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Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 01:49 PM
Location: Somewhere in Cacoon. [Vat has to make the Battlegrounds]
Duration: 10 Rounds. [All battles are 10 Rounds]

Name: Kazumi Saitama - Level 1
Character: Celeste Aldaire (http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g135/Ayumi16/CelesteAldaire.png)
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Paradigms: Commando, Ravager and Synergist
Weapon(s): Blazefire Saber: 25 Normal Bullets and 10 Pyro Bullets
Gil: 829
Item(s): High Potion
Biography: Coming Soon
Inventory: N/A

Health: 100/100
Magic: 100/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Crystarium: Commando, Ravager and Synergist

Commando:
1. Attack
2. Ruin
3. Blitz

Ravager:
4. Flamestrike
5. Sparkstrike
6. Fearsiphon

Synergist
7. Bravery
8. Barfrost
9. Veil
10. Faith


Each fighter must post their own information. Beside "Weapon(s)" on your template, make sure to have the weapons you equipped for this battle. The same applies to your "Item(s)". Otherwise, you can not use them in battle. Any weapons or items in your "Inventory" can not be used unless equipped. Your "Inventory" can hold 10 objects. You can only equip 3 weapons and 5 items at all times.

Archive:

Lesson 1 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3879518&postcount=1)
Lesson 2 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3880366&postcount=14)
Lesson 3 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3881785&postcount=36)
Lesson 4 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3882246&postcount=39)
Lesson 5 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3883427&postcount=50)
Lesson 6 (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3883829&postcount=55)

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 02:03 PM
I am about to ditch Vat and get another participant. >.>

He is taking too long.

Shino Hatake
08-27-2010, 02:05 PM
Walls of text WALLS OF TEXT. I found a gif for a button on it..

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 02:07 PM
Walls of Text sounds exhausting.

Shino Hatake
08-27-2010, 02:09 PM
You telling me......[ Spanish Accent.]

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 02:41 PM
Character: Simon Di Vinci Hayato/Rail Tracer - Sporting a black long-sleeved double-breast silky suit that is worn over like a cape in similar fashion to Admiral Kizaru in One Piece. Has a loose black tie and a long sleeved maroon-colored dress shirt accompanied by a white fedora hat. Wears black pants; has teal sunglasses cover eyes without morality. Wears the sunglasses even at nighttime because he's that badass. Pitch black hair and peach skin.

Age: 24

Gender: Male

Paradigms: Commando, Medic, Ravager

Weapon(s): Customized Bladed Tonfas, Desert Eagle: 10 Pyro Bullets and 15 Normal Bullets, Black Gauntlets

Gil: 716

Item(s): High Potion, Hot Oil

Biography: Coming Soon


Health: 100/100

Magic: 100/100

Strength: 100/100

Speed: 100/100

Agility: 100/100

Offense: 100/100

Defense: 100/100

Resistance: 100/100

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 02:46 PM
Took you long enough!

Oh, wait. You have no computer access right now?

._.

Maybe I should get another person.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 02:49 PM
Super Power Thingys:

Meat Musclehead:

Attack
Jeopardize
Ruin
Blindside
Faultsiphon

Goth Chick:

Fearsiphon
Thunder
Flamestrike
Airstrike

The Kind Yet Clumsy Big-Cleavage Gurl:

Cure

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 02:59 PM
Vat, do you want me to get another person?

Considering you have no computer, I figured it would be easier on you.

puppetmasterpossession
08-27-2010, 03:00 PM
what is he using?

Shino Hatake
08-27-2010, 03:05 PM
He can handle it I am sure he is just busy.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 03:09 PM
Nah, I'll stick with this battle.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Hmm, could I switch Medic with Sab/Sen?

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Okay.

Unlike The Final Fantasy Games, we can move around freely during battle. However, dodging constantly is unacceptable. Attacks must be countered with attacks. No spell happens instantaneously. It has to hit your opponent like any attack. Your opponent can counter, dodge or block.

All spells deal Damage (DA), which affect your Health Points (HP).

For Example:
All spells should be bold or parenthesized.

Luna: I cast Flamestrike toward my opponent, hoping to severally burn his body.

Artemis: Using Elude to defend my body, I protect myself from Luna's Flamestrike.

Flamestrike deals 35 Damage.

Elude costs 30 Magic Points (MP).

So, Artemis would take 5 points of Damage. Makes sense?

Shields purchased from The Weapon Shop will be discussed later.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 03:37 PM
Hmm, could I switch Medic with Sab/Sen?

