji die from dat knowing he is from the leaf village and a supporting character in the series and honestly you have know proof that neji would have the endurance to survive that cuz since "he rarely gets hit" that must mean that he knows that he cant afford to get hit cuz he doesnt have the endurance as the others. Im not saying neji will die from that but at the same time he will suffer with a significant amount of damage that i think he wont be able to just get up from. I say its a 70% possibility that he will have alot of broken bones and a kick to the chest (like what happened to kakashi) would probably break his rib cage and a few organs which means, although he isnt dead, he is pretty much out of commission. NOW going back to the kidomaru arrow comparison, kakuzu's kick knocked back kakashi through several trees causing the whole circle of trees around him "as the epicenter" to collapse in a domino effect so thats basically saying that kakuzu's ONE kick caused AT LEAST the same amount of damage to the surrounding area as kidomaru's spider bow fierce rip technique. Kidomaru's arrow damage is different because neji just got impaled in the stomach,Hypothetically speaking Kakuzu on the other hand kicks neji (which as i said before will probably cause some damaged organs) and then right after that painful kick neji gets slammed into SEVERAL large thick trees. So now neji is handicapped for the remainder of the fight.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 03:07 PM
Erick Read my other post and you'll see how "DROVE" I am. You fail at argument...Simply because you never pay attention.
(Finna turn up on ya) 1ST: i have paid attention, y would i just come outta nowhere saying your drove. 2ND: i read your post and based on those it would seem as though you were getting cornered and most pple against u were bringing alot of valid points as proof. I do agree that you were too but in an opinionated argument such as this it only matters who makes the MOST valid points.so calm dat down sir.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 03:23 PM
(Finna turn up on ya) 1ST: i have paid attention, y would i just come outta nowhere saying your drove. 2ND: i read your post and based on those it would seem as though you were getting cornered and most pple against u were bringing alot of valid points as proof. I do agree that you were too but in an opinionated argument such as this it only matters who makes the MOST valid points.so calm dat down sir. Ok whatever. So what do you think about the last post I posted? The Neji sustaining damage one.
Dx-Pain
09-15-2010, 03:37 PM
We voted for Hidan & Kakuzu. First of all we would like to say that we don't think that Tenten is a skilled ninja.
Let us explain: Kakuzu weakness is range, he is very good in close combat, Guy and Lee have both great disadvantage. Tenten can only spawn and throw random weapons with scrolls, weak.. Neji though, he has some good attacks that could stun Hidan for some time.
So, when the battle finish, Kakuzu will have 1-2 hearts left, due to the release of guy and lee's gates. Hidan will probably lose all his limps, but he'll be restored by Kakuzu. There is a limit to the power of the gates so guy and Lee will be powerful but kakuzu and Hidan will be able to survive their rampage, and when they are done, they'll kill them easily. Then Neji will be an easy target. Tenten... She'll die first probably.
Tevin Hyuga
09-15-2010, 06:57 PM
Thanks All of you guys who kept this thread alive! This is a very interesting topic so guys let's keep going! I will continue posting tomorrow! See you!
Kanuja Yotsuki
09-15-2010, 07:03 PM
I agree with simple genin saying that is true, im pretty sure they werent goin to let neji die from dat knowing he is from the leaf village and a supporting character in the series and honestly you have know proof that neji would have the endurance to survive that cuz since "he rarely gets hit" that must mean that he knows that he cant afford to get hit cuz he doesnt have the endurance as the others. Im not saying neji will die from that but at the same time he will suffer with a significant amount of damage that i think he wont be able to just get up from. I say its a 70% possibility that he will have alot of broken bones and a kick to the chest (like what happened to kakashi) would probably break his rib cage and a few organs which means, although he isnt dead, he is pretty much out of commission. NOW going back to the kidomaru arrow comparison, kakuzu's kick knocked back kakashi through several trees causing the whole circle of trees around him "as the epicenter" to collapse in a domino effect so thats basically saying that kakuzu's ONE kick caused AT LEAST the same amount of damage to the surrounding area as kidomaru's spider bow fierce rip technique. Kidomaru's arrow damage is different because neji just got impaled in the stomach,Hypothetically speaking Kakuzu on the other hand kicks neji (which as i said before will probably cause some damaged organs) and then right after that painful kick neji gets slammed into SEVERAL large thick trees. So now neji is handicapped for the remainder of the fight.
