CM2 Kidomaru VS Sasori

[SimpleGenin]

Location: Forest filled with trees


State Of Mind: In Charater / but intent to kill


Starting Distance: 75 Meters away from each other


Restriction: None

-Kidomaru starts in CM2.

-Kidomaru knows about poison.

-Sasori starts with the Kazekage out.

-Sasori knows about kidomaru's strong spider webs.

[Nyruss]

Kidomaru snipes him from the moon.

[321zigzag3]

So why can't Sasori evade it to the side or something?

[The 1st Hokage]

Without knowledge of the Chakra Canister, Kido gets destroyed by Iron Sand varients.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Iron Sand, anyone?

Heart Transfer > Arrows, despite Dudemeister wank.

[takuya]

What sense did that make?
Anyway, Kidomaru doesn't even know where to aim to kill Sasori. He doesn't know about Sasori's heart.

[Nyruss]

If you really think Kidomaru can't hit Sasori's heart when he can hit Neji's blind spot without trying you must be smoking something stronger than usual.

If he wants to go for the kill he'll aim for something that will guarantee death. Something like the heart or the head. And since the heart is easier to hit than the head and since Sasori's got a big ol' target painted on it, that just makes it easier to hit.

[SimpleGenin]

Without knowledge of the Chakra Canister, Kido gets destroyed by Iron Sand varients.

not if he cant see kidomaru.

dudemeister is actually not wanking.

[321zigzag3]

If you really think Kidomaru can't hit Sasori's heart when he can hit Neji's blind spot without trying you must be smoking something stronger than usual.

If he wants to go for the kill he'll aim for something that will guarantee death. Something like the heart. And since Sasori's got a big ol' target painted on it, that just makes it easier to hit.

Hello?

So why can't Sasori evade it to the side or something?

[SageoftheSixPaths]

If you really think Kidomaru can't hit Sasori's heart when he can hit Neji's blind spot without trying you must be smoking something stronger than usual.
Meh, it's okay. Not as good as the stuff Bill got me last week, but I make it work.

And how exactly is he going to hit said spot when Sasori can heart transfer faster than anything Kidomaru can do?

[The 1st Hokage]

If you really think Kidomaru can't hit Sasori's heart when he can hit Neji's blind spot without trying you must be smoking something stronger than usual.
And if you think think Kido can hit Sasori's Chakra Canister with knowledge, you are... /Can't come up with insult
not if he cant see kidomaru.
Kido don't know what to shoot. He shoots Sasori, and if it doesn't hit his 'Heart' then Sasori lives.

[Nyruss]

Kidomaru's arrows are fast enough to create shockwaves and huge ass craters when they hit.

In what way is Sasori's heart transfer fast enough to avoid getting sniped?

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Kidomaru's arrows are fast enough to create shockwaves and huge ass craters when they hit.

In what way is Sasori's heart transfer fast enough to avoid getting sniped?
Because it's near instantaneous. Heart Transfer has been calced at supersonic speeds. It moved faster than Chiyo or Sakura could track, so that's pretty damn fast for Naruto.

Huge ass craters doesn't = speed. It took a decent amount of time for the arrow to reach Neji, and he had time to react to the attack even when fatally injured. Neji's best reaction feats are low supersonic at best. Heart Transfer > Arrows.

[Nyruss]

What chapter was the Sasori fight, I need to confirm this to make sure you're not just making crap up.

[The 1st Hokage]

Kidomaru's arrows are fast enough to create shockwaves and huge ass craters when they hit.

In what way is Sasori's heart transfer fast enough to avoid getting sniped?
To bad Sasori doesn't have a supersonic technique that makes those arrows look like toys. Oh wait, he does. It's called Iron Sand Drizzle

[Nyruss]

To bad Sasori doesn't have a supersonic technique that makes those arrows look like toys. Oh wait, he does. It's called Iron Sand Drizzle

What's there to use it on? The trees? He doesn't know where Kidomaru is.

