Starrk VS Barragan

[deidara330]

The first of two of today's Espada threads I'll be making. The MVBG now has an Espada tier list (Which I would link to, but apparently since it has a Viz Media image in it I can't do that) so I'll be making at least 2 Espada battle threads each day to determine the Tier List rankings until they're fully accurate. (Accurate meaning 1 win and loss for everyone who isn't at the top or bottom; The win against the person they're directly above, and the loss against the person they're directly below. A>B>C logic smooths out the rest.) The conditions for every battle will be the exact BG defaults to ensure fairness.

So, BG defaults, no restrictions, who wins? I'd say Starrk cero spams or wolf spams. Sure, Barragan can age them, but they're still pretty damn fast and pretty damn explosive. In the end, I'd bet Starrk could eventually kill Barragan with a cero or wolf explosion. He's also shown good enough speed to dodge Respira.

[Sephiroth]

I agree with that state ment. But does parts of a soul age?? Because is that not what Los Labo attack is. Parts of his soul

[Nyruss]

I'm sure this has been done a few gajillion times before but Barry rapes. Age > wolves unfortunately.

[deidara330]

I agree with that state ment. But does parts of a soul age?? Because is that not what Los Labo attack is. Parts of his soulWell, Soul Reapers are souls, and one of them (Soi Fon, to be exact) aged when hit with Respira. The problem is, can Barragan age the pieces of Starrk's soul quickly enough before they explode? (Think about that sentence for a second.) When they bit Love, they caused a huge pillar of explosion. If the soul parts begin to age, Starrk could detonate the wolves before they simply aged away and Barragan could get caught in the explosion.I'm sure this has been done a few gajillion times before but Barry rapes. Age > wolves unfortunately.Nope. When I checked, this was the first Starrk VS Barry thread in existance. Either this is the first thread or the only other ones mispelled their names.

[Yori]

Dude your Barry wanking big Time. Cero spam and Wolf Spam overwhelms the old guy big time.

[321zigzag3]

Barragan couldn't age away Soifon's bankai in timr so therefore he had push himself back.

Starrk is a lot worse.

But then again it depends on the match circumstances.

[kejon16]

Barragan couldn't age away Soifon's bankai in timr so therefore he had push himself back.

Starrk is a lot worse.

But then again it depends on the match circumstances.

Dude what the freak are you smoking?
When Soifon used her Bankai.
Barragan aged it away before it hit him.
I also think he did it again.
I was just reading that part in the manga.

[Nyruss]

Barry aged away Soifon's bankai once. The second time Hachi put him in a barrier so he couldn't escape the blast.

[kejon16]

Barry aged away Soifon's bankai once. The second time Hachi put him in a barrier so he couldn't escape the blast.


That's right I stoped reading before that part happen. So we know that barragan can age away things at high speeds. How fast is Soifons attack anyways?

[Shinobi killer]

I think Starrk is primera for a reason.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

I think Starrk is primera for a reason.
Rank doesn't matter.

[321zigzag3]

Dude what the freak are you smoking?
When Soifon used her Bankai.
Barragan aged it away before it hit him.
I also think he did it again.
I was just reading that part in the manga.

Yes going by the manga is smoking I applaud your brilliant deduction.

Barragan has a weakness to immense area of effect attacks because its way more Baraggan can age away.

Did you learn nothing what Hachi said? Why do you think Hachi made the barrier.

Starrk spams ceros and wolves explode on the ground below Baraggan.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Dude what the freak are you smoking?
When Soifon used her Bankai.
Barragan aged it away before it hit him.
I also think he did it again.
I was just reading that part in the manga.

Dude, you can't age Cero spam.

[Nyruss]

A thousand times zero is still zero. Ceros are weak, shooting a whole bunch of them won't do anything but annoy Barry.

[kejon16]

Dude, you can't age Cero spam.


Lol, How did you come up with that?
It's all about the speed of Starrk ceros.
If Barragan can age away a Bankai attack.
I think he could age away ceros.

Zig: It's only a barrier man. Barragan can form an age barrier around him.
Stopping the ceros from hitting him at all.

[321zigzag3]

Lol, How did you come up with that?
It's all about the speed of Starrk ceros.
If Barragan can age away a Bankai attack.
I think he could age away ceros.

Zig: It's only a barrier man. Barragan can form an age barrier around him.
Stopping the ceros from hitting him at all.

The problem with that is. It is that Starrk can spam city block busting wolves beneath Barragan and ceros. He can do much worse than Soifon can.


That Age barrier couldn't age Soifon's Bankai missile explosion all in time so he pushed himself back if I recall.

Can Baraggan win? Yes but Starrk's sheer speed and spaming wolves and ceros makes it difficult for him.

Now if Respira caught Starrk thats a different story.