I would, but if I allow you, that means I would have to allow everyone. That is too much of a hassle.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 03:43 PM
I see.

How about allow one change per player?

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 03:51 PM
I see.

How about allow one change per player?

~.~;

~Headdesk.~

If I regret this, you are dying.

Fine.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-27-2010, 03:55 PM
o.o

/Purchases a Riot Shield just in vase.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 03:56 PM
You need to finish PMP's purchase.

Shino Hatake
08-27-2010, 03:57 PM
SHINO IS ON IT!!! No need to fear.

puppetmasterpossession
08-27-2010, 03:58 PM
You need to finish PMP's purchase.

thanks

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 04:04 PM
thanks

You are welcome.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 04:17 PM
>.> I want a fight. =S

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 04:33 PM
>.> I want a fight. =S

I might continue the tutorial with you. Vat is preoccupied and I need to get the battles explained, so people can start fighting.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 04:39 PM
I might continue the tutorial with you. Vat is preoccupied and I need to get the battles explained, so people can start fighting.
=D REALLY? *dances*

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 05:11 PM
=D REALLY? *dances*

Okay, we will continue the battle.

Have you read everything? Do you have any questions?

puppetmasterpossession
08-27-2010, 05:25 PM
question: can you switch weapons from inventory to equipped during battle, or like what if you could but you have to wait like 3 turns to use the weapon you switched in?

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 05:27 PM
question: can you switch weapons from inventory to equipped during battle, or like what if you could but you have to wait like 3 turns to use the weapon you switched in?

No.

It has to be equipped before battle.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 05:29 PM
Alright, I post my character, right?

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 05:29 PM
Alright, I post my character, right?

Correct.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 05:31 PM
Name: Susanoo - Level 1
Character: Light Arashi (http://public5.tektek.org/img/av/1008/d18/0123/6fc9147.png)
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Paradigms: Synergist, Commando, Ravager
Weapon(s): Dual 73" Katana, Black Gauntlets
Gil: 580
Item(s): High potion, 50 Shuriken, 5 Bundles of Steel Wire
Biography: Coming soon

Health: 100/100
Magic: 100/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Crystarium: Synergist, Commando, Ravager

Commando:
1. Attack
2. Launch
3. Ruin
4. Jeopardize

Ravager:
5. Thunder
6. Aero
7. Water
8. Sparkstrike

Synergist:
9. Shell
10. Protect

You wanna go first? =P

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 06:14 PM
Name: Susanoo - Level 1
Character: Light Arashi (http://public5.tektek.org/img/av/1008/d18/0123/6fc9147.png)
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Paradigms: Synergist, Commando, Ravager
Weapon(s): Dual 73" Katana, Black Gauntlets
Gil: 580
Item(s): High potion, 50 Shuriken, 5 Bundles of Steel Wire
Biography: Coming soon

Health: 100/100
Magic: 100/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Crystarium: Synergist, Commando, Ravager

Commando:
1. Attack
2. Launch
3. Ruin
4. Jeopardize

Ravager:
5. Thunder
6. Aero
7. Water
8. Sparkstrike

Synergist:
9. Shell
10. Protect

You wanna go first? =P

Okay. Do you have any questions before we start?

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Okay. Do you have any questions before we start?
Do we have to use like, Attack? Using 20mp? Because, attack shouldn't cost mp. Cause then people would not be able to do anything really.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 06:20 PM
Do we have to use like, Attack? Using 20mp? Because, attack shouldn't cost mp. Cause then people would not be able to do anything really.

You can do normal attacks without using MP.

However, the spell "Attack" does cost MP.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 06:23 PM
You can do normal attacks without using MP.

However, the spell "Attack" does cost MP.
Okay so like, "I swing my blade upward at your torso, attempting to cut you"

And how much damage does that do?

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 06:27 PM
Okay so like, "I swing my blade upward at your torso, attempting to cut you"

And how much damage does that do?

100 Strength = 10 DA
150 Strength = 15 DA
200 Strength = 20 DA
250 Strength = 25 DA

And it continues like that.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 06:34 PM
100 Strength = 10 DA
150 Strength = 15 DA
200 Strength = 20 DA
250 Strength = 25 DA

And it continues like that.
Alright. So make your move.