[takuya]

What chapter was the Sasori fight, I need to confirm this to make sure you're not just making crap up.He's not making it up. Sakura and Chiyo wasn't aware that the "Heart" in Sasori's chest had transferred to a puppet on the ground behind Sakura. That's how Sakura ended up getting stabbed in the stomach.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

What chapter was the Sasori fight, I need to confirm this to make sure you're not just making crap up.
Ugh. I hate when people make me look things up. It's so much effort. `~(

I'll be back in a year or so when I've found it. Holla back girl.

[The 1st Hokage]

What's there to use it on? The trees? He doesn't know where Kidomaru is.
So Sasori can't find Kido, yet Kido knows exactly where Sasori is? Blasphemy!!!

[takuya]

What's there to use it on? The trees? He doesn't know where Kidomaru is.The opposite is true; Kidomaru doesn't know where Sasori is.

[SimpleGenin]

So how excactly could Sasori kill Kidomaru in his turf?
Kidomaro knows about the poison so he'll stay away and probibly put layers of metal thing around his body so the problem of poison is gone basically..
Kidomaru could just keep shooting sasori until sasori's heart gets hit.

[Nyruss]

He's not making it up. Sakura and Chiyo wasn't aware that the "Heart" in Sasori's chest had transferred to a puppet on the ground behind Sakura. That's how Sakura ended up getting stabbed in the stomach.


That's not helpful at all. Give me a chapter or I'll write you off as Just Another Idiot.


The opposite is true; Kidomaru doesn't know where Sasori is.

Kidomaru's got much better eyesight than Sasori and he's much smarter. He figures it out and snipes Sasori before he knows what's happening, precluding the use of Heart Transfer.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Poison gas won't be stopped by some armor. And Iron Sand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any of Kido's defenses.

@Dudemeister: I usually use OM for looking things up in regards to HST manga. I didn't know they weren't doing manga anymore until just now, so I can't really look the chapter up, as I don't have a site that hosts Naruto on it that I know of. The only one I know posts the most recent chapter and then takes it down for legal purposes. Basically, you can find it yourself or trust me. xD

[The 1st Hokage]

That's not helpful at all. Give me a chapter or I'll write you off as Just Another Idiot.




Kidomaru's got much better eyesight than Sasori and he's much smarter. He figures it out and snipes Sasori before he knows what's happening, precluding the use of Heart Transfer.Where's the chapter that proves Kido has better eyesite?

[321zigzag3]

So why can't Sasori just sidestep or something like that?

Unless Sasori is like weakened Neji of pretimeskep in reaction and reflexes.

Also Heart Transfer is akin to like teleportation. Sasori can "teleport" through his puppets. Its likely nearly instant not supersonic.

[takuya]

That's not helpful at all. Give me a chapter or I'll write you off as Just Another Idiot.




Kidomaru's got much better eyesight than Sasori and he's much smarter. He figures it out and snipes Sasori before he knows what's happening, precluding the use of Heart Transfer.What exactly do you want? The heart transfer or Sakura getting stabbed through the stomach? Once you tell me, I'll get the chapter.

Proof that Kido has better eyesight? Proof that he's smarter? Give me a chapter or I'll write you off as Just Another Idiot.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Just for the record, you can't post manga site names on this forum. Hence me telling you to look it up yourself, as I'm not going to spend all that time looking for a new site just for one person's benefit.

[Kuromaki]

Chapter 273 is where Heart Transfer is shown.

Oh and Sage, I got a manga source.

[Nyruss]

He's a trained archer. Ever see a blind archer?

Plus, using his third eye only further enhances his ability to aim.

[321zigzag3]

So why can't Sasori just sidestep or something like that?

Unless Sasori is like weakened Neji of pretimeskep in reaction and reflexes.

Also Heart Transfer is akin to like teleportation. Sasori can "teleport" through his puppets. Its likely nearly instant not supersonic.


:geek:

[The 1st Hokage]

He's a trained archer. Ever see a blind archer?

Plus, using his third eye only further enhances his ability to aim.
Assumptions mean nothing, I want manga evidence.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

He's a trained archer. Ever see a blind archer?

Plus, using his third eye only further enhances his ability to aim.
I've done archery. I'm somewhat nearsighted. Does that mean I have better eyesight than Sasori?

I think not.

