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<Aurega?>
06-20-2009, 04:08 AM
Is there any chance to implement something like this: http://www.123flashchat.com/vBulletin_chat.html?

Also, if the chat could be limited to specific user groups as well that would be even more awesomer.

hazymoon101
06-20-2009, 07:49 AM
Is there any chance to implement something like this: http://www.123flashchat.com/vBulletin_chat.html?

Also, if the chat could be limited to specific user groups as well that would be even more awesomer.
I not sure cause the forum might not understand the codec or something

Sage Mode
06-20-2009, 09:37 AM
A chat idea actually came up. There were questions of how effectively we could moderate it, though. It's possible that we could try something out.

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 09:42 AM
That would be cool, you could pick people to test it out, and see how effectively you could mod it. You could always put some type off censor thing in place, and assign someone the "job" of watching over it.

Like in Fusion Fall, when they pick up something they deem inappropriate (which sometimes, it isn't inappropriate at all) it says "Cococo Coco Cococo" but here, it could say "Believe It!" or something.

<Aurega?>
06-20-2009, 10:03 AM
I see, moderation is the challenge in this.

No, I just had the idea, when I was having a PM conversation with someone, that it would be so much easier if we had a chat function.

So how do you moderate PMs?

Naruto
06-20-2009, 10:34 AM
That be cool.

Naruto
06-20-2009, 10:36 AM
The good thing about this is that you could communicate faster.

Sage Mode
06-20-2009, 10:39 AM
I see, moderation is the challenge in this.

No, I just had the idea, when I was having a PM conversation with someone, that it would be so much easier if we had a chat function.

So how do you moderate PMs?

Through top secret espionage. Granted there's no way to read every PM, but they're also not visible to everyone else in the world either.

I guess usergroup chats would solve that visibility problem, but it would also be a double-edged sword and possibly just make this a place where people come together to get into their own chatrooms, thereby destroying a lot of the community. There are a lot of things to think about and balance.

Naruto
06-20-2009, 10:43 AM
Through top secret espionage. Granted there's no way to read every PM, but they're also not visible to everyone else in the world either.

I guess usergroup chats would solve that visibility problem, but it would also be a double-edged sword and possibly just make this a place where people come together to get into their own chatrooms, thereby destroying a lot of the community. There are a lot of things to think about and balance.
Very true. The more features that are for PMs or other stuff the less this site is going to be about Naruto. It wiil be like a place where you come to talk about anything instead of Naruto.

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 10:44 AM
Through top secret espionage. Granted there's no way to read every PM, but they're also not visible to everyone else in the world either.

I guess usergroup chats would solve that visibility problem, but it would also be a double-edged sword and possibly just make this a place where people come together to get into their own chatrooms, thereby destroying a lot of the community. There are a lot of things to think about and balance.


Wow, you guys spy on us!?!?!?! The usergroup thing would probably ruin the point of the forum, but then again, we would probably be able to get rid of the sections of the Off-topic where people only talk about randomness. It would help us temp mods with cleaning the forums, we have the whole off-topic to do, and it sucks hard!

What if it was made in a way that you had to send a PM to a mod asking to open a chat, and it would need to be about a certain topic, or just a random thing. and when they set off a censor, if they set it off, a mod would go in, see if it was a mistake, or on purpose, and then take action from there. I can re-explain this if you need.

Chidori Shuriken
06-20-2009, 03:55 PM
I like Nick's idea, but it would be a pain to PM a Mod. And what about in the morning and you want a chat? Mods aren't here in the mornings.

SRhyse
06-20-2009, 04:20 PM
Though it's easy as pie to set this up, which I already have on the test forum, we're pretty against any and all features that would discourage discussions from being open to everyone regardless of time and place, which is alot of what a forum's about. That, and every other IM would have to do with suggestive genitalia. I would only currently consider enabling it within the War Council's private space, which I'm assuming is the only place you'd really need it, Aurega?

Taco
06-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Though it's easy as pie to set this up, which I already have on the test forum, we're pretty against any and all features that would discourage discussions from being open to everyone regardless of time and place, which is alot of what a forum's about. That, and every other IM would have to do with suggestive genitalia. I would only currently consider enabling it within the War Council's private space, which I'm assuming is the only place you'd really need it, Aurega?
Or you could just disable the ability to PM in chatrooms.

