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Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:03 AM
Location: BG Default
Knowledge: The girls have knowledge on Jirobo, but Jirobo has not knowledge on them.
Staring Distance: 40 meters
Restrictions:

Poisoned kunai
Sleeping bombs; But they only last 3 seconds.
Each person can wake up 1 time without waiting the time limit.
State of Mind: Sakura is IC; Jirobo and Hinata are BL, with intent to kill.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:22 AM
PTS = Pre time skip
TS = Time skip

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 08:35 AM
Someone made this thread. And the 'Kabuto vs Gai ' thread on NF BD :/
You made both of those threads here in the BG. Are you the same person ? Or, just copying their threads?

In any case, I don't believe Jirobo has any better speed feats than Sakura. Even in CS2. She has better reaction feats, what with dodging some of Sasoris puppets on her own. And countering Iron Sand attacks. Mostly on her own. She should be able to avoid Jirobos attacks, possibly hit him with a sleep bomb, and kill him while he's asleep. If he catches Sakura in his dome. She could always have Hinata use her Byakugan to uncover its weak spot. And break out of it that way. Jirobo has better physical strength in CS2 form. But, I don't believe he has any better chances of landing a hit :/

Sakura and Hinata win.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 08:41 AM
Jirobo blitzes and locks them in his prison, absorbs their chakra, undoes the jutsu and eats them, then takes a nap.

SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 08:46 AM
sakura can solo because she was able to dodge sasori's puppet. rock dome thingy wouldnt even work because sakura can just punch a hole through that..
Jirobo isnt as fast as sakura, plus sakura is a medical ninja.. she has the healing factor as well as strength intellegence and speed

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:49 AM
Someone made this thread. And the 'Kabuto vs Gai ' thread on NF BD :/
You made both of those threads here in the BG. Are you the same person ? Or, just copying their threads?

In any case, I don't believe Jirobo has any better speed feats than Sakura. Even in CS2. She has better reaction feats, what with dodging some of Sasoris puppets on her own. And countering Iron Sand attacks. Mostly on her own. She should be able to avoid Jirobos attacks, possibly hit him with a sleep bomb, and kill him while he's asleep. If he catches Sakura in his dome. She could always have Hinata use her Byakugan to uncover its weak spot. And break out of it that way. Jirobo has better physical strength in CS2 form. But, I don't believe he has any better chances of landing a hit :/

Sakura and Hinata win.

Little bit of both. I found those threads and thought that they'd fetch nice debates over here, with different restrictions. What I did, was I took the threads, and remade the battles.

Anyway, Jirobo is slow. But in CS2, he is much faster. Even if he's still not fast enough, all of them are close range fighters, and Jirobo has stronger attacks.

She may have dodged the puppets, but Chiyo guided her at first, so she had a feel in the first place. It wasn't from the beginning. If it were, it would be a bigger factor in this fight. But, I just don't think that she has good enough reaction time at close combat to be able to dodge those punches.

She did counter Iron Sand, but she's not magnetic. xD

If she uses a sleep bomb, he uses that free wake up, and when she goes in for the kill, he punches her head off. Even if that doesn't work, he goes on the defensive if until she uses the other one. He'd be able to dodge on if he was on guard. He's faster than the eye can see, maybe 100-150 miles per hour? Tell me if I'm overestimating him.

Sakura's punches are chakra infused, so they'd be a regular punch because if she enforces her chakra, it'll just get sucked away, and she wouldn't be able to hit it hard enough to break the wall. She can't contain her chakra, her attacks aren't strong enough. That's the bottom line.

He could use the sleep bomb as well. He uses it, to get in nice and close, she wakes up, as he anticipates, and then he just whales her in the face.

Wow, that was fun. xD

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:51 AM
sakura can solo because she was able to dodge sasori's puppet. rock dome thingy wouldnt even work because sakura can just punch a hole through that..
Jirobo isnt as fast as sakura, plus sakura is a medical ninja.. she has the healing factor as well as strength intellegence and speed

Really? Solo? I think not.