Teddie
08-27-2010, 07:04 PM
One.
:D
CODE GEASS!
Two:
=O
Jaw Drop
Three: This isnt a freeverse. Not even remotely. Kthnxbai.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 07:13 PM
Initiating this battle, Celeste withdrew her Blazefire Saber. Switching into Ravager, Celeste performed the spell Fearsiphon. By starting this battle, Fearsiphon would boost her magical spells by ten damage points. Casting Flamestrike, Celeste released several fire blasts into the range of her opponent, threatening to incinerate his physique. Gripping Blazefire Saber, she dashed closer before executing a horizontal slash along his abdomen. Subsequently, she switched into Commando before using Attack. Bursting into a frenzy, Celeste unleashed twenty consecutive slashes against his body.

Health: 100/100
Magic: 25/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Post your Statistics at the end of your attacks, so that you and your opponent can keep track of increases and decreases.

Pay attention to your MP Gauge. No MP = No Spells
MP recovers each round by 25%. Since my MP is 100, it would recover by 25 points next turn.

Make your spells noticeable. Bold or (Parenthesize).

You have to switch Paradigms to use attacks from a specific Paradigm. I color coded mine.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 07:14 PM
One.
:D
CODE GEASS!
Two:
=O
Jaw Drop
Three: This isnt a freeverse. Not even remotely. Kthnxbai.

1. TEDDIE!
2. ;D ♥
3. It is more like a system.

Sephiroth
08-27-2010, 07:16 PM
/sits and watches

Teddie
08-27-2010, 07:17 PM
Sorry. I don't like it. It limits even more than the War System. IMO, the War System is just on the Cusp of being perfect. This goes beyond the line.

ALSO, I'm about this close to leaving the forum entirely. Just dont have the drive or the time.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 07:21 PM
Sorry. I don't like it. It limits even more than the War System. IMO, the War System is just on the Cusp of being perfect. This goes beyond the line.

ALSO, I'm about this close to leaving the forum entirely. Just dont have the drive or the time.

~Shrugs.~

I knew some would like it and others would not. You can not please everyone. It is new, so there are still things I must tweak to make better. I made the system in a matter of days.

Awe, I am sorry to hear that Teddie. :[

I will definitely miss you.

Teddie
08-27-2010, 07:23 PM
Its not official. Who knows, as of yet. I'm just doubtful of my availabilty. We shall have to see.

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 07:29 PM
Susanoo! Do not reply, we might change things.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 07:34 PM
Your not serious are you? Mid counter, and you say not to. >.>

junchurikioftheleaf
08-27-2010, 07:36 PM
hey my opinion dosent really matter since im not gonna join this but i feel the need to ask this i have final fantasy 13 and if i remember correctly since i havent played in a while flame strike wasent a fire ball attack their weapon caught on fire and they attacked with it...cept for the ever awesome sazh who shot flaming bullets of epicness at the enemys so did you change that up or something

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 07:40 PM
Your not serious are you? Mid counter, and you say not to. >.>

Forgive me, doll. x.x

Save your counter. We may continue.

hey my opinion dosent really matter since im not gonna join this but i feel the need to ask this i have final fantasy 13 and if i remember correctly since i havent played in a while flame strike wasent a fire ball attack their weapon caught on fire and they attacked with it...cept for the ever awesome sazh who shot flaming bullets of epicness at the enemys so did you change that up or something

Well, characters can customize the appearance of their spells. The damage remains the same. I wanted my Flamestrike to be little fireballs. But yes, you are correct.

junchurikioftheleaf
08-27-2010, 07:43 PM
ah thanks for clearing that up

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 09:37 PM
Initiating this battle, Celeste withdrew her Blazefire Saber. Switching into Ravager, Celeste performed the spell Fearsiphon. By starting this battle, Fearsiphon would boost her magical spells by ten damage points. Casting Flamestrike, Celeste released several fire blasts into the range of her opponent, threatening to incinerate his physique. Gripping Blazefire Saber, she dashed closer before executing a horizontal slash along his abdomen. Subsequently, she switched into Commando before using Attack. Bursting into a frenzy, Celeste unleashed twenty consecutive slashes against his body.

Health: 100/100
Magic: 25/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Post your Statistics at the end of your attacks, so that you and your opponent can keep track of increases and decreases.

Pay attention to your MP Gauge. No MP = No Spells
MP recovers each round by 25%. Since my MP is 100, it would recover by 25 points next turn.

Make your spells noticeable. Bold or (Parenthesize).

