-Konoha Vs Pain, Konan-

[SimpleGenin]

Kakashi, Shikimaru, Neji, Tsunade, Naruto, Guy, Yamato, Sakura,
Tenten, Kiba, Hinata, Ibiki, Lee, Shizune, Shino, Choji, Choza, Ino, Sai, Danzo

Vs

Deva Path, Animal Path, Preta Path, Human Path, Asura Path,
Naraka Path, Konan

Location: Destroyed Konoha


State of Mind: In Character


Starting Distance: 500 Meters


Restrictions: Chibaku Tensei, Frog Song,
Ninetail form/energy


-Gai is limited to 6th gates.

-Katsuyu is out and divided.

-Animal Path's summonings are out.

-Gamabunta, Gameken, Fukasuka, Shima, Gamahiro are out.

-Kakashi has knowledge on the 5 sec interval.

-Everyone will be protecting their teammates
if possible.

It would be nice if you could also give me a percentage of how likely, in your opinion, Konoha could win against Pain and Konan

0%-100%

[mdog6190]

i think konan has a 70% chance of winning with Kakashi,Naruto,Jiraiya and maybe Guy.

[Lady Tsunade]

SotU? Wolf fang? Sage Mode? Frog Song? Afternoon Tiger? Massive healing, and I presume anime techs for Tenten and Ibiki? Konoha rapes.

[NBT]

CST or whatever that move was called stomps a mudhole.

[SimpleGenin]

SotU? Wolf fang? Sage Mode? Frog Song? Afternoon Tiger? Massive healing, and I presume anime techs for Tenten and Ibiki? Konoha rapes.
good point on the frog song.. i will restrcit that to make it more fair.
by the way Afternoon tiger is not allowed since gai is limeted to 6th gate.

[SimpleGenin]

CST or whatever that move was called stomps a mudhole.
except Katsuyu is divided and ready to heal. and by using CST, it weakes Deva path considerably.

[Semog]

Konoha would easily win because pain and konan are outnumbered, and naruto solo killed all the paths of pain in the anime, if the same would happen only konan would be left alive to fight the others so she would lose.

[Lady Tsunade]

CST or whatever that move was called stomps a mudhole.

Katsuyu tanks it. Gamabunta crushes tired out Deva Path. Using CST is just asking Pein and Konan to lose faster.

[Phoenix Wright]

Multi Headed Dog crushes and kills everyone there. It simply cannot die and will split into double the amount prior to being attacked each time, Animal can spam summons and hide meanwhile, and summon other bodies to Naraka when they die. Preta absorbs all ninjutsu based attacks as well as Yomi Numa so that'd be useless. If he dies Animal Summon; Naraka Revive. Human uses speed advantage and soul sucks all the fodders and once again when he dies he gets summoned and revived. Asura uses massive durability, flight, missile spam, and head lasers. Summon and revive when dead. Naraka stays with Animal and hides. As for Deva he kills a majority of them and fends them off with large shinra tenseis and bansho tenins. Summoned and revived when killed.

Konan is in this as well. I don't see any of the other team getting past her intangibility, plus she's there to suffocate people and she has paper clones and whatnot.

Linked vision between Pain's means they're backing up each other in battle. Especially considering Animal's summons will be wreaking havoc meanwhile on the battlefield, as well as Asura spamming, Preta protecting other members, Deva casually using large shinra tenseis or the like, Human path going around and soul sucking those he gets his hands on, etc. Then they continue coming back, and back each time they die, which arguably they won't. It's an infinite army of Pain's and finally as a last resort when everyone is weakened or whatnot shall Pain be on the losing side,

CST. Katsuyu won't be doing crap at this time of battle assuming she still has an ounce of life left after the combo the Pain paths have pulled.

[cnorwood]

SHINRA TENSI!!!!!! GG kohona

[Semog]

SHINRA TENSI!!!!!! GG kohona

And then nagato dies because he already used some minutes ago to destroy konoha, and he can only use shinra tensei with all the other paths destroyed only deva alive

[Kingsnoke]

And then nagato dies because he already used some minutes ago to destroy konoha, and he can only use shinra tensei with all the other paths destroyed only deva alive

Lolwut?

Destroyed Konoha is just the Arena. Pain didn't just Destroy it.

[cnorwood]

And then nagato dies because he already used some minutes ago to destroy konoha, and he can only use shinra tensei with all the other paths destroyed only deva alive
so all those shinra tenseis he was throwing at sage naruto were from ghost nagato

[Semog]

so all those shinra tenseis he was throwing at sage naruto were from ghost nagato

It depends on the scale of the shinra tensei, the one the other guy was talking about, that was able to kill all the konoha shinobis that were fighting him had to be massive so would probably kill him..

[cnorwood]

It depends on the scale of the shinra tensei, the one the other guy was talking about, that was able to kill all the konoha shinobis that were fighting him had to be massive so would probably kill him..
he was messing those frogs up with some of his shinra tenseis, whats stopping him from doing it to the kohona shinobis

[SimpleGenin]

-Changed some of the restriction and now Kakashi has knowledge on the five seconds interval.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

kakashi kumai deva head , and animal head , then the others 4 paths of pain can be dealed with .

[Semog]

kakashi kumai deva head , and animal head , then the others 4 paths of pain can be dealed with .


He said no kumai, and deva pain would easily dodge or interrupt it with the gravity jutsu

[SimpleGenin]

I changed the Restriction,.. I also add in a few characters

Kakashi wont use Kumui right away though IC. what do you think?

[Yellow Flash]

Kakashi uses Kamui on Deva and Animal Paths. This cuts Pain's team's chances in half. Sage Mode Naruto and Jiraiya do clean up duty. The others are there just for props.

[Nyruss]

This already happened. Pain won.

[SimpleGenin]

This already happened. Pain won.
Very different situation

[Slack 40]

Kakashi uses Kamui on Deva and Animal Paths. This cuts Pain's team's chances in half. Sage Mode Naruto and Jiraiya do clean up duty. The others are there just for props.
This ^

Oh and Gai will fart on Pain's faces

[Nyruss]

Very different situation


Not really. Adding two or three named characters and removing all the fodder won't change Pain's inevitable victory.

If anything it'll make it easier.

[SimpleGenin]

Not really. Two extras won't change Pain's inevitable victory.
Two different situation.
6 characters by the way

[Nyruss]

Four characters listed were not present or not fighting in the Invasion.

Since Pain doesn't have to waste time asking where Naruto is, he's free to kill anyone he runs into.