She can't as I said before, Sakura's punches are regular because they are chakra infused, and without chakra, she's just an average strength character. She can't punch that hole.

Yeah, while she sits and heals herself, Jirobo goes and kicks her face off.

SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 08:52 AM
absorbing chakra takes converting, yes sakura's punches are chakra infused but it would take time for the dome to convert her chakra to him.. it isnt instentanios.. sakura definantly has the power to break the dome..

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:53 AM
Really? Then how come Naruto couldn't form Rasengan at all while he was in there?

SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 08:57 AM
could say the same thing, kiba dented the walls, don tell me that didnt take chakra, clearly physical attacks have some affects but kiba was just too weak to blast through it.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 08:58 AM
But the attack was made weak by the wall that was siphoning the chakra.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 08:59 AM
Jirobo can't blitz Time Skip Sakura. He isn't that fast. In fact, if anything she is faster than him.
Where's the proof that contradicts Jirobo being faster then?
sakura can solo because she was able to dodge sasori's puppet. rock dome thingy wouldnt even work because sakura can just punch a hole through that..
Jirobo isnt as fast as sakura, plus sakura is a medical ninja.. she has the healing factor as well as strength intellegence and speed
Chiyo was controlling her, plus she won't be able to hit Jirobo if she has no chakra left and is stuck in his Earth Prison.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Where's the proof that contradicts Jirobo being faster then?

Although he's slow, it's not by much. He's faster than the eye can see. So is Sakura.

Chiyo was controlling her, plus she won't be able to hit Jirobo if she has no chakra left and is stuck in his Earth Prison.
Thank you! he doesn't get that upon contact with the wall, the chakra gets siphoned!

SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 09:05 AM
But the attack was made weak by the wall that was siphoning the chakra.
so you awknowledge that physical attack have some affect, in that case sakura can definantly bust through the wall.. dont compare kiba's tunneling fang to Sakura's focused punch.. they are completely in dif level.. sakura's punch could level a field, can kiba do the same in the original naruto? i don think so.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 09:06 AM
Sasori fight. Chiyo wasn't controlling her the whole time.

Where is the proof that Jirobo is faster?
Nope, but she was getting stomped until she wad being controlled.

With the removal of OM it's gonna be tough to actually tell you specific feats, but I'm gonna get them.

Speed wouldn't matter anyway, if Sakura comes to attack he puts her in his prison, ooh, big deal, she dodged Sasori, where are his speed feats?

What's she gonna do when she gets caught in the prison anyway? Because Sakura's punches>FoF obviously, and plus his prison instantly restores itself shown when Kiba attacked it.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:07 AM
Kiba is a building buster, Sakura is a Building+ buster. He dented it, she might be able to crack it. But that's assuming her chakra isn't sucked away.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 09:09 AM
Kiba is a building buster, Sakura is a Building+ buster. He dented it, she might be able to crack it. But that's assuming her chakra isn't sucked away.
And then it repairs itself. And it will be.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:10 AM
And then it repairs itself. And it will be.
Exactly my point. Here attacks can't be strong enough to break it all at once.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 09:10 AM
Little bit of both. I found those threads and thought that they'd fetch nice debates over here, with different restrictions. What I did, was I took the threads, and remade the battles.
Okay.

Anyway, Jirobo is slow. But in CS2, he is much faster. Even if he's still not fast enough, all of them are close range fighters, and Jirobo has stronger attacks.
Much faster? I don't remember him being any faster. Proof please.

She may have dodged the puppets, but Chiyo guided her at first, so she had a feel in the first place. It wasn't from the beginning. If it were, it would be a bigger factor in this fight. But, I just don't think that she has good enough reaction time at close combat to be able to dodge those punches.
Not really. All the puppets are attacking her in different directions and different ways. So its not like shes dodging in the same way each time. She can't 'get this jist' of avoid an army of puppets. She has the same speed as Jirobo. Except better reaction speed. She has the edge.

