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Aiyami
08-17-2010, 11:45 AM
Is it just me or has sakue cross the line? :???: Even if he was to become back agin i do not think everyone can forget about what happened.

ricky100
08-17-2010, 12:01 PM
Is it just me or has sakue cross the line? :???: Even if he was to become back agin i do not think everyone can forget about what happened.


I think sasuke deserves another chance since, sasuke should be forgiving to konoha what happened and not the other way around.Since it's all konohas fault for what sasuke had to go through.

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 12:22 PM
1. sasuke tried to kill sakura and naruto

2. attacked the 5 kages

3. damaged A's Arm severely

4. killed Danzo, a leaf counselor

5. killed a Ninja from the Hidden Cloud village

6. Declared war to Konoha

7. attacked and severely injured samurai

8. turned his back on Suigetsu, and Jugo, the person that saved hiss butt plenty of times

9. He stabbed Karin to kill Danzo, a person that looked up to him

10. Ignored his brothers wish. Itachi brought peace, Sasuke brought war.

and more..



Sasuke really went too far.. I understand that the konoha elders were at fault for the Uchiha massacre but it was the Uchiha's own fault why that happened.. They planned a coup that could start a war between the village. So Itachi really had only one choice, to help Madara kill off the Uchiha therefore stopping the deathcounts significantly by preventing a war that involves not only the Uchiha and Konoha, but also by other attacking villagers that wants to take advantage of the situation. If Itachi didnt do what he did, more innocent lives would have been ruined. Sasuke being granted to the side of good again really is a little unfair. He made a lot of childish moves for his revenge. If he was gonna take revenge, the least he could do is just narrow his target to the ones who's really at fault, the Konoha counselor. Sasuke should ask them if Madara's story is true. From what I see, Sasuke is basing his decision solely on what Madara say. He should have the maturity to atleast ask around to make sure his actions are justified.. Especially if you concider the fact that Madara is not all that trusthworthy seeing that he lied to Sasuke about the Ninetail

tigress108
08-17-2010, 12:31 PM
I used to like Sasuke. I thought that he was a pretty interesting character; a good foil for Naruto. However, over time Sasuke continuously disappointed me. As a viewer, I have given him many chances as well. Quite frankly, I've grown tired of hearing about him. I found his faster-than-light transition from despising Itachi to grieving for him to be incredibly shallow. Even if he does understand the truth, could it really have been THAT easy to swallow? It seemed too easy to me for him to completely toss aside everything that he had ever lived for. But hey, that's just me.

SageKyuubi
08-17-2010, 12:38 PM
I think he still has a chance because think about it he killed people that werent considered good guys like Orochimaru, Danzo, Diedera, and Itachi so until he kills someone like Kakashi, Sakura, or any other of the good guys he's just all talk and just a possible threat

ricky100
08-17-2010, 12:40 PM
1. sasuke tried to kill sakura and naruto

2. attacked the 5 kages

3. damaged A's Arm severely

4. killed Danzo, a leaf counselor

5. killed a Ninja from the Hidden Cloud village

6. Declared war to Konoha

7. attacked and severely injured samurai

8. turned his back on Suigetsu, and Jugo, the person that saved hiss butt plenty of times

9. He stabbed Karin to kill Danzo, a person that looked up to him

10. Ignored his brothers wish. Itachi brought peace, Sasuke brought war.

and more..



Sasuke really went too far.. I understand that the konoha elders were at fault for the Uchiha massacre but it was the Uchiha's own fault why that happened.. They planned a coup that could start a war between the village. So Itachi really had only one choice, to help Madara kill off the Uchiha therefore stopping the deathcounts significantly by preventing a war that involves not only the Uchiha and Konoha, but also by other attacking villagers that wants to take advantage of the situation. If Itachi didnt do what he did, more innocent lives would have been ruined. Sasuke being granted to the side of good again really is a little unfair. He made a lot of childish moves for his revenge. If he was gonna take revenge, the least he could do is just narrow his target to the ones who's really at fault, the Konoha counselor. Sasuke should ask them if Madara's story is true. From what I see, Sasuke is basing his decision solely on what Madara say. He should have the maturity to atleast ask around to make sure his actions are justified.. Especially if you concider the fact that Madara is not all that trusthworthy seeing that he lied to Sasuke about the Ninetail