With all honesty, I believe the forum is just as good as the chatroom. I'm perfectly fine with private messaging and discussing on the boards. If you enabled a chatroom, there'd probably 5 messages sent per second which would make the whole thing a mess and a total clutter. It's a fun idea, though. Is it possible to restrict the chatroom to rank?

SRhyse
06-20-2009, 04:41 PM
Or you could just disable the ability to PM in chatrooms.

With all honesty, I believe the forum is just as good as the chatroom. I'm perfectly fine with private messaging and discussing on the boards. If you enabled a chatroom, there'd probably 5 messages sent per second which would make the whole thing a mess and a total clutter. It's a fun idea, though. Is it possible to restrict the chatroom to rank?
I'm not sure what you mean by disabling the PMing in chatrooms. Imagine an IM chat box like in AIM, except it's on the forum, and everyone with access can view and post messages in realtime. That's what we're talking about.

And access can be restricted, but like I said, I'm only considering allowing it within the War Council Database, which no one but people on the War Council can access, see, and typically know about it's existance at all.

Taco
06-20-2009, 04:52 PM
Oh, yeah, I see what you're talking about.

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 05:41 PM
That sounds pretty good, I have friends on the War Council, and they always talk about how things are slow to get done partially because of the inability to communicate other than using PM's, which takes awhile, where IM type stuff would be a lot faster.

SRhyse
06-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Alright, so if someone can post a list of all the users in the War Council to me without spaces that aren't part of the username or line breaks, and only using semicolons (;) to separate them, I can get this going by tomorrow. For example:

SRhyse;Toma RNK;Aurega;Some Other Name 21;

Only the War Council can see it, or even use it.

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 05:49 PM
SRhyse;Toma RNK;NARUTARD93;zachrex33;Aurega;Kuroda Taishi;Sage Mode;AshenReaper;itachiuchiha85

I don't think I know any more.

SRhyse
06-20-2009, 05:53 PM
Actually, nm on the names. I hadn't realized there was already a hidden usergroup made for you guys. I'll try to put up the chat now.

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 05:55 PM
Actually, nm on the names. I hadn't realized there was already a hidden usergroup made for you guys. I'll try to put up the chat now.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Silly SRhyse, mistakes are for regular members!! :lol::lol:

Nick Tasogare
06-20-2009, 05:56 PM
Umm, we can all see the chat, is that intentional?

EDIT: nevermind :lol:

SRhyse
06-20-2009, 06:02 PM
Ok, the chat's up on the main page for Admins and War Councilmen only.

Kakashi71
06-20-2009, 07:12 PM
I like the chat thing i recommended a thing like that along time ago:mrgreen:

Nine
11-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Not bumping this up but,Is this what the Chatbox looks like?
(I.E the link of the first page)

:Gaara:
11-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Well there are different chat boxes but I dont think it would be a good idea... Users would take advantage of spamming and it would be way to over crowed. But the different types of chat boxes are like devion shout boxes, normal chat boxes etc.

Naruto
11-05-2009, 05:01 PM
Well there are different chat boxes but I dont think it would be a good idea... Users would take advantage of spamming and it would be way to over crowed. But the different types of chat boxes are like devion shout boxes, normal chat boxes etc.
Wow its been sometime since this thread has been posted in. Well it would get overcrowded.

Nine
11-05-2009, 07:33 PM
But this is why Its limited to 'Important' people.

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 03:39 AM
But this is why Its limited to 'Important' people.


Cause it is a massive strain n the database srver ad the moe people in it exponentially puts more strain on the server.

I case you didn't know the server died yesterday, and we are in lockdown for a reason.

The chatbox is so a core group of people can collaborate with the mods and or each other.

For example, for a while of of the council and a few beta testers had access to coordinate on making the war system, or the beta. This is not the case any more.

Now a few of us discuss policy, infractions, , and if a thread needs editing posting it in there is a good way to make sure it happens.

It is at present an administrative tool. If everyone was let in, it would be full of "LOL" "YA!" "ME TOO!" and
"OMFGWTFBBQ THIS THING IS SCROLLING TOO FAST, I CAN'T READ ANYTHING!"

and then the server would die.

:Gaara:
11-06-2009, 03:43 AM
I see what your saying, it would work if limited to vip... But I would rather have another page for the chat box other then having it embeded on the main page.