She did counter Iron Sand, but she's not magnetic. xD
...What does that have to do with anything? :|

If she uses a sleep bomb, he uses that free wake up, and when she goes in for the kill, he punches her head off. Even if that doesn't work, he goes on the defensive if until she uses the other one. He'd be able to dodge on if he was on guard. He's faster than the eye can see, maybe 100-150 miles per hour? Tell me if I'm overestimating him.
It takes him three seconds to wake up. Sakura easily Shunshin at him before he wakes up. Besides when you wake up from sleep, your brain isn't fully functional he couldn't just insta-attack her. It'd take a few seconds for him to adjust to being awake first. Also, if he was in CS2, and he fell asleep - the seal would probably reside.


Sakura's punches are chakra infused, so they'd be a regular punch because if she enforces her chakra, it'll just get sucked away, and she wouldn't be able to hit it hard enough to break the wall. She can't contain her chakra, her attacks aren't strong enough. That's the bottom line.
As I said, Jirobos dome has a weak point. Hence why Naruto and Kiba were able to break through the dome even though they were using chakra to power their attacks. Why shouldn't Sakura be able to? Also, Jirobo doesn't insta-suck out all your chakra. Its a slow process. And you can still use chakra while inside it. Naruto and Kiba showed that.

He could use the sleep bomb as well. He uses it, to get in nice and close, she wakes up, as he anticipates, and then he just whales her in the face.
How could he get a hold of the sleep bomb? Unless he was trying to feel her ass up or something. She keeps it in a back pouch, Jirobo has no knowledge on her anyway. So he wouldn't know what the bombs are or what they do. Or that Sakura even has them.

Wow, that was fun. xD

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SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 09:11 AM
And then it repairs itself. And it will be.
assuming the dome doesnt break completely

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:14 AM
assuming the dome doesnt break completely

It won't. Kiba couldn't. Sakura can't. Simple as that.

Not at all.

You do that.

He can't make the prison before he gets a fist to the face.

Break out of it obviously. She has mega streangth remember? And yes they would work. People were still able to use chakra inside the dome (akamaru transforming) And it is a fast restore, not an instant one.


The main source of her strength is chara, which get sucked out.

SimpleGenin
08-05-2010, 09:16 AM
It won't. Kiba couldn't. Sakura can't. Simple as that.

and your assuming that kiba and sakura has the same physical strength.
kiba couldnt therefor theres no way sakura cant just because kiba cant..

totally dif ninjas

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 09:21 AM
assuming the dome doesnt break completely
It won't.
Not at all.

You do that.

He can't make the prison before he gets a fist to the face.

Break out of it obviously. She has mega streangth remember? And yes they would work. People were still able to use chakra inside the dome (akamaru transforming) And it is a fast restore, not an instant one.
I will. searching at the moment, know the chapter by any chance?

"Mega strength?" How would she know where to hit? No matter if she does so or not her power <<<< Fang over Fang plus she can only use her "Mega Strength" Provided she has the chakra to do so.

So how do Suckura's punches amount to Fang over Fang in any way, which was repaired instantly?

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:22 AM
@Lady Tsunade:

His reaction time had dramatically changed, or was that CS1?

Oh, now I know what you're talking aobut. She wasn't dodging them, though, she was punching them away. All she really did was punch anything with a knife, and it broke. She didn't dodge them.

Idk, I just wanted to say that. xD

So? I gave them a free wake up, that you didn't have to wait for, but I guess you're right about the brain functionality. But it's instinct to dodge or catch a punch. And who's to say that Jirobo won't throw the bomb before Sakura does? That's always a possiblity. It doesn't have to be this one sided. xD

So? You said that already. But Naruto's Rasengan was sucked up. But like Naruto's Rasengan, if there's an exposed part of chakra, it'll get sucked up. Which also means that she can't heal herself. Just wanted to point that out. (Or at least while she's in the dome.)

