Hidan Vs. Kisame. Who would win?

[deidara330]

I think Hidan would win easily. One scratch and Kisame is dead.

[Vivian Nie]

Only ninja as bright as Shikamaru can win Hidan!

[RSAHinataSpringbokF1]

Only ninja as bright as Shikamaru can win Hidan!


Hidan and Kisame would end up in nolo contredre.

[nejipwns101]

Hidan because he can't die and one scrath any where on kisame and he is dead

[Kisame]

Kisame.
He just keeps attacking him withs suitons and if Hidan is close Kisame just shaves his head off rendering Hidan useless.

[Vivian Nie]

Only ninja as bright as Shikamaru can win Hidan!


Hidan and Kisame would end up in nolo contredre.

what's that?

[lj0615]

kisame would win because he would just slice his body in half off with his shark skin sword and hidan isn't that smart

[Miles Edgeworth]

Kisame would destroy.

People don't get the idea that Hidan is WEAK. Immortal? Look at the databooks. Abandon that thought.

and immortality=/=power

Kisame is much much stronger than Hidan will ever be.

I'll say it again, I laugh at those who overrate Hidan....

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

I think that Hidan would most likely win and when some people say that Kisame can slice hidan's head off or slice him in half remember when Kisame himself said that his sword is meant to shred and not to sclice so hell probable just shread up Hidan's throat or stomach but it wont have any affect plus one drop of blood from Kisame and he's dead!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Kisame]

I think that Hidan would most likely win and when some people say that Kisame can slice hidan's head off or slice him in half remember when Kisame himself said that his sword is meant to shred and not to sclice so hell probable just shread up Hidan's throat or stomach but it wont have any affect plus one drop of blood from Kisame and he's dead!!!!!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


Kisame can just shred his head off and use long-range suiton.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Hidan has a scythe and nothing else.

Kisame's got a very painful sword and water jutsu. Oh and common sense.

Kisame easily takes this.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

But a suiton may not have any damage on Hidan because if you remember when hidan and kakuzu fought the second time against team 10 Kakuzu hit Hidan with one of his jutsu on purpose and it barely phased him and that was a close range attack

[Kisame]

But a suiton may not have any damage on Hidan because if you remember when hidan and kakuzu fought the second time against team 10 Kakuzu hit Hidan with one of his jutsu on purpose and it barely phased him and that was a close range attack


Kisame just spams them until Hidan is hurt by them.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

I guess but what about if by chance Kisame did get caught in Hidan's ritual because all it takes is he smallest drop of blood how would he get out of that

[Kisame]

I guess but what about if by chance Kisame did get caught in Hidan's ritual because all it takes is he smallest drop of blood how would he get out of that


That's why he's going to attack from long-range, even in close-range his taijutsu is superior. 30% Kisame overpowered Gai who kicked a ninja through a concrete wall.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

I guess but what about if by chance Kisame did get caught in Hidan's ritual because all it takes is he smallest drop of blood how would he get out of that


That's why he's going to attack from long-range, even in close-range his taijutsu is superior. 30% Kisame overpowered Gai who kicked a ninja through a concrete wall.

You shoudn't underestimate Hidan's close range fighting remember he was the one that took on kakashi close range in volume 37 and also in shippuden episode 85

[Kisame]

I guess but what about if by chance Kisame did get caught in Hidan's ritual because all it takes is he smallest drop of blood how would he get out of that


That's why he's going to attack from long-range, even in close-range his taijutsu is superior. 30% Kisame overpowered Gai who kicked a ninja through a concrete wall.

You shoudn't underestimate Hidan's close range fighting remember he was the one that took on kakashi close range in volume 37 and also in shippuden episode 85


And who got outmnuevered by Shikamaru who's weak in close range.
Kisame overpowere Asuma with the tip of his blade, while Asuma gave Hidan a hard time.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Also, everybody seems to get the idea that Kisame will just stand there as Hidan prepares the ritual.

Kisame would go up, kick him out of the circle, and cut him to ribbons......

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

Shikamaru was in his own clans terristory so he knew it like the back of his hand so Thats why Hidan didnt do as well as shikamaru in the filed but when he was fighting kakashi both of them barely knew the land and kakashi seems stronger then shikamaru and when Hidan was fighting Asuma he was just toying with him at first he could have killed him quickly before shikamaru even figured it out, plus he was fighting asuma and shikamaru where kisame was only fighting asuma and it wasn't much of a battle

[Madara/Tobi Akatsuki]

Also, everybody seems to get the idea that Kisame will just stand there as Hidan prepares the ritual.

Kisame would go up, kick him out of the circle, and cut him to ribbons......


I agree with kisame. Kyubi-naruto, your my friend but i think your outnumbered. kisame's strength is far more supirior. I also understand strength isn't everything but i think it would go in kisame's favor.

[Kisame]

Shikamaru was in his own clans terristory so he knew it like the back of his hand so Thats why Hidan didnt do as well as shikamaru in the filed but when he was fighting kakashi both of them barely knew the land and kakashi seems stronger then shikamaru and when Hidan was fighting Asuma he was just toying with him at first he could have killed him quickly before shikamaru even figured it out, plus he was fighting asuma and shikamaru where kisame was only fighting asuma and it wasn't much of a battle

What does the territory have to do with the hand to hand fight. They only fought in a clearing inside it. Like rock lee said he won't just give Hidan time to make the circle. Kisame is faster than Hidan from manga feats and you din't counter what I said about him spamming Suitons from long-rang. He can also make a clone to fight for him at close-range.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

Also, everybody seems to get the idea that Kisame will just stand there as Hidan prepares the ritual.

Kisame would go up, kick him out of the circle, and cut him to ribbons......


I agree with kisame. Kyubi-naruto, your my friend but i think your outnumbered. kisame's strength is far more supirior. I also understand strength isn't everything but i think it would go in kisame's favor.

Lol that is true i am the only one fighting in Hidan's favor but for some reason i feel that from what we've seen Hidan is stronger but Akatsuki members are paired with teamwork so if Kisame was pared up with Itachi theres no doubt we havn't seen all his strength but i Just really like Hidan, and Deidara which usually end up loosing lol

[Kisame]

Also, everybody seems to get the idea that Kisame will just stand there as Hidan prepares the ritual.

Kisame would go up, kick him out of the circle, and cut him to ribbons......


I agree with kisame. Kyubi-naruto, your my friend but i think your outnumbered. kisame's strength is far more supirior. I also understand strength isn't everything but i think it would go in kisame's favor.

Lol that is true i am the only one fighting in Hidan's favor but for some reason i feel that from what we've seen Hidan is stronger but Akatsuki members are paired with teamwork so if Kisame was pared up with Itachi theres no doubt we havn't seen all his strength but i Just really like Hidan, and Deidara which usually end up loosing lol

So that means I win?

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

Shikamaru was in his own clans terristory so he knew it like the back of his hand so Thats why Hidan didnt do as well as shikamaru in the filed but when he was fighting kakashi both of them barely knew the land and kakashi seems stronger then shikamaru and when Hidan was fighting Asuma he was just toying with him at first he could have killed him quickly before shikamaru even figured it out, plus he was fighting asuma and shikamaru where kisame was only fighting asuma and it wasn't much of a battle

What does the territory have to do with the hand to hand fight. They only fought in a clearing inside it. Like rock lee said he won't just give Hidan time to make the circle. Kisame is faster than Hidan from manga feats and you din't counter what I said about him spamming Suitons from long-rang. He can also make a clone to fight for him at close-range.

Well when i was talking about the territory its just that Shikamaru also set up all the bombs so the knoledge of the are didn't give Hidan much space to fight and Shikamaru already had him trapped so it wasn't a fair place for Hidan to fight.