You have to switch Paradigms to use attacks from a specific Paradigm. I color coded mine.
I watched as my opponent withdrew her blade, I do the same, taking out my dual attached katanas. I switch into Ravager, and quickly preform Water sending a decent sized pulse of water at the flames, trying to use the elemental advantage to take our her attack while dealing minor damage. As she dashes closer, I use the length of my blade to its advantage. I parry her blade downward while jumping, blocking the horizontal attack. While in the air, I switch Paradigms to Synergist, Quickly casting protect as her attack hits to no avail from my magic. As I land, I switch Paradigms to Ravager once more and preform sparkstrike. Lightning arcs around my blade, suddenly expanding as the blade attempts to hit your neck at great velocity.

Health: 100/100
Magic: 20/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

(I think I did this right, please correct me if I'm wrong, elemental advantages count right?)

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 09:47 PM
1. You do not have Sentinel.

2. "..In one fluent motion, I spin the blade down, aiming for a critical point in her neck, while she is hopefully bent down from her momentum shifting.."

This can not happen because I would have to go back in time to counter the attack before releasing my attack again.

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 09:49 PM
1. You do not have Sentinel.

2. "..In one fluent motion, I spin the blade down, aiming for a critical point in her neck, while she is hopefully bent down from her momentum shifting.."

This can not happen because I would have to go back in time to counter the attack before releasing my attack again.
Arf, I'm used to my actual FF13 game still. =/

Well then, I'm tired but....(Off to edit)

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Arf, I'm used to my actual FF13 game still. =/

Well then, I'm tired but....(Off to edit)

Haha. It is all good.

I liked the Water spell against my Flamestrike. ;D

Noctis Arashi
08-27-2010, 09:55 PM
Haha. It is all good.

I liked the Water spell against my Flamestrike. ;D
Yay. :3

I was wondering if elemental advantages would work. =]

Kazumi Saitama
08-27-2010, 11:51 PM
I watched as my opponent withdrew her blade, I do the same, taking out my dual attached katanas. I switch into Ravager, and quickly preform Water sending a decent sized pulse of water at the flames, trying to use the elemental advantage to take our her attack while dealing minor damage. As she dashes closer, I use the length of my blade to its advantage. I parry her blade downward while jumping, blocking the horizontal attack. While in the air, I switch Paradigms to Synergist, Quickly casting protect as her attack hits to no avail from my magic. As I land, I switch Paradigms to Ravager once more and preform sparkstrike. Lightning arcs around my blade, suddenly expanding as the blade attempts to hit your neck at great velocity.

Health: 80/100
Magic: 20/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

(I think I did this right, please correct me if I'm wrong, elemental advantages count right?)

Flamestrike = 35 DA
Water = 30 DA
Elemental Advantage = 10 DA

Lightning > Water
Water > Fire
Fire > Ice
Ice > Wind
Wind > Lightning

So, Water would have overwhelmed Flamestrike while dealing an additional 5 DA to me.

However, Fearsiphon was activated, so this gave Flamestrike an additional 10 DA. So now, Flamestrike would overwhelm Water and deal an additional 5 DA to my opponent.

Also, characters can customize the appearance of their spells, but the damage remains the same.

Protect - Increases resistance to physical damage by 25%. - 30 MP

Make sure you read and understand your spells.

Attack = 20 DA
Protect = Increased physical resistance by 25%

20 - 25% = 15

You take 15 Damage.

After withdrawing Blazefire Saber, her opponent retaliated by extracting his own blade, a dual Katana. Releasing Flamestrike, he countered this incantation with the Water spell. Due to the elemental advantage, the Water spell would have overwhelmed her Flamestrike, but since Fearsiphon was activated, this boosted her Magic by ten damage points, causing five points of damage.

Advancing closer, she swung her blade, which was parried by his before unleashing Attack. Casting the Protect spell, he managed to receive only 75% damage. Swiftly changing into Ravager, she performed Sparkstrike to counter his. Clashing her blade against his, she negated their spells. Jumping back, she shifted Blazefire Saber into a rifle. Pulling its trigger, she fired two Normal Bullets toward his chest.

Normal Bullets will deal 15 DA.
23 Normal Bullets left.

Health: 100/100
Magic: 15/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Edit: When you have dealt damage to your opponent, change their HP Gauge as I have did above.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 09:01 AM
Alright, how fast are these bullets, and are we able to react to them?

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 09:10 AM
Normal Bullets maybe able to move at a good Supersonic level.

She has Pyro Bullets that are from a gun that is longer than most pistols. So the bullet need to travel trough the whole length gaining more speed. These make it now a high super sonic level. Rfile at such a close range with a norm bullet??