Naruto vs Pain goes much the same way it did in the manga, with Naruto getting nailed to the ground, only this time without a Deus Ex Machina allowing him to escape.

Shikimaru, Neji, Yamato, Sakura, Tenten, Hinata, Ibiki, Shizune, Shino, Choji, Choza, Ino and Sai are all useless. They can't do more than annoy Pain.

[Lady Tsunade]

Very different situation

Indeed. Paths were split up. And fighting different opponents. including random Jonin. They're together here. And fighting in a very different environment.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

plot ;)

[SimpleGenin]

Four characters listed were not present or not fighting in the Invasion.

Since Pain doesn't have to waste time asking where Naruto is, he's free to kill anyone he runs into.

Naruto vs Pain goes much the same way it did in the manga, with Naruto getting nailed to the ground, only this time without a Deus Ex Machina allowing him to escape.

Shikimaru, Neji, Yamato, Sakura, Tenten, Hinata, Ibiki, Shizune, Shino, Choji, Choza, Ino and Sai are all useless. They can't do more than annoy Pain.

7 people - Yamato, Danzo, Guy, Tenten, Neji, Lee, Danzo

True

Plot in so many ways

Opinion

[Nyruss]

7 people - Yamato, Danzo, Guy, Tenten, Neji, Lee, Danzo


I don't remember Yamato not being present. I forgot to count Lee. ^_^

Either way.


Plot in so many ways
Plot was what allowed Naruto to survive as long as he did.

[Semog]

Danzo and gai would help alot
Pain and konan would get pwnd

[SimpleGenin]

I don't remember Yamato not being present. I forgot to count Lee. ^_^

Either way.



Plot was what allowed Naruto to survive as long as he did.
He wasnt there, he was with Sai. lol cute

perhaps

Naruto taking out 5 paths yeah, but up agaisnt Deva, it was pretty good fight.

@ Semug Gay? LMAO.. yeah he would though

[SimpleGenin]

ROFL!! XD I misstyped, you know I meant gai..
haha trust me i did the same thing before.. even worse. at the title.. i had to get a mod to help me change it.

[RealNinja]

I dont see how Pain can win with Naruto in character. Pain will slaughter most of Konaha but that will make Naruto spaz out and turn into the fox. Out of character still loses Gai, lee, Naruto, Jiraiya, kekashi and Danzo are good for a body plus.

[Nyruss]

Naruto only turns into the fox due to extreme emotional stress. And since personal relationships don't factor into BG fights, the other Konoha-ites are just random people. He has no reason to freak out over their deaths.

[RealNinja]

Ah but its in charcater so he would. Also he doesnt need to go 9 tails pain would half of his bodies would be dead as soon as the fight gets off. Gai and lee would blitz a body each. Kekashi, Jiraiya, and Naruto would be overkill on deva. Pain is weak against genjutsu so Danzo would rape a couple of bodies. Though they are fodder the rest combined can take a body or two out. Its not like they are totaly incompetent regardless how you feel about them.

[Nyruss]

In character he would react as he would to the death of any random schmuck. Not nearly enough to activate the Kyuubi.

Pain Shinra Tensei's Gai and Lee into the nearest mountain. They're out of the picture.

Naruto and Kakashi are threats but not Jiraiya, and either way, they have no reason to target Deva, who Shinra Tenseis them into the nearest mountain.

While Danzo is trying to use genjutsu on one of the Pains one of the other Pains kills him, since he can't use Izanagi and eye genjutsu of doom at the same time.

[RealNinja]

In character he would react as he would to the death of any random schmuck. Not nearly enough to activate the Kyuubi.

Pain Shinra Tensei's Gai and Lee into the nearest mountain. They're out of the picture.

Naruto and Kakashi are threats but not Jiraiya, and either way, they have no reason to target Deva, who Shinra Tenseis them into the nearest mountain.

While Danzo is trying to use genjutsu on one of the Pains one of the other Pains kills him, since he can't use Izanagi and eye genjutsu of doom at the same time.

About time he does that a body or two would be gone.

If they dont target deva they will go around raping the rest of bodies. So deva will be forced to face them. Naruto would survive the attack and the fodder shinobi would jump him during the 5 sec interval. Shikamaru delay Tsunade smash.

But pain doesnt know that so a couple of bodies would be killed.

[Nyruss]

About time he does that a body or two would be gone.



Yes, because clearly Team Naruto has access to vast reality warping powers to make this happen without Pain preventing them from doing it.


But pain doesnt know that so a couple of bodies would be killed.


He doesn't have to know it. Since he doesn't know anything about Izanagi, he doesn't have any reason to assume it's activate at the same time as Danzo's genjutsu, meaning he will kill Danzo. GASPSHOCKSWOON!

Or he could just decide to take the chance. Danzo would be forced to intterupt his genjutsu usage in order to restore himself with Izanagi, so it's win win for Pain.

[RealNinja]

Yes, because clearly Team Naruto has access to vast reality warping powers to make this happen without Pain preventing them from doing it.



He doesn't have to know it. Since he doesn't know anything about Izanagi, he doesn't have any reason to assume it's activate at the same time as Danzo's genjutsu, meaning he will kill Danzo. GASPSHOCKSWOON!

Come now Naruto and Kakashi uses clones so about time he figures where they are at they would have murdered a couple of bodies.

Danzo would use his Genjutsu first thus killing bodies. Izanagi is a last resort.
http://www.baltimore-club.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/oh-snap.jpg

[Nyruss]

Come now Naruto and Kakashi uses clones so about time he figures where they are at they would have murdered a couple of bodies.

Kakashi and Naruto don't spam clones in battle. They use them conservatively if at all. They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain along with their clones.

Danzo would use his Genjutsu first thus killing bodies. Izanagi is a last resort.


And while he's trying to control one of Pain's bodies, one of the others kills him. Is this too complicated a concept for you to grasp?

[RealNinja]

Kakashi and Naruto don't spam clones in battle. They use them conservatively if at all. They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain along with their clones.



And while he's trying to control one of Pain's bodies, one of the others kills him. Is this too complicated a concept for you to grasp?

That deserves a slap. Naruto still spams clones. Kekashi will use his lightning clone and hide out.

The other fodder are not going to stand there and let him get killed. It a team battle.

[Nyruss]

Since you've obviously got nothing intelligent to contribute, I have no reason to further humor your garbage.