[Kisame]

Shikamaru was in his own clans terristory so he knew it like the back of his hand so Thats why Hidan didnt do as well as shikamaru in the filed but when he was fighting kakashi both of them barely knew the land and kakashi seems stronger then shikamaru and when Hidan was fighting Asuma he was just toying with him at first he could have killed him quickly before shikamaru even figured it out, plus he was fighting asuma and shikamaru where kisame was only fighting asuma and it wasn't much of a battle

What does the territory have to do with the hand to hand fight. They only fought in a clearing inside it. Like rock lee said he won't just give Hidan time to make the circle. Kisame is faster than Hidan from manga feats and you din't counter what I said about him spamming Suitons from long-rang. He can also make a clone to fight for him at close-range.

Well when i was talking about the territory its just that Shikamaru also set up all the bombs so the knoledge of the are didn't give Hidan much space to fight and Shikamaru already had him trapped so it wasn't a fair place for Hidan to fight.


What about my long-range suiton and clone argument? You haven't counterd those.

[Luna Kobentori]

Kisame, by a landslide.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

Well for my suiton argument im gonna stick with what i said about him not caring about his injuries and honestly yes Kisame is incredibly strong but i think it would be exaggerating saying Kisame would just hit hit and keep hitting him because i thinks its resonable if Hidan can dodge it. And for the clone lets not forget about Hidan's scythe because one scratch and that clone turns right back into water

[Kisame]

Well for my suiton argument im gonna stick with what i said about him not caring about his injuries and honestly yes Kisame is incredibly strong but i think it would be exaggerating saying Kisame would just hit hit and keep hitting him because i thinks its resonable if Hidan can dodge it. And for the clone lets not forget about Hidan's scythe because one scratch and that clone turns right back into water


Kisame can just spam the suitons and Kisame can make a bunch of clones which will ovherwelm Hidan. It's not like Kisame is going to give him time to do the ritual. Kisame is faster and stronger and has way more stamina.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Hidan, by a landslide.

fail, Fail, FAIL!!!!!!!

Hidan is WEAK! What don't you people get about that?!

[Keira-chan]

Kisame all the way!!!!!!!!!

[deidara330]

Hidan, by a landslide.

fail, Fail, FAIL!!!!!!!

Hidan is WEAK! What don't you people get about that?!

He doesn't need to be strong . Hidan just needs some of Kisame's blood to beat him.

[Miles Edgeworth]

He doesn't need to be strong . Hidan just needs some of Kisame's blood to beat him.

Because he can totally reach someone who can use long-range water jutsu....>_>

[Suko]

Shikamaru was in his own clans terristory so he knew it like the back of his hand so Thats why Hidan didnt do as well as shikamaru in the filed but when he was fighting kakashi both of them barely knew the land and kakashi seems stronger then shikamaru and when Hidan was fighting Asuma he was just toying with him at first he could have killed him quickly before shikamaru even figured it out, plus he was fighting asuma and shikamaru where kisame was only fighting asuma and it wasn't much of a battle

What does the territory have to do with the hand to hand fight. They only fought in a clearing inside it. Like rock lee said he won't just give Hidan time to make the circle. Kisame is faster than Hidan from manga feats and you din't counter what I said about him spamming Suitons from long-rang. He can also make a clone to fight for him at close-range.

Hidan wouldnt just stand ther and let the suitons kill him. . Kisame is obviously stronger than Hidan.
Also, the Shikimaru and Hidan thing. The territory does matter. Hidan would hav had no idea wat lived in the forest. Hidan is the weakest member of the Akutsuki, but he's not weak. Remember the Akutsuki is made almost entirely made up of S-rank criminals. U think Hidan wouldn't be one of the S-rank criminals? Remember the Fire-Temple? Sure, he had help from Kakuzu, but whose religion believes in mass murder? Kisame is more likely 2 win though. Don't be calling Hidan weak because he lost 2 Shikimaru. Don't forget that Shikimaru has outstanding strategic skill. But Kisame long ranged water style attacks would win the battle. I put in all of that stuff about Hidan cuz just because he's the weakest member of the Akutsuki, doesn't mean he is weak.

P.S. If u try quoting this, u might hav some trouble typing. At some point of time wen ever I moved the mouse from the type box, it would randomly scroll all the way 2 the top.

[Itachi_ rox]

Hidan almost certainly Kisame probably wouldn't have any thing set up so Hidan would pwn him :D

[Kisame]

Hidan almost certainly Kisame probably wouldn't have any thing set up so Hidan would pwn him :D


How will Hidan deal with long-range suiton, Mizu bushin, Kisame's superior strenght, speed, and Intellegence.

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

Hidan almost certainly Kisame probably wouldn't have any thing set up so Hidan would pwn him :D


How will Hidan deal with long-range suiton, Mizu bushin, Kisame's superior strenght, speed, and Intellegence.

But i think you should remember when Kisame was fighting Asume asuma easily cut kisame on his face and who was the one that killed asuma, thats right Hidan and if hidan was fast enough to cut asuma and asuma was fast enough to cut kisame then there is no proof that kisame is faster and if HIdan were to get a drop of blood just like he did to asuma he would be finished. Plus HIdan was able to keep up with Kakashi's speed who is one of the fastest ninja in naruto

[Kisame]

Hidan almost certainly Kisame probably wouldn't have any thing set up so Hidan would pwn him :D


How will Hidan deal with long-range suiton, Mizu bushin, Kisame's superior strenght, speed, and Intellegence.

But i think you should remember when Kisame was fighting Asume asuma easily cut kisame on his face and who was the one that killed asuma, thats right Hidan and if hidan was fast enough to cut asuma and asuma was fast enough to cut kisame then there is no proof that kisame is faster and if HIdan were to get a drop of blood just like he did to asuma he would be finished. Plus HIdan was able to keep up with Kakashi's speed who is one of the fastest ninja in naruto



He was cut because he wasn't expecting the wind chakra. Kisame would just send clones to fight for him at close range while he just spams suiton from long range. How come Shikamaru, who has no impressive speed feats, dodged Hidan's attacks.

Kisame is fast enough to handle him, Hidan himself admitted he was the slowest in Akatsuki.

Do you really think Hidan could win or are you just being biased because he's one of your favorite characters?

[Naruto-Kyuubi]

But i think you should remember when Kisame was fighting Asume asuma easily cut kisame on his face and who was the one that killed asuma, thats right Hidan and if hidan was fast enough to cut asuma and asuma was fast enough to cut kisame then there is no proof that kisame is faster and if HIdan were to get a drop of blood just like he did to asuma he would be finished. Plus HIdan was able to keep up with Kakashi's speed who is one of the fastest ninja in naruto[/quote]



He was cut because he wasn't expecting the wind chakra. Kisame would just send clones to fight for him at close range while he just spams suiton from long range. How come Shikamaru, who has no impressive speed feats, dodged Hidan's attacks.

Kisame is fast enough to handle him, Hidan himself admitted he was the slowest in Akatsuki.

Do you really think Hidan could win or are you just being biased because he's one of your favorite characters?[/quote]

I have to dissagree with you that shikamaru has never had any impressive speed. If you remember when shikamaru was fighting Tayuya he was able to dodge the ogre's attacks almost flalessly and they were not moving at a slow speed they were actually very fast. I partially believe that Hidan could win because even Kakuzu one of the strongest akatsuki members said not to underestimate Hidan. But what im saying is that Shikamaru is not slow so it was completely normal for him to dodge 1 of Hidan's attacks

[Kisame]

What about him sending a bunch of clones to deal with Hidan close-range and him being far away spamming suiton. Kisame is also faster than Hidan, he kept up with Gai who's faster than Kakashi and Hidan admitted he was the slowest of Akatsuki. If one of his clones manage to cut off Hidan's head it's over for Hidan. Kisame can just flood the area their fighting giving him the advantage and can send his water sharks to attck Hidan or trap him in a water sphere like Team Guy.

