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Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Field: a grassy plian with four trees a small lake and tones of boulders.

Limitations: Sasuke can only use his first stage Sharigian and Naruto can use Ragengan once

so who will win this one

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 06:47 PM
If Naruto can only use Rasengan once and Sasuke only first stage. Hidan and Kakuzu win.

Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 06:54 PM
If Naruto can only use Rasengan once and Sasuke only first stage. Hidan and Kakuzu win.
hmm but cant sasuke trap both of them in his shargian then naruto can hi them with omgea rassegan while thier stunded?

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 06:55 PM
hmm but cant sasuke trap both of them in his shargian then naruto can hi them with omgea rassegan while thier stunded?
By Sharingan first stage what do you mean?

Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 06:57 PM
cant go into his mandegoy ( im also talking about sasuke after he killed itachi) so that mean no amerstua or h/e u spelll it XD

sharingan7744
05-06-2010, 06:59 PM
I don't think naruto and sasuke would win because if hidan uses the curse jutsu thing on naruto or vice versa i don't think they don't work well enough together to cope with the situation haha

Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 07:03 PM
ahh i see. but what if hidan cant get close to sasuke or hit naruto because oof his advancement in the use of shadowclones

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 07:05 PM
I don't think naruto and sasuke would win because if hidan uses the curse jutsu thing on naruto or vice versa i don't think they don't work well enough together to cope with the situation haha
Hidan is close range so he couldnt get sasuke due to sasukes speed as for Naruto all he has to do is Sage Mode and his speed increases too. Sasuke can use his Sharingan to get close to Hidan and try to cut his head, but they also have to worry about Kakuzu. Unless Sasuke uses his Kirin with Naruto out of range. Bye bye Kakuzu. Then SM Naruto and Sasuke vs. Hidan

@Shino Hatake. Oh....ok

Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 07:14 PM
very nice i was thinking of it like that but i whhould wonder how far naruto would have to get away. behide him maybe. but if sasuke dose get close and hidan get a hit then sasuke uses chordi and then its game there. or if naruto uses sage mode and fights kakuzu then sasuke fights hidan. always a way to go about it . HMMM

@. MS yeah i forgot to say that so it leves out a big cunck of the fights predictions.@

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 07:18 PM
very nice i was thinking of it like that but i whhould wonder how far naruto would have to get away. behide him maybe. but if sasuke dose get close and hidan get a hit then sasuke uses chordi and then its game there. or if naruto uses sage mode and fights kakuzu then sasuke fights hidan. always a way to go about it . HMMM

@. MS yeah i forgot to say that so it leves out a big cunck of the fights predictions.@
Ya, but you have to remeber Hidans Immortal. So they'll have to cut his head off.

Shino Hatake
05-06-2010, 07:23 PM
lol that is what everyone says. i wonder if ur imortoal then when ur stabed in ur heart and all ur organs if ur still avlive. and when u bleed out if u are still a living coprpse. THAT WOULD SUCK

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 07:27 PM
Ya that would. Anyways Sasuke and Naruto win. (My opinion)

Phoenix Wright
05-06-2010, 07:47 PM
Sasuke blitzes and cuts Hidan's head off, he should have no problem killing, err, blitzing Kakuzu before that and destroying his hearts.

Mangekyou Sasuke
05-06-2010, 07:48 PM
Well...I dont think he can take them on by himself

Phoenix Wright
05-06-2010, 07:55 PM
Yeah, he probably could, Kakuzu nor Hidan has shown speed feats that keep up with Sasuke's current ones.

O_O

Holy crap, I don't call him Saucegay by instinct anymore! Could this mean....?!

e710
05-06-2010, 07:55 PM
Well...I dont think he can take them on by himself

Yes, yes he can. Sasuke had c2 back then so after Sasuke blitzs Hidan I don't think Kakuzu is a probablem at all because chidori and him fling in c2 Sasuke could kill the threads fairly easy. Also Sasuke had Manda and Sasuke could use Kirin if he was bloodlusted and if Kakuzu and Hidan were close together. So Sasuke has no trouble whatsoever.

Akatsuki X
05-07-2010, 05:10 AM
Are we forgetting something?

SM?

tailed forms?

Curse Mark?

even if Naruto can't use rasengan more then once,
or Sasuke can't use his MS

they win with ease

Noctis Arashi
05-07-2010, 05:14 AM
Are we forgetting something?

