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Mr. Dr.
07-06-2010, 01:47 PM
Team 7

Naruto-
Up to 4-tails can be summoned at will
No Menacing Balls (chakra arms are allowed)
No FRS (but regular RS, rasenrengan, and super great rasengan)
No Sage Art: Super Great Ball Spiralling Large Group Spheres

Sasuke-
No Susanoo Arrows
Kage Level Strength Can Break Susanoo Ribs (A, SM)
He can use plumes of Amatersu but can't simply look at someone and set them on fire.

Kakashi-
No Kamui

Sakura-
She can use all of her abilities
She gets buffed speed equivalent to Asura Path's





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Random Group-

Killer Bee-
He has Samehada and 7 Lightning Blades

Itachi-
Perfect Susanoo but can only be held for 300 seconds
Everyone has full knowledge of his Tsukyomi abilites
He can use plumes of Amatersu but can't simply look at someone and set them on fire.

Might Guy-
Up to 6 Gates but afterwards is immobolized

Asura Path-
He can use all of his abilities















Starting Distance: 50 meters
Battleground: Akatsuki Hideout where Sasori Fight Occurred
Weather: Raining
Time of Day: Noon

Miles Edgeworth
07-06-2010, 02:05 PM
I'd say the Random Group takes this.

Naruto is severely limited and his best attacks are restricted. In short, none of his attacks will be enough to do much damage to the opposing team.

Sasuke is honestly the only threat because of genjutsu and his variety of abilities. Even with increased strength though, he can be fought off since Asura has a lot of strength, Itachi is basically a superior Sasuke, Guy has extreme speed, and Bee can use Hachibi mode.

Without Kamui Kakashi won't do too well, he could fight off Asura in his original fight but he had trouble taking him down. With three other fighters he'll have a difficult time.

Even with boosted speed, Sakura is basically a poor man's version of Asura in this scenario. Since everybody else in that team could most likely keep up with Asura's speed to an extent, Sakura won't be a huge threat and can be killed from long range.

I'd say the Random Group takes this with the restrictions listed.

Mr. Dr.
07-06-2010, 02:17 PM
Remember that Naruto still has SM and rasenrengan, regular rasenshuriken, and super great ball rasengan along with frog kata and sonic roars.

Sasuke still has Kirin

But that was a very good analysis

Miles Edgeworth
07-06-2010, 02:23 PM
Remember that Naruto still has SM and rasenrengan, regular rasenshuriken, and super great ball rasengan along with frog kata and sonic roars.

Sasuke still has Kirin

But that was a very good analysis

Even with SM it'd be pretty hard for him to do much to the opponents he has. He would have to buy time for prep to actually activate SM and his best techniques are restricted. He has some good ones but with his opponents being Killer Bee, Itachi, Guy, and Asura, he'll have his hands full.

If he goes into KN4, chances are he'd do worse than in Sage Mode. While his roars are quite potent, KN4 was fighting pretty evenly with Orochimaru, who I would bet is not as strong as the four on this team. Well actually Oro>Guy most likely, although Guy using the gates would most likely be just as deadly in this battle.

Kirin is a powerful technique but requires immense prep, more so than Sasuke would be given against these opponents.

Why thank you. :D

Nyruss
07-06-2010, 02:38 PM
In what universe do Sucknade and Suckura have Kage level strength?


Asura solos with Laser Explosion.

Mr. Dr.
07-06-2010, 02:51 PM
I agree that it would be a tough fight and Random Group would win.

1. Naruto goes Sage Mode.

2. Killer Bee heads straight to Version 2 since he knows it's going to be a tough fight.

3. Sasuke goes into Susanoo and Amatersu Shield

4. Itachi goes into Susanoo

5. Kakashi sends out lightning hounds.

6. Guy avoids the hounds. 6 Gates takes prep time that Guy doesn't have so he goes on the offensive.

7. Sakura avoids missiles attack and heads straight for Asura

8. Asura lets out onslaught of missiles

9. Killer Bee and Naruto clash. Both of them are currently moving at supersonic speeds. Killer Bee attacks with chakra arms but is deflected by Naruto's rasengans.

10. The two Susanoos clash. Sasuke's is getting pwned. Sasuke uses Chidori spear but is blocked off by the perfect Susanoo. Itachi uses Amatersu and breaks Sasuke's Susanoo. Itachi kills Sasuke with his Susanoo going straight through the Amatersu Shield. Itachi's Susanoo fades. Itachi is exhausted.

11. Kakashi easily watches Guy's movements and catches him in a ligtning blade or a dog summoning and then lightning blade

12. Asura maims Sakura with hidden spinning blades.

13. Killer Bee let's out full eight tails because he's waning. Naruto clashes his Super Great Ball Rasengan with Eight Tails Menacing Ball. Naruto wins but is heavily damaged and all out of Sage Mode.

14. Naruto, Kakashi, Asura, and Itachi are still alive.

15. Itachi takes down Naruto easily with Tsukyomi.

16. Asura attacks Kakashi and he destroys it with a lightning blade.

17. Itachi takes down Kakashi with Shackling Stakes Genjutsu.

18. Itachi falls unconscious after having exhausted his genjutsu, Tsukyomi, Amatersu, and Susanoo. He's still breathing (he has no disease because it wasn't a pre-condition) and so Random Group wins.

In what universe do Sucknade and Suckura have Kage level strength?


Asura solos with Laser Explosion.

Maybe not Sakura but Tsunade surely. (I'm talking about physical strength.)
Laser Explosion doesn't seem like an unavoidable attack.

Nyruss
07-06-2010, 03:08 PM
I really really really really really really really doubt it. Tsunade's punches can't even phase a severely weakened Orochimaru, even when she's hitting as hard as she can. And if you tell me that Orochimaru's durability is greater than Susanoo's, I'll laugh in your face.

Laser Explosion doesn't seem like an unavoidable attack.


Just because it's not unavoidable doesn't mean they can avoid it.

Mr. Dr.
07-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Assuming that laser explosion is a one-shot technique.

1. Asura sprints the 50 meters up to them and takes 5 seconds-ish (2 panels) to prep the explosion. By that time Naruto could already go Sage. So there's no way he would die.
Would Susanoo activate automatically? If so then Sasuke would survive too.
Sakura would die.
Kakashi might die. That one is 50/50.

I'm looking at the manga (chp. 420, pg 18-19) and it doesn't seem like anything stronger than Scythe Weasel and it has yet to be given a ranking.


But it's always the obscure moves that get me.

Nyruss
07-06-2010, 03:35 PM
Show me the durability feats for Naruto's Sage Mode, for Susanoo and for Kakashi that suggest they can take Laser Explosion.

Assuming Naruto even has the time. Sage Mode takes longer than five seconds to activate.

Mr. Dr.
07-06-2010, 03:44 PM
Doesn't he just lay out the scroll and the clone appears and then it disappears and wa-la he's sage mode?


Also, can you prove laser explosion's power?

Regardless it won't end the fight, right? They won't ALL get caught in a one-shot technique that has yet to be shown affecting a person.

Nyruss
07-06-2010, 05:03 PM
Not without prep.

It destroyed multiple buildings. Chapter 420. Trying to claim that the technique is weak based entirely on the fact that it's never been used on a human target is stupid and trollish.

Miles Edgeworth
07-06-2010, 06:38 PM
Iirc, Laser Explosion was at least a small city block buster. I highly doubt any member of Team 7 who is hit by it will come out unscathed, it will do quite some damage.

Akatsuki X
07-08-2010, 01:24 PM
KB just goes Hachibi and blast's team one into oblivion.