[dawgx]

hidan would easiy win :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: oh ya

[Kisame]

hidan would easiy win :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: oh ya


Kisame can send clones to attack from close range and overwhelm him and the real one can attack with suiton from far away. Kisame also has better chakra, speed, and strenght than Hidan. He will also use his superior speed to stop Hidan from forming the ritual if he gets his blood.

[Miles Edgeworth]

People don't seem to realize that Kakuzu isn't there to patch Hidan's head back up.......>_>

[Kisame]

People don't seem to realize that Kakuzu isn't there to patch Hidan's head back up.......>_>


Yeah, this is more like a popularity contest.

[Miles Edgeworth]

It is.

I like Kisame more than Hidan, but I've given enough clear points to back up my opinion, unlike most of the Hidan supporters.....

[Luna Kobentori]

hidan, by a landslide.

fail, fail, fail!!!!!!!

Hidan is weak! What don't you people get about that?!

i didn't say hidan :!:

[Miles Edgeworth]

I DIDN'T SAY HIDAN :!:

You changed it >_>

[TentenForever-Wrath]

Kisame's has loads of chakra maybe even rivaling Naruto! He could kill Hidan easily And since Hidan is immortal he would actually just ripp him to pieces

[deidara330]

I think Kisame would win because he can rip Hidan to shreds and attack with water style jutsu and kill Hidan.

[Kisame]

I think Kisame would win because he can rip Hidan to shreds and attack with water style jutsu and kill Hidan.

Your first post has a different opinion.

[deidara330]

I think Kisame would win because he can rip Hidan to shreds and attack with water style jutsu and kill Hidan.

Your first post has a different opinion.

I am entitled to change my opinion, even though its just because everyone says Kisame would win. Its my opinion.

[Naruto]

Kisame

[seannfma]

Kisame chops head off boom no more hidan

[Soccer Ninja 21]

hidan, one drop of blood and...no more kisame. :cry:

[seannfma]

hidan, one drop of blood and...no more kisame. :cry:
how would he get the blood

[Kisame]

hidan, one drop of blood and...no more kisame. :cry:


Kisame uses suitons from a distance and it's not like he's going to give Hidan time to do the ritiual.

[Soccer Ninja 21]

hmm... good point but hidans sycthe has range and hidan could speed his ritual up and cut down on the battle repartee.

[Kisame]

hmm... good point but hidans sycthe has range and hidan could speed his ritual up and cut down on the battle repartee.


It's not long-range it's more like mid-range, Kisame can attack far enough awy, he can send some clones to ovherwhelm Hidan from close range.

[Soccer Ninja 21]

but what if kakazu was there? the cover each other'sweaknesses. gtg

[Kisame]

but what if kakazu was there? the cover each other'sweaknesses. gtg


Hidan vs. Kisame not Kakuzu and Hidan vs. Kisame.

[ultimate#1naruto3]

i think Hidan would win

[Kisame]

i think Hidan would win


How would he win, he's completely outclassed?

[Soccer Ninja 21]

Upsets happen, but yes know tha tI think of it, HIdan is outclassed. Congrats you manged to sway me to your side. :)

[Kisame]

Upsets happen, but yes know tha tI think of it, HIdan is outclassed. Congrats you manged to sway me to your side. :)


Wow, someone was actually swayed, awesome.

[Soccer Ninja 21]

I know and it takes a lot too sway me... 8-) You should be a lawyer or sumthing.

[seannfma]

Upsets happen, but yes know tha tI think of it, HIdan is outclassed. Congrats you manged to sway me to your side. :)


Wow, someone was actually swayed, awesome.
i swayed

[Kisame]

Upsets happen, but yes know tha tI think of it, HIdan is outclassed. Congrats you manged to sway me to your side. :)


Wow, someone was actually swayed, awesome.
i swayed


What do you mean, I was the one debating.

[deidara330]

I was also swayed.

[Soccer Ninja 21]

I think he just wants to get into the convosetion.

[ByakuKage]

It depends on who hits first. If Hidan hits first, it's over for Kisame, because of the Curse Jutsu.
If Kisame hits first, then Hidan won't be able to hit back

[Kisame]

It depends on who hits first. If Hidan hits first, it's over for Kisame, because of the Curse Jutsu.
If Kisame hits first, then Hidan won't be able to hit back


Even if Hidan hits Kisame won't just sit back and watch Hidan form the ritual.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Kisame easily outclasses Hidan.

And Kisame here sways lots of people, even me............he's better than me at debating, possibly the best here xD

[deidara330]

Kisame is just that good.In fact, I think I'll start a Kisame appreciation topic in Off-Topic. Do you think people would go there?

[Kisame]

Kisame easily outclasses Hidan.

And Kisame here sways lots of people, even me............he's better than me at debating, possibly the best here xD


I'm not that good, you're still better at this.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I'm not that good, you're still better at this.

I'm almost sure that you've swayed my opinion loads more than I've swayed yours though.

[Kisame]

I'm not that good, you're still better at this.

I'm almost sure that you've swayed my opinion loads more than I've swayed yours though.


I have, but our Neji vs. Lee debate ended in a stalemate.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I have, but our Neji vs. Lee debate ended in a stalemate.

Yeah, that was probably my best debate with anybody in a long time xD

It was pretty fun.

[deidara330]

Kisame is just that good.In fact, I think I'll start a Kisame appreciation topic in Off-Topic. Do you think people would go there?
Please comment on my post.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Kisame is just that good.In fact, I think I'll start a Kisame appreciation topic in Off-Topic. Do you think people would go there?
Please comment on my post.

I certainly would ;)

[Kisame]

Kisame is just that good.In fact, I think I'll start a Kisame appreciation topic in Off-Topic. Do you think people would go there?
Please comment on my post.


Sorry, didn't see you edited it.

Well Tomarnk already made one sort of, and I'm not sure people would come.

[Soccer Ninja 21]

I doubt they would ever battle though, unless there is some upset of power among the Akatsuki... :)

[deidara330]

Kisame is just that good.In fact, I think I'll start a Kisame appreciation topic in Off-Topic. Do you think people would go there?
Please comment on my post.


Sorry, didn't see you edited it.

Well Tomarnk already made one sort of, and I'm not sure people would come.

Oh, I forgot about that. But I already made it, so oh well.

[Sage Of Six Paths]

Kisame has better swordsmanship and he is much stronger

in terms of pure strength. So Kisame would be able

to pull off the win. Not a scratch on him!

Hidan may be immortal, but his

body isn't invulnerable

to attack. (ie:

Sharkskin)

Plus...

Hidan is a sped!!!!

[deidara330]

I believe Kisame would win, hmmm?

[TheViolletteHeart]

Kisame with his abundance of chakra and more experience than Hidan. Immortality means nothing.

Kisame may look like a shark, but he's no fish-brain.

[Hidara21]

You guys say that Kisame isn't gonna just sit there and watch, but it seems like that's what you think Hidan is going to do.

Sure Kisame has water clones but look at how Naruto and Kakashi's clones get killed off so fast. Hidan can handle them.

Kisame isn't even all that fast he just blocks with his sword he never dodges. He didn't say he was the slowest member he said slowest hitter because he uses the curse. I guess you guys haven't seen him fight Kakashi because if you did I'm sure you would realize that he isn't slow and he was doing all of that without the help of the rope.

It's kind of annoying how you say he will just get his head chopped off. Kisame can get his head chopped off just as easily.

About the long range jutsu that water will NOT do much damage to someone like Hidan. It even says Hidan has better ninjutsu than Kisame does. Again we haven't seen Hidan's full potential. Remember when even Kakuzu said "I can't kill Hidan." So if Kakuzu couldn't do it then how can Kisame?