I think i know why sasuke belives madara so much.It's all because madara is the only member of sasuke's family and he just wants to be loved again.All of those 10 actions of sasuke you said, had to be done.He soa dead bodies of his familly, when he was just a kid.The emotions got to him.And killing he's team was the only way.He just wants revenge and sasuke soa, that his teammates were not strong enough for the revenge and he just had to get rid of them.He thought they were keeping him down.And the whole uchiha wanting to take over konoha was madara's fault.Because of him they seperated uhiha clan of the village.And they were all monitering.Uchiha just wanted freedom.

mangagirl
08-17-2010, 12:41 PM
maybe his friends will forget.. but not the village.. thats why i dont think he will be good again

Taker369
08-17-2010, 12:48 PM
1. sasuke tried to kill sakura and naruto

2. attacked the 5 kages

3. damaged A's Arm severely

4. killed Danzo, a leaf counselor

5. killed a Ninja from the Hidden Cloud village

6. Declared war to Konoha

7. attacked and severely injured samurai

8. turned his back on Suigetsu, and Jugo, the person that saved hiss butt plenty of times

9. He stabbed Karin to kill Danzo, a person that looked up to him

10. Ignored his brothers wish. Itachi brought peace, Sasuke brought war.

and more..

he never turnd his back on Suigetsu or jugo were did u get this info ? as for karin she didnt look up to sasuke she had a crush on him plus she is usless to him and who gives a crap if he killed danzo sasuke can turn good again anything can happen

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 12:53 PM
I think he still has a chance because think about it he killed people that werent considered good guys like Orochimaru, Danzo, and Itachi so until he kills someone like Kakashi, Sakura, or any other of the good guys he's just all talk and just a possible threat
interestingly it really depends on how you view the characters

Danzo is seen as a bad guy but he really isnt.. All his intentions are good.. He is a very sneaky dude that led people to believe that his intention was to work with Orochimaru to bring down Konoha when he really was just after Sasuke's head. And i agree with him, if he would have succeded in doing so, the problem right now wouldnt as big. I just dont agree with Danzo's immoral ways of doing things but that doesnt take away the fact that he meant well.

Itachi, isnt a bad guy.. killing him was pure plot. Technically he IS a good guy since he is the secret spy that watched over Akatsuki from the inside. So sasuke already has killed a good guy


Orochimaru, we all know that his a villain in the series but a villain with less threat then the akatsuki. Orochimaru and Konoha, aswell as the other villagers have one enemy in common, the Akatsuki. If Orochimaru would have lived, He could have been a major help in the 4th Ninja war considering that Orochimaru was already plotting on killing off the akatsuki himself. But instead, we have sasuke who's in the Akatsuki.

To conclude it depends on how you view a character.

P.S. sasuke killed a ninja from the hidden clouds. the guy he killed aint concidered bad

ricky100
08-17-2010, 12:53 PM
he never turnd his back on Suigetsu or jugo were did u get this info ? as for karin she didnt look up to sasuke she had a crush on him plus she is usless to him and who gives a crap if he killed danzo sasuke can turn good again anything can happen

Didn't you read manga?Sasuke left jugo and suigetsu in that samurai temple or whatever that is.They were both in bad shape and he left them.And i understand why.And danzo is the reason for uchiha clans deffection and he deserved to die.And he killed third!!

Taker369
08-17-2010, 12:55 PM
Didn't you read manga?Sasuke left jugo and suigetsu in that samurai temple or whatever that is.They were both in bad shape and he left them.And i understand why.And danzo is the reason for uchiha clans deffection and he deserved to die.And he killed third!!

if i rember sasuke was knocked out from a fight and madara left them and who cares danzo deserved to die.

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 01:01 PM
he never turnd his back on Suigetsu or jugo were did u get this info ? as for karin she didnt look up to sasuke she had a crush on him plus she is usless to him and who gives a crap if he killed danzo sasuke can turn good again anything can happen
the fact that sasuke said to forget about them cause his after Danzo is turning his back on them especialy if you concidered the fact that if it wasnt for jugo and suigetsu, he'd be dead right now.

useless to him? you act like Karin is some burden to sasuke or something. remember, sasuke asked karin personally to join his team and not the other way around, she helped team sasuke alot from healing, to sensing nearby ninjas therefore avoiding confrontation. and then in the end his just gonna stab her because she was no longer use to him? whats the moral in that?

yes anything can happen thats true but im saying as off now, sasuke siding with the good is just a little unfair because of the stuff he'd done. he has to do something to repent for what he'd done, thats all.

