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Tourune
07-20-2010, 10:31 AM
Location: Were KB Fought Taka

Restrictions: KB Can Only Go Up To 7 Tails Version 1

Distance: 40 Meters

Acceptions: Equal Speed IN ALL FORMS. when KB goes Jinchurican form Minato sommons Gamabunta.

Scenario 2: No Equal Speed + KB can go up to V2 Bujji form.

J-Sun Tasogare
07-20-2010, 10:34 AM
Scenario 1: KB goes 7 Tails and speedblitzes Minato to hell and back.

Scenario 2: He does the same thing but his punches hurt more.

Tourune
07-20-2010, 10:37 AM
Scenario 1: KB goes 7 Tails and speedblitzes Minato to hell and back.

Scenario 2: He does the same thing but his punches hurt more.
Minato to on the 9 Tails (Hype OR Not) he has shown he is able to handle Bujji's so i dont think he would die like that

J-Sun Tasogare
07-20-2010, 10:38 AM
KB isn't a full Bijuu.

Tourune
07-20-2010, 10:51 AM
KB isn't a full Bijuu.
true but when Kushina was giving birth he showed the abillity to control the 9 Tails inside of her which showedhe knows how to manage some Bujji chakra

J-Sun Tasogare
07-20-2010, 10:55 AM
Because he has knowledge of seals BUT KB has a different Seal and Minato actually has to touch the seal which KB won't give him a chance to do.

Nyruss
07-20-2010, 10:56 AM
The only thing Minato has that could possibly do anything to Bee is Dead Demon Consuming Seal and he'll he dead LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG before he decides to use that.

He's got nothing to suggest he can survive more than .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00001 yoctoseconds against Bee. And that only if Bee decides to take his time killing Minato instead of just doing it instantly.

Miles Edgeworth
07-20-2010, 11:44 AM
In no way has Minato ever shown the capability to kill Bee.

Bee proceeds to one shot him via Lariat in both scenarios. Yeah, Minato isn't gonna do very well against him.

Akatsuki X
07-20-2010, 12:20 PM
If I see one more Minato thread, I think I'm going to kill myself.

Honestly, just because he's gaining new feats, dosen't mean you have the right to make every possible match-up with him.

Anyways, Minato gets lariated in a fraction of a second.

Lmaostomp.

Niesen Uchiha
07-20-2010, 04:35 PM
Kira Bee can easily speedrape Minato so much it isn't funny.

mutymagic
07-20-2010, 05:42 PM
I love minato i think hed win fast and strong thats all you need for a shinobi and hell use thunder god justu or something like that and waaabbbbam

Kuromaki
07-20-2010, 05:46 PM
I love minato i think hed win fast and strong thats all you need for a shinobi and hell use thunder god justu or something like that and waaabbbbam
This is a debate not a popularity contest, I love Minato too but honestly people are wanking him too much. Unless he shows feats that prove he can keep up with Killer Bee, he can't win this fight. Killer Bee is simply too fast and strong and even in scenario 1 he can take it cause Minato has little to harm him with in his tailed state. Minato's teleportation takes a seal to use and he won't get one on Killer Bee easily.

Akatsuki X
07-20-2010, 05:50 PM
I love minato i think hed win fast and strong thats all you need for a shinobi and hell use thunder god justu or something like that and waaabbbbam

Not even close,
not even.

Killerbee is 1,000,000 times faster, stronger, everything.

-DeathShadow-
07-20-2010, 09:39 PM
Minato,He's Fast and strong

Kuromaki
07-20-2010, 09:58 PM
Minato,He's Fast and strong
With feats, he's not as fast as Killer Bee (scenario 2) and he's certainly not as strong. Killer Bee was able to effortlessly stop Suigetsu's sword and tank a kick from Sasuke and that's not even all of his strength feats.

Nyruss
07-20-2010, 11:44 PM
Minato has no strength feats to speak of.

Lone Wolf
07-20-2010, 11:55 PM
Minato is frail, he may be fast but hes super weak.

He isn't this guy:

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Namikaze Minato Sensei
07-21-2010, 12:16 AM
true but when Kushina was giving birth he showed the abillity to control the 9 Tails inside of her which showedhe knows how to manage some Bujji chakra


Not BUJJII, it's Bijuu!!!

gama-sennin
07-21-2010, 02:20 AM
He's got nothing to suggest he can survive more than .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00001 yoctoseconds against Bee.


Killerbee is 1,000,000 times faster, stronger, everything.


To all the newbies out there, this is what wanking looks like. Dont do it. lol

About the fight, Killerbee wins by killing Minato.

