Orochimaru vs. Killer Bee

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Speed Equalized. Only one boss summon and one use of full Hachibi transformation are allowed. No V2 Hachibi transformation.

Location: Forest of Death

Starting Range: 50 meters

Other conditions: Both opponents have clear lines of sight to one another at the start, but vision is easily impaired by further movement from the starting positions.

[Tourune]

Been done before. i say Orochimaru and whoever comes next (duedmeister or 1st hokage) will pick Killer Bee.

Anyway i say Orochimaru caz Oro survives any moves KB does in base due to Oral Rebirth. Oro survived 4 tails Naruto so KB's bujii forms aint a problem. KB's biggest threat was meanacing ball + Oro survived it so that's out. and i dont see KB getting through Rashumon. Oro can also use Temparary Paralisis jutsu to hold KB and Off w/ his head

[Lone Wolf]

First time agreeing with Tourune.

[Nyruss]

Killer Bee goes full Hachibi and uses that there mountain buster on Orochimaru, who gets disintegrated. Claiming that Orochimaru can survive it just because he survived an attack from four tailed Naruto with the help of three Rashomon gates(of which he only has access to one this time around) is retarded, and you'd have to prove that 4 tailed Naruto is more powerful than full power Hachibi(which you, you know, can't).

Orochimaru deserves to win because he's a better character, but that doesn't mean he can.

[Tourune]

Killer Bee goes full Hachibi and uses that there mountain buster on Orochimaru, who gets disintegrated. Claiming that Orochimaru can survive it just because he survived an attack from four tailed Naruto with the help of three Rashomon gates(of which he only has access to one this time around) is retarded, and you'd have to prove that 4 tailed Naruto is more powerful than full power Hachibi(which you, you know, can't).

Orochimaru deserves to win because he's a better character, but that doesn't mean he can.
How did i know. Oro survives 3 ways. Oral rebirth. Living courpse rencarnation. and Leach all creation attack preventation jutsu.

[Nyruss]

Oral rebirth. Can't use it. Dead.

Living courpse rencarnationNo one to use it on.Leach all creation attack preventation jutsu.

The ground he's in gets destroyed just as easily as he does. He dies.

[Tourune]

Can't use it. Dead.

No one to use it on.

The ground he's in gets destroyed just as easily as he does. He dies.
i know you really didnt come back... Sugetsu survived it, im sure Oro can... unless your saying Sugetsu > Oro???

[Nyruss]

know you really didnt come back... Sugetsu survived it, im sure Oro can... unless your saying Sugetsu > Oro???

And the award for most idiotic argument of the day goes to Tourune.

Suigetsu survived it due to plot and the fact that he's made of water.

Orochimaru has neither of these benefits. Now, unless you can prove that Orochimaru can survive a mountain busting attack, with something other than your usual wank, Orochimaru dies.

[Tourune]

And the award for most idiotic argument of the day goes to Tourune.

Suigetsu survived it due to plot and the fact that he's made of water.

Orochimaru has neither of these benefits. Now, unless you can prove that Orochimaru can survive a mountain busting attack, with something other than your usual wank, Orochimaru dies.
im not even reasponding. KB dies anyway caz as u ststed in the Sai + Choji vs. Kiba + Neji i said Choji will use his pills at first + u said Choji doesnt always do that first... Does KB always go full Hachibi? + if u say he does then Proof please.

[Nyruss]

It doesn't matter because at some point Killer Bee is going to decide to use it, and since Orochimaru can't actually do anything to hurt him between the start of the fight and when he does, on account of Killer Bee being faster, stronger and more durable, he rapes

[Tourune]

It doesn't matter because at some point Killer Bee is going to decide to use it, and since Orochimaru can't actually do anything to hurt him between the start of the fight and when he does, on account of Killer Bee being faster, stronger and more durable, he rapes
Living Corpse Reincarnation beggs to differ. Equal speed. KB's not a Saninn. He cant survive everything

[Nyruss]

Living Corpse Reincarnation beggs to differ.

Prove it will work on a Jinchuriki. While you're at it, prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.

KB's not a Saninn. Irrelevant.

He cant survive everything

H doesn't need to, just anything Orochimaru can throw at him.

[Tourune]

Prove it will work on a Jinchuriki. While you're at it, prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.

Irrelevant.



H doesn't need to, just anything Orochimaru can throw at him.
He will uae it another way While in this giant snake form, the smaller snakes that composes Orochimaru's body can extend themselves to strike and bind the targets. If Orochimaru is sliced to pieces, the body simply can reform, making him very difficult to kill. The blood that is released is also poisonous, evaporating into the air and paralyzing anyone who has breathed it in. KB will survive 8 Brancehs Tech.???

[Nyruss]

He will uae it another way
Prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.

KB will survive 8 Brancehs Tech.???

A better question is, is 8 Branches tech fast enough to hit him?

[Tourune]

Prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.