Yellow Flash is the only person who's made an intelligent post here:

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3946402&postcount=20

Kakashi's got a one in six chance of going after either of them, and in character he wouldn't even use Kamui right off the bat, same goes for Naruto and Jiraiya using Sage Mode, so they die before they can contribute anything and with them gone the only real threats are Gai and Lee who get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

Or for shits and giggles, Pain goes after Tsunade because she deserves to die more than anyone, and with Tsunade dead, Chou Shinra Tensei can't be guarded against(Katsuyu wrapping people up only served to allow Tsunade to channel her healing jutsu through Katsuyu, with Tsunade dead, Katsuyu is useless)

[RealNinja]

Well if you say so. It pretty idotic to think that pain would win in that circumstance. Most of his moves would be countered. Fodder though they may be they are fodder with feats. Thus giving pain a distraction. He uses st Tunade would use Katsuya to block it. Then the rest of the bodies are down then they blitz deva.
Naruto does use sage mode all the time now. There is no reason for him not to go into sage mode. Deva wouldnt be able to stand against the combination attacks of Naruto and Kakaishi. The fodder together are still skilled in someways whether you like them or not. Though they will probably die. Though pain has Haxxed moves he still doesnt win.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

well , i dont have to wast my time to prove that

Kakashi, Shikimaru, Neji, Tsunade, Naruto, Guy, Yamato, Sakura,
Tenten, Kiba, Hinata, jiraya , Ibiki, Lee, Shizune, Shino, Choji, Choza, Ino, Sai, Danzo

can not take the migthy pain , rofl

all pains with out deva are joks ( animal path could cuz some truble )



but no way pian can take all of thos by once , it is clear , easy , win for team konoha .


konaha rapes

[Nyruss]

If by "jokes" you mean "Superior to anyone not named Sage Mode Naruto" then yes.

[RealNinja]

If by "jokes" you mean "Superior to anyone not named Sage Mode Naruto" then yes.

Naw I think the joke is you still think pain is superior to sage mode Naruto and the rest. Alot of it was plot when Pain raped Konaha in the manga. He was killing mostly nobodies. The only body that killed anyone notable was deva.

[vinsence]

Naw I think the joke is you still think pain is superior to sage mode Naruto and the rest. Alot of it was plot when Pain raped Konaha in the manga. He was killing mostly nobodies. The only body that killed anyone notable was deva.

But he is superior. Pain lost mainly due to the nine tail and that with pain tring to capture not kill. Not to mention he turned the leaf to a creator.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

naruto vs pain is not related

read the title

all konoha vs pain .
what u think ?

[SimpleGenin]

But he is superior. Pain lost mainly due to the nine tail and that with pain tring to capture not kill. Not to mention he turned the leaf to a creator.
He isnt doing CST In Character though, he'll use that as a last resort. Also he wouldnt harm the other path and with CST, he would harm only the other path since katsuyu could protect everyone else.

[Nyruss]

CST wasn't a last resort move. He used it because he wanted to not because he was forced to.

With Tsunade dead, Katsuyu can't protect against CST.

[RealNinja]

Choji goes giant and uses his fat ass for a shield he takes one for the team.

[Akatsuki X]

I don't see whats stopping Deva from flying up and using CST to instantly kill team Konoha.

That plus animal summons, missile spam, Gedo Mazo, soulsuck, etc etc etc.

The only real threats are Kumai and SM Naruto.

But kumai is restricted am I right?

[SimpleGenin]

CST wasn't a last resort move. He used it because he wanted to not because he was forced to.

With Tsunade dead, Katsuyu can't protect against CST.

As a medical ninja and as a Hokage, she wont be charging in to fight and merely use her power for healing. She even says thats the most important job of a medical ninja. Prof of that is what she did to save konoha.

using CST in a middle of the battle would just kill the other path, and Deva wouldnt do that.

[Nyruss]

i don't know why u keep debating since all approved that konoha win ?

Anyone who thinks Konoha can win is either an idiot(as is the case with yourself) or a troll(as is the case with RealNinja)


As a medical ninja and as a Hokage, she wont be charging in to fight and merely use her power for healing. She even says thats the most important job of a medical ninja. Prof of that is what she did to save konoha.


While she's sitting there healing the others Pain Shinra Tenseis a nail into her brain, killing her instantly. He proceeds to CST the crap out of everyone else.

using CST in a middle of the battle would just kill the other path, and Deva wouldnt do thatTo use CST he has to deactivate the other Pains anyway, so that's not an obstacle.

[Akatsuki X]

no and that is the key of this topic

Okay.

So then Team Konoha has a 1/6th chance of dying a slower, longer death of Kakashi choose's Deva first. `:)

[Nyruss]

Since he's in character Kakashi won't actualy use Kamui unless he's forced to, and he'll be dead before that happens.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

Since you've obviously got nothing intelligent to contribute, I have no reason to further humor your garbage.

Yellow Flash is the only person who's made an intelligent post here:

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3946402&postcount=20




u accepted what yellow flash said am i right ???when what is the deal ???
he said konoha win


and since u consider ur self intelligent u should understand that my post is the same thing with yellow flash . and i make the post b4 him , is that make me genius ?
my post http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3946298&postcount=17



:lol:

[RealNinja]

Nope you are just being delusional. Pain is not an almighty character as folks make him out to be. He doesnt even use tactics as good as shikamaru hence naruto tricks working on him. Deva wont even get to move what is stopping shikamaru from restraing him. Nothing at all. Human, outer, Naraka all have abilities that would get trashed even by the fodder troupe of Konaha. Preta is weak against taijutsu so lee and gai rape. Asura already was killed by kakashi before. Animal would get killed by one well placed rasen shuriken. Deva just needs to be taken out the minute he is restrained by shikamaru. Only three of pain bodies are realy combat oriented.

[Nyruss]

u accepted what yellow flash said am i right ???
No, I said he was the only person who's made an intelligent post. Just because he's smart doesn't mean he's right.

[Nyruss]

1 - u said he is the only person who's made an intelligent post, and u didn't realize that my post is the same content like his post ( IQ issue )


His post:
Kakashi uses Kamui on Deva and Animal Paths. This cuts Pain's team's chances in half. Sage Mode Naruto and Jiraiya do clean up duty. The others are there just for props.

Your post:
kakashi kumai deva head , and animal head , then the others 4 paths of pain can be dealed with

Not the significant difference between the two. Note how Yellow Flash's post is actually readable and how the words are spelled correctly.




2 - how wrong post can be smart ????

The same way a wrong person can be smart.