SM?

tailed forms?

Curse Mark?

even if Naruto can't use rasengan more then once,
or Sasuke can't use his MS

they win with ease

THANK YOU!!!!!!

Naruto goes sage mode blitzes and wins by himself......
OR Tailed forms.

Cursed mark would just be over kill.

prasanth
05-08-2010, 01:45 PM
kakuzu solos...

321zigzag1
05-08-2010, 01:49 PM
kakuzu solos...

No. Naruto and Sasuke can defeat Kakuzu by themselves through their additional powerups.

Yellow Flash
05-08-2010, 02:05 PM
Naruto blitzes Kakuzu with RS, immobilizing Kakuzu. Sasuke blitzes Hidan and chops his head off.

SageNarutoPWN
05-08-2010, 02:08 PM
naruto would just use rasen shuriken while Sasuke has them stuck in a genjutsu

prasanth
05-08-2010, 05:08 PM
naruto would just use rasen shuriken while Sasuke has them stuck in a genjutsu

kakuzu wont fall for that trick agen, if he had all his hearts out at the beginning he will kill them right away

FRS wont work against kakuzu's fire heart because fire>wind

Daybreak
05-08-2010, 07:07 PM
kakuzu wont fall for that trick agen, if he had all his hearts out at the beginning he will kill them right away

It didn't say he started with hearts out, therefore he is in base, and therefore gets speedblitzed by sasuke right off the bat. Even if he did start with hearts out sasuke's susano'o>elemental blasts. Then the arrows would own kakuzu. In no way will kakuzu be able to do anything to sasuke. And hidan is just fodder in this fight so i wont even go there.

FRS wont work against kakuzu's fire heart because fire>wind

No. By your logic a lit match>a tornado. Just because you have an elemental advantage over an attack doesn't mean that your attack is stronger. Its like saying a regular futon would be greater than a kirin just because it has an elemetal advantage, which obviosly isnt true. FRS is way too powerful for kakuzu's elemental fire attack to make any difference. Not that it really matters though, because sasuke will end this fight with a speedblitz right off the bat anyway.


In Red.

Phoenix Wright
05-08-2010, 11:45 PM
Daybreak did you just say "it" Didn't say that?! How dare you treat the OP that way, you should be ashamed! xD

Why all this debate though, seriously, I thought I already said that they both blitz.

Now my word alone should convince you all. http://i39.tinypic.com/29gn6yq.gif

Rikudo Sennin
05-08-2010, 11:51 PM
I think Naruto vs Hidan and Kakuzu works.
Duh, ..he defeated pain

Phoenix Wright
05-09-2010, 12:44 AM
Prasanth will just argue and say Kakuzu solos. Kakuzu vs Naruto thread was fail back then, I don't think adding Hidan will change anything.

Also assessing Naruto vs Pain, plot wins FTW, Chibaku Tensei, GG.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 06:50 AM
In Red.

yes i know that, but the sheer size of the fire attack that kakuzu has will beat the FRS, it covers amuch larger scale than the FRS so it wont work

Akatsuki Tsunade
05-09-2010, 08:12 AM
i have to go with the first set only cuz naruto can only use reasgan once and sasuke donest have MKYS

Lady Tsunade
05-09-2010, 08:22 AM
Naruto RS's Kakuzus head off.Sasuke chops Hidan into 1000 pieces of slim Zombie meat. Naruto and Sasuke Stomp.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 08:52 AM
Naruto RS's Kakuzus head off.Sasuke chops Hidan into 1000 pieces of slim Zombie meat. Naruto and Sasuke Stomp.

all hidan needs is a drip of blood, he was all over kakashi when they were fightin in taijutsu so he should be able to get a drop from naruto. sasuke will probs cut his head off but kakuzu can element spam both of them 2 death

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 09:51 AM
If Kakuzu failed to element spam in the beginning shikamaru chouji ino and kakashi to death what makes you think SM Naruto and MS Sasuke who is at least kakashi speed and beyond and who has more hax with them are going to have any problems.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 10:27 AM
If Kakuzu failed to element spam in the beginning shikamaru chouji ino and kakashi to death what makes you think SM Naruto and MS Sasuke who is at least kakashi speed and beyond and who has more hax with them are going to have any problems.