Palm rotation erikuu-kun:mrgreen:
trent_uchiha
09-15-2010, 07:26 PM
I believe that Kakuzu could take down pretty much all of team Guy by himself. His wind heart could easily take TenTen down.
-Also the fact that Kakuzu is pretty old, he fought the 1st Hokage, so im pretty sure he has fought at least one person with gates and has knowledge of it. And even if Guy and Lee both use gates it wouldnt kill all of his hearts and they would be left feeble after using the limits of their gate's abilities...Therefore even if Kakuzu would be put out of commission, Hidan could finish Guy and Lee leaving no one but Neji to fend for himself. Honestly, Neji MAY have more moves since he was last seen fighting, but i doubt they would seriously have an effect on Hidan and that Hidan would in the end kill Neji.
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 07:28 PM
The only problem is that Gai could mostly likely take out all of Kakuzu's hearts in one shot with Afternoon Tiger.
trent_uchiha
09-15-2010, 07:35 PM
The only problem is that Gai could mostly likely take out all of Kakuzu's hearts in one shot with Afternoon Tiger.
That's true but i doubt that he'll retain all of his hearts if he see's someone go full potential and use their "trump" card so early in the fight. I also doubt that Guy or Lee would use gates at the begining of a fight...seeing as they never have before.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:36 PM
Palm rotation erikuu-kun:mrgreen:
rotation rotation rotation, all your doing is spamming it to avoid the inevitable. Plus its not like i said kakuzu was just going to run up on neji to kick him, i wuz sayin neji would get kick while they were exchanging blows so WAT U TALMBOUT!
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 07:38 PM
That's true but i doubt that he'll retain all of his hearts if he see's someone go full potential and use their "trump" card so early in the fight. I also doubt that Guy or Lee would use gates at the begining of a fight...seeing as they never have before.
They are bloodlusted, so they will go into gates at the start of the fight.
Kakuzu can't react to Afternoon Tiger because he is nowhere near fast enough.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:39 PM
I believe that Kakuzu could take down pretty much all of team Guy by himself. His wind heart could easily take TenTen down.
-Also the fact that Kakuzu is pretty old, he fought the 1st Hokage, so im pretty sure he has fought at least one person with gates and has knowledge of it. And even if Guy and Lee both use gates it wouldnt kill all of his hearts and they would be left feeble after using the limits of their gate's abilities...Therefore even if Kakuzu would be put out of commission, Hidan could finish Guy and Lee leaving no one but Neji to fend for himself. Honestly, Neji MAY have more moves since he was last seen fighting, but i doubt they would seriously have an effect on Hidan and that Hidan would in the end kill Neji.
yea get em........uchiha. Ay since your supporting us then vote for hidan and kakuzu cuz we're catching up in the poll
trent_uchiha
09-15-2010, 07:43 PM
They are bloodlusted, so they will go into gates at the start of the fight.
Kakuzu can't react to Afternoon Tiger because he is nowhere near fast enough.
Ok, they can go gates and Guy can use Afternoon Tiger, but that wont kill him, because it sure didnt kill Kisame, and i believe Kakazua can take more hits than Kisame could in his regular state.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:45 PM
The only problem is that Gai could mostly likely take out all of Kakuzu's hearts in one shot with Afternoon Tiger.
You're probably right but who said that kakuzu was just going to sit there and let him go gates in the 1st place. REMEMBER: kakuzu is no fool, he fought the 1st hokage (and lived) and he killed the elders in his village plus he's 91 years old so with that being said im pretty sure he has a vast amount of knowledge about most jutsu in the world which means he is well aware of the eight gates and how much a threat they are. If guy does try to power up to gates then kakuzu just has to use his threads (which are faster than their reaction time and they can go underground for a surprise attack). Once the threads grasp hold of guy then its over. Guy will be going nite nite.