Nyruss
07-21-2010, 08:59 AM
That's not wanking that's exaggeration. You thinking it's wanking is what whining looks like.

Akatsuki X
07-21-2010, 02:14 PM
To all the newbies out there, this is what wanking looks like. Dont do it. lol

About the fight, Killerbee wins by killing Minato.

Ohhh because you know, with all of your experience and wisdom, your obviously not a newbie or anything.

DSPR7
07-22-2010, 06:41 AM
1) Killerbee rapes. Hard. Minato has basically no feats, Killerbee is full of win. After reading everything else on here, I don't need to say more.

2) It's EXCEPTIONS, not ACCEPTIONS. :/ Normally I really wouldn't care, but this is what, the tenth thread in a row you've done that? PLEASE spell it right... please.

Kon
07-22-2010, 06:50 AM
Minato wouldnt even let Bee touch him although if Bee is fast enough Bee definetly has it his power and chakra are just overwhelming Minato couldnt hack it it would be too much for him although it would be a cool fight to see

Sagє Modє Naruto !
07-24-2010, 06:48 AM
Killer Bee is waay to fast for Minato
Minato is fast and cool and all but
I havent seen anything to prove he could keep up with Bee
Both Scenarios go to bee

-Naruto-
07-24-2010, 07:02 AM
let's see here. what do we know exactly about Minato? not very much, so we can't go assuming he will get his but kicked. it would be super hard, but he has that transport technique and that makes him faster than anyone really, plus his jutsu are unknown besides that one, i assume he knows rasengan and maybe giant rassengan, other than that it's kinda mysterious

final outcome: can not be predicted ACCURATELY do to lack of moves know by Minato, we do know Minato would be faster, and we do know that KB supposevly has the better strength, it can be assumed that KB will win in my opinion, unless Minato has some great jutsu again

Akatsuki X
07-24-2010, 10:59 AM
let's see here. what do we know exactly about Minato? not very much, so we can't go assuming he will get his but kicked. it would be super hard, but he has that transport technique and that makes him faster than anyone really, plus his jutsu are unknown besides that one, i assume he knows rasengan and maybe giant rassengan, other than that it's kinda mysterious

final outcome: can not be predicted ACCURATELY do to lack of moves know by Minato, we do know Minato would be faster, and we do know that KB supposevly has the better strength, it can be assumed that KB will win in my opinion, unless Minato has some great jutsu again

Except for the fact that Minato is not faster.

And that he will be lariated into pieces before he can even contemplate using FTG.

gama-sennin
07-24-2010, 11:03 AM
To all the newbies out there, this is what wanking looks like. Dont do it. lol



Ohhh because you know, with all of your experience and wisdom, your obviously not a newbie or anything.

I could have said "all the noobs(including me)" but honesty ruins all the fun. :lol:

Akatsuki X
07-24-2010, 11:07 AM
Well don't call me a noob for simply putting that KB rapes.

FlyingThunderGod
07-24-2010, 11:18 AM
I cant picture Killer Bee beating Minato. Kisame gave Bee a beating. Bee is not faster than Minato, because 4th Raikage is faster than Bee in his raiton, and he is only comparably close to the Minato. So Minato is Fastest for sure. And Minato has to have some crazy Ninjutsu skills.

gama-sennin
07-24-2010, 11:24 AM
I cant picture Killer Bee beating Minato. Kisame gave Bee a beating. Bee is not faster than Minato, because 4th Raikage is faster than Bee in his raiton, and he is only comparably close to the Minato. So Minato is Fastest for sure. And Minato has to have some crazy Ninjutsu skills.

Nah. That wont work. There is no solid proof to back it up. Minato is awesome but Kishi hasn't given him enough feats, so we have to say that KB takes this one based on feats.

Kuromaki
07-24-2010, 11:27 AM
Killer Bee is waay to fast for Minato
Minato is fast and cool and all but
I havent seen anything to prove he could keep up with Bee
Both Scenarios go to bee

Stop repeating other people's points.
I cant picture Killer Bee beating Minato. Kisame gave Bee a beating. Bee is not faster than Minato, because 4th Raikage is faster than Bee in his raiton, and he is only comparably close to the Minato. So Minato is Fastest for sure. And Minato has to have some crazy Ninjutsu skills.
So? Kisame could beat Minato too, and Killer Bee could've won if he went full Hachibi.

Bee could gain Raikage speed with enough tails and Minato being as fast as the Raikage is pure hype, here we use feats for debating.

FlyingThunderGod
07-24-2010, 11:44 AM
What feats... He got bodied twice. By Sasuke even though he didnt want to fight and got away, and Kisame was just whaling on Bee. I believe that Kisame can beat Minato. And its Raikage being as fast as Minato, not the way you said it.