SM naruto takes prep time, and in that time he will most likely die (or get injured) MS sasuke can defend for a while but he will just go blind after spamming with susanoo (like usual)

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 10:29 AM
Pardon me but both sides start full health.

MS Sasuke also used 10 minutes of Susanoo and Amaterasu fine.

Naruto uses Sasuke and clones to enter SM.

They aren't evading Susanoo arrows.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 10:34 AM
Pardon me but both sides start full health.

MS Sasuke also used 10 minutes of Susanoo and Amaterasu fine.

Naruto uses Sasuke and clones to enter SM.

They aren't evading Susanoo arrows.

wait? how do u know he used susanoo for 10 mins :S
Sm takes a while to enter sasuke could get killed by then

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 10:36 AM
It doesn't take that long. Naruto only needs to gather natural energy safe distance and he can use at least 2 clones for that purpose.

Danzo's izanagi took 10 minutes. Confirmed by Karin herself.

1 minute per each eye.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 10:37 AM
It doesn't take that long. Naruto only needs to gather natural energy safe distance and he can use at least 2 clones for that purpose.

Danzo's izanagi took 10 minutes. Confirmed by Karin herself.

1 minute per each eye.

ahh i see, yh sasuke should hold of hidan for a while, but kakuzu can find naruto and kill him

Shino Hatake
05-09-2010, 10:38 AM
um guys. first stage is hes regural 3 tome in this fight MS is forbidden

prasanth
05-09-2010, 10:40 AM
um guys. first stage is hes regural 3 tome in this fight MS is forbidden

oh, without MS sasuke gets it handed it to him quite quickly by kakuzu,

hidan + kakuzu vs naruto without SM is overkill

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 10:40 AM
ahh i see, yh sasuke should hold of hidan for a while, but kakuzu can find naruto and kill him

Sasuke easily kills Hidan with blitz and decapitation.

um guys. first stage is hes regural 3 tome in this fight MS is forbidden

Then genjutsu and he will use Chidori variants on Kakuzu.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 10:43 AM
Sasuke easily kills Hidan with blitz and decapitation.



Then genjutsu and he will use Chidori variants on Kakuzu.

hidan can hold off for a while with his long range scythe
gen is a factor but kakuzu's monsters could get him out of a gen (although it has never been proven)

hidan vs sasuke just using weapons will go on for a while and before that finishes kakuzu will kill naruto

trackstar
05-09-2010, 10:46 AM
Field: a grassy plian with four trees a small lake and tones of boulders.

Limitations: Sasuke can only use his first stage Sharigian and Naruto can use Ragengan once

so who will win this one

hidan can hold off for a while with his long range scythe
gen is a factor but kakuzu's monsters could get him out of a gen (although it has never been proven)

hidan vs sasuke just using weapons will go on for a while and before that finishes kakuzu will kill naruto


Hidan scythe isn't long range even with cable.

Naruto already incapacitated Kakuzu once, I don't see why he can't do it again.

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 10:47 AM
hidan can hold off for a while with his long range scythe
gen is a factor but kakuzu's monsters could get him out of a gen (although it has never been proven)

hidan vs sasuke just using weapons will go on for a while and before that finishes kakuzu will kill naruto

Sasuke's speed decreases Hidan's chance of that and his chidori sword cuts through the scythe then boom Hidan is finished.

If it can thats one thing but Uchiha genjutsu is another.

Also Kakuzu is vulnerable to Sasuke's chidori variants.

Shino Hatake
05-09-2010, 10:55 AM
oh, without MS sasuke gets it handed it to him quite quickly by kakuzu,

hidan + kakuzu vs naruto without SM is overkill
nope he can use gejustu why naruto holds off hidan with clones and SM.

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 10:58 AM
Base Naruto > Hidan

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:17 AM
Sasuke's speed decreases Hidan's chance of that and his chidori sword cuts through the scythe then boom Hidan is finished.

If it can thats one thing but Uchiha genjutsu is another.

Also Kakuzu is vulnerable to Sasuke's chidori variants.

th is true but sauke cant take them both on at once, when hes fighting hidan kakuzu kills naruto

kakuzu vs sasuke can go to ways, wither kakuzu releases his hearts and kills him (also using the wind heart to dispel any chidori variants)

or sasuke goes flying in straight away trying to kill him although kakuzu sing ironskin wont really help sasuke either

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:17 AM
Base Naruto > Hidan

yes lol but hidan being immortal doesnt really help naruto

trackstar
05-09-2010, 11:19 AM
base naruto > kakuzu

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-09-2010, 11:26 AM
Base Naruto > Tendou.