Tien from DBZ had a third eye. Did it enhance his vision at all?

I think not.

@Kuromaki: Thanks!

[Nyruss]

Chapter 273 page 12. Sakura throws the sealing ball of doom. Page 14 we see Sasori's body with no heart.

There is no possible way to have determine the speed of that ball, with which to further extrapolate Sasori's reaction and use of Heart Transfer.

This being the case, Heart Transfer is a non-issue.

I really don't see why Kidomaru's vision is a point of contention, given his ability to locate and target Neji's blind spot from like fifty gajillion miles away through the trees.

[takuya]

He's a trained archer. Ever see a blind archer?

Plus, using his third eye only further enhances his ability to aim.No one said he was blind. We're asking how can you prove he has better eyesight? Just because he's an archer doesn't mean he can see everything. That just means he has good aim with an arrow.

[321zigzag3]

This thread has become arguments over needless things and assumptions.

And just for the record Kidomaru's third eye does enhance his vision.
Databook even further describes it.

I am out.

[SimpleGenin]

So why can't Sasori just sidestep or something like that?

Unless Sasori is like weakened Neji of pretimeskep in reaction and reflexes.

Also Heart Transfer is akin to like teleportation. Sasori can "teleport" through his puppets. Its likely nearly instant not supersonic.
because sasori doesnt have the byakugan.. he cant track the arrow ahead of time like Neji could.

[Nyruss]

Sasori wank approaching critical levels. I'm outtie with the victory. Toodles.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

First of all, Ziggy has a point that has been artfully ignored: Sasori sidesteps when he sees the arrow. Yay.

Either way, Sasori could just cut down the entire forest in a second to find Kidomaru while protecting himself with a bit of Iron Sand. It's not that hard to do.

[The 1st Hokage]

I really don't see why Kidomaru's vision is a point of contention, given his ability to locate and target Neji's blind spot from like fifty gajillion miles away through the trees.Saying it was much less than even 150 ft. Kido's sight has not been proven better or worse than Sasori's, move to your next point please Ono, and let's hope you have proof for it.

This thread has become arguments over needless things and assumptions.

And just for the record Kidomaru's third eye does enhance his vision.
Databook even further describes it.

I am out.
The DB's are a lie! :ugeek:

[takuya]

Sasori wank approaching critical levels. I'm outtie with the victory. Toodles.And Dudemeister runs away with his tail between his legs, falsely claiming victory.
The end

Also, I believe Iron Sand has the ability to tank one of Kido's arrows.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Sasori wank approaching critical levels. I'm outtie with the victory. Toodles.
Aka you're bored of not being submitted to almost immediately upon making an argument.

You tend to do this a lot. Arguments that last more than a few posts tend to end with you saying "You guys are retarded. I win. Bye."

I fail to see how that is both a valid way to prove our stupidity and win an argument. Also, if we're all so dumb, why keep coming back?

If anything, you're actions are what's leaning towards the nonsensical side of things. I'm tired of you never finishing a debate to completion if it lasts more than a few posts.

Kidomaru wank approaching critical levels. I'm innie with the still valid debate. Noodles.

[321zigzag3]

because sasori doesnt have the byakugan.. he cant track the arrow ahead of time like Neji could.

By that logic Kidomaru can snipe anyone from far range.
I find that hard to believe.

Saying it was much less than even 150 ft. Kido's sight has not been proven better or worse than Sasori's, move to your next point please Ono, and let's hope you have proof for it.


The DB's are a lie! :ugeek:

No it is true. 3rd Eye enhances vision and accuracy which is why he is able to use the thread attached to the arrow to guide it too.

[The 1st Hokage]

Sasori wank approaching critical levels. I'm outtie with the victory. Toodles.
Giving up already Ono? That's unlike you.

I simply want to see how Kido can win without being killed by Iron Sand variants. What if Kido misses the heart his first shot? Sasori knows what direction it came from, and spams Iron Sand Drizzle or World Order that way.

@ Ziggy: DB may be a lie, but... /Can't come up with a good pun

[SimpleGenin]

yes kidomaru could snipe anyone from far range unless the chaarcter has shown feats that says they are able to dodge the arrow.. remember the arrrow could come from anywhere. how excactly would sasori see from behind his head. Sasori just has no way of attacking kidomaru if he cant see him..