[Kisame]

You guys say that Kisame isn't gonna just sit there and watch, but it seems like that's what you think Hidan is going to do.

Sure Kisame has water clones but look at how Naruto and Kakashi's clones get killed off so fast. Hidan can handle them.

Kisame isn't even all that fast he just blocks with his sword he never dodges. He didn't say he was the slowest member he said slowest hitter because he uses the curse. I guess you guys haven't seen him fight Kakashi because if you did I'm sure you would realize that he isn't slow and he was doing all of that without the help of the rope.

It's kind of annoying how you say he will just get his head chopped off. Kisame can get his head chopped off just as easily.

About the long range jutsu that water will NOT do much damage to someone like Hidan. It even says Hidan has better ninjutsu than Kisame does. Again we haven't seen Hidan's full potential. Remember when even Kakuzu said "I can't kill Hidan." So if Kakuzu couldn't do it then how can Kisame?


Kakuzu couldn't do it because Hidan couldn't die because of his immortality, Kakuzu stomps Hidan.

Hidan isn't even that fast a chunin with no speed feats evaded him and Kisame kept up with Gai who is know for speed.

Kisame attcks with a distance with suiton, and even if Hidan gets blood, the field will be too wet to draw blood.

Kisame's clones gave Neji, Lee, and Tenten trouble and they were from a 30% clone.

[Hidara21]

You guys say that Kisame isn't gonna just sit there and watch, but it seems like that's what you think Hidan is going to do.

Sure Kisame has water clones but look at how Naruto and Kakashi's clones get killed off so fast. Hidan can handle them.

Kisame isn't even all that fast he just blocks with his sword he never dodges. He didn't say he was the slowest member he said slowest hitter because he uses the curse. I guess you guys haven't seen him fight Kakashi because if you did I'm sure you would realize that he isn't slow and he was doing all of that without the help of the rope.

It's kind of annoying how you say he will just get his head chopped off. Kisame can get his head chopped off just as easily.

About the long range jutsu that water will NOT do much damage to someone like Hidan. It even says Hidan has better ninjutsu than Kisame does. Again we haven't seen Hidan's full potential. Remember when even Kakuzu said "I can't kill Hidan." So if Kakuzu couldn't do it then how can Kisame?


Kakuzu couldn't do it because Hidan couldn't die because of his immortality, Kakuzu stomps Hidan.

Hidan isn't even that fast a chunin with no speed feats evaded him and Kisame kept up with Gai who is know for speed.

Kisame attcks with a distance with suiton, and even if Hidan gets blood, the field will be too wet to draw blood.

Kisame's clones gave Neji, Lee, and Tenten trouble and they were from a 30% clone.

Kakuzu can't kill him because even Kakuzu isn't smart enough to plan like Shikamaru did.

Dodging one attack isn't all that special. Hidan got Asuma while dodging Asuma's attacks AND Shikamaru's Shadow sowing. So he IS fast.

That's why you draw the blood and then try to escape and do the ritual after licking the blood. If that's not an option wait until you CAN use it.

Kisame only used them so they could block there attacks from behind then used his jutsu when they weren't expecting it.

[Kisame]

You guys say that Kisame isn't gonna just sit there and watch, but it seems like that's what you think Hidan is going to do.

Sure Kisame has water clones but look at how Naruto and Kakashi's clones get killed off so fast. Hidan can handle them.

Kisame isn't even all that fast he just blocks with his sword he never dodges. He didn't say he was the slowest member he said slowest hitter because he uses the curse. I guess you guys haven't seen him fight Kakashi because if you did I'm sure you would realize that he isn't slow and he was doing all of that without the help of the rope.

It's kind of annoying how you say he will just get his head chopped off. Kisame can get his head chopped off just as easily.

About the long range jutsu that water will NOT do much damage to someone like Hidan. It even says Hidan has better ninjutsu than Kisame does. Again we haven't seen Hidan's full potential. Remember when even Kakuzu said "I can't kill Hidan." So if Kakuzu couldn't do it then how can Kisame?


Kakuzu couldn't do it because Hidan couldn't die because of his immortality, Kakuzu stomps Hidan.

Hidan isn't even that fast a chunin with no speed feats evaded him and Kisame kept up with Gai who is know for speed.

Kisame attcks with a distance with suiton, and even if Hidan gets blood, the field will be too wet to draw blood.

Kisame's clones gave Neji, Lee, and Tenten trouble and they were from a 30% clone.

Kakuzu can't kill him because even Kakuzu isn't smart enough to plan like Shikamaru did.

Dodging one attack isn't all that special. Hidan got Asume while dodging Asuma's attacks AND Shikamaru's Shadow sowing. So he IS fast.

That's why you draw the blood and then try to escape and do the ritual after licking the blood. If that's not an option wait until you CAN use it.

Kisame only used them so they could block there attacks from behind then used his jutsu when they weren't expecting it.


Kakuzu stomps Hidan, you don't need a smart plan to beat him. In the first fight he wouldn't have been able to continue fighting if Kakuzu didn't reattach his head. He lost without Kakuzu.

He still isn't fast enough to to hit a chuuni with no special speed. We don't even know how fast the shadows were going, for all we know any ordinary jonin could have done it.

How's he going to draw the circle if the location is flooded? It will just wash away and Kisame can attack from long-range and Hidan can't get anywhere near. To fight in close range Kisame sends a bunch of water clones to overwhelm him.


Kisame's clones still was fast enough to catch them by surprise and if he had more they could have beaten Neji, Lee, and Tenten.

[Chidori Shuriken]

Kisame STOMPS!

[Hidara21]

You kind of DO need a plan to beat him. If Shikamaru didn't come up with that strategy then HIdan wouldn't have gotten his head chopped off. Also if Hidan didn't want to make Asuma suffer he could have killed him right away by stabbing his heart and then Shikamaru, Izumo, and Kotetsu would have been screwed. Then all the planning Shikamaru had to do. You need a good plan or a chance to get his head. But you people act like that happens to Hidan all the time when it only happened once and almost twice.

Well if you hadn't noticed Sasori couldn't hit Sakura when Chiyo wasn't helping her. Tayuya couldn't hit Shikamaru either. Just because they are chuunin doesn't mean they can't dodge. I'm pretty sure shikamaru is faster than Sakura so if she can dodge stuff so can he.

There were rocks for Team Guy to stand on so Hidan can stand on the rocks. Or he can still try to escape and curse him.

Neji and Lee beat all three of those clones so if they can beat three then both of them plus Tenten could beat more. Since they are water and not shadow clones they aren't solid meaning that the clones can't block with the samehada.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Kisame STOMPS!

I think you mean ROFL stomp xD

[Kisame]

You kind of DO need a plan to beat him. If Shikamaru didn't come up with that strategy then HIdan wouldn't have gotten his head chopped off. Also if Hidan didn't want to make Asuma suffer he could have killed him right away by stabbing his heart and then Shikamaru, Izumo, and Kotetsu would have been screwed. Then all the planning Shikamaru had to do. You need a good plan or a chance to get his head. But you people act like that happens to Hidan all the time when it only happened once and almost twice.

Well if you hadn't noticed Sasori couldn't hit Sakura when Chiyo wasn't helping her. Tayuya couldn't hit Shikamaru either. Just because they are chuunin doesn't mean they can't dodge. I'm pretty sure shikamaru is faster than Sakura so if she can dodge stuff so can he.

There were rocks for Team Guy to stand on so Hidan can stand on the rocks. Or he can still try to escape and curse him.

Neji and Lee beat all three of those clones so if they can beat three then both of them plus Tenten could beat more. Since they are water and not shadow clones they aren't solid meaning that the clones can't block with the samehada.