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 11:28 AM
You mean Base Naruto > Weakened Deva Path.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:32 AM
You mean Base Naruto > Weakened Deva Path.

even that is wrong

SM naruto > extremely weakened deva, with low chakra

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:33 AM
base naruto > kakuzu

no, just no...

trackstar
05-09-2010, 11:35 AM
no, just no...

He did it once already, he uses FRS without SM uses clones to distract and boom over for Kakuzu.

Lady Tsunade
05-09-2010, 11:41 AM
ahh i see, yh sasuke should hold of hidan for a while, but kakuzu can find naruto and kill him
Kakuzu has short of no chance in killing anyone. As Zig said, if his Elemental Blasts (which are the only real threat here)were unable to kill Ino,Choji,Shikamaru and Kakashi-how can it possibly hope to defeat Naruto and Sasuke? Especially a SM Naruto and MS Sasuke who can easily hit Kakuzu before he gets to use anything.

SM requires prep ys.prep easily gained through Multi Shadow Clone spam and a MS Sasuke.Hidan can't do crap here.He isn't touching Naruto or Sasuke.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:44 AM
Kakuzu has short of no chance in killing anyone. As Zig said, if his Elemental Blasts (which are the only real threat here)were unable to kill Ino,Choji,Shikamaru and Kakashi-how can it possibly hope to defeat Naruto and Sasuke? Especially a SM Naruto and MS Sasuke who can easily hit Kakuzu before he gets to use anything.

SM requires prep ys.prep easily gained through Multi Shadow Clone spam and a MS Sasuke.Hidan can't do crap here.He isn't touching Naruto or Sasuke.


there is no MS for sasuke and while naruto is gaining natural energy kakuzu kills him then.

also kakuzu not killing any of team 10 (i think) was a PNJ his fire/wind attacks had a HUGE blast radius, anyone would have died if they got caught in it

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:46 AM
He did it once already, he uses FRS without SM uses clones to distract and boom over for Kakuzu.

and what makes you think hes gonna fall for the same trick again? and also FRS also kills 2 and a half hearts, kakuzu was still breathing after he got hit by hit, so he'll still have 2 hearts left

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 11:46 AM
You act like Naruto is a retarded handicapped kid who just stands around and part of chidori variants and genjutsu and speed is irrelevent.

Fire Wind missed because they were out of the dangerous radius. If they can escape it it within distance why not Naruto and Sasuke?

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:50 AM
You act like Naruto is a retarded handicapped kid who just stands around and part of chidori variants and genjutsu and speed is irrelevent.

Fire Wind missed because they were out of the dangerous radius. If they can escape it it within distance why not Naruto and Sasuke?

well for naruto to enter SM he does need to stand around doing nothing

also there were no fire/wind attacks targeted at them only the lightning one (which doesnt have a big radius) was going after shikimaru.
choji and ino were just getting beaten by kakuzu and his threads (no heart monsters)

trackstar
05-09-2010, 11:51 AM
and what makes you think hes gonna fall for the same trick again? and also FRS also kills 2 and a half hearts, kakuzu was still breathing after he got hit by hit, so he'll still have 2 hearts left
Yes he was alive but his chakra network was completely destroyed so no more chakra for kakuzu.

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 11:52 AM
well for naruto to enter SM he does need to stand around doing nothing

also there were no fire/wind attacks targeted at them only the lightning one (which doesnt have a big radius) was going after shikimaru.
choji and ino were just getting beaten by kakuzu and his threads (no heart monsters)

I told you that he can use mass spam of shadow clones to do the trick.
You haven't countered that all.

Lightning was blocked by Kakashi. Sasuke is at the very least Kakashi speed level and will have no trouble dodging it.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:53 AM
I told you that he can use mass spam of shadow clones to do the trick.
You haven't countered that all.