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 01:05 PM
I think i know why sasuke belives madara so much.It's all because madara is the only member of sasuke's family and he just wants to be loved again.All of those 10 actions of sasuke you said, had to be done.He soa dead bodies of his familly, when he was just a kid.The emotions got to him.And killing he's team was the only way.He just wants revenge and sasuke soa, that his teammates were not strong enough for the revenge and he just had to get rid of them.He thought they were keeping him down.And the whole uchiha wanting to take over konoha was madara's fault.Because of him they seperated uhiha clan of the village.And they were all monitering.Uchiha just wanted freedom.
i doubt that just because sasuke even said
"we are not gonna get used by the akatsuki, we are gonna use them"
that doesnt sound like a person looking for love. to me it sounds like his using the akatsuki to help him with his revenge. by the way he said that it actually seems like, he may someday turn his back on Madara and the Akatsuki after his done using the,.

ricky100
08-17-2010, 01:11 PM
i doubt that just because sasuke even said
"we are not gonna get used by the akatsuki, we are gonna use them"
that doesnt sound like a person looking for love. to me it sounds like his using the akatsuki to help him with his revenge. by the way he said that it actually seems like, he may someday turn his back on Madara and the Akatsuki after his done using the,.

I think, that using akatsuki part, was some sort of cower so he wouldn't be considered a sissy.Or that he felt like that, the first time he met madara.But now i think he's feelings have changed.Specially after he got itachi's eyes ,thanks to madara.And even more when he sees, that itachi is alive once again, and i bet madara will take the credit, so sasuke will even more apreciate madara.

SageKyuubi
08-17-2010, 01:20 PM
interestingly it really depends on how you view the characters

Danzo is seen as a bad guy but he really isnt.. All his intentions are good.. He is a very sneaky dude that led people to believe that his intention was to work with Orochimaru to bring down Konoha when he really was just after Sasuke's head. And i agree with him, if he would have succeded in doing so, the problem right now wouldnt as big. I just dont agree with Danzo's immoral ways of doing things but that doesnt take away the fact that he meant well.

Itachi, isnt a bad guy.. killing him was pure plot. Technically he IS a good guy since he is the secret spy that watched over Akatsuki from the inside. So sasuke already has killed a good guy


Orochimaru, we all know that his a villain in the series but a villain with less threat then the akatsuki. Orochimaru and Konoha, aswell as the other villagers have one enemy in common, the Akatsuki. If Orochimaru would have lived, He could have been a major help in the 4th Ninja war considering that Orochimaru was already plotting on killing off the akatsuki himself. But instead, we have sasuke who's in the Akatsuki.

To conclude it depends on how you view a character.

P.S. sasuke killed a ninja from the hidden clouds. the guy he killed aint concidered bad

That is true i know itachi was never bad but that was the POV from people that dont know the truth about him, but otherwise your right it depends on how you view a character

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 01:24 PM
I think, that using akatsuki part, was some sort of cower so he wouldn't be considered a sissy.Or that he felt like that, the first time he met madara.But now i think he's feelings have changed.Specially after he got itachi's eyes ,thanks to madara.And even more when he sees, that itachi is alive once again, and i bet madara will take the credit, so sasuke will even more apreciate madara.
no i dont sense this at all. and no situation can prove/support this
kabuto is working with madara, there is no reason to hide the fact that kabuto was the once who revived itachi. and i highly doubt sasuke's gonna be thankfull of it.. after all, how would like to know if one of ur bro were revived and turned into a zombie, id be pisses

ricky100
08-17-2010, 01:31 PM
no i dont sense this at all. and no situation can prove/support this
kabuto is working with madara, there is no reason to hide the fact that kabuto was the once who revived itachi. and i highly doubt sasuke's gonna be thankfull of it.. after all, how would like to know if one of ur bro were revived and turned into a zombie, id be pisses

We'll see.And it could support it, since madara is the only member of his familly.And you can't know, that it can't be possible.

RealNinja
08-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Not realy imagine if you whole entire family got wiped out and you come home and see them f up. You most definetly wont be right. Then you find out that the kill was ordered. The only thing that is wrong is Sasuke is going to kill innocents. But ninjas that try to defend his enemies get whats coming to them. Mind they business. One killer bee is not all that innocent either he is a killer too so is the kages. The samurai would have been alright if they minded their own business. Dont get me wrong I dont like Sasuke like that but if I was in his shoes I probably would have done the same thing he did.