[cnorwood]

deva flies into the air and does a massive shinra tensei. and then when the kyubi saves naruto he gets chibaku tensei'd. GG kohona

[SimpleGenin]

deva flies into the air and does a massive shinra tensei. and then when the kyubi saves naruto he gets chibaku tensei'd. GG kohona
follow the restrictions please

[cnorwood]

follow the restrictions please
shinra tensei is not part of the restriction
edit: o but the CT is, well the kyubi catces another ST then

[SimpleGenin]

shinra tensei is not part of the restriction
edit: o but the CT is, well the kyubi catces another ST then
naruto isnt even allowed to use his kyuubi energy

[RealNinja]

Nope you are just being delusional. Pain is not an almighty character as folks make him out to be. He doesnt even use tactics as good as shikamaru hence naruto tricks working on him. Deva wont even get to move what is stopping shikamaru from restraing him. Nothing at all. Human, outer, Naraka all have abilities that would get trashed even by the fodder troupe of Konaha. Preta is weak against taijutsu so lee and gai rape. Asura already was killed by kakashi before. Animal would get killed by one well placed rasen shuriken. Deva just needs to be taken out the minute he is restrained by shikamaru. Only three of pain bodies are realy combat oriented.

Read this I dont feel like rewriting .

[Nyruss]

Shikamaru gets Shinra Tenseied into the nearest mountain. He dies.

Lee and Gai, the same.
Kakashi, Naruto.

Pain isn't almighty, but he's more than strong enough to beat Konoha. He did it before without even using his best moves, only failing because of Naruto's Deus Ex Machina.

Outer Path would be Nagato, and if he's involved then Gedo Mazo solos.

The only reason you're even claiming that Konoha wins is because it's obvious that it can't and you're a troll.

[cnorwood]

naruto isnt even allowed to use his kyuubi energy
oh then this is a shinra tensei filled stomp, konan is not even needed

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

just 4 mention , pain did 4 time shinra tensai , and that didn't kill kakashi .

pain did c shinra tensai and that didn't even kill tsunadi .


+ deva is the only issue and he got his head kumed up in all scenario ( the others pain are joks )

jokes to the ninjas on the level of konohamaru :D

[RealNinja]

Shikamaru gets Shinra Tenseied into the nearest mountain. He dies.

Lee and Gai, the same.
Kakashi, Naruto.

Pain isn't almighty, but he's more than strong enough to beat Konoha. He did it before without even using his best moves, only failing because of Naruto's Deus Ex Machina.

Outer Path would be Nagato, and if he's involved then Gedo Mazo solos.

The only reason you're even claiming that Konoha wins is because it's obvious that it can't and you're a troll.

Regardless of what you are saying shikamaru restrained Hidan who strength has been proven. Deva if retrained cant even use his powers.
So everything you just said is a wash.
You get the troll of the day reward.
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/youBoat/data/606/troll.jpg

[SimpleGenin]

Kakashi, Shikimaru, Neji, Tsunade, Naruto, Guy, Yamato, Sakura,

Tenten, Kiba, Hinata, Ibiki, Lee, Shizune, Shino, Choji, Choza, Ino, Sai, Danzo

Vs

Deva Path, Animal Path, Preta Path, Human Path, Asura Path,
Naraka Path, Konan

Location: Destroyed Konoha


State of Mind: In Character


Starting Distance: 500 Meters


Restrictions: Chibaku Tensei, Frog Song,
Ninetail form/energy


-Gai is limited to 6th gates.

-Katsuyu is out and divided.

-Animal Path's summonings are out.

-Gamabunta, Gameken, Fukasuka, Shima, Gamahiro are out.

-Kakashi has knowledge on the 5 sec interval.

-Everyone will be protecting their teammates
if possible.




0%-100%


Naruto + Kakashi + Shikamaru + Ma and Pa > Deva

Danzo + Ibiki + Sakura+ Kiba + Gamabunta/3 > Animal Path + Summonings

Guy + Lee + Yamato + Neji + Choza + Choji + Sai > Rest of the Path

Tenten + Shino + Shizune + Hinata > Konan


So in the end Konoha is the victor

[Nyruss]

Naruto + Kakashi + Shikamaru + Ma and Pa

They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.


Danzo + Ibiki + Sakura+ Kiba + Gamabunta/3 > Animal Path + Summonings


That's not remotely true.


Guy + Lee + Yamato + Neji + Choza + Choji + Sai



They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.


Tenten + Shino + Shizune + Hinata > Konan


Somehow I doubt that.

So in the end Pain is the victor.

[SimpleGenin]

They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.




That's not remotely true.




They get Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.



Somehow I doubt that.

So in the end Pain is the victor.

because thats what happened with kakashi right?

because sakura hasnt shown the feats to take down a summoning right?

not with kakashi's knowledge on ST and gates guy and lee

it doesnt matter what u doubt, fact is konan doesnt have feats

[Nyruss]

+ konohamaru can rape one of the pains alone :p

konohamaru will help allot ^ ^
1: There is no part of that that is true.
2: Konohamaru isn't present.


because thats what happened with kakashi right?

Plot. If Pain had killed Kakashi the manga would have been deprived of an uninteresting character, leaving room for other, more interesting characters to get developed. Heaven forbid that happen. That might actually cause Naruto to increase in quality.

because sakura hasnt shown the feats to take down a summoning right?

Plot. If Jiraiya had trouble with him then Sakura's boned.

not with kakashi's knowledge on ST and gates guy and lee

What Kakashi knows isn't relevant since he's already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain. Same with Gai and Lee.

it doesnt matter what u doubt, fact is konan doesnt have feats

What feats she does have put her above any of Team Subfodder.

[Semog]

Shikamaru gets Shinra Tenseied into the nearest mountain. He dies.

Lee and Gai, the same.
Kakashi, Naruto.

Pain isn't almighty, but he's more than strong enough to beat Konoha. He did it before without even using his best moves, only failing because of Naruto's Deus Ex Machina.

Outer Path would be Nagato, and if he's involved then Gedo Mazo solos.

The only reason you're even claiming that Konoha wins is because it's obvious that it can't and you're a troll.

Stop sayiing shinra tensei to the nearest mountain, if he uses shinra tensei so mani times in that magnitude he dies!

[RealNinja]

What true is no way deva can use shinrai tensai off while he is restrained by shikamaru. That sec he is restrained Rasen shuriken.
Another true fact is most of pain bodies has been killed by the fodder troupe already before.
Another tidbit is shino would rape Konan alone.

[Nyruss]

Stop sayiing shinra tensei to the nearest mountain, if he uses shinra tensei so mani times in that magnitude he dies!