[321zigzag3]

Alright you all you want to hear what I think who wins?

yes kidomaru could snipe anyone from far range unless the chaarcter has shown feats that says they are able to dodge the arrow.. remember the arrrow could come from anywhere. how excactly would sasori see from behind his head. Sasori just has no way of attacking kidomaru if he cant see him..

Riddle me this. If Neji was able to react barely in time. Why can't other high tier to top tier ninjas?

And Voila, Kidomaru fired the arrow on Neji's single blindspot so Neji couldn't see. Neji only reacted because he was releasing large amounts of chakra around them and then barely altered its trajectory with that.

Saying Raikage is going to get hit while he casually evades 2 direct point blank attacks in the manga doesn't add up

[The 1st Hokage]

yes kidomaru could snipe anyone from far range unless the chaarcter has shown feats that says they are able to dodge the arrow.. remember the arrrow could come from anywhere. how excactly would sasori see from behind his head. Sasori just has no way of attacking kidomaru if he cant see him..
So Kido could Snipe anyone from a bajillion miles away? Come on man, think about what you say, because this seems extremely far fetched.

Say Kido shoots Sasori in the back of the head. Sasori is alive still, and he knows where the Arrow Came from. Supersonic Sand Drizzle ends it.

[SimpleGenin]

So Kido could Snipe anyone from a bajillion miles away? Come on man, think about what you say, because this seems extremely far fetched.

Say Kido shoots Sasori in the back of the head. Sasori is alive still, and he knows where the Arrow Came from. Supersonic Sand Drizzle ends it.
no but pretty far away.. especially with poison on his mind his always gonna keep the distance. its not farfetch because its what kidomaru did with neji.

sand drizzle has to form, and sasori would need another puppet.


like i said there some people that are able to dodge the arrow, madara and A Killer Bee are some of them

[321zigzag3]

I am pretty sure Sasori can react to it if it is within his line of sight. At most distances.

Anyway to be actually honest either can win.

But it really depends on Kidomaru's stealthiness because if he can't he loses.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

no but pretty far away.. especially with poison on his mind his always gonna keep the distance. its not farfetch because its what kidomaru did with neji.

sand drizzle has to form, and sasori would need another puppet.


like i said there some people that are able to dodge the arrow, madara and A Killer Bee are some of them
His Kazekage puppet is already out. He doesn't need another puppet at all.

There are plenty of people who could dodge the arrow. It's not as fast as you seem to think it is. While Kido won't miss, he can be dodged by almost any top tier Naruto character. I mean, pelvic harpoon shot could deflect the attack pretty easily from the heart. Either that or a cloud of obscuring poison smoke. Or 100 puppets to stop the arrow. Etc.

[SimpleGenin]

I am pretty sure Sasori can react to it if it is within his line of sight. At most distances.

Anyway to be actually honest either can win.

But it really depends on Kidomaru's stealthiness because if he can't he loses.

excactly lines of sight matters.. and consider, IC kidomaru aims for blind spot.

sasori cant use 3rd's body as his body unless someone proves me wrong
and none of sasori's other puppets would pose a a problem considering their durability.. none of them could withstand an arrow from kidomaru..

im just saying kidomaru is more likely to win because, sasori has no way of locating him.

[321zigzag3]

im just saying kidomaru is more likely to win because, sasori has no way of locating him.

So Kidomaru knows but Sasori doesn't?

wait wait wait WAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIITTTTTTTT.


So your situation is Kidomaru has arrow prepped and aimed and Sasori is just blissfully unaware?

You know he can hear the arrow coming by the way.

[SimpleGenin]

So Kidomaru knows but Sasori doesn't?

wait wait wait WAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIITTTTTTTT.


So your situation is Kidomaru has arrow prepped and aimed and Sasori is just blissfully unaware?