Susanoo's Eyes
09-15-2010, 07:51 PM
I am just gunna bring this up but Didn't Kakuzu tank a FRS(but was incapacitated and killed by kakashi's raikiri) Gai's Afternoon tiger incapacitated kisame, the question is though what is stronger? FRS or Afternoon Tiger. I'll let you decide about that...
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:51 PM
They are bloodlusted, so they will go into gates at the start of the fight.
Kakuzu can't react to Afternoon Tiger because he is nowhere near fast enough.
ATTENTION:guy and lee will not go eight gates at the beginning of the fight. That is completely out of their nature and when they do try to go eight gates kakuzu can use his super quick threads to go underground and capture them or at least keep them on the move, so they wont have the opportunity to go eight gates.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:54 PM
I am just gunna bring this up but Didn't Kakuzu tank a FRS(but was incapacitated and killed by kakashi's raikiri) Gai's Afternoon tiger incapacitated kisame, the question is though what is stronger? FRS or Afternoon Tiger. I'll let you decide about that...
i cant counter that because FIRST i need to know what FRS stands for or means. So would you please explain what is this "FRS"
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 07:58 PM
ATTENTION:guy and lee will not go eight gates at the beginning of the fight. That is completely out of their nature and when they do try to go eight gates kakuzu can use his super quick threads to go underground and capture them or at least keep them on the move, so they wont have the opportunity to go eight gates.
Why ATTENTION? It's not a public service announcement. `|(
Also, BG Default rules all characters are Bloodlusted unless stated otherwise so Gai and Lee would enter gates the moment the fight started and blitz the hell out of Kakuzu.
i cant counter that because FIRST i need to know what FRS stands for or means. So would you please explain what is this "FRS"
Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken.
Susanoo's Eyes
09-15-2010, 07:58 PM
Fuuton Rasen Shruiken.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 07:59 PM
with 15 meters as the startiing point, kakuzu easily blitz lee, tenten, neji with a kick leaving guy alone
Hope you voted for hidan and kakuzu with these valid points you're making. Cmon support the immortal duo ( or by what kisame called them), the ZOMBIE BROS
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Why ATTENTION? It's not a public service announcement. `|(
Also, BG Default rules all characters are Bloodlusted unless stated otherwise so Gai and Lee would enter gates the moment the fight started and blitz the hell out of Kakuzu.
Fuuton: Rasen Shuriken.
I wuz just sayin ATTENTION because they wont go eight gates immediately and like i said before kakuzu's threads will already be underground for a sneak attack.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:07 PM
I am just gunna bring this up but Didn't Kakuzu tank a FRS(but was incapacitated and killed by kakashi's raikiri) Gai's Afternoon tiger incapacitated kisame, the question is though what is stronger? FRS or Afternoon Tiger. I'll let you decide about that...
i have to say rasenshuriken is stronger than daytime tiger because it attacks at a cellular level and attacks the chakra circulatory system and it killed 2 of kakuzu's hearts while daytime tiger was just a quick eight gates punch powered by air pressur(which didnt even kill kisame) so rasenshuriken is better.
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 08:08 PM
How will Kakuzu's threads already be underground when the match just began?
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:11 PM
How will Kakuzu's threads already be underground when the match just began?
when the match starts thats when he will put his threads underground to try and capture them.
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 08:13 PM
And when the match starts Gai will enter gates, use Afternoon Tiger, and kill Kakuzu.
Now,
GOOD DAY SIR! `@x)
trent_uchiha
09-15-2010, 08:22 PM
Just from watching the anime, everyone should know that neither team will go beserk and start head on attacking, they'll be using "ninja" tactics and try to analyze each other before using their full abilities. Even though team guy is bloodlusted(WoW reference? 0:) wouldnt Hidan and Kakazu be too, and those two in their bloodlusted form wouldn't ne takin by lil' ole' Afternoon Tiger. Hidan could easily tank that blow, let kakuzu play doctor and fix him up, then both would be ready to fight..