Lightning was blocked by Kakashi. Sasuke is at the very least Kakashi speed level and will have no trouble dodging it.

but how can he do that when hes trying to get into SM?
yes sasuke might be able to dodge the lightning or go up against it, but kakashi only dodged fire/wind because it was only a clone, real one was somewhere else

Lady Tsunade
05-09-2010, 11:55 AM
there is no MS for sasuke and while naruto is gaining natural energy kakuzu kills him then.

also kakuzu not killing any of team 10 (i think) was a PNJ his fire/wind attacks had a HUGE blast radius, anyone would have died if they got caught in it
Oh really?I didn't see the OP update.

Oh and what?We're supposed to just assume that it was definitly PnJ, and without it everyone would've died? Even if it was PnJ, it has shown no evidence of being able to kill Naruto or Sasuke since it couldn't kill Ninja much weaker than them.So regardless, Naruto and Sasuke aren't dying from it.

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 11:58 AM
but how can he do that when hes trying to get into SM?
yes sasuke might be able to dodge the lightning or go up against it, but kakashi only dodged fire/wind because it was only a clone, real one was somewhere else

By making masses of them first. This isn't hard.

That clone thing never happened in the manga. But regardless whether it did or didn't Raiton Gian is faster than fire or the wind one.

Sasuke's speed was hyped to be low top tier speedster. He and his chidori variants and his katons won't have too much trouble with the monsters however Kakuzu is the most vulnerable in base anyway.

Hidan is mostly useless.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 11:59 AM
Oh really?I didn't see the OP update.

Oh and what?We're supposed to just assume that it was definitly PnJ, and without it everyone would've died? Even if it was PnJ, it has shown no evidence of being able to kill Naruto or Sasuke since it couldn't kill Ninja much weaker than them.So regardless, Naruto and Sasuke aren't dying from it.

shikimaru was the only one being attacked by a heart
choji and ino were getting attacked by kakuzu himself and kakashi was begin attacked by hidan.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:01 PM
By making masses of them first. This isn't hard.

That clone thing never happened in the manga. But regardless whether it did or didn't Raiton Gian is faster than fire or the wind one.

Sasuke's speed was hyped to be low top tier speedster. He and his chidori variants and his katons won't have too much trouble with the monsters however Kakuzu is the most vulnerable in base anyway.

Hidan is mostly useless.

clones will get killed by kakuzu as shown already in manga using threads and monsters once absorbed into him.

not quite sure what raiton gian is...

sasuke is fast but he cant dodge attacks that cover a very wide radius like the fire/wind combo

hidan is quite helpful because he can keep pressurising them 2 because one small cut is enough to kill them

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:04 PM
clones will get killed by kakuzu as shown already in manga using threads and monsters once absorbed into him.

not quite sure what raiton gian is...

sasuke is fast but he cant dodge attacks that cover a very wide radius like the fire/wind combo

hidan is quite helpful because he can keep pressurising them 2 because one small cut is enough to kill them

I said Masses of clones. The huge range attacks require handseals.

Raiton Gian is the giant lightning bolt the double one.


Pardon me but Kakashi did. You are just underestimating Sasuke. Also the other three survived it by being far enough.

Hidan still needs to make the ritual thing.


And you aren't factoring in speed and or even genjutsu at all.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:07 PM
I said Masses of clones. The huge range attacks require handseals.

Raiton Gian is the giant lightning bolt the double one.


Pardon me but Kakashi did. You are just underestimating Sasuke. Also the other three survived it by being far enough.

Hidan still needs to make the ritual thing.


And you aren't factoring in speed and or even genjutsu at all.

i dont remeber kakuzu using hand seals...
then fire/wind combo that hit kakashi was a clone, real one was elsewhere
yes hidan needs ritual but all he needs is some blood then he just wins
and as i said before genjutsu may not work on kakuzu because of monsters and sasuke hasnt shown any gen except the MS ones.

speed i agree is a issue here but monsters can cause sasuke enough trouble

trackstar
05-09-2010, 12:09 PM
i dont remeber kakuzu using hand seals...
then fire/wind combo that hit kakashi was a clone, real one was elsewhere
yes hidan needs ritual but all he needs is some blood then he just wins
and as i said before genjutsu may not work on kakuzu because of monsters and sasuke hasnt shown any gen except the MS ones.

speed i agree is a issue here but monsters can cause sasuke enough trouble


He just doesn't need the blood he needs to make the ritual which takes prep which naruto/sasuke won't give.

Daybreak
05-09-2010, 12:10 PM
speed i agree is a issue here but monsters can cause sasuke enough trouble

Let me simplify this for you:

Battle Starts, kakuzu gets speedblitzed and chidori'd multiple times, he dies.