You know he can hear the arrow coming by the way.
so basically they start knowing where the other are but its IC for kidomaru to hide and use long range attacks to find out more about his enemy. IC Sasori with the third kazekage out would probibly use his Iron blocks to try and smash Kidomaru but his shown enough feats to be able to move especially with the starting distance,, from then on, Kidomaru would keep track of sasori's location but sasori cant say the same thing. with kidomaru in hiding, he has all the prep time in the world to create arrows.. plus sasori cant break out of kido's web if he gets caught.

[321zigzag3]

so basically they start knowing where the other are but its IC for kidomaru to hide and use long range attacks to find out more about his enemy. IC Sasori with the third kazekage out would probibly use his Iron blocks to try and smash Kidomaru but his shown enough feats to be able to move especially with the starting distance,, from then on, Kidomaru would keep track of sasori's location but sasori cant say the same thing. with kidomaru in hiding, he has all the prep time in the world to create arrows.. plus sasori cant break out of kido's web if he gets caught.

Hmm so it appears.

But what if Sasori uses Iron Sand to decimate the area?

Also it really depends on the first arrow Kidomaru shoots.

[SimpleGenin]

Hmm so it appears.

But what if Sasori uses Iron Sand to decimate the area?

Also it really depends on the first arrow Kidomaru shoots.
well he could do that perhaps but that gives kidomaru a chance to launch a full powered arrow or trap him in a web. and also, since i put Forest with lot of trees as the location, im going to say, the forest is massive therefor giving kidomaru the only advantage he has.

[321zigzag3]

well he could do that perhaps but that gives kidomaru a chance to launch a full powered arrow or trap him in a web. and also, since i put Forest with lot of trees as the location, im going to say, the forest is massive therefor giving kidomaru the only advantage he has.

Well ok. It appears you have convinced of more of Kidomaru's chances.
Although this thread was clearly stacked in his favor.

Anyway ok so it really depends on Sasori's actions and reactions.

Yes Kidomaru can make webs for traps.




See a proper debate not some mindless crapfest that just occured this entire thread so far.

My god people.

[SimpleGenin]

Well ok. It appears you have convinced of more of Kidomaru's chances.
Although this thread was clearly stacked in his favor.

Anyway ok so it really depends on Sasori's actions and reactions.

Yes Kidomaru can make webs for traps.




See a proper debate not some mindless crapfest that just occured this entire thread so far.

My god people.
Yeah i made this thread the way it is because putting kidomaru against sasori is just unfair if the location has no tree's or anything he could use to hide.

it could go either way aslong as sasori's side can figure out how.
for example, if we use the anime as cannon, sasori could littarally shave off a circle in the forest giving him atleast a chance to see the arrows. ( the water jet thing)

[321zigzag3]

Yeah i made this thread the way it is because putting kidomaru against sasori is just unfair if the location has no tree's or anything he could use to hide.

it could go either way aslong as sasori's side can figure out how.
for example, if we use the anime as cannon, sasori could littarally shave off a circle in the forest giving him atleast a chance to see the arrows. ( the water jet thing)

Well I am going to give you rep for making an interesting thread if I can.

Well yes it can go either way.

I am suspecting that Ono wants Sasori dead more than needed. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif

[SimpleGenin]

Well I am going to give you rep for making an interesting thread if I can.

Well yes it can go either way.

I am suspecting that Ono wants Sasori dead more than needed. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif
thank u, u dont need to though

well im guessing you know Dude.. pretty well. im guessing he is the type of person that thinks about how the fight is gonna play out, and then make his decision from then. he doesnt want Sasori dead as much as he wants Tsunade dead. He has some respect for sasori's character but with the given situation, he beleived that Sasori just cant win.

also BL, makes the character act very differently from IC, in the beginning of a fight, IC Sasori would use iron blocks to attack but him BL, he would use something more like iron drizzle or world order.

in the back of my mind though, im guessing sasori wins because of feats that has never been seen.. haha like i would imagine him being able to make some sort of iron shield similar to that of gaara. its also not too farfetched because with the third kazekage, sasori is said to be able to manipulate iron sand to his will so why cant he make a shield with it. ha but since he never showed such feats, it cant be used..