You don't need aplan to win. The top tier could kil him effortlessly. People like Pain, Madara, Killerbee, and SM Naruto could easily beat him without a plan.

Sakura is faster than Shikamaru, Shikamaru hasn't shown any feats while Sakura has and even if Hidan is somewhat fast, Kisame is faster. He kept up with Gai who is a speacilist in Taijustsu and faster than Hidan.

Even if Hidan gets blood he can't draw the ritual if the area is flooded with water. It will wash away and while he's trying to do it Kisame can attack him.

[Hidara21]

You kind of DO need a plan to beat him. If Shikamaru didn't come up with that strategy then HIdan wouldn't have gotten his head chopped off. Also if Hidan didn't want to make Asuma suffer he could have killed him right away by stabbing his heart and then Shikamaru, Izumo, and Kotetsu would have been screwed. Then all the planning Shikamaru had to do. You need a good plan or a chance to get his head. But you people act like that happens to Hidan all the time when it only happened once and almost twice.

Well if you hadn't noticed Sasori couldn't hit Sakura when Chiyo wasn't helping her. Tayuya couldn't hit Shikamaru either. Just because they are chuunin doesn't mean they can't dodge. I'm pretty sure shikamaru is faster than Sakura so if she can dodge stuff so can he.

There were rocks for Team Guy to stand on so Hidan can stand on the rocks. Or he can still try to escape and curse him.

Neji and Lee beat all three of those clones so if they can beat three then both of them plus Tenten could beat more. Since they are water and not shadow clones they aren't solid meaning that the clones can't block with the samehada.


You don't need aplan to win. The top tier could kil him effortlessly. People like Pain, Madara, Killerbee, and SM Naruto could easily beat him without a plan.

Sakura is faster than Shikamaru, Shikamaru hasn't shown any feats while Sakura has and even if Hidan is somewhat fast, Kisame is faster. He kept up with Gai who is a speacilist in Taijustsu and faster than Hidan.

Even if Hidan gets blood he can't draw the ritual if the area is flooded with water. It will wash away and while he's trying to do it Kisame can attack him.

See now I do believe those people can kill Hidan. There is no doubt in my mind that they can. But a plan is always very helpful.

Shikamaru is definitely fast. Even back in the chuunin exam Temari said that Shikamaru was fast on his feet. He was even dodging Tayuya almost perfectly. So you can't say that he isn't fast. Besides he dodged Kakuzu's attack so does that mean that Kakuzu is slow?

Thats why I'm saying that he could escape and then do the ritual. Or find a rock like Team Guy. The second he finishes drawing the ritual sign Kisame would be finished. There wouldn't be anytime for Kisame to do anything. Sure Kisame would try to stop him but since Hidan is pretty quick at drawing the symbol the second Kisame hits him he's doomed.

[Kisame]

You kind of DO need a plan to beat him. If Shikamaru didn't come up with that strategy then HIdan wouldn't have gotten his head chopped off. Also if Hidan didn't want to make Asuma suffer he could have killed him right away by stabbing his heart and then Shikamaru, Izumo, and Kotetsu would have been screwed. Then all the planning Shikamaru had to do. You need a good plan or a chance to get his head. But you people act like that happens to Hidan all the time when it only happened once and almost twice.

Well if you hadn't noticed Sasori couldn't hit Sakura when Chiyo wasn't helping her. Tayuya couldn't hit Shikamaru either. Just because they are chuunin doesn't mean they can't dodge. I'm pretty sure shikamaru is faster than Sakura so if she can dodge stuff so can he.

There were rocks for Team Guy to stand on so Hidan can stand on the rocks. Or he can still try to escape and curse him.

Neji and Lee beat all three of those clones so if they can beat three then both of them plus Tenten could beat more. Since they are water and not shadow clones they aren't solid meaning that the clones can't block with the samehada.


You don't need aplan to win. The top tier could kil him effortlessly. People like Pain, Madara, Killerbee, and SM Naruto could easily beat him without a plan.

Sakura is faster than Shikamaru, Shikamaru hasn't shown any feats while Sakura has and even if Hidan is somewhat fast, Kisame is faster. He kept up with Gai who is a speacilist in Taijustsu and faster than Hidan.

Even if Hidan gets blood he can't draw the ritual if the area is flooded with water. It will wash away and while he's trying to do it Kisame can attack him.

See now I do believe those people can kill Hidan. There is no doubt in my mind that they can. But a plan is always very helpful.

Shikamaru is definitely fast. Even back in the chuunin exam Temari said that Shikamaru was fast on his feet. He was even dodging Tayuya almost perfectly. So you can't say that he isn't fast. Besides he dodged Kakuzu's attack so does that mean that Kakuzu is slow?

Thats why I'm saying that he could escape and then do the ritual. Or find a rock like Team Guy. The second he finishes drawing the ritual sign Kisame would be finished. There wouldn't be anytime for Kisame to do anything. Sure Kisame would try to stop him but since Hidan is pretty quick at drawing the symbol the second Kisame hits him he's doomed.


Shikamaru isn't that fast, even the databook states him to have a 2.5 in speed, that's not to fast.

Kisame flooded the whole thing, if there are no rocks Hidan can't do it and if the rocks are crooked he can't draw it right. While he's headng for a rock, Kisame can catch up to him or send his sharks after him which if the rocka sre not close enough would reach him.

[Hidara21]

Well he is still a good dodger you have to admit if he can dodge 3 of Tayuya's monsters at once, Kakuzu himself, Kakuzu's lightning heart, and Hidan one time.

If that's the case then Hidan can just kill him like any other ninja would. A stab to a vital organ will do it. Just because we never saw Hidan kill like that doesn't mean he can't. Every ninja can including Hidan. He is no different (well he's different but you know what I mean haha).

See I'm not saying that Kisame would lose and Hidan would win. I'm saying that they are evenly matched and it would be a good fight. I mean I'm leaning towards Hidan but the match could go either way and nothing would surprise me. I just get annoyed how people say Hidan doesn't stand a chance when he stands a good chance.

[Kisame]

Well he is still a good dodger you have to admit if he can dodge 3 of Tayuya's monsters at once, Kakuzu himself, Kakuzu's lightning heart, and Hidan one time.

If that's the case then Hidan can just kill him like any other ninja would. A stab to a vital organ will do it. Just because we never saw Hidan kill like that doesn't mean he can't. Every ninja can including Hidan. He is no different (well he's different but you know what I mean haha).

See I'm not saying that Kisame would lose and Hidan would win. I'm saying that they are evenly matched and it would be a good fight. I mean I'm leaning towards Hidan but the match could go either way and nothing would surprise me. I just get annoyed how people say Hidan doesn't stand a chance when he stands a good chance.

I hate relying on databooks, but even they even agree with me on Kisame being faster than Hidan, and your previous argument consisted of Hidan doing it on rocks, but waht if the location didn't have rocks?

[Hidara21]

Well he is still a good dodger you have to admit if he can dodge 3 of Tayuya's monsters at once, Kakuzu himself, Kakuzu's lightning heart, and Hidan one time.

If that's the case then Hidan can just kill him like any other ninja would. A stab to a vital organ will do it. Just because we never saw Hidan kill like that doesn't mean he can't. Every ninja can including Hidan. He is no different (well he's different but you know what I mean haha).

See I'm not saying that Kisame would lose and Hidan would win. I'm saying that they are evenly matched and it would be a good fight. I mean I'm leaning towards Hidan but the match could go either way and nothing would surprise me. I just get annoyed how people say Hidan doesn't stand a chance when he stands a good chance.

I hate relying on databooks, but even they even agree with me on Kisame being faster than Hidan, and your previous argument consisted of Hidan doing it on rocks, but waht if the location didn't have rocks?