Nyruss
07-24-2010, 11:46 AM
Hype is hype no matter how you phrase it.

Kuromaki
07-24-2010, 01:16 PM
What feats... He got bodied twice. By Sasuke even though he didnt want to fight and got away, and Kisame was just whaling on Bee. I believe that Kisame can beat Minato. And its Raikage being as fast as Minato, not the way you said it.
He wasn't taking Sasuke seriously and still whooped his ass.

There's no solid proof that Minato is nearly that fast. It's still hype.

Rasen_Chidori
07-24-2010, 07:35 PM
Based on feats alone, Bee wins due to superior strength and chakra reserves, he also has the 8-tails if he needs it, the only thing that Minato has is probable superior speed. (But there is still not sufficient evidence of this.)

Miles Edgeworth
07-24-2010, 08:46 PM
Based on feats alone, Bee wins due to superior strength and chakra reserves, he also has the 8-tails if he needs it, the only thing that Minato has is probable superior speed. (But there is still not sufficient evidence of this.)

Minato's speed has been hyped throughout the manga but we still haven't seen nearly enough to prove that people aren't just seeing FTG rather than pure, raw speed.

It'd be quite a feat if Minato was capable of surpassing Bee's speed, since Bee is among the fastest in Naruto.

4th hokage97
07-24-2010, 08:50 PM
minato because he can do the rasengan and the third hokage's soul move and he knows how 2 seal beast so now yu understand cuzz`:))

Kuromaki
07-24-2010, 08:52 PM
minato because he can do the rasengan and the third hokage's soul move and he knows how 2 seal beast so now yu understand cuzz`:))
Rasengan isn't doing crap to Killer Bee if Minato can't hit him. Dead Demon Consuming Seal would kill both Minato and Bee, assuming that Killer Bee stands still in order for Minato to get a hold of him.

Miles Edgeworth
07-24-2010, 09:03 PM
minato because he can do the rasengan and the third hokage's soul move and he knows how 2 seal beast so now yu understand cuzz`:))

Konohamaru can do Rasengan, can he kill Bee?

Hiruzen can use Dead Demon Consuming Seal, does that mean he can kill Bee?

We have no idea what the circumstances with sealing the Kyuubi are, and how in the heck is he going to remove Hachibi and seal it into something? He sealed it into Naruto, and in these one-on-one battles there won't be any person to seal it into.

Rasen_Chidori
07-24-2010, 09:25 PM
Minato's speed has been hyped throughout the manga but we still haven't seen nearly enough to prove that people aren't just seeing FTG rather than pure, raw speed.

It'd be quite a feat if Minato was capable of surpassing Bee's speed, since Bee is among the fastest in Naruto.

That was my point, it probably won't matter what happens in the manga, because it is near impossible to prove any seeming quick movement that Minato does isnt FTG.

Lycaon19
07-24-2010, 09:28 PM
Killer Bee is Not that Godly of a Ninja in this series. Minato will murderlize Bee. Okay that's beasting. But the 4th would surely not lose or even be touched within the first 5 hits, even the first 15 hits. Minato would spam hiraishin and hiraishin level 2 and He'll probably right the symbol on Bee's back so he'll teleport on Bee's body with kunai in hand all day. Not to mention him being a sealing genius would be all kinds of nightmares for Bee's Bijuu. The 4th will seal the Hachibi from Killer Bee in the same move of cutting off his hands while teleporting out of Bee's back and threw Bee's chest. lol

Miles Edgeworth
07-24-2010, 09:37 PM
Killer Bee is Not that Godly of a Ninja in this series. Minato will murderlize Bee. Okay that's beasting. But the 4th would surely not lose or even be touched within the first 5 hits, even the first 15 hits. Minato would spam hiraishin and hiraishin level 2 and He'll probably right the symbol on Bee's back so he'll teleport on Bee's body with kunai in hand all day. Not to mention him being a sealing genius would be all kinds of nightmares for Bee's Bijuu. The 4th will seal the Hachibi from Killer Bee in the same move of cutting off his hands while teleporting out of Bee's back and threw Bee's chest. lol

Bee was utterly curbstomping Sasuke, better than we've seen from Minato.

So how does Minato use Flying Thunder God against an opponent like Bee, who can utterly blitz him and one shot him easily? Speed is equalized in Scenario 1 but he can still one shot him, Minato has no durability feats.

If Minato tried to make combat with Bee he'd get his head cut off, fast.

Prove that Minato has the feats to extract Hachibi without any problem, even if he could, he dies, GG Minato.