A better question is, is 8 Branches tech fast enough to hit him?
he used it in a second by jumping out of his mouth... no prep needed.

W/ equal speed.....Yes

[Nyruss]

he used it in a second by jumping out of his mouth... no prep neededhe used it in a second by jumping out of his mouth... no prep needed

You claimed he would use Living Corpse Reincarnation to turn into a giant snake made up of smaller snakes. The only time he's ever done this was in his fight against Sasuke when he was preparing to absorb the Sauce before the Sauce turned on him.

So prove he can do so without extensive prep and prove he is likely to do so at all.



W/ equal speed.....Yes
Speed equal only applies in base. Speed increases are fair game. KB uses three or four tails.

Alternately, when faced with a gargantuan enemy, he will respond in kind, ultimately leading to instant victory via mountain buster.

[[Shikamaru]]

Killer Bee stomps.

Equalized speed or not, excelled sharingan couldn't even dodge Killer Bee's style.

It's the strongest taijutsu shown thus far.

He'll simply cut through Orochimaru.

The only counter I see is massive shadow snake summon, but Bee can counter that with his tailed beast.

[Toad Master]

Why do you have to prove, he will use it?
this is a battle ground fight not a fight in the anime.
you give reasons why you think one would win, you dont need proof he will use it.
Once you give a reason its the other debaters turn to counter and give a reason why there pick will live thru the attack.

like this:
I say orochimaru summons 1st & 2sn Hokagem then you replie about how you think Killerbee can kill the dead ninja's.

1st Hokage would trap Full Hachibi in the wood jutsu then force Killerbee out of it with his special jutsu he has for tailed beast.

Orochimaru Summons Boos Snake, since Killerbee isn't allowed back into full Hachibi what does he have to stop the boss snake.

Once Killerbee is forced out of full Hachibi, 1st hokage traps him again in his wood jutsu, then Orochimaru uses 5 elements seal making it where Killerbee cant use chakra.

Orochimaru rapes this fight anyway you look at it, and no I dont have to prove he will use it in my vision of the battle, its your job to prove killerbee can live.

[Nyruss]

Why do you have to prove, he will use it?
this is a battle ground fight not a fight in the anime.
you give reasons why you think one would win, you dont need proof he will use it.



Translation: You can't prove it and are trying to avoid the issue by whining about how it's unfair because it means that your favorite character can't win.


I say orochimaru summons 1st & 2sn Hokagem then you replie about how you think Killerbee can kill the dead ninja's.



He needs prep time to use Impure World Ressurection. Meaning that he won't be doing this.


Orochimaru Summons Boos Snake, since Killerbee isn't allowed back into full Hachibi what does he have to stop the boss snake.



You may want to check again. He is limited to only one use, which is fine because one is all he needs.


Once Killerbee is forced out of full Hachibi, 1st hokage traps him again in his wood jutsu, then Orochimaru uses 5 elements seal making it where Killerbee cant use chakra


Orochimaru will be dead long before he uses that seal. It goes without saying that the First Hokage isn't even there.

Orochimaru gets raped in this fight anyway you look at it Indeed.

Also, I'm a whiny fanboy who couldn't debate if my life depended on it and can do nothing but wank because I have nothing solid to bring to the table. If only I had actual talent like that incredibly awesome guy, Dudemeister.


I welcome your compliments, but you shouldn't speak so harshly of yourself in such a manner, accurate though it may be.

[Toad Master]

Translation: You can't prove it and are trying to avoid the issue by whining about how it's unfair because it means that your favorite character can't win.



He needs prep time to use Impure World Ressurection. Meaning that he won't be doing this.



You may want to check again. He is limited to only one use, which is fine because one is all he needs.



Orochimaru will be dead long before he uses that seal. It goes without saying that the First Hokage isn't even there.

Indeed.



I welcome your compliments, but you shouldn't speak so harshly of yourself in such a manner, accurate though it may be.


It doesnt state in the OP, NO Prep time. So, Orochimaru is allowed to use it.

[Nyruss]

It doesnt state in the OP, NO Prep time. So, Orochimaru is allowed to use it
Doesn't work that way. Unless the OP specifically says "Orochimaru has prep time" he doesn't get prep time. So no, he can't use it.

[Toad Master]

Doesn't work that way. Unless the OP specifically says "Orochimaru has prep time" he doesn't get prep time. So no, he can't use it.


Where in the BG rules does it state OP must specifically say Prep time?
it doesnt, meaning any jutsu is allowed to be used, unless OP says it cant be used.

[Nyruss]

Orochimaru doesn't get prep unless the thread starter says he does. He can use Impure World Ressurection all he likes but without any bodies prepared beforehand it's as useless as you are.

[Toad Master]

Orochimaru doesn't get prep unless the thread starter says he does. He can use Impure World Ressurection all he likes but without any bodies prepared beforehand it's as useless as you are.


Show me where the BG states no prep time unless OP states it?
unless you can show me in the rules where it states that Orochimaru can use it. Plus Orochimaru has a full prison of prisoners he can use.