Akatsuki X
09-15-2010, 08:33 PM
LOL.
People really need to learn what bloodlusted means.
Both Hidan and Kakuzu would be utterly decimated by Afternoon Tiger.
And since Gai in gates is so much massively, massively faster than both of them bloodlusted, the can pull it off before they have time to do anything.
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:34 PM
And when the match starts Gai will enter gates, use Afternoon Tiger, and kill Kakuzu.
Now,
GOOD DAY SIR! `@x)
NO "SIR"!`:| Like i keep saying before, GUY WONT GO EIGHT GATES AT DA BEGINNIN! If he did anyways and do daytime tiger then kakuzu wont die from it because kisame didnt die from it and plus as a extra bonus for kakuzu he has his iron skin technique which is nearly indestructible and it even states that close to 0 jutsus can get through it so if kisame survived daytime tiger (having just skin; NO ARMOR) and kakuzu has armor then kakuzu will just barely flinch. so GOOD DAY TO U MY GOOD SIR! HAAA`!:)
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:42 PM
LOL.
People really need to learn what bloodlusted means.
Both Hidan and Kakuzu would be utterly decimated by Afternoon Tiger.
And since Gai in gates is so much massively, massively faster than both of them bloodlusted, the can pull it off before they have time to do anything.
Since their so "BLOODLUSTED" (based off wat you said) then im pretty sure that kakuzu will be "bloodlusted" also which means he will release his elemental hearts which will blast at guy making him have to dodge which means if he has to stay on his toes to not get decimated then he wont be able to go gates. PLUS kakuzu is super fast too so it will be him and all 4 of his hearts raisin hell for guy plus kakuzu can use his threads to add with the long range attack rampages and eventually he will succeed in getting guy because kakuzu is faster than lee and he outmatched kakashi too. and kakashi is almost as fast as guy since their so called "rivals" so if kakashi got out smarted and out matched by the threads and hearts alone then guy will suffer the same way. and for Hidan............well im pretty sure everybody on this whole forum and thread have enough sense to know that if hidan got stabbed by 2 large kunai in the chest and blasted by kakuzu's wind pressure damage technique at point blank range then we all know that he can handle daytime tiger because its simply a very fast punch and a punch wont really do anything against somebody who is immortal. and all hidan has to do is jump in front of daytime tiger to guard kakuzu and take the brunt of the force then just continue on slaughtering the team. Am i correct everyone! YES! soooooooo.......how do you feel sir do you feel like this `~(
erickuu
09-15-2010, 08:47 PM
Just from watching the anime, everyone should know that neither team will go beserk and start head on attacking, they'll be using "ninja" tactics and try to analyze each other before using their full abilities. Even though team guy is bloodlusted(WoW reference? 0:) wouldnt Hidan and Kakazu be too, and those two in their bloodlusted form wouldn't ne takin by lil' ole' Afternoon Tiger. Hidan could easily tank that blow, let kakuzu play doctor and fix him up, then both would be ready to fight..
did u vote already?
Susanoo's Eyes
09-15-2010, 10:10 PM
And when the match starts Gai will enter gates, use Afternoon Tiger, and kill Kakuzu.
Now,
GOOD DAY SIR! `@x)
What about iron skin D: plus kakuzu can't be one shotted with afternoon tiger with iron skin on. Even kakuzu without iron skin withstood a FRS but was incapacitated, though Afternoon tiger can probably incapacitate kakuzu, and hidan is basically fodder. Though with no knowledge hidan might be able to make the kill so the point I am saying is Kakuzu and hidan can't be one shotted, but mostly incapacitated.
Tevin Hyuga
09-16-2010, 01:01 PM
Ok, they can go gates and Guy can use Afternoon Tiger, but that wont kill him, because it sure didnt kill Kisame, and i believe Kakazua can take more hits than Kisame could in his regular state. So WHAT do you think it would take to kill Kakuzu? I mean After afternoon tiger Guy could still pound Kakuzu to death after it...If not Lee can.