Have you got anything to support this claim in any way?


What true is no way deva can use shinrai tensai off while he is restrained by shikamaru


♪ Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. ♪

Another true fact is most of pain bodies has been killed by the fodder troupe already before.

Plot.

[Semog]

Have you got anything to support this claim in any way?

Yes, when he used shinra tensei to destroy the village he bleed alot and its said that his life time is reduced when he use shinra tensei in that magnitude

[Nyruss]

Yes, when he used shinra tensei to destroy the village he bleed alot and its said that his life time is reduced when he use shinra tensei in that magnitude
Shinra Tensei =/= Chou Shinra Tensei. Keep trying, Dingleberry.

[Semog]

Well shinra tensei cant send them to the nearest mountain, only chou shinra tensei ^^

[SimpleGenin]

1: There is no part of that that is true.
2: Konohamaru isn't present.

true


Plot. If Pain had killed Kakashi the manga would have been deprived of an uninteresting character, leaving room for other, more interesting characters to get developed. Heaven forbid that happen. That might actually cause Naruto to increase in quality.

Nagato revived everyone killed. Deva had no reason to not kill kakashi with ST


Plot. If Jiraiya had trouble with him then Sakura's boned.

Alone he had trouble with them and he was out numbered. PLot? left for debate, alot of things is Plot

its kinda funny how Hinata's dad, the leader of the Hyuga, was suddenly out of the village

funny how yamata and sai was out also

What Kakashi knows isn't relevant since he's already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain. Same with Gai and Lee.

With the knowledge of ST, kakashi resorts to Kumui

What feats she does have put her above any of Team Subfodder.

Individually


green

[SimpleGenin]

Well shinra tensei cant send them to the nearest mountain, only chou shinra tensei ^^
it sent the 3 frogs to the mountains.
dats what his gonna say.
but Deva wouldnt use St of that scale in the middle of the battle unless he wants to hurt the other path.

like i said, ppl will be trying to protect each other if possible

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

believe me , pain shenra tensai cant take all of them to the nearest mountain , it didn't do that to kakashi 4 time .



even cou shinra tensei cant , i didn't see tsunadi on the nearest mountain , that is what we got of feats about shinra tensai and cst .
no plots when it comes to the feats , specially when the are used once in the manga .

[Nyruss]

Nagato revived everyone killed. Deva had no reason to not kill kakashi with ST


But he still didn't. Hence, plot.


With the knowledge of ST, kakashi resorts to Kumui



He doesn't have knowledge of ST, he's only got knowledge of its 5 second interval, so no Kamui for Kakashi until long after he's been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain subsequently dying.

[SimpleGenin]

believe me , pain shenra tensai cant take all of them to the nearest mountain , it didn't do that to kakashi 4 time .


because Pain has the power to change the force of ST. what he use against the toad summonings had more force. prof of that is deva's ability to launch a nail towards kakashi.. that suggest that he is able to control the force of ST


even cou shinra tensei cant , i didn't see tsunadi on the nearest mountain , that is what we got of feats about shinra tensai and cst .
no plots when it comes to the feats , specially when the are used once in the manga .


True. but the fact that pain blasted the toads away means he is capable of doing it.




konoha still wins. the other path arent immune to the affect of ST, if Deva used a massive scale of ST, it would harm the other path aswell.

[Nyruss]

Im not even gonna discuss more, konoha already lost. kkthxbai

Toodles.

[RealNinja]

Have you got anything to support this claim in any way?



♪ Wrong wrong wrong wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. ♪



Plot.

You say wrong but you have nothing to suggest that you are right. Shikamaru restrained Hidan so that seems more than sufficient enough to hold Pain for a minute plus. Which is death for him.
You see plot but I say feat. Half of pain bodies are for intelligence gathering.
You say soul suck I say sit on by choji.
You say absorbtion I say speed blitzed by Gai.
You say summon I say yammato grabs animal and break him.
You say preta I say lee blitzes him.
you say outer resurection I say smashed by sakura or tsunade
You say naraka I say weak anyone from the fodder troupe can take care of him.
You say st I say he is already dead.

[SimpleGenin]

But he still didn't. Hence, plot.


but it proved your plot idea wrong about kakashi dying. point is he could have died anytime since he was gonna get revived anyways.


He doesn't have knowledge of ST, he's only got knowledge of its 5 second interval, so no Kamui for Kakashi until long after he's been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain subsequently dying.

because IC Deva would just use a ST of that scale even with the other paths around


green

[Nyruss]

but it proved your plot idea wrong about kakashi dying. point is he could have died anytime since he was gonna get revived anyways.



But he didn't, and since Pain had no reason not to kill him, plot. What part of this do you not get?

Or do you get it and you are just trolling like your dupe, RealNinja?


because IC Deva would just use a ST of that scale even with the other paths around


Shinra Tensei is as directional as Pain wants it to be, be it uni- or omni-, so he can Shinra Tensei people into the nearest mountain until he's blue in the face without having to worry about hitting one the other Pains.

[Nyruss]

i feel sorry 4 pain lovely fan
Good for you, no one cares.

whats plot is kakashi not using kumui on Deva. thats plot my good sir.

Maybe, but it doesn't matter.


i ask for a prof of

It's directional enough for him to shoot a small nail and for him to launch three giant toads that are surrounding him.



i thought u went toodles. haha

No, I was saying goodbye to whatshisnuts. :)

[Susanoo's Eyes]

@SimpleGenin Chapter 434 page 5, Naruto is Shinra Tenseied before he punches Preta's throat therfore it is directional and he can pick who he Shinra Tensei

[SimpleGenin]

Good for you, no one cares.
no comment



Maybe, but it doesn't matter.

it does matter since kakashi was technically able to kill deva, but plot went in. i actually got this idea from u. i remember u saying kakashi should have used kumui but plot no jutsu came in.. or something like that



It's directional enough for him to shoot a small nail and for him to launch three giant toads that are surrounding him.


that doesnt prove that he could control who gets hit and not in a middle of a battle. in the battle ith the toads, the other path wasnt an issue so deva had no reason to hold back



No, I was saying goodbye to whatshisnuts. :)


green


At Susano - you mean when deva used it when naruto was about to punch Preta? preta was laying down while naruto was standing up. that doesnt prove that he could use it in a middle of the battle without harming the other path.

imagine deva standing in a circle where ppl are fighting with his other paths around him. im simply saying path hasnt shown the ability of usinq 1 ST to blow away every one except the other path.. if that makes sense.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

@SimpleGenin Chapter 434 page 5, Naruto is Shinra Tenseied before he punches Preta's throat therfore it is directional and he can pick who he Shinra Tensei


that is because Preta's was submerged on the ground

[Nyruss]

it does matter since kakashi was technically able to kill deva, but plot went in.