Nyruss
07-24-2010, 10:21 PM
I'd love to see Minato try and spam FTG when he gets chopped into little tiny pieces before he can process the thought of how overwanked he is by fanboys.

Lycaon19
07-24-2010, 11:53 PM
Killer Bee doesn't even deserve the amount of thunder jobs he's getting against the 4th Hokage. Minato and Raikage would have been a more even match compared to Bee, Kisame is more than a match for Bee and Kisame is not even well reknowned or kage level.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Killer Bee is better than the Fourth in nearly, in not literally, every way. He's faster, stronger, he's a better character.

Kisame not Kage level? What in god's name have you been smoking? If I hadn't already negged you I'd neg you.

And to suggest that Minato could even exist in the same room as A without exploding...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k38/anaheyla/lol.png?t=1277005473

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 12:10 AM
Now that deserves a hefty amount of figiggle brains. A slammed into a wall at the sight of Uchiha Madara, while the 4th not only faced the man but stole his Demon from him and gave it to his son as a birthday gift, "Hey son here's the Kyuubi's soul I hope you like it.."

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 12:11 AM
Irrelevant, Minato beating Madara was utter plot, to say nothing of the fact that Minato had an opportunity to exploit Madara's weakness, which the Raikage lacked.

In any event, A's feats take a big smelly dump on Minato's in every way and there is no way in this or any universe that Minato could possibly beat him unless A stood there and let him win.

Unless you can back up your fanboyish claims that Minato is like unto God Himself, omnipotent and omniscient in every way.

Akatsuki X
07-25-2010, 12:19 AM
Now that deserves a hefty amount of figiggle brains. A slammed into a wall at the sight of Uchiha Madara, while the 4th not only faced the man but stole his Demon from him and gave it to his son as a birthday gift, "Hey son here's the Kyuubi's soul I hope you like it.."

Your obviously trolling.
Please leave,
now.

Unless you can actually show feats to back up your claim that Minato could survive half a second with Bee or A.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 04:52 AM
How is it trolling to say that Minato is capable of defeating Killer Bee? -__- and for the fact that Minato is more on par with A which was stated in the manga. Not mention the only ones claiming omnipotency of a character is you. I just don't have a cemented grasp of the rules here so I don't know if I can mention manga or not. Minato is somewhat faster than A and A is light speed, one thing faster than light is Time-Space which is up Minato's ally and I'm saying if Minato will make A bleed then how does he lose so badly to Killer Bee?

Killer Bee is physically stronger than him yea but the two Brothers are physically Stronger than just about everyone in the manga or anime. However Minato is not only a Genius but he near single handedly ended the 3rd ninja War. What about that feat. I mean Bee has a Bijuu and his tremndous Skills, but Sasuke is quite the chump infront of the Kage's his victories are true Plot no jutsu but A annihilated him and gave away his arm willingly and Bee being second best in Kumo but losing to Sasuke just by a sudden gain of hell fire. Don't get me wrong Killer Bee is a awesome character but I dont see him beating any of the Hokages including the 4th one.

SimpleGenin
07-25-2010, 06:19 AM
i personally think that minato is faster than killer bee but doesnt have the raw strength to deal with him. ( based on what we know about Minato as of now )

i think it'll be a close call with killer bee taking the win in his jinch. form, even if gamabunta helped out Minato

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 09:58 AM
Based on what we know of MInato as of now he's not faster than Killer Bee.

Minato is more on par with A which was stated in the manga.
Character statements are meaningless. Show me feats that prove that Minato is anywhere near A's level.

Minato is somewhat faster than A

Prove it.


and A is light speed
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No.


if Minato will make A bleed then how does he lose so badly to Killer Bee?
Minato can't make A bleed.
However Minato is not only a Genius but he near single handedly ended the 3rd ninja War. Irrelevant.


What about that feat.That's not a feat, we saw one battle, in which he had massive prep time to completely stack the fight in his own favor.

Sasuke is quite the chump infront of the Kage's Irrelevant.
I dont see him beating any of the Hokages including the 4th one

Being a Kage doesn't automatically mean you're omnipotent. Bee may not be a Kage but that doesn't mean he is incapable of defeating any of the Kages with ease. The only one who MIGHT have a chance MAYBE is the First. The rest don't have the feats.

However, given your previous statements it's clear that you're just a demented fanboy who doesn't want to admit that Minato is anything less than omnipotent. Being that this is the case, I win, you lose, begone foul spawn of Satan.

Miles Edgeworth
07-25-2010, 10:04 AM
Killer Bee doesn't even deserve the amount of thunder jobs he's getting against the 4th Hokage. Minato and Raikage would have been a more even match compared to Bee, Kisame is more than a match for Bee and Kisame is not even well reknowned or kage level.