Then he fights without you the curse. Every other ninja kills without using a curse. Or he can somehow manage to get away then curse. Anything seems possible in the naruto world, I mean they made Kisame a shark and Zetsu a plant. That's pretty bizarre.

[Yajyuu Mikazuki]

You kind of DO need a plan to beat him. If Shikamaru didn't come up with that strategy then HIdan wouldn't have gotten his head chopped off. Also if Hidan didn't want to make Asuma suffer he could have killed him right away by stabbing his heart and then Shikamaru, Izumo, and Kotetsu would have been screwed. Then all the planning Shikamaru had to do. You need a good plan or a chance to get his head. But you people act like that happens to Hidan all the time when it only happened once and almost twice.

Well if you hadn't noticed Sasori couldn't hit Sakura when Chiyo wasn't helping her. Tayuya couldn't hit Shikamaru either. Just because they are chuunin doesn't mean they can't dodge. I'm pretty sure shikamaru is faster than Sakura so if she can dodge stuff so can he.

There were rocks for Team Guy to stand on so Hidan can stand on the rocks. Or he can still try to escape and curse him.

Neji and Lee beat all three of those clones so if they can beat three then both of them plus Tenten could beat more. Since they are water and not shadow clones they aren't solid meaning that the clones can't block with the samehada.


You don't need aplan to win. The top tier could kil him effortlessly. People like Pain, Madara, Killerbee, and SM Naruto could easily beat him without a plan.

Sakura is faster than Shikamaru, Shikamaru hasn't shown any feats while Sakura has and even if Hidan is somewhat fast, Kisame is faster. He kept up with Gai who is a speacilist in Taijustsu and faster than Hidan.

Even if Hidan gets blood he can't draw the ritual if the area is flooded with water. It will wash away and while he's trying to do it Kisame can attack him.


That was awesome and true i agree

[Kisame]

Well he is still a good dodger you have to admit if he can dodge 3 of Tayuya's monsters at once, Kakuzu himself, Kakuzu's lightning heart, and Hidan one time.

If that's the case then Hidan can just kill him like any other ninja would. A stab to a vital organ will do it. Just because we never saw Hidan kill like that doesn't mean he can't. Every ninja can including Hidan. He is no different (well he's different but you know what I mean haha).

See I'm not saying that Kisame would lose and Hidan would win. I'm saying that they are evenly matched and it would be a good fight. I mean I'm leaning towards Hidan but the match could go either way and nothing would surprise me. I just get annoyed how people say Hidan doesn't stand a chance when he stands a good chance.

I hate relying on databooks, but even they even agree with me on Kisame being faster than Hidan, and your previous argument consisted of Hidan doing it on rocks, but waht if the location didn't have rocks?

Then he fights without you the curse. Every other ninja kills without using a curse. Or he can somehow manage to get away then curse. Anything seems possible in the naruto world, I mean they made Kisame a shark and Zetsu a plant. That's pretty bizarre.


How can he kill Kisame without the curse, that's the only notable technique in his arsenal and in close range Kisame has he upperhand due to being faster, stronger, and having more experience.

Actually it's not that weird, kishi originally planned for all akatsuki to be monsters.

[Hidara21]

Well we haven't really seen what Hidan can do and he has better ninjutsu so he obviously has more up his sleeve unless it's just the curse mark but he HAS to know more. Also if he uses both the scythe and the sword he could possibly pull of a few nice hits.

Wow really? I didn't know that. Hidan is the grim reaper right?

[Kisame]

Well we haven't really seen what Hidan can do and he has better ninjutsu so he obviously has more up his sleeve unless it's just the curse mark but he HAS to know more. Also if he uses both the scythe and the sword he could possibly pull of a few nice hits.

Wow really? I didn't know that. Hidan is the grim reaper right?


Hidan could get in some hits, but Kisame would still be able to win. Speculating for attacks Hidan didn't use will be useless we can onlt debate with the information we have.

Yeah, he said that in one of his interviews.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Well we haven't really seen what Hidan can do and he has better ninjutsu so he obviously has more up his sleeve unless it's just the curse mark but he HAS to know more. Also if he uses both the scythe and the sword he could possibly pull of a few nice hits.

Wow really? I didn't know that. Hidan is the grim reaper right?

We've hardly seen what KISAME can do and KISAME has better ninjutsu, so he obviously has more up his sleeve. When he faced Gai and forced him to the 6th Gate, it was 30%, so if anything, we haven't seen much of Kisame at all.

Even with the scythe and sword, Kisame could take the hit and then slice Hidan.

Better ninjutsu? Are you kidding me? Kisame's shown 30% of his arsenal, which is already more ninjutsu than Hidan, and you're telling me that Hidan has BETTER NINJUTSU?! I sense fanboy bias.......

[Hidara21]

Well we haven't really seen what Hidan can do and he has better ninjutsu so he obviously has more up his sleeve unless it's just the curse mark but he HAS to know more. Also if he uses both the scythe and the sword he could possibly pull of a few nice hits.

Wow really? I didn't know that. Hidan is the grim reaper right?

We've hardly seen what KISAME can do and KISAME has better ninjutsu, so he obviously has more up his sleeve. When he faced Gai and forced him to the 6th Gate, it was 30%, so if anything, we haven't seen much of Kisame at all.

Even with the scythe and sword, Kisame could take the hit and then slice Hidan.

Better ninjutsu? Are you kidding me? Kisame's shown 30% of his arsenal, which is already more ninjutsu than Hidan, and you're telling me that Hidan has BETTER NINJUTSU?! I sense fanboy bias.......

Uhh thats what the data book says. Kisame nin 4.5 and Hidan 5. We also hardly saw what Hidan can do too

[Miles Edgeworth]

Uhh thats what the data book says. Kisame nin 4.5 and Hidan 5. We also hardly saw what Hidan can do too

Proof? And lol "hardly saw what Hidan can do too." What did you expect to see? Matrix powers?

[Kisame]

Guys we are debating with the information we know not speculations.

[Hidara21]

Uhh thats what the data book says. Kisame nin 4.5 and Hidan 5. We also hardly saw what Hidan can do too

Proof? And lol "hardly saw what Hidan can do too." What did you expect to see? Matrix powers?

Check out the Data Book. We did hardly see. Kishi had to kill him off.

[Hidara21]

Guys we are debating with the information we know not speculations.

I know but with the information given I still think they are equal.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Check out the Data Book. We did hardly see. Kishi had to kill him off.

Hidan practically had an arc dedicated to him. Kisame had one fight dedicated to him, and it was 30% of his power.

Who was hardly seen then?

[Hidara21]

Check out the Data Book. We did hardly see. Kishi had to kill him off.

Hidan practically had an arc dedicated to him. Kisame had one fight dedicated to him, and it was 30% of his power.

Who was hardly seen then?

Yeah he had an arc but since he killed Asuma, Kishi HAD to kill him fast. Without showing what he can do.

[Kisame]

Hidan can perform a ritual in which he can kill others with their blood, that's all.

Where is the proof that says otherwise?

[Hidara21]

Hidan can perform a ritual in which he can kill others with their blood, that's all.

Where is the proof that says otherwise?

In the Data book 3 or something or another there was an ask Kishi questions part to it and it said that he was planning on giving his scythe more abilities, but he couldn't because he was losing money and getting complaints about Asuma dying and all that so he killed Hidan off quickly.

[Kisame]

Hidan can perform a ritual in which he can kill others with their blood, that's all.

Where is the proof that says otherwise?

In the Data book 3 or something or another there was an ask Kishi questions part to it and it said that he was planning on giving his scythe more abilities, but he couldn't because he was losing money and getting complaints about Asuma dying and all that so he killed Hidan off quickly.