[321zigzag3]

thank u, u dont need to though

well im guessing you know Dude.. pretty well. im guessing he is the type of person that thinks about how the fight is gonna play out, and then make his decision from then. he doesnt want Sasori dead as much as he wants Tsunade dead. He has some respect for sasori's character but with the given situation, he beleived that Sasori just cant win.

See? That shows his capacity. Why can't he just be more specific???

also BL, makes the character act very differently from IC, in the beginning of a fight, IC Sasori would use iron blocks to attack but him BL, he would use something more like iron drizzle or world order.

BL Sasori would start clearing the forest.

in the back of my mind though, im guessing sasori wins because of feats that has never been seen.. haha like i would imagine him being able to make some sort of iron shield similar to that of gaara. its also not too farfetched because with the third kazekage, sasori is said to be able to manipulate iron sand to his will so why cant he make a shield with it. ha but since he never showed such feats, it cant be used..

The thing I only displayed such shock that Sasori can't react.

That is all. Heart Transfer I never stated and I don't think Sasori can heart transfer with 3rd Kazekage.


UNLESSS!!!!! This is all Ono's plan to make us insane. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif

[SimpleGenin]

The thing I only displayed such shock that Sasori can't react.

That is all. Heart Transfer I never stated and I don't think Sasori can heart transfer with 3rd Kazekage.


UNLESSS!!!!! This is all Ono's plan to make us insane. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/43h7r5d.gif


i just think he cant react to multiple arrows especially arrows that targets his blind spot..


well i think your giving him too much credit dude.. he cant make a plan if the people arent affected by what he says.

[skillr]

sasori stomps. he flamethrowers the trees and as soon as kidomaru gets out iron sand covered in poison falls on him then when he crawls out before the poison takes effect he gets hosed in the face and dies from poison. that is if he can get out of the flaming forest in time or out of the iron sand or stay alive before the poison kills him. o yeah... and 100 puppets

sasori>>>>>>>>>>kidomaru

[Inuyasha]

100 Puppets from all sides

Sasori wins

Kidomaru has no time to react and no time to stratagize his moves

[SimpleGenin]

sasori stomps. he flamethrowers the trees and as soon as kidomaru gets out iron sand covered in poison falls on him then when he crawls out before the poison takes effect he gets hosed in the face and dies from poison. that is if he can get out of the flaming forest in time or out of the iron sand or stay alive before the poison kills him. o yeah... and 100 puppets

sasori>>>>>>>>>>kidomaru

shure sasori could burn the trees with flamethrower but would he know where kidomaru is? no. will kidomaru know where to locate sasori? a BIG yes. before sasori could burn the forest, kidomaru would have already put a whole on sasori's body or trap him in a web.. 100 puppets a fodder since they wont know where to locate kidomaru.

[SimpleGenin]

100 Puppets from all sides

Sasori wins

Kidomaru has no time to react and no time to stratagize his moves
read the scenerio.

its IC

no way would Sasori use the 100 puppets right away

in the scenerio, he has the kazekage out, if we go buy IC, he'll use iron blocks to try and get kidomaru not flamethrowers or his other puppet

[skillr]

shure sasori could burn the trees with flamethrower but would he know where kidomaru is? no.

kidomaru has 2 get out of the flaming forest cus fire=bad. and when he does he gets crushed by iron sand

[SimpleGenin]

kidomaru has 2 get out of the flaming forest cus fire=bad. and when he does he gets crushed by iron sand
like i said, IC + scenerio = Sasori wont use flamethrower
and since the kazekage puppet's already out, he'd use iron block to attack.

by the way poison needles wont work because kidomaru has knowledge of the poison before the fight.

[skillr]

yeah but that doesnt mean it doesnt kill him or hit him. he cud also block arrows with IS or he'll just bombard the forest with IS

[SimpleGenin]

yeah but that doesnt mean it doesnt kill him or hit him. he cud also block arrows with IS or he'll just bombard the forest with IS
kidomaru has basically metal skin.. and if he has knowledge on the poison he'd make shure he has the metal skin ( the ones that blocked neji's gentle fist)

when using iron block, first it has to form to make the shape.. it is not hitting kidomaru from 75 meters away in mere seconds..

how would sasori know where the arrows coming from.. remember kidomaru IC targets blind spot ( example is when he shot neji). if sasori could make his sand act like gaara's sand then yeah it could possibly block the arrow but sasori hasnt shown that feats.

