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SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 02:38 AM
naruto 500-503 shows that mandara did manually summoned the ninetails, making what he told sasuke partly lies. he told sasuke that the ninetails was a freak of nature. Is sasuke just being used in some way? if sasuke finds out, would that be enough reason to side with the leaf again?

darkjam
07-27-2010, 02:41 AM
Haha, of course Sasuke is being used xD I highly doubt that that alone will cause him to re-join the leaf and well obviously Madara is a liar xD

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 02:46 AM
Haha, of course Sasuke is being used xD I highly doubt that that alone will cause him to re-join the leaf and well obviously Madara is a liar xD
one statement sasuke said was that akatsuki wasnt going to use him and his team but he will use the akatsuki.. Who's using who here? :/

darkjam
07-27-2010, 02:49 AM
one statement sasuke said was that akatsuki wasnt going to use him and his team but he will use the akatsuki.. Who's using who here? :/

Welll Sasuke thinks he's using Akatsuki, and Tobi is using Sasuke (but Sasuke can't see it) At least that's what I think is going on, mind I haven't really been paying much attention lately >> It's slightly complicated xD

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 02:53 AM
Welll Sasuke thinks he's using Akatsuki, and Tobi is using Sasuke (but Sasuke can't see it) At least that's what I think is going on, mind I haven't really been paying much attention lately >> It's slightly complicated xD
haha yeah it is.. its about the time sasuke captured the fake hachibi.. its like he knew mandara was trying to use him so he is back stabbing him because sasuke is really using him but mandara is anticpating the back stabbing so his really the one whos in control? i think......

darkjam
07-27-2010, 02:55 AM
haha yeah it is.. its about the time sasuke captured the fake hachibi.. its like he knew mandara was trying to use him so he is back stabbing him because sasuke is really using him but mandara is anticpating the back stabbing so his really the one whos in control? i think......

xD, of course Madara is in control. He is awesome at manipulating people >>

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 02:58 AM
xD, of course Madara is in control. He is awesome at manipulating people >>
i get it i think haha thank you.. haha.. atleast i wouldnt feel bad when sasuke someday kill mandara for all the lies he done...

darkjam
07-27-2010, 03:01 AM
i get it i think haha thank you.. haha.. atleast i wouldnt feel bad when sasuke someday kill mandara for all the lies he done...

xD, no worries. xDD, I don't think Sasuke can kill Madara, not right now at least...

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 03:03 AM
xD, no worries. xDD, I don't think Sasuke can kill Madara, not right now at least...
haha sasuke will kill mandara or atleast hurt him very badly because sasuke is one of the main character.. haha its not fair i know but they cant be beaten

gama-sennin
07-27-2010, 03:04 AM
Sasuke is just a stupid kid who doesnt understand anything. Even pain was manipulated by Madara/Tobi. He is the master at the art and if Sasuke somehow thinks different then it just validates his brain damage.

darkjam
07-27-2010, 03:05 AM
haha sasuke will kill mandara or atleast hurt him very badly because sasuke is one of the main character.. haha its not fair i know but they cant be beaten

xDD, possibly. But not any time soon IMO, he's not strong enough yet >>

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 03:09 AM
Sasuke is just a stupid kid who doesnt understand anything. Even pain was manipulated by Madara/Tobi. He is the master at the art and if Sasuke somehow thinks different then it just validates his brain damage.
i guess that could be seen as an ability of mandara, after all his really old.. im imagining being old does that to a man.. hhmm well can somehow in any way mandara manipulated itachi.? like maybe the massacre? i know it saved the village but in the same time mandara got what he wanted.. isnt that manipulative?

gama-sennin
07-27-2010, 07:12 AM
Madara always gets whatever he wants by manipulating people around him. I think Itachi most probably believed that helping Madara to kill the uchiha's will result in calming his hatred against Konoha. But that wasn't the case since Madara took all the sharingans and is planning to do something with them.

Abel Uchiha
07-27-2010, 07:16 AM
Sasuke is being used because he killed Danzo for Madara and doesnt even no it which is sad. Madara isnt being used at all.

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 07:52 AM
itachi never trusted mandara in ways sasuke did.. i mean, itachi did leave a small amount of his power to naruto, which means he knew of mandara's deception. i think sasuke just killed danzo just cause he knew he had something to do with the uchiha massacre which is true.

Anathema
07-27-2010, 10:38 AM
Sasuke is just a stupid kid who doesnt understand anything. Even pain was manipulated by Madara/Tobi. He is the master at the art and if Sasuke somehow thinks different then it just validates his brain damage.

Sasuke understands that Madara wishes to use him. You can't go around ignoring canon like that. He knows it and plans on using the Akatsuki to his advantage in his plot against Konoha.

Madara always gets whatever he wants by manipulating people around him. I think Itachi most probably believed that helping Madara to kill the uchiha's will result in calming his hatred against Konoha. But that wasn't the case since Madara took all the sharingans and is planning to do something with them.

It's the other way around. Itachi was ordered to assassinate the Uchiha clan and obviously he'd need assistance battling against a prodigal clan. Madara agreed to assist Itachi, who had discovered his existence, bribed by the thought of gaining vengeance on the Uchiha clan, who had turned their backs on him decades before in return for not attacking Konoha. Itachi knew of Madara's demeanor and knew that would not be the case.

Sasuke is being used because he killed Danzo for Madara and doesnt even no it which is sad. Madara isnt being used at all.

Sasuke wanted vengeance on the council members for what they had done to his clan, it wasn't all Madara. Danzo had been a part of the council, on Sasuke's hit list.

itachi never trusted mandara in ways sasuke did.. i mean, itachi did leave a small amount of his power to naruto, which means he knew of mandara's deception. i think sasuke just killed danzo just cause he knew he had something to do with the uchiha massacre which is true.

Both Sasuke and Itachi don't trust Madara. Sasuke had been left advice by Itachi of Madara's cunning and to beware of him. Sasuke is more likely to trust his brother's words than the enigma that is Madara.

SimpleGenin
07-27-2010, 05:30 PM
Sasuke understands that Madara wishes to use him. You can't go around ignoring canon like that. He knows it and plans on using the Akatsuki to his advantage in his plot against Konoha.



It's the other way around. Itachi was ordered to assassinate the Uchiha clan and obviously he'd need assistance battling against a prodigal clan. Madara agreed to assist Itachi, who had discovered his existence, bribed by the thought of gaining vengeance on the Uchiha clan, who had turned their backs on him decades before in return for not attacking Konoha. Itachi knew of Madara's demeanor and knew that would not be the case.



Sasuke wanted vengeance on the council members for what they had done to his clan, it wasn't all Madara. Danzo had been a part of the council, on Sasuke's hit list.



Both Sasuke and Itachi don't trust Madara. Sasuke had been left advice by Itachi of Madara's cunning and to beware of him. Sasuke is more likely to trust his brother's words than the enigma that is Madara.

so are they using other some how then cause saying that sasuke is using mandara seems a little weird.. afterall his been calling the shot this whole time. and Itachi's wish for sasuke was completely thrown. his rage towards konoha might be how mandara's using sasuke the same as pain was being used