Hidan gets speedblitzed and sasuke chops his head off GG.

Now was that really so hard?

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:11 PM
i dont remeber kakuzu using hand seals...
then fire/wind combo that hit kakashi was a clone, real one was elsewhere
yes hidan needs ritual but all he needs is some blood then he just wins
and as i said before genjutsu may not work on kakuzu because of monsters and sasuke hasnt shown any gen except the MS ones.

speed i agree is a issue here but monsters can cause sasuke enough trouble

In the anime he did. But in the manga he makes like one hand seals at least.

Kishimoto said the characters still do seals he just doesn't draw them.

That wasn't a clone.

Reread Deidara vs Sasuke. It took Deidara's trained left eye to break out of one.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:12 PM
Let me simplify this for you:

Battle Starts, kakuzu gets speedblitzed and chidori'd multiple times, he dies.

Hidan gets speedblitzed and sasuke chops his head off GG.

Now was that really so hard?

not at far distances, kakuzu can just release hearts straight away, his threads help by delaying sasuke as well.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:14 PM
In the anime he did. But in the manga he makes like one hand seals at least.

Kishimoto said the characters still do seals he just doesn't draw them.

That wasn't a clone.

Reread Deidara vs Sasuke. It took Deidara's trained left eye to break out of one.

did you see when kakuzu absorbed the fire and wind hearts into himself and made his thread things longer, noone can go near him.

naruto just landed a FRS after he fooled him, so its likely he wont fall for that again

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:15 PM
Why would he release hearts right away?

Unless he is actually critically injured or loses a heart most likely he won't.

Kakuzu has no manga knowledge.

Daybreak
05-09-2010, 12:18 PM
not at far distances, kakuzu can just release hearts straight away, his threads help by delaying sasuke as well.

Distance was never specified in the OP, meaning default distance is being used, meaning that sasuke blitzes long before kakuzu releases all his masks.

Threads will get owned by chidori, they won't be delaying anything. Sasuke blitzes, slices through threads, and chidori's kakuzu through all of his hearts. GG

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:18 PM
Why would he release hearts right away?

Unless he is actually critically injured or loses a heart most likely he won't.

Kakuzu has no manga knowledge.

to make sure he win? i could ask you, why would sasuke use chidori variants on him straight away?

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:22 PM
Distance was never specified in the OP, meaning default distance is being used, meaning that sasuke blitzes long before kakuzu releases all his masks.

Threads will get owned by chidori, they won't be delaying anything. Sasuke blitzes, slices through threads, and chidori's kakuzu through all of his hearts. GG

sasuke has knowledge of the hearts?
he'll just end up like kakashi, kicked into a tree

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:22 PM
to make sure he win? i could ask you, why would sasuke use chidori variants on him straight away?

Kakuzu in general normally fights with Doton: Domu and threads at first.

Sasuke always starts with speed blitz attempt and his sword and uses chidori variants all the time.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:25 PM
Kakuzu in general normally fights with Doton: Domu and threads at first.

Sasuke always starts with speed blitz attempt and his sword and uses chidori variants all the time.

true but after sasuke thinks hes killed kakuzu, he stands up releases his hearts and kills him using the elemental advantage he has

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:28 PM
Actually since his sword has range he may kill more than one heart with Chidori sword.

Kakuzu takes a little time to release hearts that gives ample time Sasuke to retreat.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 12:34 PM
Actually since his sword has range he may kill more than one heart with Chidori sword.

Kakuzu takes a little time to release hearts that gives ample time Sasuke to retreat.

after he retreats sasuke will be on the defensive until kakuzu stops attacking, and sasuke doesnt know kakuzu has more than 1 heart

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 12:40 PM
Sasuke would realize that the masks are linked somehow. And if Sasuke stabs through the heart lets say in the beginning he will realize it somehow limited wise.

Now if Kakuzu manages to release he can keep Sasuke at bay through elemental blasts. Thats when SM Naruto comes in.

e710
05-09-2010, 12:58 PM
What the hell why is this still being debated if Sasuke could use Chidori stream to blitz both of them. Also there's no prep time so threads have to come out in battle which takes some time. As for Hidan getting blood theres no way he could because he is to slow and a couple of clones using taijutsu could kill them or Gambunta. Also this is Sasuke without MS so he has the white snake and C2 which if Kakuzu by some chance gets his hearts out Sasuke can fly to kill them or Gambunta and Manda.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Sasuke would realize that the masks are linked somehow. And if Sasuke stabs through the heart lets say in the beginning he will realize it somehow limited wise.