There's a difference between plot and in character reactions. Kakashi didn't go in all guns blazing, choosing instead to test his enemy with less chakra intensive jutsus and his own skills. This is an in character reaction.

When Kakashi was pinned to the ground with Pain about to put a nail in him, he had the chance to Kamui Pain but he chose instead to Kamui the nail. He knew that both options would end in him dead, so he had no reason not to target Pain and remove him as a threat to the rest of Konoha. But he still chose to use Kamui on the nail. This is plot.



i actually got this idea from u. i remember u saying kakashi should have used kumui but plot no jutsu came in.. or something like that

I'm sure I've said that before, though I can't recall exactly when. Either way, odds are it was a post made in context of Kakashi being default bloodlusted like all BG fights, but since he is in character here, that doesn't apply.

[Susanoo's Eyes]

@Lucky.Kakashi doesn't change the fact Deva didn't injury Preta with Shinra Tensei, and how is one's throat submerged on the ground?

edited: How is one submerged on the ground?

[SimpleGenin]

There's a difference between plot and in character reactions. Kakashi didn't go in all guns blazing, choosing instead to test his enemy with less chakra intensive jutsus and his own skills. This is an in character reaction.

When Kakashi was pinned to the ground with Pain about to put a nail in him, he had the chance to Kamui Pain but he chose instead to Kamui the nail. He knew that both options would end in him dead, so he had no reason not to target Pain and remove him as a threat to the rest of Konoha. But he still chose to use Kamui on the nail. This is plot.

im not trying to be sarcastic but to me that means that this time kakashi wont be holding back due to plot. so even IC he can still use his Kumui.. and take in mind Katsuya showed the feats of "tanking" and healing ppl from CST, which is more massive then the regualr ST. this means Kakashi will definantly have the chance to use kumui. at least in my opinion.




I'm sure I've said that before, though I can't recall exactly when. Either way, odds are it was a post made in context of Kakashi being default bloodlusted like all BG fights, but since he is in character here, that doesn't apply.


i remember u telling that to some ppl because i remember laughing at ur plot no jutsu thing.. my belief is kakashi will use Kumui in the fight, not from the start but he will use it eventually.




green


preta was laying down, and naruto was standing up. i admitted that his capable of doing something like that but not when deva is completely sourounded by the path and konoha ninjas.

[The_Wanker]

zomg like konoha has this. I agree that Konoha can like speed blitz pain and like kill him instantly. Look at how Naruto killed pain, he won because he is just awesomeorz and with Konoha helping Kakashi Kamui's naruto's head off by accident, then gets eaten by the dog thingy and proceeds to get missile spammed to death and head lazored. God Realm stabs them all with chakra rods and control them to stab their teammates.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

@Lucky.Kakashi doesn't change the fact Deva didn't injury Preta with Shinra Tensei, and how is one's throat submerged on the ground?

edited: How is one submerged on the ground?
see the page b4 the page that u gaved to me , and see what naruto did to him .

[Susanoo's Eyes]

see the page b4 the page that u gaved to me , and see what naruto did to him .

If you mean Preta is on the ground then yes he is on the ground, but when you say submerged on the ground that doesn't make any sense. My point is Deva can choose who he wants to Shinra Tensei.

[SimpleGenin]

If you mean Preta is on the ground then yes he is on the ground, but when you say submerged on the ground that doesn't make any sense. My point is Deva can choose who he wants to Shinra Tensei.

but is he skilled enough to do it while surrounded by the other paths and konoha ninja is the question?

[Susanoo's Eyes]

but is he skilled enough to do it while surrounded by the other paths and konoha ninja is the question?

hmmm I don't think he is that skilled as if he is going to have the shinra Tensei curve around the path avoiding them however, due to Pain all being one person, they should manage to coordinate to dodge the ST. So being I say no he is but at the same time isn't skilled enough to ST without hitting the other paths.

[SimpleGenin]

hmmm I don't think he is that skilled as if he is going to have the shinra Tensei curve around the path avoiding them however, due to Pain all being one person, they should manage to coordinate to dodge the ST. So being I say no he is but at the same time isn't skilled enough to ST without hitting the other paths.
point well taken about the link mind and vision. but it still does not prove that their able to do so. its a good point though. with Tsunade healing through katsuyu, its gonna be hard for pain to kill konoha ninjas. especially if you concider that they will be trying to protect each other in the battle..


right now where it stands.. i think there is about 70-80% chance that konoha will win.. this may change concidering in the next chapter were going to find out what Konan is capable off.. exciting.. ;)

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

If you mean Preta is on the ground then yes he is on the ground, but when you say submerged on the ground that doesn't make any sense. My point is Deva can choose who he wants to Shinra Tensei.


just b4 any thing else , who do u thing would win ?


konoha or pian "?

[Susanoo's Eyes]

I am leaning towards Pein, seeing Kakashi is the only one with info, and being that the rest of Konoha dosen't know about Pein's powers, which is like wise for pein seeing he has no knowledge of What konoha can due. So Animal path boss summons Cerberus and ram, while Asura Missile spams, Deva Shinra Tensei's/Bansho Ten'in's random/or chosen People. Even if Kakashi Kamui's Deva's head with Kamui, Naraka resurrects him, but due to IC Kakashi doesn't Kamui right off the bat. So my standing is 56.33% Towards Pein Winning this.

Edited: With Konan added to the mix she can most likely prove as a distraction with the poorman's Logia intangibility. Though she can prob suffocate or Paper storm the fodder/sub fodders of team konoha.

[SimpleGenin]

I am leaning towards Pein, seeing Kakashi is the only one with info, and being that the rest of Konoha dosen't know about Pein's powers, which is like wise for pein seeing he has no knowledge of What konoha can due. So Animal path boss summons Cerberus and ram, while Asura Missile spams, Deva Shinra Tensei's/Bansho Ten'in's random/or chosen People. Even if Kakashi Kamui's Deva's head with Kamui, Naraka resurrects him, but due to IC Kakashi doesn't Kamui right off the bat. So my standing is 56.33% Towards Pein Winning this.

atleast you concider that it wont be a rape.

with healing powers to back up konoha, it wont be a cake walk for anyone.