[skillr]

i cant believe u think someone who tied with pre neji cud beat sasori who cud take out an entire village by hype and did kill the 3rd kazekage who was said 2 be the strongest. and just because kido knows about poison doesnt mean hes immune 2 it

[SimpleGenin]

i cant believe u think someone who tied with pre neji cud beat sasori who cud take out an entire village by hype and did kill the 3rd kazekage who was said 2 be the strongest. and just because kido knows about poison doesnt mean hes immune 2 it
i know what you mean but sorry hype is useless here in the battleground.. like i said, its obvious you havent read my past post in this thread.. im just going by feats cause it is the only thing acceptable here.. so unless you can debate using feats, kidomaru wins.

[skillr]

i just said sasori DID take out 3rd kaze:roll:

[SimpleGenin]

i just said sasori DID take out 3rd kaze:roll:
huh? thats not feat. thats hype.. so its useless..

Hanzo was said to have beaten all three sannin but in the BG, any of the sannin could beat him because Hanzo shows no feats.. same concept

[skillr]

if its hype then why does he hav the 3rd as a puppet

[SimpleGenin]

if its hype then why does he hav the 3rd as a puppet
sasori killing the third is hype.. we never saw what sasori did against the third.. so its useless to use that in the debate.. like i said, in the battleground only whats seen in the manga could be concidered feats..

[skillr]

ok fine but sasori still stomps

[SimpleGenin]

ok fine but sasori still stomps
like i said in my past post, i dont really beleive Kidomaru wins, but because of the whole feats rule in the battleground, kidomaru wins..

[skillr]

sasori beat kankuro with hiruko only, sasori can control 100 puppets at once, sasori can use iron sand, flamethrowers, water jets poison and heart transfer

kido can fire strong webs, golden arrows and golden armor

[SimpleGenin]

sasori beat kankuro with hiruko only, sasori can control 100 puppets at once, sasori can use iron sand, flamethrowers, water jets poison and heart transfer

kido can fire strong webs, golden arrows and golden armor
kidomaru's IC fighting style is to stay away from the enemy especially in the forest, so 100 puppets, flamethrower, iron sand hiroku wont do anything to kidomaru. the heart is a vital spot, so kidomaru would definantly be targeting that..
water jets-- only in anime so its non canon..
Kidomaru simply has an advantage due to the location

[skillr]

if sasori is gonna die he heart transfers then he gets mad cus he was about 2 die so he burns down the forest

[SimpleGenin]

if sasori is gonna die he heart transfers then he gets mad cus he was about 2 die so he burns down the forest
thats not happening since there are no puppets for his heart to transfer..
like i said IC sasori would never use Red Secret Technique; Performance of a hundred puppet.. the only reason sasori ever used it was in response to chiyo's ten puppets..otherwise, he isnt using it.

[skillr]

yeah he doesnt need 2 use it he cud just block with iron sand and.... gaaaahh!!!`#(!! this is getting annoying can we just agree that sasori wins okaaaaay?`:oops:

[SimpleGenin]

yeah he doesnt need 2 use it he cud just block with iron sand and.... gaaaahh!!!`#(!! this is getting annoying can we just agree that sasori wins okaaaaay?`:oops:
haha first of all throughout sasori's fight with chiyo and sakura, iron sand was never used as a defense against anything so using iron sand means blocking with iron blocks.. haha it cant surround sasori.. i think it could but what i think doesnt really matter aslong as it isnt shown.

by feats kidomaru wins

but i really do think that sasori would beat kidomuro

haha if that makes sense.

[Kakuzu]

Kidomaru uses the C2 Arrow he used on Neji. Using his outstanding accuracy, he hits the heart container directly, killing Sasori. To get a farther distance away, he summons his spiders to distract Sasori long enough to hide.

Kidomaru's accuracy and distance gives him an extreme advantage. Nothing Sasori really has can reach that distance.

[skillr]

so simplegenin if u think sasori wud win im gonna stop this long arguement