If he's able to dodge it, he will. And maybe he will feel up her ass! >:[ Plus, he has his own.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:25 AM
and your assuming that kiba and sakura has the same physical strength.
kiba couldnt therefor theres no way sakura cant just because kiba cant..

totally dif ninjas

They do. It's proven. Sakura is a little bit stronger than Kiba, maybe fraction more.

That doesn't matter, there's proof that Sakura's busting level isn't high enough to break the dome. Prove me wrong.

Doesn't matter.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 09:39 AM
@Lady Tsunade:

His reaction time had dramatically changed, or was that CS1?
He stopped some of Chojis attacks. Right? Choji isn't that fast. So I wouldn't say that's very impressive.


Oh, now I know what you're talking aobut. She wasn't dodging them, though, she was punching them away. All she really did was punch anything with a knife, and it broke. She didn't dodge them.
Yeh, but they were coming at her from different directions, and at different times. Being able to follow Sasoris attacks patterns and avoid the damage from his attacks still counts as a good reaction feat.


Idk, I just wanted to say that. xD

So? I gave them a free wake up, that you didn't have to wait for, but I guess you're right about the brain functionality. But it's instinct to dodge or catch a punch. And who's to say that Jirobo won't throw the bomb before Sakura does? That's always a possiblity. It doesn't have to be this one sided. xD
Oh. Sorry. I didn't understand what the concept of a 'free wake up' was.
Yes it is, but not when you just wake up. Wait..does Jirobo have Sleeping bombs too? :|

So? You said that already. But Naruto's Rasengan was sucked up. But like Naruto's Rasengan, if there's an exposed part of chakra, it'll get sucked up. Which also means that she can't heal herself. Just wanted to point that out. (Or at least while she's in the dome.)
Part 1 Narutos rasengan doesn't have nearly as much physical strength as TS Sakuras punches. Which can solo giant Caterpillars. And reduce the ground to rubble. She punches the weak spot of Jirobos dome once or twice. She inflicts more damage than the Dome can repair. And she smashes it. She can find the weak spot using Hinatas Byakugan. She also has knowledge on him. So she'll know where the weak spot is herself.. Wut? Why can't she heal herself? If Naruto could use a rasengan, and Neji could use his Byakugan, and Kiba could use his Fof - while in the dome, why can't Sakura heal herself? Narutos rasengan was only sucked up when it touched the dome. Sakura won't be touching the dome with her medical chakra. So it won't be sucked up.


If he's able to dodge it, he will. And maybe he will feel up her ass! >:[ Plus, he has his own.

He has his own sleeping bombs? Strange.

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Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 09:44 AM
@Lady Tsunade:

Can we start making these shorter? xD

But he's high tier when it comes to power, no? What about that Giant Spiked Ball he made out of himself with Kunai attached to it? He was also able to stop Choji when he was on the pills. (JOke intended.) The yellow one.

Yeah, I will admit she has very good reaction time.

Yes he does. And sorry, I couldn't think of any other way to state it.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 10:03 AM
Power is one thing. But being able to land a hit with that power is another. Power, and speed are two different things. Its more likely Sakura will land a hit on him than the reverse. And regardless of sleeping bombs, Sakura should be able to jump out of the way. If he tries to throw it at her. Also, she has better reaction time, so even at close range - if they both try and draw bombs[which is unlikely]It's more likely Sakura will draw hers first.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 12:27 PM
Sakura's Punch <<<<<< Fang over Fang? Bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

How funny, you are a funny guy.

Her punch is far stronger. She makes gaint craters in the ground with her fist. Kiba's attack does crap.
Yeah just because something makes a big crater means its strong.

Cell's Solar Kamehameha after dying made a smaller crater than the Konoha crater.

Why don't you prove that Sakura's destructive power is greater than Fang over Fang instead of failing to mock my statement?