[Nyruss]

Show me where the BG states that prep time is allowed unless the OP states it?
unless you can show me in the rules where it states that Orochimaru can't use it. Plus Orochimaru's full prison of prisoners are in another country, well outside the boundaries of the jutsu's limit and he is therefore incapable of using them.

[Tourune]

Killer Bee goes full Hachibi and uses that there mountain buster on Orochimaru, who gets disintegrated. Claiming that Orochimaru can survive it just because he survived an attack from four tailed Naruto with the help of three Rashomon gates(of which he only has access to one this time around) is retarded, and you'd have to prove that 4 tailed Naruto is more powerful than full power Hachibi(which you, you know, can't).

Orochimaru deserves to win because he's a better character, but that doesn't mean he can.

Can't use it. Dead.

No one to use it on.

The ground he's in gets destroyed just as easily as he does. He dies.

And the award for most idiotic argument of the day goes to Tourune.

Suigetsu survived it due to plot and the fact that he's made of water.

Orochimaru has neither of these benefits. Now, unless you can prove that Orochimaru can survive a mountain busting attack, with something other than your usual wank, Orochimaru dies.

It doesn't matter because at some point Killer Bee is going to decide to use it, and since Orochimaru can't actually do anything to hurt him between the start of the fight and when he does, on account of Killer Bee being faster, stronger and more durable, he rapes

Prove it will work on a Jinchuriki. While you're at it, prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.

Irrelevant.



H doesn't need to, just anything Orochimaru can throw at him.

Prove he can use it without extensive prep. Also prove he will use it at all.



A better question is, is 8 Branches tech fast enough to hit him?

You claimed he would use Living Corpse Reincarnation to turn into a giant snake made up of smaller snakes. The only time he's ever done this was in his fight against Sasuke when he was preparing to absorb the Sauce before the Sauce turned on him.

So prove he can do so without extensive prep and prove he is likely to do so at all.


Speed equal only applies in base. Speed increases are fair game. KB uses three or four tails.

Alternately, when faced with a gargantuan enemy, he will respond in kind, ultimately leading to instant victory via mountain buster.

Translation: You can't prove it and are trying to avoid the issue by whining about how it's unfair because it means that your favorite character can't win.



He needs prep time to use Impure World Ressurection. Meaning that he won't be doing this.



You may want to check again. He is limited to only one use, which is fine because one is all he needs.



Orochimaru will be dead long before he uses that seal. It goes without saying that the First Hokage isn't even there.

Indeed.



I welcome your compliments, but you shouldn't speak so harshly of yourself in such a manner, accurate though it may be.

;3300898']Killer Bee stomps.

Equalized speed or not, excelled sharingan couldn't even dodge Killer Bee's style.

It's the strongest taijutsu shown thus far.

He'll simply cut through Orochimaru.

The only counter I see is massive shadow snake summon, but Bee can counter that with his tailed beast.
o i forgot all about Hydra, that kills Killer Bee.

[Akatsuki X]

o i forgot all about Hydra, that kills Killer Bee.

Not if Bee is obliterating Orochimaru via Menacing Ball.

[Tourune]

Not if Bee is obliterating Orochimaru via Menacing Ball.

which then Oro uses triple Rasenshomon to dodge

[Nyruss]

1: He's only allowed one boss level summon. That means no three Rashomon summon.
2: Hachibi > 4tail Naruto. Orochimaru barely survived an attack from KN4 even with Triple Rashomon, so he dies either way.

[tanduhman]

1: He's only allowed one boss level summon. That means no three Rashomon summon.
2: Hachibi > 4tail Naruto. Orochimaru barely survived an attack from KN4 even with Triple Rashomon, so he dies either way.
AND AGAIN dudemeister is right.. wow your on a role dudemeister im impressed rlly.

one rashomon gate isnt going to block a mountain busting menacing ball. therefor orochimaru is dead. In full hachibi form KB is by far to powerfull

[Akatsuki X]

AND AGAIN dudemeister is right.. wow your on a role dudemeister im impressed rlly.

one rashomon gate isnt going to block a mountain busting menacing ball. therefor orochimaru is dead. In full hachibi form KB is by far to powerfull

If you knew Dudemeister, then you would know that he's barely even trying in this thread

[NarutoUzumaki12]

orochimaru wins

cuz if he can take a hit from 4 tails Naruto he can survive against killer bee

[tanduhman]

If you knew Dudemeister, then you would know that he's barely even trying in this thread
oh i know hes not trying.. im just making it apparent that hes right yet again.

[Akatsuki X]

orochimaru wins

cuz if he can take a hit from 4 tails Naruto he can survive against killer bee

I hope your not serious.

Orochimaru barely survived a 4-taied menacing ball because he summoned the Rashomon Gates.

4-tailed menacing ball is like a multi-coty block buster.

8-Tails menacing ball is a mountain buster.