[RealNinja]

Lets me be serious for a moment. There is one character evryone overlooked on purpose that would either kill deva or rape most of pain bodies Gai. He is already at 6 gates if he uses morning peacock on deva it would look like luffy beating rob lucci. Deva wouldnt get shinrai tensai off in time and the shockwave of the blows would protect Gai.

[Nyruss]

Gai's already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

[RealNinja]

Not before he gets morning peacock off. Pain wouldnt even get his hands up fast enough. You already seen how fast gai is. If pain blocks Gai attack he would get backdoored by Kakaishi or Naruto. Its a doomed fight for Pain.

[Nyruss]

Pain doesn't need to use his hands to use Shinra Tensei.

Pain is fast enough to react to FRS, which is faster than Gai.

Kakashi and Naruto have already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain, not like it matters since Pain can dodge anything they throw at him.

[RealNinja]

Nope that wouldnt happen for a couple of reason. One Gai would spam the hell out morning peacock. So pain would be preoccupied blocking it like he did against 6 tailed naruto. Naruto would take shinra tensei or us his clones to stop himself. Pain would still be getting spammed. So he cant stop FRS.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

deva cant use his shenra tensai with out his head

[Nyruss]

Kakashi can't take off Deva's head if he's already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

[RealNinja]

I see you are going to take the path of a troll today.

[Nyruss]

It's already well established that is Pain incapable of losing this match. You are the one trolling by refusing to accept this fact. I suspect LUCKY.KAKASHI legitimately believes that Pain would lose, whereas you by your own admission vote for the losing side in order to make people angry because it amuses you.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

Kakashi can't take off Deva's head if he's already been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.


kakashi kumed super sonic arrow , did u forget ur whining about that?

[RealNinja]

Ah I never said that I vote for the losing side. What I said was I choose whatever side I want. I like to choose underdogs from time to time but that is not the case now. Anybody who knows Gai would know that his attacks would overwhelm even deva. Just because you say Pain wins does not make it so. So stop bringing up what I said or didnt say and give an actual counter arguement.

[Nyruss]

kakashi kumed super sonic arrow , did u forget ur whining about that?
And Pain Shinra Tenseid a hypersonic Futon Rasenshuriken. Guess which is faster?


Anybody who knows Gai would know that his attacks would overwhelm even deva
Not if he's been Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

[RealNinja]

And Pain Shinra Tenseid a hypersonic Futon Rasenshuriken. Guess which is faster?
And Gai sent out over thousands of supersonic punches. Guess which one would give out? Dont forget pain interval.

[Akatsuki X]

Ah I never said that I vote for the losing side. What I said was I choose whatever side I want. I like to choose underdogs from time to time but that is not the case now. Anybody who knows Gai would know that his attacks would overwhelm even deva. Just because you say Pain wins does not make it so. So stop bringing up what I said or didnt say and give an actual counter arguement.

Cause it seems like you always choose the losing side in every thread you post on.

Gai can't overwhelm Deva when he has been killed already by Human Path who ripped his soul out.

And please don't neg me for disagreeing with you which you have already done on several occasions. ;)

[RealNinja]

I dont neg. Do I seem like a person who neg? I get omniraped on rep as it is for these bg threads.
Why choose the winning side all the time that makes it aboring thread when everbody agrees.
Human would get demolished before he even touches Gai. He has to make contact.

[LUCKY.KAKASHI]

And Pain Shinra Tenseid a hypersonic Futon Rasenshuriken. Guess which is faster?

now it is about guessing ?:shock::?:


i think no need 4 all konaoha to take pain


naruto (sm) , akakshi , gai , danzo (with izanagi ) can solo



.



do u have prove that st works on izanagi of danzo ?

[Nyruss]

naruto (sm) , akakshi , gai , danzo (with izanagi ) can solo No they can't.

do u have prove that st works on izanagi of danzo ?


All techniques work on Danzo, even when he's using Izanagi. The only thing Izanagi does is allow Danzo to erase the damage done by them. Meaning if Pain Shinra Tenseis him into orbit, there's nothing he can do about it.

[SimpleGenin]

dude this battleground is all about opinion. so the "lossing" side really depends on who's judging it. in this thread, i feel like i already explained pretty well why i think konoha stands a very good chance of winning the fight. the only problem that really posses a threat against konoha is ST and animal path summonings and that is it. The summoning might be powerful but they got taken down by Gamabunta/toads and Naruto. So Im saying Konoha stands a good chance of winning.

and i understand in the BG your suppose to debate until u get a winner but in the end it all boils down to opinion.

[Nyruss]

dude this battleground is all about opinion.


Opinions can be wrong. For example: Your opinion is that Pain loses. This is wrong.

[SimpleGenin]

Opinions can be wrong. For example: Your opinion is that Pain loses. This is wrong.
and thats your opinion that my opinion is wrong. and i respect that. you dont see me baiting people just because they have different opinion

[Nyruss]

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. And I'm not baiting anyone.

[RealNinja]

Nope it seem like a pretty good opinion to me. Need to start putting polls in the bg that would solve alot of issues and debates.

[SimpleGenin]

It's not an opinioln, it's a fact. And I'm not baiting anyone.
its not fact, and thats a fact. yes you are, once you see someone having different opinion then you, you start being sarcastic bout. you simply have no respect of others people opinion. in this thread your free to believe who you think will win but have some respect towards other ppl

[Nyruss]

I have respect for people's opinions when their opinions are right. Your opinions are not right so I have no respect for them.

It is a fact that your opinion is wrong, just as it is a fact that Pain can't lose this. ;)

[RealNinja]

Oh using the troll card again. But alas pain has no feat to suggest that he can face down Gai, Kaikaishi,and Naruto and walking away. Now that is laughable. So the question is who really is the troll? I will give you a clue.

His name is Dudemeister

[Nyruss]

But alas Pain has no feat to suggest that he can face down Gai, Kaikaishi,and Naruto and walking away other than Shinra Tensei.


Yes, I know.


So the question is who really is the troll? I will give you a clue. His name is RealNinja, by his own admission.


Yes, I know that too.

When have I neg you never. If I did it was when I first got here

You negged me for this. I know it was you because you're the only idiot with any reason to neg me for it who isn't in the red.

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3951683#post3951683

[SimpleGenin]

I have respect for people's opinions when their opinions are right. Your opinions are not right so I have no respect for them.

It is a fact that your opinion is wrong, just as it is a fact that Pain can't lose this. ;)
we judge things based on our individual opinions. so your statement is just another opinion.

it is not fact, i showed enough prof that konoha stands a good chance in this fight. Pain can possibly lose this.