Susanoo's Eyes
09-16-2010, 01:27 PM
So WHAT do you think it would take to kill Kakuzu? I mean After afternoon tiger Guy could still pound Kakuzu to death after it...If not Lee can.
read my post above :/ yours that is my reply..
erickuu
09-16-2010, 02:07 PM
So WHAT do you think it would take to kill Kakuzu? I mean After afternoon tiger Guy could still pound Kakuzu to death after it...If not Lee can.
Actually after using daytime tiger (his most powerful eight gates technique) he wont be able to do much since he used so much energy to utilize it in the first place which means he will be fatigued and wont be able to bounce all around and attack like he was at full power, so after daytime tiger fails to penetrate iron skin technique then kakuzu goes for the kill while his 4 hearts distract lee
Shikamaru Nara
09-16-2010, 02:11 PM
Just from watching the anime, everyone should know that neither team will go beserk and start head on attacking, they'll be using "ninja" tactics and try to analyze each other before using their full abilities. Even though team guy is bloodlusted(WoW reference? 0:) wouldnt Hidan and Kakazu be too, and those two in their bloodlusted form wouldn't ne takin by lil' ole' Afternoon Tiger. Hidan could easily tank that blow, let kakuzu play doctor and fix him up, then both would be ready to fight..
lol at wank.
Bloodlusted means that they are going berserk. Did you see what
AT did to Kisame? Haha.
Tomohime Zazuki
09-16-2010, 06:46 PM
there is NO WAY team guy can defeat hidan and kakuzu, especially hidan! for one, hidan is immortal so he CANT BE KILLED!! the only possible way he can is if he stops killing, cuz he only has his immortaliy if he continues 2 kill.....as for kakuzu, seriously, kakuzu is completely unstopable, hes the most experienced member of the akatsuki & he is just bs! `:) personally, i think team guy is the most embarassing team in naruto history....poor tenten & neji lol, its guy & lee's fault for making their team so weak & embarassing, i dont find any member of their squad strong one bit
this is just my opinion, but im sticking up for hidan-kun here!!! `!:)
erickuu
09-16-2010, 07:13 PM
there is NO WAY team guy can defeat hidan and kakuzu, especially hidan! for one, hidan is immortal so he CANT BE KILLED!! the only possible way he can is if he stops killing, cuz he only has his immortaliy if he continues 2 kill.....as for kakuzu, seriously, kakuzu is completely unstopable, hes the most experienced member of the akatsuki & he is just bs! `:) personally, i think team guy is the most embarassing team in naruto history....poor tenten & neji lol, its guy & lee's fault for making their team so weak & embarassing, i dont find any member of their squad strong one bit
this is just my opinion, but im sticking up for hidan-kun here!!! `!:)
Finally someone who is making sense on this post
Akatsuki X
09-16-2010, 07:22 PM
LOL at the replies to my post's.
I am tiring of having to say that they are bloodlusted for the 100th time.
Meaning that Gai WILL go into gates.
So what is Kakuzu is bloodlusted, it takes him longer to release his hearts then it does for Gai to go into gates.
Afternoon Tiger almost completely destroyed Kisame, it will certainly kill Kakuzu before he has time to activate Iron Skin, apart from the fact that it could probably still hurt him even with Iron Skin activated.
erickuu
09-16-2010, 07:31 PM
LOL at the replies to my post's.
I am tiring of having to say that they are bloodlusted for the 100th time.
Meaning that Gai WILL go into gates.
So what is Kakuzu is bloodlusted, it takes him longer to release his hearts then it does for Gai to go into gates.
Afternoon Tiger almost completely destroyed Kisame, it will certainly kill Kakuzu before he has time to activate Iron Skin, apart from the fact that it could probably still hurt him even with Iron Skin activated.
Thats absurd, kisame survived daytime tiger (having no armor or protection on) so kakuzu (with his iron skin on) will be more than enough to withstand it, and kakuzu will attack guy before he goes gates and just as a precaution while he is attacking guy he will turn on his iron skin so either way guy wont kill him.
Susanoo's Eyes
09-16-2010, 07:32 PM
LOL at the replies to my post's.