There you have it, he was planning too but didn't, so that's all Hidan has.

[Hidara21]

Hidan can perform a ritual in which he can kill others with their blood, that's all.

Where is the proof that says otherwise?

In the Data book 3 or something or another there was an ask Kishi questions part to it and it said that he was planning on giving his scythe more abilities, but he couldn't because he was losing money and getting complaints about Asuma dying and all that so he killed Hidan off quickly.

There you have it, he was planning too but didn't, so that's all Hidan has.

I know but still I don't think we saw his true potential.

[Kisame]

Where is the proof that says otherwise?

In the Data book 3 or something or another there was an ask Kishi questions part to it and it said that he was planning on giving his scythe more abilities, but he couldn't because he was losing money and getting complaints about Asuma dying and all that so he killed Hidan off quickly.

There you have it, he was planning too but didn't, so that's all Hidan has.

I know but still I don't think we saw his true potential.[/quote]


We can't speculate his true potential what he's shown is what you have.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I know but still I don't think we saw his true potential.

Well, too bad. We can't make up what we haven't seen.

[Hidara21]

It's very possible that he could have done more, if Shikamaru didn't take him away and blow him up. I would have liked to see the fight go on longer than to watch it end so quickly.

[Miles Edgeworth]

It's very possible that he could have done more, if Shikamaru didn't take him away and blow him up. I would have liked to see the fight go on longer than to watch it end so quickly.

It's very possible Kisame has much more too.

[Kisame]

It's very possible that he could have done more, if Shikamaru didn't take him away and blow him up. I would have liked to see the fight go on longer than to watch it end so quickly.

They're is no point in the ifs, we have no way of knowing, if you're going to debate for him use what he's shown.

[Hidara21]

I know I think Kisame does have a lot more. We haven't seen his true potential either but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Look I realize Kisame is strong Hidan is also strong. I think the match would be even. I am not saying Kisame is GOING to lose and that Hidan WILL win. I am just saying that Hidan does stand a chance against Kisame.

[Kisame]

I know I think Kisame does have a lot more. We haven't seen his true potential either but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Look I realize Kisame is strong Hidan is also strong. I think the match would be even. I am not saying Kisame is GOING to lose and that Hidan WILL win. I am just saying that Hidan does stand a chance against Kisame.


He may stand a chance, but do you have an argument that shows how he can win?

[Miles Edgeworth]

I know I think Kisame does have a lot more. We haven't seen his true potential either but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Look I realize Kisame is strong Hidan is also strong. I think the match would be even. I am not saying Kisame is GOING to lose and that Hidan WILL win. I am just saying that Hidan does stand a chance against Kisame.

Perhaps he has a chance, but the fact still remains that Kisame has a larger chance of winning. He has loads more chakra, was able to keep up with a taijutsu master at 30% of his energy, has a chakra absorbing sword, and is quite the master of water jutsu. Hidan doesn't have much more than "immortality" and a scythe.

[naruto101rox]

hidan with his jutsu will kill sharkboy

[Kisame]

hidan with his jutsu will kill sharkboy



No, Kisame floods the floor and if Hidan tries to draw the ritual it will fade away and Kisame can actually attack from long range.

[Miles Edgeworth]

hidan with his jutsu will kill sharkboy

Epic fail, water can easily wash away blood.

[Hidara21]

I know I think Kisame does have a lot more. We haven't seen his true potential either but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Look I realize Kisame is strong Hidan is also strong. I think the match would be even. I am not saying Kisame is GOING to lose and that Hidan WILL win. I am just saying that Hidan does stand a chance against Kisame.


He may stand a chance, but do you have an argument that shows how he can win?

Neither of us can prove that the other can win. We can't really predict what will happen in the fight.

[Kisame]

I know I think Kisame does have a lot more. We haven't seen his true potential either but I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Look I realize Kisame is strong Hidan is also strong. I think the match would be even. I am not saying Kisame is GOING to lose and that Hidan WILL win. I am just saying that Hidan does stand a chance against Kisame.


He may stand a chance, but do you have an argument that shows how he can win?

Neither of us can prove that the other can win. We can't really predict what will happen in the fight.


This is what this section is for to try to debate over who would win, so far you haven't really made any points helping Hidan much.

[Hidara21]

I am not trying to prove that he can win though. I am telling you how he can stand a chance and how it would be even. That was my goal not proving he could win. But I have to say this argument was fun =)

[Kisame]

I am not trying to prove that he can win though. I am telling you how he can stand a chance and how it would be even. That was my goal not proving he could win. But I have to say this argument was fun =)


I said Hidan may have a chance, nut how would he win?

Yeah, it was fun.

[Hidara21]

I am not trying to prove that he can win though. I am telling you how he can stand a chance and how it would be even. That was my goal not proving he could win. But I have to say this argument was fun =)


I said Hidan may have a chance, nut how would he win?

Yeah, it was fun.

Well didn't you tell me to prove how he could win?

[Kisame]

I am not trying to prove that he can win though. I am telling you how he can stand a chance and how it would be even. That was my goal not proving he could win. But I have to say this argument was fun =)


I said Hidan may have a chance, nut how would he win?

Yeah, it was fun.

Well didn't you tell me to prove how he could win?


Yea, that's what I'm asking for.

[Hidara21]

Honestly I don't know how he could win but I also don't know how Kisame could pull off the win either. That's why I'm saying it could go either way. There isn't any proof of either of them winning until they actually fight. Obviously though thats not gonna happen though.

[Kisame]

Honestly I don't know how he could win but I also don't know how Kisame could pull off the win either. That's why I'm saying it could go either way. There isn't any proof of either of them winning until they actually fight. Obviously though thats not gonna happen though.


For starters try to counter the following argument, because this is how Kisame could win.

Kisame moves far away and floods the entire area until Hidan can't write his ritual on the groind because it will fade away. The he sends his water sharks and attacks with other water jutsu. He can also send water clones to fight in close range while he attacks with water jutsu at long range. Kisame has enough stamina and chakra to keep at it longer than Hidan.

[Hidara21]

Honestly I don't know how he could win but I also don't know how Kisame could pull off the win either. That's why I'm saying it could go either way. There isn't any proof of either of them winning until they actually fight. Obviously though thats not gonna happen though.


For starters try to counter the following argument, because this is how Kisame could win.

Kisame moves far away and floods the entire area until Hidan can't write his ritual on the groind because it will fade away. The he sends his water sharks and attacks with other water jutsu. He can also send water clones to fight in close range while he attacks with water jutsu at long range. Kisame has enough stamina and chakra to keep at it longer than Hidan.

Well the water clones aren't as big of a deal as the sharks but he can use the rope of his scythe to help dodge + his dodging skills and while dodging slice with the spike. Eventually he can get Kisame into close range since Kisame fights close range most of the time.

[Kisame]

Honestly I don't know how he could win but I also don't know how Kisame could pull off the win either. That's why I'm saying it could go either way. There isn't any proof of either of them winning until they actually fight. Obviously though thats not gonna happen though.


For starters try to counter the following argument, because this is how Kisame could win.

Kisame moves far away and floods the entire area until Hidan can't write his ritual on the groind because it will fade away. The he sends his water sharks and attacks with other water jutsu. He can also send water clones to fight in close range while he attacks with water jutsu at long range. Kisame has enough stamina and chakra to keep at it longer than Hidan.

Well the water clones aren't as big of a deal as the sharks but he can use the rope of his scythe to help dodge + his dodging skills and while dodging slice with the spike. Eventually he can get Kisame into close range since Kisame fights close range most of the time.


So Hidan can dodge Kisame throwing his water jutsu, the clones, and sharks at the same time. Even if he dodges and manages to get Kisame in close range Kisame is stronger at taijutsu and if he gets blood at close range Kisame won't let him do it and the water will fade it away.

