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Tourune
09-10-2010, 11:47 AM
Location: Konoha

Restrictions: None

Distance: 80 Meters

Acceptions: Equal Speed

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 11:48 AM
I see from the verse description that Kessler has time travel powers. Kessler goes back in time and kills Jiraiya as a baby.

Tourune
09-10-2010, 11:51 AM
I see from the verse description that Kessler has time travel powers. Kessler goes back in time and kills Jiraiya as a baby.
Swamp Of The Underwold Holds Kessler While Jiraya Uses His Next Move Before Kessler Could Do That. And Kessler Needs The Ray Sphere To Do That + That Isnt Here

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 11:53 AM
Swamp of the Underworld can't be used since Jiraiya was killed by Kessler when he was a baby.

Additionally, his speed is listed as supersonic to hypersonic, which is faster than Jiraiya. So there's that.

Tourune
09-10-2010, 11:56 AM
Swamp of the Underworld can't be used since Jiraiya was killed by Kessler when he was a baby.

Additionally, his speed is listed as supersonic to hypersonic, which is faster than Jiraiya. So there's that.
Kessler Still Cant Go Back In Time Without The Ray Sphere

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 11:57 AM
Support this claim.

flamey234
09-10-2010, 11:59 AM
Support this claim.
It did say that in the game. I've played through it at least 5 times. he said he made the ray sphere to go back in time to further the development of the ray sphere so that it could be made in time to save the city from an evil person.

Tourune
09-10-2010, 11:59 AM
It did say that in the game. I've played through it at least 5 times. he said he made the ray sphere to go back in time to further the development of the ray sphere so that it could be made in time to save the city from an evil person.
Thank You

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 12:01 PM
According to this handy wikia the sphere's purpose is giving powers to living beings not enabling time travel. The time travel is achieved by using his electrical powers to rip a hole in time(as little sense as that makes).

flamey234
09-10-2010, 12:03 PM
According to this handy wikia the sphere's purpose is giving powers to living beings not enabling time travel. The time travel is achieved by using his electrical powers to rip a hole in time(as little sense as that makes).
wikipedia versus what the game itself says..... I'd go with what the game said.

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:04 PM
Kessler could probably blitz, but aside from that, he goes to when Jiraiya was getting killed by KN4 and kicks him when he's down.

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 12:04 PM
So you can prove that the game actually said what you claim and you're not just making it up?

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:05 PM
wikipedia versus what the game itself says..... I'd go with what the game said.

That's the same as author vs. feats. What would you say?

flamey234
09-10-2010, 12:06 PM
That's the same as author vs. feats. What would you say?
author.

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 12:06 PM
So that's a no. Kessler goes back in time and kills Jiraiya as a baby.

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:07 PM
author.

According to Kishi, Haku is lightspeed. Would you agree with that?

flamey234
09-10-2010, 12:09 PM
According to Kishi, Haku is lightspeed. Would you agree with that?
*shrugs* it's the author's story. he can say what he wants since it's his.

Tourune
09-10-2010, 12:11 PM
Skip To 5:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEBQV50s6A

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:13 PM
*shrugs* it's the author's story. he can say what he wants since it's his.

/palm.

K, but he doesn't have calculations and what not proving it. He just says what he wants. Which is unreliable.

flamey234
09-10-2010, 12:14 PM
/palm.

K, but he doesn't have calculations and what not proving it. He just says what he wants. Which is unreliable.
again, it's his story. providing the calculations would ruin the point of the story at the time. just enjoy it for what it is.

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 12:17 PM
If Haku were lightspeed it would completely break suspension of disbelief, ruining the series even more than Sasuke already had.

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:17 PM
again, it's his story. providing the calculations would ruin the point of the story at the time. just enjoy it for what it is.

Then you shouldn't be in the BG. Haku is slow. certainly not Lightspeed.

flamey234
09-10-2010, 12:19 PM
Then you shouldn't be in the BG. Haku is slow. certainly not Lightspeed.
isn't that obvious? you figure things out for yourself. He made Haku like that to make him look stronger then he is to develop the characters further. it was just a ploy and not the real thing.

Nyruss
09-10-2010, 12:20 PM
Skip To 5:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEBQV50s6A
You are aware that this proves that Kessler can time travel without the Ray Sphere, right?

Shikamaru Nara
09-10-2010, 12:22 PM
isn't that obvious? you figure things out for yourself. He made Haku like that to make him look stronger then he is to develop the characters further. it was just a ploy and not the real thing.


No. Naruto was weak as hell in the beginning. It was the real thing. And he still claims Haku to be lightspeed.