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 03:53 AM
I see what your saying, it would work if limited to vip... But I would rather have another page for the chat box other then having it embeded on the main page.


There is one:

http://naruto.vminigun.viz.com/forum/misc.php?do=cchatbox

but you cannot see it.

sasu_girl
11-06-2009, 03:55 AM
I see what your saying, it would work if limited to vip... But I would rather have another page for the chat box other then having it embeded on the main page.
why don't you just make one on chatngo.com

Shkin
11-06-2009, 04:02 AM
i heard the chatbox is where you guys find gummy bears and stuffs...xD

sasu_girl
11-06-2009, 04:07 AM
i heard the chatbox is where you guys find gummy bears and stuffs...xD
mm, gummy bears ^_^

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 04:08 AM
i heard the chatbox is where you guys find gummy bears and stuffs...xD


Thats an odd way to looking at that:

It usually ends up more like:


Note: read bottom to top, new posts sho up on top.


http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 16:45 Toma RNK *1 hour later* Nevermind
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 15:41 Aurega *6 hours later* huh?
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 09:15 AshenREAPER *2 hours later...* *Just wakes up* Yeah you should. xD
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 07:27 Toma RNK *2 hours later* I really should go to bed
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 05:28 Toma RNK *2 hours later...* Nevermind!
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 03:33 AshenREAPER *2 hours later...* What?
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 02:05 Aurega i'll go prepare something for tomorrow and then go to bed
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 02:05 Aurega all right toma
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 01:50 Aurega hehe

and yes that is a direct copy from the logs.

Edit: Formatting

Shkin
11-06-2009, 04:12 AM
i heard the chatbox is where you guys find gummy bears and stuffs...xD


Thats an odd way to looking at that:

It usually ends up more like:


Note: read bottom to top, new posts sho up on top.


http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 16:45 Toma RNK *1 hour later* Nevermind
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 15:41 Aurega *6 hours later* huh?
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 09:15 AshenREAPER *2 hours later...* *Just wakes up* Yeah you should. xD
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 07:27 Toma RNK *2 hours later* I really should go to bed
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 05:28 Toma RNK *2 hours later...* Nevermind!
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 03:33 AshenREAPER *2 hours later...* What?
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 02:05 Aurega i'll go prepare something for tomorrow and then go to bed
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 02:05 Aurega all right toma
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif 03-11, 01:50 Aurega hehe

and yes that is a direct copy from the logs.

Edit: Formatting



did you just hypnotize me? my eyes hurt and i'm becoming light headed...poor guys who can access the chatbox..xD

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 04:17 AM
did you just hypnotize me? my eyes hurt and i'm becoming light headed...poor guys who can access the chatbox..xD


Fixed it

Shkin
11-06-2009, 04:25 AM
that's better...xD still rainbow people lurk there..xD

Nine
11-06-2009, 04:52 AM
I've heard 'differnt' things about the box....

animelover
11-06-2009, 04:57 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Silly SRhyse, mistakes are for regular members!! :lol::lol:

Other then the "war" thing, and some members knowing about computer problems and tech. stuff, you ARE regular members.

:|

Shkin
11-06-2009, 04:59 AM
I've heard 'differnt' things about the box....
what happens in the chatbox...stays in the chatbox..:lol:

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 06:38 AM
I've heard 'differnt' things about the box....


Well I don' know what you have heard, but I have access, and that's what I see.

zebrakiller
11-06-2009, 09:22 AM
so even the forums have an upper class elite huh?...will the segregation never end?

<Aurega?>
11-06-2009, 10:27 AM
so even the forums have an upper class elite huh?...will the segregation never end?

Not really elite. Rather that some people with responsibilities gets additional tools to make sure they can uphold them.

Toma RNK
11-06-2009, 10:29 AM
so even the forums have an upper class elite huh?...will the segregation never end?

would you rather everyone were given moderator powers? and could edit everything you said?

Some degree of segregation always happens, but the reasoning for it is key. In this case it is to promote quick and fair moderation, as well as utilizing a tool for the war council to get the war system together.

It is a simple matter of CAN'T over WONT at this point. the chatbox could not work with a large userbase, but it can help the small group of us who donate our time here to keep the boards moderated.

zebrakiller
11-06-2009, 12:25 PM
lighten up gents i was only having a laugh. obviously i see the need for it to be restricted, and the usefulness. A chat would ruin the forums if open to the public.