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 01:55 PM
Power is one thing. But being able to land a hit with that power is another. Power, and speed are two different things. Its more likely Sakura will land a hit on him than the reverse. And regardless of sleeping bombs, Sakura should be able to jump out of the way. If he tries to throw it at her. Also, she has better reaction time, so even at close range - if they both try and draw bombs[which is unlikely]It's more likely Sakura will draw hers first.
Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I hadda go.

Anyway, if that's the case, then I could same the same about/for Sakura. Jirobo's defenses also shot up when he goes into CS2, so I wouldn't say that it only goes one way any way you look at it.

You are right, power and speed are two different things, but you don't need speed to land a hit. You need a strategy. How do you think Choji was able to hit Jirobo? Not because he was fast, because he had thought up a way to hit him.

That's true, but what are the chances they won't be punching each other in the face? Or trying to? But at far range, it's much harder to hit a target, regardless of how slow or fast they are. Period. You don't need amazing reaction time to be able to dodge something from 40 meters away.

EDIT: +rep for a great debate.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 02:05 PM
Sorry I didn't respond sooner, I hadda go.

Anyway, if that's the case, then I could same the same about/for Sakura. Jirobo's defenses also shot up when he goes into CS2, so I wouldn't say that it only goes one way any way you look at it.
Unless Jirobo has A or Jirobo rank durability. There ain't no way hes tanking one of Sakuras punches. So no matter how high his defences. It won't matter.

You are right, power and speed are two different things, but you don't need speed to land a hit. You need a strategy. How do you think Choji was able to hit Jirobo? Not because he was fast, because he had thought up a way to hit him.
Wut? Yes you do need speed to land a hit. Also, Jirobo isn't very intelligent. Nor is Choji, he didn't plan a way to hit Jirobo , he just had to resort to his pills to kill Jirobo. Wasn't exactly complex. Speed>>>>strategy in terms of landing punches.

That's true, but what are the chances they won't be punching each other in the face? Or trying to? But at far range, it's much harder to hit a target, regardless of how slow or fast they are. Period. You don't need amazing reaction time to be able to dodge something from 40 meters away.
Because Sakura has a better chance of avoiding damage. While Jirobo is more likely to be hit. No, thats true - you don't. But obviously. The only things Jirobo can do at long range - is chuck boulders; or try and trap Sakura in his dome. Both of which she can smash with ease. They'll have to go close range to inflict any major damage.

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Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 02:17 PM
Boogle! It's so damn LONG!

Jirobo has building endurance on average, with CS2, it goes up to about Building+ - low large building. (About.) Sakura is only a Building+ buster. Hence, he is able to tank Sakura's punches. His tanking is actually higher than that by feats, but it sounds rediculous. Choji's busting level is Large Building+, likely Multi Building, and Jirobo was able to tank that. This means that Jirobo is easily able to tank Sakura's punches. In theory, anyway.

Then how do you explain Shikamaru killing Hidan? It was all strategic. He managed to kill Kakuzu (1 heart, anyway.) and Hidan due to a strategy. As a matter of fact, he didn't have to even touch him. And actually, Choji isn't very dumb either. His intelligence is at least average. His downfall is when he gets angry.

Again, I could say the same for Sakura, Sakura can't do anything at ALL to Jirobo. She can't chuck boulders. And that's not all Jirobo can do either. Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumping: Jirobo picks up a huge amount of earth and throws it at the opponent. Have you seen how massive that is? If she even attempts to break it, rocks hit her in the head, knock her out, and Jirobo kicks Sakura's face in.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 02:29 PM
Boogle! It's so damn LONG!

Jirobo has building endurance on average, with CS2, it goes up to about Building+ - low large building. (About.) Sakura is only a Building+ buster. Hence, he is able to tank Sakura's punches. His tanking is actually higher than that by feats, but it sounds rediculous. Choji's busting level is Large Building+, likely Multi Building, and Jirobo was able to tank that. This means that Jirobo is easily able to tank Sakura's punches. In theory, anyway.
He tanked Chojis punches? I remember him stopping one of Chojis punches. But I can't remember him tanking one. Give me a chapter reference.