Your dead due in less shell can tank it.

junchurikioftheleaf
08-28-2010, 09:12 AM
this aint final fantasy `:|

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/halolz-dot-com-finalfantasyxiii-yourswordisfivefeettooshort.jpg could not resist XD

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 09:13 AM
Normal Bullets maybe able to move at a good Supersonic level.

She has Pyro Bullets that are from a gun that is longer than most pistols. So the bullet need to travel trough the whole length gaining more speed. These make it now a high super sonic level. Rfile at such a close range with a norm bullet??

Your dead due in less shell can tank it.
I don't listen to you about speed. :???:

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 09:14 AM
I don't listen to you about speed. :???:
You do know I copied most of that from what Vat told me right?

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 09:32 AM
You do know I copied most of that from what Vat told me right?
Proof?

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 09:33 AM
Okay.. Let me see where is was. Ted and Hals or Yoris and Hals. Give me a sec.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 09:46 AM
Lol at using guns to prove your logic. By the way, some handgun bullets have been proved to moved at Mach 1.9, where is thereby Transonic. Oh, so if we base it on your logic, we can say bullets are light speed now! Lol wut?

Read above.

Read above.

Proof? Now this is hand guns. Seeing as it goes
Trans
Hyper then a Rifle would be able to increase to Hyper.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 09:58 AM
Now this is hand guns. Seeing as it goes
Trans
Hyper then a Rifle would be able to increase to Hyper.
Lulwhat?

It goes,
Transonic
Supersonic
Hypersonic
Relativistic.

No gun EVER goes hypersonic.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 10:09 AM
if this is FF you can block the bullets.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 10:11 AM
Lulwhat?

It goes,
Transonic
Supersonic
Hypersonic
Relativistic.

No gun EVER goes hypersonic.
Ah yeah I was thinking something else.

Anyway, seeing as hand guns move at a Trans Sonic level of 1.9 then 2.2 would be shot gun level. Making a rifle a Hypersonic Mach 3 to 4 maybe. Depending on the caliber.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 10:13 AM
again FF characters have blocked bullets im pretty sure bout this

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 10:16 AM
again FF characters have blocked bullets im pretty sure bout this
Angeal yes but not from such a close range while getting the tar beat out of him with spells.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 10:17 AM
ha i knew someone did xD

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-28-2010, 10:28 AM
Cloud is Supersonic+, along with Angeal and Base Genesis. Sephiroth is probably Hypersonic, and Zack as well by hype, seeing as that he took out the majority of an enormous professional army sent from Shinra.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:19 AM
Sephiroth is hypersonic+ for sure. Because he can massively speedblitz cloud, who is a casual bullet timer. Zack is low hypersonic because, he's faster than cloud. But still got blitzed by sephiroth. So I'm assuming that I can dodge, or at least block the bullets.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:21 AM
Cloud is Supersonic+, along with Angeal and Base Genesis. Sephiroth is probably Hypersonic, and Zack as well by hype, seeing as that he took out the majority of an enormous professional army sent from Shinra.
You just have to use mind reading powers Eh? I am finding this information.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-28-2010, 11:22 AM
Not true. Cloud kept up with Sephy fine in AC..

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:22 AM
Sephiroth is hypersonic+ for sure. Because he can massively speedblitz cloud, who is a casual bullet timer. Zack is low hypersonic because, he's faster than cloud. But still got blitzed by sephiroth. So I'm assuming that I can dodge, or at least block the bullets.
HAHA! Cloud >> Level 1 which you are.

Cloud Dodges because of speed.

No way quit hyping yourself up.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:23 AM
Not true. Cloud kept up with Sephy fine in AC..
Only after Seven Swords.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:23 AM
You just have to use mind reading powers Eh? I am finding this information.
No, because zack still dodged an ambush by the majority of shinra using bullets and Rockets. And helicopters. Compared to one gunblade. Which has to switch forms. That is quite noticeable in the game.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:25 AM
No, because zack still dodged an ambush by the majority of shinra using bullets and Rockets. And helicopters. Compared to one gunblade. Which has to switch forms. That is quite noticeable in the game.
Oh yeah when he do that crap? He got Raped once they brought in the big boys. If you are talking about Criss Core then I call you a liar.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:26 AM
Not true. Cloud kept up with Sephy fine in AC..
Notice how nonchalant seph was. (he was laughing, talking, and using one hand the majority of the fight) and cloud used plot to win STILL. (Got stabbed like 6 times, up the foot and out the knee, his elbows, biceps, and impaled through the chest twice.)