Bee>>>>>>>>>Raikage. V2 and Hachibi anyone?

Kisame could curbstomp pretty much every Kage at this point, so that statement is moot.

Now that deserves a hefty amount of figiggle brains. A slammed into a wall at the sight of Uchiha Madara, while the 4th not only faced the man but stole his Demon from him and gave it to his son as a birthday gift, "Hey son here's the Kyuubi's soul I hope you like it.."

You do realize all of that stuff the 4th did was, you know, off screen? And he's featless. Also, the point is moot, what the heck is he gonna do against Killer Bee? Dead Demon Consuming Seal? Minato dies too, and that's all assuming Killer Bee doesn't one shot him with Lariat or decapitate him.

How is it trolling to say that Minato is capable of defeating Killer Bee? -__- and for the fact that Minato is more on par with A which was stated in the manga. Not mention the only ones claiming omnipotency of a character is you. I just don't have a cemented grasp of the rules here so I don't know if I can mention manga or not. Minato is somewhat faster than A and A is light speed, one thing faster than light is Time-Space which is up Minato's ally and I'm saying if Minato will make A bleed then how does he lose so badly to Killer Bee?

Killer Bee is physically stronger than him yea but the two Brothers are physically Stronger than just about everyone in the manga or anime. However Minato is not only a Genius but he near single handedly ended the 3rd ninja War. What about that feat. I mean Bee has a Bijuu and his tremndous Skills, but Sasuke is quite the chump infront of the Kage's his victories are true Plot no jutsu but A annihilated him and gave away his arm willingly and Bee being second best in Kumo but losing to Sasuke just by a sudden gain of hell fire. Don't get me wrong Killer Bee is a awesome character but I dont see him beating any of the Hokages including the 4th one.

Hyperbole, unless I see some feats from Minato he is not superior to Raikage or Bee. LOL at Raikage being light speed. Feats, now.

Yeah Minato with prep stopped it, he won't get prep against Killer Bee. Also, for all we know those ninjas could have been fodder, so that point really doesn't help your argument.

The only reason Bee "lost" to Sasuke was because Sasuke had help and PNJ. Base Bee would have killed Sasuke if it was one-on-one, and then Bee would have killed him again with 3 Tails. When Sasuke finally finished the fight, he got the wrong Bee! In short, throughout the whole thing he failed miserably and the only reason he survived was due to PNJ.

i personally think that minato is faster than killer bee but doesnt have the raw strength to deal with him. ( based on what we know about Minato as of now )

i think it'll be a close call with killer bee taking the win in his jinch. form, even if gamabunta helped out Minato

Prove that Minato is faster than Bee.

Teddie
07-25-2010, 11:00 AM
Can I point out to all you wankers that FTG =/= Speed.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 07:44 PM
Raikage's synapses fire at light speed due to the lighting shroud over him making his movements nearly Light speed so my bad for saying he is light speed if it's inaccurate to you. If facts from a manga off screen or not is irrelevant and everything about him is irrelevant. Then who is given which character omnipotency I don't get the logic. Raikage dashed full speed into Uchiha Madara missed completely, Minato dashed full speed into Madara caught him completely and attacked him 3 different ways in one move. Minato has controlled the chakra of the Kyuubi from bursting out of his pregnant wife. Minato moves within Space-Time faster than humanly possible, faster than muscles, lightening and neural synapses. Minato base speed is fast enough to snatch his newborn baby out of the air from Uchiha Madara who by the way was nearly on par with Shodai hokage, and peel his son out of a blanket of exploding tags while dodging the explosion 99%.

Minato warped the Kyuubi's death ball miles from it's mark, mind you the Kyuubi being superior to the Hachibi. Minato can seal chakra away and seal off chakra connections even between a human and a bijuu. This isn't fanboying by the way, fanboying is dubbing a character magnificent without stating anything further like you all been doing. I'm being logical for Minato's end since everyone thinks a Jonin from Kumo can wipe the floor with the Yondaime Hokage. Oh and Minato has areas with random kunai placed around the Fire Country that he can teleport to and he can write the symbols for the Hirashin on ones skin teleporting to their body. Those are feats? Or is that all irrelevant to this fight? And this is small sum of Minato since no one really knows anything about him compared to most other characters like Bee.