Then how do you explain Shikamaru killing Hidan? It was all strategic. He managed to kill Kakuzu (1 heart, anyway.) and Hidan due to a strategy. As a matter of fact, he didn't have to even touch him. And actually, Choji isn't very dumb either. His intelligence is at least average. His downfall is when he gets angry.
/sigh
Trying to compare Shikamarus intelligence to Jirobos is idiotic. If you're honestly trying to insinuate that Jirobo could possibly come up with a strategy to hit Sakura with the little intelliegence he's shown. Then I suggest you go over your facts again.

Again, I could say the same for Sakura, Sakura can't do anything at ALL to Jirobo. She can't chuck boulders. And that's not all Jirobo can do either. Earth Release: Earth Mausoleum Dumping: Jirobo picks up a huge amount of earth and throws it at the opponent. Have you seen how massive that is? If she even attempts to break it, rocks hit her in the head, knock her out, and Jirobo kicks Sakura's face in.
Wut? Yes she can. Punch the ground, lift up a huge chunk of rubble. Throw. Not much to it. Yes. Its pretty big. However, you have to remember that Sakuras strength increases as she builds up chakra in her fists. In other words, the more chakra she builds up, the more strength she gains. Also, at 40m. A Base Jirobo couldn't hurl the chunk of earth that far. In CS2, that would be another story. She could possibly smash the center of it. And protect herself with her arms. She tanked an exploding tag at close range. So a few rocks shouldn't be much trouble for her.

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Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 02:39 PM
Damn, I just reread the chapter I was thinking about, and you were right. But regardless, he could just block Sakura's. Her striking power is weaker than Choji's undisputedly. (I think I spelled that right.)

I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was just proving you wrong. You said that you needed speed to attack somebody, meanwhile, Shikamaru needn't lift a finger and killed somebody.

With the size of the chunk of earth, she couldn't possibly fend off all of the rocks no matter how fast her reaction time is. One could easily hit her in the head. And the range shouldn't be a problem. Jirobo just moves in a bit. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that unless Sakura can destroy all of the rocks, there isn't a way she can come off unscathed.

Lady Tsunade
08-05-2010, 02:46 PM
Damn, I just reread the chapter I was thinking about, and you were right. But regardless, he could just block Sakura's. Her striking power is weaker than Choji's undisputedly. (I think I spelled that right.)
As I have already said, Jirobos speed and reactio time is below Sakuras. He can't block all her punches .


I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was just proving you wrong. You said that you needed speed to attack somebody, meanwhile, Shikamaru needn't lift a finger and killed somebody.
Yes but you were being so specific. Generally, you need speed to hit someone with a punch. Shikamaru is perhaps an exclusion because of his high intelligence, he can lead people into traps. But otherwise, people like A, Tsunade, SM Naruto, Gai, Lee, Sakura, Danzo, Itachi they all need speed to hit their opponent. Using traps isn't common for them.


With the size of the chunk of earth, she couldn't possibly fend off all of the rocks no matter how fast her reaction time is. One could easily hit her in the head. And the range shouldn't be a problem. Jirobo just moves in a bit. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that unless Sakura can destroy all of the rocks, there isn't a way she can come off unscathed.
She doesn't need to. She can block the rocks with her arms. And if they are bruised. She can always just heal herself. She doesn't need to touch her wounds to heal them, as she showed when Sasori stabbed her through the stomach. She definitly won't come off unscathed. But she can always just heal herself. Unless she recieves broken bones. Blunt attacks like rocks wont requite as much chakra to heal as a piercing move which attacks her internally .