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:27 AM
Oh yeah when he do that crap? He got Raped once they brought in the big boys. If you are talking about Criss Core then I call you a liar.
At the end, there were like 3 soldiers. And a helicopter. Note: His stamina was done and he did get shot a few times. But out of that massive army. Yeah I should be able to dodge or block her 3 bullets.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:28 AM
Also, why is shino turning into a troll again. Because he's spouting crap he doesn't know.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:31 AM
At the end, there were like 3 soldiers. And a helicopter. Note: His stamina was done and he did get shot a few times. But out of that massive army. Yeah I should be able to dodge or block her 3 bullets.
At the end. He got shot in the liver and chest. Two shots that a fighter NEEDS to block. So what he got past a army but he still got down because of two shots getting trough. Also that was at a high to mid range if I member. She has them + a spell meaning you have to block the spell and the shots at her close range FROM A RIFLE! This makes the shots even harder to tank.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:34 AM
Also, why is shino turning into a troll again. Because he's spouting crap he doesn't know.
Your like going into super hype mode thinking you Speh or Zacks level. Never at level 1 you are having a hard time blocking spells much less bullets from a rifle.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:35 AM
At the end. He got shot in the liver and chest. Two shots that a fighter NEEDS to block. So what he got past a army but he still got down because of two shots getting trough. Also that was at a high to mid range if I member. She has them + a spell meaning you have to block the spell and the shots at her close range FROM A RIFLE! This makes the shots even harder to tank.OMG a rifle! OH NOOO. I'm obviously already half dead because I just fought an army!!! AHHHHH. Cloud hasn't dodged bullets from mid range, OWAIT, he has. Rather nonchalantly. As well as a rookie zack.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:36 AM
Your like going into super hype mode thinking you Speh or Zacks level. Never at level 1 you are having a hard time blocking spells much less bullets from a rifle.
Lolwhat? I never said I was. But rookie zack (Level 1 I might add) Dodged bullets nonchalantly.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 11:46 AM
seph>>> FF7 verse. he can easily beat cloud. he beat angelea and genisis at once.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:50 AM
OMG a rifle! OH NOOO. I'm obviously already half dead because I just fought an army!!! AHHHHH. Cloud hasn't dodged bullets from mid range, OWAIT, he has. Rather nonchalantly. As well as a rookie zack.
Your missing the point making me winner of this debate.

At level 1 NOT REAL FF you are having hard time dodging spells. THATS MY POINT! You failed to counter my point making me winner.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 11:52 AM
I don't consider you a debate. Just a troll trying to prove false points with random crap he makes up in his head.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-28-2010, 11:58 AM
Only after Seven Swords.
Not really, having more swords does not increase your speed.
No, because zack still dodged an ambush by the majority of shinra using bullets and Rockets. And helicopters. Compared to one gunblade. Which has to switch forms. That is quite noticeable in the game.

Notice how nonchalant seph was. (he was laughing, talking, and using one hand the majority of the fight) and cloud used plot to win STILL. (Got stabbed like 6 times, up the foot and out the knee, his elbows, biceps, and impaled through the chest twice.)

Sephy always fights with one hand. There also is the boss fight in FF, as well as .Dissidia.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 11:58 AM
Orly? That's why we had a two side argument over a topic? Making this a debate and I winner due to lack of claims answered.

Nice try but my sister is Mock Trial expert in this.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 11:59 AM
seph could of easily killed cloud also in that movie vat

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 12:05 PM
shino will u stop before i report you for trolling and flame baiting susan

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:05 PM
Just ignore shino, because he is spouting crap. Don't respond to his posts, add him to your ignore list, and he will leave eventually.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:15 PM
shino will u stop before i report you for trolling and flame baiting susan
How? How? How? I am making claims and backing it up. Flame Baiting? Vat would have warned me. Did he? No, so I will get back on my course of making Susanoo look dumb because of his Hypeness.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 12:18 PM
Orly? That's why we had a two side argument over a topic? Making this a debate and I winner due to lack of claims answered.

Nice try but my sister is Mock Trial expert in this.
this is trolling/flame baiting. he could of easyly start to flame u
How? How? How? I am making claims and backing it up. Flame Baiting? Vat would have warned me. Did he? No, so I will get back on my course of making Susanoo look dumb because of his Hypeness.
this again. flame baiting. calling him dumb and all. this also trolling. just bc vat didnt warn you doesnt mean its not whaat it is. remeber vat is lazy sir

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:22 PM
this is trolling/flame baiting. he could of easyly start to flame u

this again. flame baiting. calling him dumb and all. this also trolling. just bc vat didnt warn you doesnt mean its not whaat it is. remeber vat is lazy sir
No it is not. It is stating a false claim with a real one. =/= flame baiting.