[Bacon]

Since everyone is focusing on jsut one aspect about these two, I will argue the best points about each to my best ability. Quite frankly, these two are far too powerful to just based their lively hood on one aspect of their characters or their rank in the Espada.

Barragan:

Barragan has incredible strength in which can slice through buildings with ease. He has also been known to produce a force that can be felt from a distance with his zanpaktou alone.

Spiritual pressure: He has the ability to produce a spiritual pressure that manifests quite well becuase he is a top Espada.

Iron skin or Hierro:
His was able to tank a direct hit from Soi fon's Jakuho Raikoben, or her bankai. The result was minor injury at best.

Sonnido:

He has formidable skill.

Time Dialation Field:
It not only reduces the speed of his targets,but also ages them.

Enhnaced Time Dialation:
He has superior protection from melee attacks because objects within the domain of his power deteriorate.

-Soi fon's bankai exploded prematurely.

Respira:

Fast enough to catch Soi fon.
*note: It can cause continous damage to an afflicted area.

Stark:

Spirit energy:
Argueably the strongest espada, his might have a slight advantage over Barragan's.

Hierro or iron skin:
He took Love Aikawa's immense Shikai, Tengumaru with little to no harm in his ressurection state.

Sonnido:
His skill by far one of the greastest of the Espada considering the fact that he was fast enough to screw with Ichigo and Kenpachi.
*side note: He can create multiple after images with ease.

Master of swordmanship: He was able to fight Shunsui Kyōraku without much effort one on one.

Cero mastery:
He can fire a cero from multiple points along his body with little to no warning.

Intellect: He is a detailed fighter who doesn't need to spend a lot of time figuring out his opponent's mannerisms or habits.

Soul spearation: He can essentially create another being by separting his soul using his immense spirtual pressure.

Release:
His unique ability to use lilynete as his release makes demonstates his power. He can not only fire an undetermined amount of ceros from his pistols,but lilynete can help manage the battle to assist stark.

Cero Matrelleta:
He is abilty to fire so many ceros, that they seem to form one gargantuan cero that he can easily control to move towards his adversary.

Wolves:
Nearly infinite and highly explosive, they can cause explosions that dwarf skyscrapers.

Reiryoku Swords:

These reishi swords can be used to engage an adversay in Close quarters combat.


Now comes the fun part! I get to give my opinion based on their individual merits. In the beggining of the fight, we may find Start having an advantage in speed as he uses his ceros and swordsmanship to fight Barragon. However, barragon's immense strength makes fighting up close a losing battle, while Barragon makes fighting a battle of speed a losing fight. On top of this, Barragon's Time dialation can slow Stark down long enough to evade attacks,but I doubt barragon can age him easily.

Release:
After a stand still Stark will use his almost infinite cero to try and hit barragan,but it will be fruitless. Time dialation will slow it down and allow barragon to simply evade them. When Stark uses his wolves, barragon's Miasma called," Respira" not only detonates them prematurely,but it renders them useless. I doubt barragon can win by using Respira if Stark makes enough explosions to blow it back at Barragon to make it enter his body.In the second round, Barragon's very pressence will weaken stark and unltimately beat him if Start is fool hardy enough to try melee combat.
In the end, I have to give Stark credit for speed and nearly infinte power,but it does him no good if Barragon can slow them down and dodge. Combine this with Barragon's speed and Stark eventually loses.

[kejon16]

The problem with that is. It is that Starrk can spam city block busting wolves beneath Barragan and ceros. He can do much worse than Soifon can.


That Age barrier couldn't age Soifon's Bankai missile explosion all in time so he pushed himself back if I recall.

Can Baraggan win? Yes but Starrk's sheer speed and spaming wolves and ceros makes it difficult for him.

Now if Respira caught Starrk thats a different story.

I don't recall him being pushed back.
We don't know the full speed of his Respira anyways right?

[321zigzag3]

Hachi described it which is why he did that 4 Barrier gate thing so Barragan couldn't age away the explosion in time and still get hit.
And he did.

Starrk can replicate that by using insane number of ceros and wolves.


It was fast enough to catch Soifon but from what I know.

Starrk > Soifon in speed.

[Nyruss]

There's actually little basis for that feats-wise.

[321zigzag3]

There's actually little basis for that feats-wise.

If you mean there is actually little basis that Starrk's sheer wolves and cero destructiv capacity >>>> Soifon's and that Baraggan would have trouble then yes.
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[Nyruss]

I was talking about your claim that Starrk is faster than Soifon. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/chmp.png

[321zigzag3]

Starrk's sheer wolves and cero destructive capacity >>>> Soifon's and that Baraggan would have trouble.

I have spoken. :ugeek:http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/gun.png

I was talking about your claim that Starrk is faster than Soifon. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/chmp.png

Why not? http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/chmp.pnghttp://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/gun.png

[deidara330]

Bumping, this was such a close battle.