Miles Edgeworth
07-25-2010, 07:53 PM
Raikage's synapses fire at light speed due to the lighting shroud over him making his movements nearly Light speed so my bad for saying he is light speed if it's inaccurate to you. If facts from a manga off screen or not is irrelevant and the everything about him is irrelevant. Then who is given which character omnipotency I don't get the logic. A dashed full speed into Uchiha Madara missed completely, Minato dashed full speed into Madara caught him completely and attacked him 3 different ways in one move. Minato has controlled the chakra of the Kyuubi from bursting out of his pregnant wife. Minato moves within Space-Time faster than humanly possible, faster than muscles, lightening and neural synapses. Minato base speed is fast enough to snatch his newborn baby out of the air from Uchiha Madara who by the way was nearly on par with Shodai hokage, and peel his son out of a blanket of exploding tags while dodging the explosion 99%.

Minato warped the Kyuubi's death ball miles from it's mark, mind you the Kyuubi being superior to the Hachibi. Minato can seal chakra away chakra connections even between a human and a bijuu. This isn't fanboying by the way, fanboying is dubbing a character magnificent without stating anything further like you all been doing. I'm being logical for Minato's end since everyone thinks a Jonin from Kumo can wipe the floor with the Yondaime Hokage. Oh and Minato has areas with random kunai that he can teleport to and he can write the symbols for the Hirashin on ones skin teleporting to their body. Those are feats? Or is that all irrelevant to this fight? And this is small sum of Minato since no one really knows anything about compared to most other characters like Bee.

Since when does lightning aura give any proof of light speed? Is every lightning jutsu in the series light speed now?

Except that's Madara from around 15 years behind the current series who is practically as featless as Minato is.

Flying Thunder God requires seals that neither Raikage nor Killer Bee would be so slow and stupid as to allow Minato to actually set up mid-fight.

Hashirama is a featless wonder who relies on hype, like many other ancient Naruto characters. Also, Madara was far from his prime as he was when he fought Hashirama.

He was able to warp the chakra blast because Kyuubi took so freaking long to charge that thing, it's not exactly much of a feat since Kyuubi was just standing there charging his lazah.

How are we being fanboys to Killer Bee? There is no way Minato can possibly kill Bee, and he lacks the durability necessary to come close to tanking any of his attacks.

Again, rank is trash evidence, Bee is casual Kage level, in no way can any of the current Kages compare to Bee's full power. Kakashi isn't Hokage, does that mean that any Hokage can beat him? If you honestly think so you need to get back to the manga.

Those seals aren't going to do any good if Minato can't set them up, and unless some sort of retarded wank comes up, he's not given prep time for them. If Minato tried to set up a good amount of seals rather than focus on his opponent, he would be Lariated, GG Minato.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 08:23 PM
Look at that a pure feat in your face and you say it's no good because the Kyuubi was taking long lol the amount of time it took Kyuubi to launch that is purely subjective to us it looked like 3secs to that world it could have broke the sound barrier..oh it did break it, notice the shock waves. That' s not fact that's pure biased against Minato I can understand it because some people thunder job him so much He looks dookie. But Minato Tanked the Kyuubi's Death Ball which is the Hachibi's most powerful Attack, Bee's most powerful attack.

It's also irrelevant that Madara is past his prime since he's even older and more crippled in the present timeline where he easily Mocked A's speed making him fly into a wall. Minato knew it was Madara within 10mins and not only rasengan'ed him and made his body a FTG temple but he also Tore the Kyuubi from him and sliced his Hand off in one move. Bee was faster than Sasuke but not by miles, until he unlocked the Hachibi then he was super sonic. Howvever Minato is faster than Bee and no amount of muscle and lightening can beat Space-Time which Minato can do by just drawing it with his fingers with peripheral speed greater than Immortal Uchiha with a EMS. Base Speed faster than the speed of Sound since he escaped an explosion on his child without a Hirashin.

Miles Edgeworth
07-25-2010, 08:27 PM
Look at that a pure feat in your face and you say it's no good because the Kyuubi was taking long lol the amount of time it took Kyuubi to launch that is purely subjective to us it looked like 3secs to that world it could have broke the sound barrier..oh it did break it, notice the shock waves. That' s not fact that's pure biased against Minato I can understand it because some people thunder job him so much He looks dookie. But Minato Tanked the Kyuubi's Death Ball which is the Hachibi's most powerful Attack, Bee's most powerful attack.

How in the world is that a reasonable feat, it proves Minato was able to warp a Kyuubi solely focused on charging his laser and not doing anything else, if Kyuubi was just going crazy attacking him instead of being a sitting duck, Minato would not have gotten that chance.

So do you have any proof it was truly that fast?

How is that bias against Minato, you simply haven't proven Minato has anything to kill Bee and are trying to use these "feats" that don't help him in the slightest against Bee.