[Nyruss]

My statement is also a fact. ;)

You've shown nothing to prove that Konoha can win and, in fact, have completely ignored Pain's blatant superiority to them.

And no, we don't judge by individual opinions, we judge based on which character is actually capable of winning. Since Pain is that character in this case, he would logically be the victor were you and the Retard Squad not so intent on wanking Team Konoha raw while outright ignoring what Pain is capable of.

I don't even know why I'm even bothering. Bile Fascination, I guess.

[RealNinja]

Yes, I know.



Yes, I know that too.



You negged me for this. I know it was you because you're the only idiot with any reason to neg me for it who isn't in the red.

http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3951683#post3951683

It wasnt me sir if I did it I would sign my name. As much I am in the bg why would I choose today to derep you.

So stop trolling.

Lets get to the point. Gai would speed blitz pain. If pain blocks Gai attacks he would still be offed by Kakaishi or Naruto. So lets stop the pretense.

[cnorwood]

WAIT THIS IS THE SAME KONAN WHO MESSED UP MADARA AND RIPPED OFF HIS ARM, again konan+pein stomp

[Nyruss]

Gai would speed blitz pain. Gai gets Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

If pain blocks Gai attacks he would still be offed by Kakaishi or NarutoPain dodges anything they throw at him for the five seconds it takes before he Shinra Tenseis them into the nearest mountain.

So lets stop the pretense.

Please do.

Since you're willing to stop trolling and pretending that Pain loses, I'll take the victory I achieved back on...oh, page two I think it was(or was it three. I forget. Either way.), and take my leave of this abortion of a thread. Ta.

[SimpleGenin]

My statement is also a fact. ;)

You've shown nothing to prove that Konoha can win and, in fact, have completely ignored Pain's blatant superiority to them.

And no, we don't judge by individual opinions, we judge based on which character is actually capable of winning. Since Pain is that character in this case, he would logically be the victor were you and the Retard Squad not so intent on wanking Team Konoha raw while outright ignoring what Pain is capable of.

i didnt underestimate anyone in this battle.
thats why i restricted's pains most powerfull attack.

i know deva path can beat almost anyone in the naruto series, but i doubt he could beat konoha working together. that is my opinion though.

[RealNinja]

Gai gets Shinra Tenseid into the nearest mountain.

Pain dodges anything they throw at him for the five seconds it takes before he Shinra Tenseis them into the nearest mountain.



Please do.

Since you're willing to stop trolling and pretending that Pain loses, I'll take the victory I achieved back on...oh, page two I think it was(or was it three. I forget. Either way.), and take my leave of this abortion of a thread. Ta.

What do you base Gai getting shinra tenseid? Nothing whatsoever.

Pain would get a clean shinra tensei off.

Why dont you go kick rocks and blow some bubbles.:lol:

[J-Sun Tasogare]

You guys need to cool down and stop spamming or this will be locked.

[Nyruss]

Lock it anyway, it passed the point where it's going to contribute anything useful seven pages ago.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Lock it anyway, it passed the point where it's going to contribute anything useful seven pages ago.
If their is still room for a debate without any flaming or spamming it doesn't need to be locked, but if it amounts to any more than it will be.

[SimpleGenin]

Soooooo. as i was saying before.

a small size ST, shouldnt be a problem to kakashi because

1) he got hit multiple times by it

2) even if its in character, he'll be able to use Kumui in time

3) Katsuyu protected the village from harm, so it should be able to protect them from ST.

4) gated lee and guy are faster then atleast 5 of them paths

5) Ma and Pa's water jutsu could drill to the akatsuki's summonings

and more.

[RealNinja]

Konaha won this battle a long time ago on this thread we just had some Pain fanatics slowing down the execution.

[cnorwood]

in this chapter konan is whoopin madara, i dont think they could beat her

[SimpleGenin]

in this chapter konan is whoopin madara, i dont think they could beat her

thats why i said it will depend this week and next week on the decision on this fight

right now im sticking with Konoha having a good 75% on winning this.
that could change though with the next two chapter. right now i still believe Shino being able to own her with chakra/paper eating bugs.

[SimpleGenin]

Based on Konan's fight with Madara, I think Konoha has about 55% of winning the fight against Pain and Konan.

[Nyruss]

You mean outside of the fact that Pain has a 100% chance of winning?

[SimpleGenin]

You mean outside of the fact that Pain has a 100% chance of winning?
stop trollin. you have ur opinion and i have mine.

"In cases with Dudemeister I find it best to just ignore him as he is a BG troll"

-from one of your friend.

[Nyruss]

Claiming Pain has no chance of losing when he has no chance of losing is not trolling.

Calling me a troll, however, is. What 321zigzag3 says about me is not relevant to Pain's victory.

[SimpleGenin]

Claiming Pain has no chance of losing when he has no chance of losing is not trolling.

Calling me a troll, however, is. What 321zigzag3 says about me is not relevant to Pain's victory.
saying that pain wins 100% is trolling.. atleast say 99% haha cuz 100% is just not realistic.

321zigzag3? what? wow it seems like u dont even know who's talkin behind ur back.

anyways.. like i said i think konoha has 55% in winning the fight. after i read the latest chapter, it seems like konan would really be a big asset. If she was bloodlusted, she would rape anyone's butt.. but i was dissapointed that she didnt show much speed feats. they should show more speed feats for her.. also tenten's paper bomb could harm her stil aswell as shino's bugs.

[Nyruss]

saying that pain wins 100% is trolling.. atleast say 99% haha cuz 100% is just not realistic.

Ok then, Pain has a 99% chance of winning, the remaining 1% being what would happen if Pain literally just stood there and let Konoha attack him without doing anything to protect himself.

He stomped the place flat while split up and having most of his bodies destroyed. The only reason he lost is because of plot. If you really think he can't win if he sticks together and has his bodies work as a team to counter their weaknesses then you've got another thing coming.

321zigzag3? what? wow it seems like u dont even know who's talkin behind ur back.

He's the only person on here that I consider to be a friend. It doesn't really matter who said it either way, or even if anyone said it and you're just making things up in a misguided attempt to make me feel bad.(in which case :oldryoma)

also tenten's paper bomb could harm her stil aswell as shino's bugs.
Paper bombs kill Shino's bugs before they get the chance to eat the chakra in the paper.


EDIT: Meanwhile, I won't be wasting anymore time with this thread, so toodles. :)