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gama-sennin
08-05-2010, 02:54 PM
Sakura has shown enough intelligence to figure out sasori's puppet control mechanism. So with HINATA by her side it shouldn't be difficult to break out of the dome. Also the dome does not heal instantly it needs time and even that time varies depending on distance from Jirobo.

Sakura's punch is way more powerful than PTS Kiba's gatsunga. Even the most recent one made a hole in ground while sakura's destroys the ground in one punch.
Sakura has shown enough power to destroy hiruko in one punch. Enough power to send a large metal right through the roof. So I dont think normal mode Jirobo will survive a single punch IF she connects.

Sakura wins.

I juts posted because no one was mentioning Hinata and sakura's intelligence/power.

Shikamaru Nara
08-05-2010, 02:55 PM
So he keeps a distance and he keeps throwing land at her. She tires out quite quickly as proven when Kakashi Vs. Naruto and Sakura happened. She was breathing hard after every punch she took, and she took a little while to get her energy back. In other words, if Jirobo is able to avoid getting hit just once, Sakura is done for.

Really? You just pointed out that Sakura could throw land at Jirobo, and that doesn't require speed. There you have it.

They'll be falling from all around her, she won't be able to dodge or block the ones from behind, and even if she does, Jirobo could get under her and punch her. Plus he wouldn't just stand there and let her heal herself, he might punch her, or hurl another boulder.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 03:39 PM
Yes, yes it does. Thanks for agreeing.
I deleted your post before, so stop posting it unless its on topic. So prove me wrong or don't spam, as simple as that. `:)

On topic: Sakura needs chakra to focus her energy and with it, Kiba's fang over fang still>>> Sakura's punches. In the prison, Sakura will be left without chakra and provided she has the chakra for the attacks the dome repairs itself upon impact.

Phoenix Wright
08-05-2010, 07:08 PM
That just shows you can't handle being wrong and have to resort to deleting other people's post.


Sakura's Punch is far more powerful. Period. Kiba's Fang over Fang has not shown an level of damage near one of her punches.

Additionally as I said earlier, she can use it in the dome. Akamaru was able to transform inside the dome, so chakra is usable.

The repairing of the dome is irellevant, Sakura will smash out in one hit.

Finally she wouldn't get caught in the dome in the first place. She is too fast and her dodging and reactionary ability are very high as shown in her battle against Sasori.

No Chiyo wasn't controlling her the entire time, fact.

Yes Sasori was strong. He is constantly rated as one of the strongest members of the Akatsuki and only was defeated due to plot.

Get overyourself.
No, it just shows I don't tolerate spam, and attempting to mock me was pointless, off-topic, and gave you a pointless extra post.

And where's this proof I asked for?

Of course its usable but it sure won't be as strong especially since its absorbed over time.

Again, proof showing her attack is capable of doing so?

Too fast? Jirobo goes CS2 and he was stomping Choji, he caught The SRA members in the prison, why wouldn't he be able to catch Sakura in it too?

No, but she never showed any impressive feats until she was, fact.

You never said anything about speed, unfortunately. =/

Get over myself? This may turn into a flame war if you keep that up. `;)

Miles Edgeworth
08-05-2010, 10:10 PM
Hinata is fodder here.

As for Jirobo vs Sakura, I'm not too sure on this one. I'd lean more towards Jirobo because he had the potential to solo all of the Sasuke Retrieval Team, had Shikamaru not been there to strategize and Choji be there to break out. If absolutely nobody but Choji in the team could break out of it, and even then Choji needed to know where to attack and isn't exactly a strategist on his own, then what are the chances of Sakura breaking out? Do note that Naruto couldn't form Rasengan, and Sakura has to focus chakra into her fist to have strength. Without it, boom, gone, useless as always. She'd be drained and killed.

If she didn't get domed then she MIGHT have a chance because of likely higher speed and decent reaction feats, but it wouldn't be easy. Jirobo was able to overpower Giant Choji in CS2 so if Sakura wins then it's likely with major difficulty or by a fluke.