Lol, when in the world did he tank it? He warped it away, he NEVER tanked the Menacing Ball.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 08:39 PM
It's amazing how Lycaon19 can write all those words without single shred of factual accuracy in them. It takes real dedication to troll that hard.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 09:21 PM
What is opinion and untrue in what I said? I mean this place looks like a awesome forum so instead of calling troll for no good reason, tell me or show me what a debate between a battle looks like. Since Bee raping Sauske makes him automatically rape the 4th tell me how?

My Proof for it being that fast is purely visual within the Manga as shock waves and breaking sound barriers were all over the art. Even 4 tailed Naruto's Menacing Ball was going at like mach 3.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 09:36 PM
What is opinion and untrue in what I said?You mean aside from all of it?


so instead of calling troll for no good reason


I never call anyone a troll for no good reason. If I call you a troll it's because you're trolling.

Since Bee raping Sauske makes him automatically rape the 4th tell me how?

Sasuke's got better speed feats than Minato. Which is to say he has speed feats period. Minato has like, one speed feat and Sasuke's feats take a big smelly dump on it. Bee raped Sasuke in base.


My Proof for it being that fast is purely visual within the Manga as shock waves and breaking sound barriers were all over the art.

Your proof is that you think things look supersonic? Hate to break it to you, but what you think things look like does not count as proof. Just ask Lady Tsunade about the 100 meter Katsuyu debacle.

Now unless you have any real proof to offer, begone vile spawn of Satan and darken these forums with your wank no longer.

Even 4 tailed Naruto's Menacing Ball was going at like mach 3. Prove it. Faillure to do so with your next post will be regarded as an admission of trolling. Thank you and have a nice day. :)

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Well I can tell your pure dookie as a member of this forum your whole post was a big Troll in definition exactly. Saying Sasuke dumps all over anything related to the 4th is almost spam. lol.

You can't think things are Super Sonic if the object being thrown or launched broke the sound barrier twice, because those rings around the Menacing Ball are shockwaves those appear when something pierces the sound barrier, logic can make this debate much more interesting.

But seriously what I want is your's or anyones proof in how Bee can defeat Minato so completely without Minato even being considered a ninja beside the Kumo man. Like atleast a slightly thought out scenario that is fair.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 09:43 PM
I accept your concession and your admission of trolling. Go away now, you've lost.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 09:55 PM
Prove it, all I see is spam on your end and using concession erroneously. Tell me how Killer Bee annihilates Minato like he's an academy student.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 10:08 PM
I'm glad you agree that Minato can't win.

Lycaon19
07-25-2010, 10:30 PM
My vote. Minato can solo bee and annihilate him within 2 moves.

Nyruss
07-25-2010, 10:35 PM
Why yes, I am quite brilliant and incredibly sexy, thank you for noticing. And you're right that Minato has no chance of winning whatsoever.

Sai9497
07-25-2010, 11:44 PM
Okay at this point Killer Bee would win, as everyone is saying. Mainly because KB has a huge amount of experience. KB has been fighting for twice as long as Minato has. Meaning KB has been able to learn many more things then Minato and has had more training time, meaning that he has had time to gain more strength. Another thing is, is that KB is able to control his Jinchuuriki perfectly. Meaning that he is practically unbeatable.
If we end up learning more of Minato's techniques, then he may have a chance against him.
Another thing is Minato is extremely smart. He could probably devise a plan or something to give him a chance of not dying in .001 seconds.
But I'm gonna say my answer is undetermind for number 1 and say KB wins number 2

gama-sennin
07-25-2010, 11:58 PM
Currently Minato has shown only two feats

1. He is extremely smart
2. He is good enough to teleport twice and make a seal at the same time and hit Madara/Tobi thereby forcing him to release the fox.

But that particular battle was based on speed and nothing else. Tobi has not shown any attacking jutsus other than the weird space/time one. In case of Killer Bee it wont be as simple as that. He has one of the best offensive jutsus in the form of Larient and Minato has not(sadly) shown any tanking powers to overcome the damage caused by a Larient. Until Minato shows any more feats(which probably will never happen) it is not possible for him to survive against someone like KB.

Keller Bee wins in both cases.

Lycaon19
07-26-2010, 12:57 AM
I think the Rasengan has shown to Tank people very well. Now imagine some phantom time skip rasengan. Bee and Minato are from the same generation but Minato made it to Hokage when Bee was most likely not as powerful as he is currently than he was 16yrs ago. Bee can Lariat him but Minato is too fast normally to catch, Madara silently slipped threw Space-Time and anyone would have gotten their head cut off or their baby exploded, but Minato out ran an explosion.