I have to go, I'll continue it tommorrow.

[Stro]

Kisame is powerful but Hidan is immortal and he can easily defeat Kisame, the person saying Kisame will be a fool!!

[Hidara21]

That's why I'm saying he doesn't need the ritual. He can kill without it. I thought the Data Book said that they both have 4.5 Taijutsu. Well anyways in close combat I kinda think Hidan might have an advantage since he can swing both the scythe and the stick so much easier than Kisame can swing the Samehade. Plus the fact that he would have both of them like a double sword. It would be easier for Hidan to land hits than Kisame.

[seannfma]

Kisame no hands down :D

[Kisame]

That's why I'm saying he doesn't need the ritual. He can kill without it. I thought the Data Book said that they both have 4.5 Taijutsu. Well anyways in close combat I kinda think Hidan might have an advantage since he can swing both the scythe and the stick so much easier than Kisame can swing the Samehade. Plus the fact that he would have both of them like a double sword. It would be easier for Hidan to land hits than Kisame.


From manga feats Kisame has shown to be better at taijutsu then Hidan.

Like I said Kisame doesn't need to fight at close range, he spams suiton from a distance and his clones and sharks attcak at close range.

[Suko]

That's why I'm saying he doesn't need the ritual. He can kill without it. I thought the Data Book said that they both have 4.5 Taijutsu. Well anyways in close combat I kinda think Hidan might have an advantage since he can swing both the scythe and the stick so much easier than Kisame can swing the Samehade. Plus the fact that he would have both of them like a double sword. It would be easier for Hidan to land hits than Kisame.


From manga feats Kisame has shown to be better at taijutsu then Hidan.

Like I said Kisame doesn't need to fight at close range, he spams suiton from a distance and his clones and sharks attcak at close range.
I agree, even though Kisame is strong, he'as not so smart. But on the other hand, Hidan isn't either.

[Hidara21]

That's why I'm saying he doesn't need the ritual. He can kill without it. I thought the Data Book said that they both have 4.5 Taijutsu. Well anyways in close combat I kinda think Hidan might have an advantage since he can swing both the scythe and the stick so much easier than Kisame can swing the Samehade. Plus the fact that he would have both of them like a double sword. It would be easier for Hidan to land hits than Kisame.


From manga feats Kisame has shown to be better at taijutsu then Hidan.

Like I said Kisame doesn't need to fight at close range, he spams suiton from a distance and his clones and sharks attcak at close range.

Well how about this. If Hidan can't get close to Kisame (though I think he could) then Kisame would probably win. However if Hidan does get it to be close range I think he would probably win. There are many possible events that could happen which is why I say that this fight would be epic and even.

[Kisame]

That's why I'm saying he doesn't need the ritual. He can kill without it. I thought the Data Book said that they both have 4.5 Taijutsu. Well anyways in close combat I kinda think Hidan might have an advantage since he can swing both the scythe and the stick so much easier than Kisame can swing the Samehade. Plus the fact that he would have both of them like a double sword. It would be easier for Hidan to land hits than Kisame.


From manga feats Kisame has shown to be better at taijutsu then Hidan.

Like I said Kisame doesn't need to fight at close range, he spams suiton from a distance and his clones and sharks attcak at close range.

Well how about this. If Hidan can't get close to Kisame (though I think he could) then Kisame would probably win. However if Hidan does get it to be close range I think he would probably win. There are many possible events that could happen which is why I say that this fight would be epic and even.


So we agree at long range Kisame wins?

[Hidara21]

Yes and if they get it to be close range Hidan wins.

[Kisame]

Yes and if they get it to be close range Hidan wins.


I still disagree with that, but at least I made some progress.

[Hidara21]

haha I think I made good progress since i got at least some people to believe that it would be an even match.

[Miles Edgeworth]

haha I think I made good progress since i got at least some people to believe that it would be an even match.

Since I wasn't here, I'd like to know how so.

And at close range, I still think that Kisame could easily beat Hidan. If Shika was able to outsmart Hidan at close range, I think that Kisame (who at 30% fought toe to toe with Gai, a taijutsu specialist) would still be able to pwn Hidan at close range.

[Hidara21]

haha I think I made good progress since i got at least some people to believe that it would be an even match.

Since I wasn't here, I'd like to know how so.

And at close range, I still think that Kisame could easily beat Hidan. If Shika was able to outsmart Hidan at close range, I think that Kisame (who at 30% fought toe to toe with Gai, a taijutsu specialist) would still be able to pwn Hidan at close range.

You realize that the only thing Shikamaru did was dodge one time right? If Hidan kept going at him Shikamaru would have been dead the only reason he didn't was because he thought that he did cut him because Shikamaru even put some blood on his cheek to make it look like a cut. If you were Hidan I don't think you would keep swinging if you saw the blood on Shikamaru's cheek and spike.

[Miles Edgeworth]

You realize that the only thing Shikamaru did was dodge one time right? If Hidan kept going at him Shikamaru would have been dead the only reason he didn't was because he thought that he did cut him because Shikamaru even put some blood on his cheek to make it look like a cut. If you were Hidan I don't think you would keep swinging if you saw the blood on Shikamaru's cheek and spike.

You do realize that if I was a maniac like Hidan, the Akatsuki would be doing much better right now and Shikamaru would be dead, right?

[Hidara21]

You realize that the only thing Shikamaru did was dodge one time right? If Hidan kept going at him Shikamaru would have been dead the only reason he didn't was because he thought that he did cut him because Shikamaru even put some blood on his cheek to make it look like a cut. If you were Hidan I don't think you would keep swinging if you saw the blood on Shikamaru's cheek and spike.

You do realize that if I was a maniac like Hidan, the Akatsuki would be doing much better right now and Shikamaru would be dead, right?

How can you possibly determine that? There would be no need to keep slicing away at Shikamaru if you had the blood on the spike and saw the blood on his cheek. But obviously you are smart enough to see past that. :roll:

[Miles Edgeworth]

How can you possibly determine that? There would be no need to keep slicing away at Shikamaru if you had the blood on the spike and saw the blood on his cheek. But obviously you are smart enough to see past that. :roll:

I'm not as arrogant as Hidan, and if I were in his position, I'd probably be a psycho maniac who would slice him into pieces.

[Hidara21]

How can you possibly determine that? There would be no need to keep slicing away at Shikamaru if you had the blood on the spike and saw the blood on his cheek. But obviously you are smart enough to see past that. :roll:

I'm not as arrogant as Hidan, and if I were in his position, I'd probably be a psycho maniac who would slice him into pieces.

Ok then? Well if you had to curse him I don't think you would slice him up that much if it isn't necessary. I wouldn't.

[Miles Edgeworth]

How can you possibly determine that? There would be no need to keep slicing away at Shikamaru if you had the blood on the spike and saw the blood on his cheek. But obviously you are smart enough to see past that. :roll:

I'm not as arrogant as Hidan, and if I were in his position, I'd probably be a psycho maniac who would slice him into pieces.

Ok then? Well if you had to curse him I don't think you would slice him up that much if it isn't necessary. I wouldn't.

I'd cut at least 3 times.

[Vidda Hatake]

I hope everyone is ok in here....

I would want Kisame to win, whether he actually would or not I don't know...

[Hidara21]

Why 3? Oh and I think I know why he didn't cut more than once. There are 2 reasons in his defense. Number 1 Hidan was really eager to kill him with the curse and 2 he probably wanted to hurry back to Kakuzu.

[deidara330]

Wow, I'd had no idea I'd created the most successful Vs. topic yet. I feel so glad my topic didn't die. Kisame FTW!

[Miles Edgeworth]

Wowza, some people overrate Hidan so much lol.