I am tiring of having to say that they are bloodlusted for the 100th time.
Meaning that Gai WILL go into gates.
So what is Kakuzu is bloodlusted, it takes him longer to release his hearts then it does for Gai to go into gates.
Afternoon Tiger almost completely destroyed Kisame, it will certainly kill Kakuzu before he has time to activate Iron Skin, apart from the fact that it could probably still hurt him even with Iron Skin activated.
lol he was still alive after being hit by a FRS so it won't one shot him we all know the damage inflicted by FRS>>>>>Afternoon tiger.
Tomohime Zazuki
09-16-2010, 07:33 PM
Finally someone who is making sense on this post
`:) Hidan power!!
Akatsuki X
09-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Thats absurd, kisame survived daytime tiger (having no armor or protection on) so kakuzu (with his iron skin on) will be more than enough to withstand it, and kakuzu will attack guy before he goes gates and just as a precaution while he is attacking guy he will turn on his iron skin so either way guy wont kill him.
Lmao at daytime tiger.
Kisame barely survived Afternoon Tiger because he's a tanking beast.
It takes Gai less time to enter gates then it takes Kakuzu to inflict serious enough damage to him.
lol he was still alive after being hit by a FRS so it won't one shot him we all know the damage inflicted by FRS>>>>>Afternoon tiger.
An incomplete FRS.
While being protected by a shield of threads.
erickuu
09-17-2010, 01:26 PM
Lmao at daytime tiger.
Kisame barely survived Afternoon Tiger because he's a tanking beast.
It takes Gai less time to enter gates then it takes Kakuzu to inflict serious enough damage to him.
An incomplete FRS.
While being protected by a shield of threads.
if kisame survived then kakuzu will survive daytime tiger as well because kakuzu can take worst attacks than kisame can plus he has iron skin so just think about that and guy cant go gates in like a split second it takes him a few seconds which is more than enough since kakuzu is fast
Invisible Fog
09-17-2010, 01:45 PM
if kisame survived then kakuzu will survive daytime tiger as well because kakuzu can take worst attacks than kisame can plus he has iron skin so just think about that and guy cant go gates in like a split second it takes him a few seconds which is more than enough since kakuzu is fast
What are you talking about? Gai goes gates before Kakuzu can even tell his mind that he's in a life or death fight. He afternoon Tigers' him, and Lee Hidden Lotus' him afterwards. They then team up on Hidan. GG
Kanuja Yotsuki
09-18-2010, 04:30 PM
What are you talking about? Gai goes gates before Kakuzu can even tell his mind that he's in a life or death fight. He afternoon Tigers' him, and Lee Hidden Lotus' him afterwards. They then team up on Hidan. GG
At least This guy makes sense. Thank you!!!!
SimpleGenin
09-18-2010, 04:33 PM
kakuzu blitz from 15 meters away before guy could go gates.. base guy never showed much speed feats. true that afternoon tiger would damage kakuzu, but the problem is, can guy open all 7 gates before kakuzu blitz
erickuu
09-19-2010, 09:22 AM
kakuzu blitz from 15 meters away before guy could go gates.. base guy never showed much speed feats. true that afternoon tiger would damage kakuzu, but the problem is, can guy open all 7 gates before kakuzu blitz
finally a person making sense.
At least This guy makes sense. Thank you!!!!
actually it doesnt make sense because they're bein one sided
What are you talking about? Gai goes gates before Kakuzu can even tell his mind that he's in a life or death fight. He afternoon Tigers' him, and Lee Hidden Lotus' him afterwards. They then team up on Hidan. GG
You're being one sided, you said that kakuzu wont even have enough time to think if its a life or death situation well same goes for guy and lee because they wont go eight gates because they dont know if its a life or death situation plus like i said kakuzu has iron skin which means even if guy does go eight gates kakuzu will have iron skin on already and survive daytime tiger and you said guy and lee will team up on hidan, Cmon that doesnt make sense (teaming up and trying to kill someone who is immortal) thats absurd, so either way or another both hidan and kakuzu are going to live.
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