No He thinks he is t the level of Zack and Cloud In FV which is the like 100+ Weaker than real FF. I am proving him wrong not FB or Trolling.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 12:24 PM
if this is FF you can block the bullets.

Rep for you!

He just ended this argument.

Anbu Leader
08-28-2010, 12:28 PM
seph>>> FF7 verse. he can easily beat cloud. he beat angelea and genisis at once.

I agree but if Cloud gets a good hit with his sword he will eventually send him flying through the air.

shino will u stop before i report you for trolling and flame baiting susan

Please don't, I'll try to handle this.

Just ignore shino, because he is spouting crap. Don't respond to his posts, add him to your ignore list, and he will leave eventually.

Ehe, now thats just mean.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:31 PM
Just ignore shino, because he is spouting crap. Don't respond to his posts, add him to your ignore list, and he will leave eventually.
Oh yeah go ahead and ignore the one who keeps making you back away like a chicken. No wonder you won't fight me.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:35 PM
The mods and fail to to put there foot down with the flame baiting and trolling. Its annoying, especially when two fail members just sit here and watch. =/

/argument over

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:36 PM
I NEVER DID ANY OF THOSE THING! I only stated claims and other counters for claims.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:37 PM
Hrm, I think I heard somebody? Oh well.

Kazzzuumiiiii, I can block bullets, right?

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 12:40 PM
Hrm, I think I heard somebody? Oh well.

Kazzzuumiiiii, I can block bullets, right?

Yes, you can.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:40 PM
Handguns maybe. But not from her rifle. I think that maybe 308 cal?

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 12:40 PM
can u prove that he isnt at their level 1?

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:41 PM
Yes, you can.
If I block them correctly, then they won't cause damage right?

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:42 PM
If I block them correctly, then they won't cause damage right?
Oh please. A sharp pain and numbness has to be a side effect.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 12:43 PM
Handguns maybe. But not from her rifle. I think that maybe 308 cal?

Bullets can be blocked.

If I block them correctly, then they won't cause damage right?

Yes.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:46 PM
Bullets can be blocked.



Yes.
Yeah I know they can but from something like a rifle it can't if they are numbness is going to be a side effect. What Cal is your Blades Rifle form?

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:47 PM
Bullets can be blocked.



Yes.
So I'll be fine? (I get confused when people just say "yes")

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 12:47 PM
Yeah I know they can but from something like a rifle it can't if they are numbness is going to be a side effect. What Cal is your Blades Rifle form?

in final fantasy it doesnt matter what cal your gun is they still can be blocked

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 12:50 PM
So I'll be fine? (I get confused when people just say "yes")

It depends on how you block it.

in final fantasy it doesnt matter what cal your gun is they still can be blocked

Thank you.

Shino, stop harassing Susanoo.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 12:51 PM
Such as rockets. :3

Alright.

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 12:59 PM
This should be based off of actual guns. Gr The anime world.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:04 PM
A Lesson Archive is located on the front page. If you do not understand anything, refer to that page or ask me.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 01:05 PM
i would call it CG worl lol but yeah and kazumi if u have any questions bout FF just pm me :)

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 01:06 PM
i would call it CG worl lol but yeah and kazumi if u have any questions bout FF just pm me :)

Or me. >.> I have played them all. And beaten most.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:06 PM
i would call it CG worl lol but yeah and kazumi if u have any questions bout FF just pm me :)

Thanks Seph.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 01:11 PM
or susan xD and no problem lady kazumi

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 01:12 PM
Wait, I was in ravager mode while using black gauntlets. Which increase the attack power of magic when in ravager. So shouldn't water AT LEAST have negated flamestrike?

ASLO: It is infused with lightning materia/magic. So shouldn't my Sparkstrike use this to its advantage?

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:20 PM
Wait, I was in ravager mode while using black gauntlets. Which increase the attack power of magic when in ravager. So shouldn't water AT LEAST have negated flamestrike?

>.>
<.<

Son of a..

That is why you should mention these things!

Ya done fudged everything up. >/

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 01:21 PM
>.>
<.<

Son of a..

That is why you should mention these things!

Ya done fudged everything up. >/

Well I was countering, and I had a moment. `~(

So yah.

I FUDGED IT UP? WE, I repeat WE FUDGED IT UP. `;)

Shino Hatake
08-28-2010, 01:22 PM
GOD DARNIT! You done made my try to think for once on this one.