Now if Kakuzu manages to release he can keep Sasuke at bay through elemental blasts. Thats when SM Naruto comes in.

but before naruto enters SM hidan would have killed him?

Shino Hatake
05-09-2010, 01:45 PM
LOL no. sasuke uses his 3 tome and puts them both in genjustu. naruto then enters SM and summons Gama and smashes them both

prasanth
05-09-2010, 02:01 PM
LOL no. sasuke uses his 3 tome and puts them both in genjustu. naruto then enters SM and summons Gama and smashes them both

i thought there were no summons? if there are summons then ofc sasuke and naruto win. all they need is gamabunta and manda, if that...

as i said before sasuke hasnt shown any gen without MS

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 02:07 PM
I already told you Sasuke used genjutsu on Deidara without MS.

Anyway Hidan is no trouble for Naruto. Masses of clones will stall him at least.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 02:09 PM
I already told you Sasuke used genjutsu on Deidara without MS.

Anyway Hidan is no trouble for Naruto. Masses of clones will stall him at least.

when? gimme a chapter link

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 02:12 PM
I forget which chapter.

But remember Sasuke was fleeing from Giant Deidara C4.

And Deidara saw Sasuke crumble away from C4? That was genjutsu.

Deidara was only able to escape Sasuke's chidori stab through his Left Eye sharingan genjutsu trained.

prasanth
05-09-2010, 02:19 PM
I forget which chapter.

But remember Sasuke was fleeing from Giant Deidara C4.

And Deidara saw Sasuke crumble away from C4? That was genjutsu.

Deidara was only able to escape Sasuke's chidori stab through his Left Eye sharingan genjutsu trained.

ahh i see, still kakuzu is able to break out of them because the monsters act as seperate entities

321zigzag1
05-09-2010, 02:26 PM
It is unknown if the monsters can do that. Is it possible? Perhaps but of course the monsters have to have the skill to do so.

And here is another problem even if they could Kakuzu has to realize he is one in the first place.

Daybreak
05-09-2010, 03:29 PM
sasuke has knowledge of the hearts?
he'll just end up like kakashi, kicked into a tree

No, but the sharingan is able to see chalkra, which the hearts obviously must contain to some extent (how else would they work?) So therefore sasuke sees that kakuzu has multiple chalkra masses on his body that are roughly the same sizes as hearts. Hmmmm i wonder what he will attack :roll:

Sasuke was able to figure out izanagi during his fight with danzo while under constant fire, before even karin was able to figure it out. Sasuke is more than smart enough to figure out to stab kakuzu in all his masks.

Shino Hatake
05-09-2010, 04:42 PM
No, but the sharingan is able to see chalkra, which the hearts obviously must contain to some extent (how else would they work?) So therefore sasuke sees that kakuzu has multiple chalkra masses on his body that are roughly the same sizes as hearts. Hmmmm i wonder what he will attack :roll:

Sasuke was able to figure out izanagi during his fight with danzo while under constant fire, before even karin was able to figure it out. Sasuke is more than smart enough to figure out to stab kakuzu in all his masks.
that means nothing. we are forgeting that wea bickering about wow they win. i think that it is in plain given reson why naruto and sasuske. win i but a rescrittion on sauske MS and his Am. Naruto dosent need to be in SM so its win by a SUMMOING JUSTU

Daybreak
05-09-2010, 05:04 PM
that means nothing. we are forgeting that wea bickering about wow they win. i think that it is in plain given reson why naruto and sasuske. win i but a rescrittion on sauske MS and his Am. Naruto dosent need to be in SM so its win by a SUMMOING JUSTU

Broken English strikes again!!!

The person i replied to thinks that kakuzu would win somehow, i countered by saying that sasuke is smart enough to figure out kakuzu's masks and therefore attack them. So it actually DOES mean something. We all know that sasuke and naruto would win, and i gave my reasons why i agree. There is no reason for you to respond to my post negatively saying it means nothing.

NarutoUzumaki12
05-09-2010, 05:06 PM
close battle but Hidan and Kakazu win