Nyruss
07-26-2010, 01:02 AM
You're right, Bee is superior to Minato in every way, and you're quite correct when you say that to suggest that Minato could ever beat him is ridiculous and idiotic.

gama-sennin
07-26-2010, 01:02 AM
I think the Rasengan has shown to Tank people very well. Now imagine some phantom time skip rasengan. Bee and Minato are from the same generation but Minato made it to Hokage when Bee was most likely not as powerful as he is currently than he was 16yrs ago.

We can not IMAGINE anything here. Its BG, only proofs from manga about the stuff that has actually happened in the story is accepted here. Minato may very well be far more powerful than Rikudo sennin(lol), but since it is not proved it can not be accepted.

Sai9497
07-26-2010, 01:08 AM
You're right, Bee is superior to Minato in every way, and you're quite correct when you say that to suggest that Minato could ever beat him is ridiculous and idiotic.

May I ask whom that is aimed towards?

Nyruss
07-26-2010, 01:10 AM
Lycaon19, of course. His lengthy speeches about Minato's inability to ever defeat Killer Bee are quite informative and factual.

Lycaon19
07-26-2010, 01:21 AM
Imagine was sarcasm, since phantom rasengan no justsu was done in the manga to Madara.

Vivi
07-26-2010, 02:21 AM
I just like to point out that Minato hasnt got any Durabilty Feats that show he can withstand a Lariat.

Claiming he can win this fight untouched is more than farfetched.

Good luck in proving Minato having any Durabilty Feats that prove he can withstand one.

SimpleGenin
07-26-2010, 03:56 AM
i agree that people looks down on minato in some ways but its due to the fact that we havent seen much of his feats yet.. i understand that in this forum, you need feats in order to argue which i dont agree 100% with. i try to mix feats along with how the character is portraited in the manga.. in this fight i think Bee would win simply because we havent seen any move from minato that can severely damage Bee.. Do u really think a rasengan from Minato is enough to kill Bee knowing that his a jinch..? i personally don think so

Lycaon19
07-26-2010, 08:29 AM
Minato's wife is a Jinchuuriki as well and her seal almost breaking with the Kyuubi forcing it open was handled by Minato alone, he was stopping the Kyuubi from taking control and he teleported the Kyuubi's Menacing Ball out of the area. Saying Minato cannot have flying thunder god because he wont have Kunai is like saying Bee can't have Lariat because he left his swords at home. Minato can litterally write the symbol on Bee's back then watch him transform into his jinchuuriki forms and hirashin the menacing ball making it explode on Bee himself. Minato's base speed is much faster than Madara's reaction time or speed, and Madara's reaction time is faster than Raikage's. Minato has no durability feats but the little that was shown in the last 3 chapters shows this guy wouldn't just pass out at the sight of Killer Bee.

Nyruss
07-26-2010, 09:42 AM
Minato's wife is a Jinchuuriki as well and her seal almost breaking with the Kyuubi forcing it open was handled by Minato alone


Irrelevant.


, he was stopping the Kyuubi from taking control and he teleported the Kyuubi's Menacing Ball out of the area


Irrelevant.


Saying Minato cannot have flying thunder god because he wont have Kunai is like saying Bee can't have Lariat because he left his swords at home


He can use Flying Thunder God till he's blue in the face, but since he doesn't have any seals set up there's nowhere he can teleport to other than to his kunai. And since he'll be dead before he can process the thought of how much you're wanking him, the kunai are a non-factor, meaning FTG is a non-factor.


Minato can litterally write the symbol on Bee's back


Not fast enough, be dead long before he gets the idea.


Minato's base speed is much faster than Madara's reaction time or speed,


Prove it.


Madara's reaction time is faster than Raikage's.


Prove it. Being able to avoid the Raikage's attack BECAUSE HE WAS &$(&^*(& intangible is not a reaction feat.

Minato has no durability feats but the little that was shown in the last 3 chapters shows this guy wouldn't just pass out at the sight of Killer Bee.

That's fine, he'll be dead the second the fight starts anyway.

Nagato-sama
07-29-2010, 10:55 AM
Minato. Don't be stu......

Kuromaki
07-29-2010, 11:02 AM
Minato. Don't be stu......
Don't call people stupid. Especially since Killer Bee wins going by what's been shown of their abilities.

But okay. How does Minato win?

Akatsuki X
07-29-2010, 11:20 AM
My god,
it's like an ocean full of wank on this thread.

Where's firsty?

Someone needs to lock this before it gets more out of hand.

Sorry to say to all you wanks out there but Killerbee rapes in every scenario imaginable.

Kuromaki
07-29-2010, 11:24 AM
I'll lock it.

Edit: Wait I don't know how to lock a thread :lol: fail

Edit2: I locked it now.

Akatsuki X
07-29-2010, 11:26 AM
It's fine, I'm getting First Hokage to now.