SimpleGenin
08-17-2010, 02:39 PM
Not realy imagine if you whole entire family got wiped out and you come home and see them f up. You most definetly wont be right. Then you find out that the kill was ordered. The only thing that is wrong is Sasuke is going to kill innocents. But ninjas that try to defend his enemies get whats coming to them. Mind they business. One killer bee is not all that innocent either he is a killer too so is the kages. The samurai would have been alright if they minded their own business. Dont get me wrong I dont like Sasuke like that but if I was in his shoes I probably would have done the same thing he did.
bee and the kages killers? haha they prolly killed many people before concidering the fact that Oonoki and Tsunade lived through several wars, but not in the manner sasuke has.. the kages are loyal to their village and would do anything to protect them, thats different from sasuke whose loyalty is solely to himself.. besides it wasnt the village that decided the whole uchiha massacre but 3 people.. the 3 advisor. other then that no one knew about it..not even Tsunade.. so involving others is just murder .. and theres no way of justifying it

Kiseki
08-17-2010, 02:40 PM
99% of the people in Naruto think so.
But Naruto still believes in him.
I think the forum will be 50/50 minded about this.

Personally I think he crossed the line. He could stop after killing Itachi.

ricky100
08-17-2010, 02:46 PM
99% of the people in Naruto think so.
But Naruto still believes in him.
I think the forum will be 50/50 minded about this.

Personally I think he crossed the line. He could stop after killing Itachi.

He could, but he wasn't the only one part of this.The elders have even bigger impact on this.

RealNinja
08-17-2010, 02:52 PM
bee and the kages killers? haha they prolly killed many people before concidering the fact that Oonoki and Tsunade lived through several wars, but not in the manner sasuke has.. the kages are loyal to their village and would do anything to protect them, thats different from sasuke whose loyalty is solely to himself.. besides it wasnt the village that decided the whole uchiha massacre but 3 people.. the 3 advisor. other then that no one knew about it..not even Tsunade.. so involving others is just murder .. and theres no way of justifying it

The kages are in no way saints. The Raikage ordered a kidnapping on hinata an was willing to start a war even though it was his fault. The old man used the akatsuki to do his dirty work. Gaara is a mass murderer. The chick is dirty since Madara controlled he village meaning she followed his orders. Bee I not to sure about him as skill he was though I am sure he was put to work. So are they realy that different.

VillarbaDye
09-07-2010, 05:20 PM
He will not come back to the village. He will probably die before that, either being a bad guy as he is right now or at the last minute be good again but die soon afterwards.

And yes he has gone too far, after stabbing poor Karin. :(

Throw Rasen-Shuriken
09-08-2010, 04:46 AM
I chose, I do not know, because my thoughts are some what divided on this particular topic, the common sense to the situation would be for someone from the Leaf to finally put an end to what he has done. Though unfortunately the emotional side to this contradicts it, therefore the answer becomes harder. For me personally I believe in second chances and would go to the emotional side and find a way to get him back to the Village and then some how make up for everything he has done. Though for Common Sense, it seems for logical just to end his vendetta, because if you don't, logically, it will take more time, this is the quicker option, but Naruto will not have it that way so it is definately going to be the emotional side, what a rollercoaster that will be.

JenniferWonderland
09-11-2010, 07:50 AM
He hurt karin {is she still alive} Dx anyways! He passed the line

Leaf/Mist Shinobi250
09-12-2010, 02:10 PM
Nah I don't personally Sasuke has gone TO far. It's not like he has killed innocent people yet...I think. >.> Well ANYWAY even if his crimes like attacking the Kages, or killing Danzo are not forgiven I'm sure they would still give him a 2nd Chance.

IPITYTHEFOOLZ
09-12-2010, 02:12 PM
He has gone to far. There is no turning back now.

-Dattebayo-
09-12-2010, 02:31 PM
It's pretty obivous if he passed the line or not.
( he so passed the line D: )

THE X UCHIHA
09-12-2010, 03:33 PM
I dunno if he gone so far but I think he is up 2 something

kyasarin
09-12-2010, 04:48 PM
i think he has gone to far

Overload
09-21-2010, 08:53 PM
I think he has and he doesn't know who he is anymore.