Way to fuging go Master.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:29 PM
Well I was countering, and I had a moment. `~(

So yah.

I FUDGED IT UP? WE, I repeat WE FUDGED IT UP. `;)

LIES! >.<

Just edit my Health Points.

Lightning Materia = 5 DA
Ravager = 10 DA

So, I take 15 DA.

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 01:29 PM
wait! we have materia now??

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:38 PM
wait! we have materia now??

The Black Gauntlets are infused with Lightning Materia.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 01:44 PM
Flamestrike = 35 DA
Water = 30 DA
Elemental Advantage = 10 DA

Lightning > Water
Water > Fire
Fire > Ice
Ice > Wind
Wind > Lightning

So, Water would have overwhelmed Flamestrike while dealing an additional 5 DA to me.

However, Fearsiphon was activated, so this gave Flamestrike an additional 10 DA. So now, Flamestrike would overwhelm Water and deal an additional 5 DA to my opponent.

Also, characters can customize the appearance of their spells, but the damage remains the same.

Protect - Increases resistance to physical damage by 25%. - 30 MP

Make sure you read and understand your spells.

Attack = 20 DA
Protect = Increased physical resistance by 25%

20 - 25% = 15

You take 15 Damage.

After withdrawing Blazefire Saber, her opponent retaliated by extracting his own blade, a dual Katana. Releasing Flamestrike, he countered this incantation with the Water spell. Due to the elemental advantage, the Water spell would have overwhelmed her Flamestrike, but since Fearsiphon was activated, this boosted her Magic by ten damage points, causing five points of damage.

Advancing closer, she swung her blade, which was parried by his before unleashing Attack. Casting the Protect spell, he managed to receive only 75% damage. Swiftly changing into Ravager, she performed Sparkstrike to counter his. Clashing her blade against his, she negated their spells. Jumping back, she shifted Blazefire Saber into a rifle. Pulling its trigger, she fired two Normal Bullets toward his chest.

Normal Bullets will deal 15 DA.
23 Normal Bullets left.

Health: 85/100
Magic: 15/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Edit: When you have dealt damage to your opponent, change their HP Gauge as I have did above.


*As she jumps back, I notice the form of her blade switches. Due to her being at a longer range, I assume it will be a projectile attack. I spin my blade at extreme speed, protecting the height and length of my body. I learn my assumption is right when two bullets hit my rapidly spinning blade as the recoil sends me back a bit. Still in ravager, I use the spell Sparkstrike. My blade sparks with lightning as I dash at her, getting into close range. I pivot around to her right, sending a long slash of lightning in a diagonal upward motion. This slash's AoE is increased dramatically as lightning arcs along my blade. The power is increased due to my guantlets as well as the lightning materia in the gauntlets, increasing its DA from 35 DA to 50 DA. I move fluently with the slash, spinning my blade in a downward arch at her legs with one hand. Then suddenly, with my off hand, I attempt to hit her with a extremely fast right hook. The speed and power of this hook are enhanced from the black gauntlets. Increasing the normal, 10 DA to now 20 DA. (right?) I then jump back, detaching my two blades into both of my hands.*

Health: 80/100
Magic: 25/100
Strength: 100/100
Speed: 100/100
Agility: 100/100
Offense: 100/100
Defense: 100/100
Resistance: 100/100

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:50 PM
How did you figure 20 DA?

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Never mind.

Normal Attacks = 10 DA
Black Gauntlets = 5 DA
Lightning Materia = 5 DA

That makes sense.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 02:05 PM
Never mind.

Normal Attacks = 10 DA
Black Gauntlets = 5 DA
Lightning Materia = 5 DA

That makes sense.
Yeah.

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-28-2010, 02:09 PM
Black Gauntlets now will also boost a Commando's power by 10 DA.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 02:28 PM
Black Gauntlets now will also boost a Commando's power by 10 DA.

Really?

Sephiroth
08-28-2010, 02:30 PM
/sits adn keeps tabs

Vatanui AKA Pride
08-28-2010, 02:30 PM
Yuppers. Same with a Ravager's.

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 02:49 PM
Wait a second then.

Kazumi Saitama
08-28-2010, 03:21 PM
Black Gauntlets now will also boost a Commando's power by 10 DA.

It does. o.o

Noctis Arashi
08-28-2010, 03:34 PM
It does. o.o
>=D

I'm gonna have FUN.

Kazumi Saitama
08-29-2010, 02:30 PM
I will try to respond to this tonight.