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Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Has this been done yet?


Battle at a lake.

Sasori cannot use 100 puppets.

who wins?

FierceNightmare
05-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Which Sasori?

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:24 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:24 PM
Which Sasori?

..............the only one there is.

FierceNightmare
05-04-2010, 08:26 PM
..............the only one there is.

Oh my god.

The Sasori with the fake body or the real Sasori?

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:28 PM
Oh my god.

The Sasori with the fake body or the real Sasori?

...........it is the same person. He is just inside the Hiruko puppet.

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:28 PM
Sasori roflstomps with Iron Sand. Hell, he could win in his Scorpion body.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:28 PM
http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

I had a healthy time using giogio against that Neji extremist and dupe account.

It was refreshing.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Oh my god.

The Sasori with the fake body or the real Sasori?

Whats the point in saying Oh My God?

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:31 PM
Hell, he could win in his Scorpion body.

Could he?

FierceNightmare
05-04-2010, 08:31 PM
...........it is the same person. He is just inside the Hiruko puppet.

Well first of all Zabuza can't beat Sasori because Zabuza is to slow to move out of Sasori's Kunais. Plus his Iron Tail will kill Zabuza.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Could he?

Come back when Zabuza can dodge hundreds of poisoned needles flying at him from all directions.

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Could he?

Come back when Zabuza can dodge hundreds of poisoned needles flying at him from all directions.
http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Could he?

Its actually possible.

But it also depends on location.

Is their a water source?

His Waterfall technique and Dragon while hidden in the mist can destroy Hiruko or sweep it away.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:34 PM
Come back when Zabuza can dodge hundreds of poisoned needles flying at him from all directions.

So Sakura is faster than Zabuza?

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:34 PM
Has this been done yet?


Battle at a lake.

Sasori cannot use 100 puppets.

who wins?

Its actually possible.

But it also depends on location.

Is their a water source?

His Waterfall technique and Dragon while hidden in the mist can destroy Hiruko or sweep it away.
http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Its actually possible.

But it also depends on location.

Is their a water source?

His Waterfall technique and Dragon while hidden in the mist can destroy Hiruko or sweep it away.

Reading the OP helps, xD

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:37 PM
So Sakura is faster than Zabuza?

Shown better reflexes.
http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

Forgive me for a rare mis read.

http://i35.tinypic.com/e9gdgj.jpg

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:37 PM
So Sakura is faster than Zabuza?

Its possible since Sakura was taught in the art of evasive ability.

Anyway Chiyo was controlling Sakura.

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:38 PM
In terms of movement speed Zabuza is faster. Sakura has better reaction speeds though.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:40 PM
In terms of movement speed Zabuza is faster. Sakura has better reaction speeds though.

So can't Zabuza win using long range attacks?

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:42 PM
Lol you think a pre skip jonin can beat an high tier akatsuki?

Anyway Zabuza failed to assasinated the Mzukage but Sasori killed the Kazekage and left no trace of who did it.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:43 PM
It depends if he gets the mist out on time.

And also its risky for him to try to use his decapitaing carving knife on Sasori.
Its also not guaranteed it will work either.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:45 PM
Lol you think a pre skip jonin can beat an high tier akatsuki?

Why not?


If a post skip chunin can beat an akatsuki, then why can't a pre skip jonin?

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:45 PM
Plot... PLOT NO JUTSU

http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:46 PM
So can't Zabuza win using long range attacks?
He only has Vortex and Water Dragon for long range, and both require a lot of prep via handsigns. Poison needles move faster than he can dodge. He won't have time for handsigns. Also, poison gas owns him.
Lol you think a pre skip jonin can beat an high tier akatsuki?

Anyway Zabuza failed to assasinated the Mzukage but Sasori killed the Kazekage and left no trace of who did it.
Who's to say the Mizukage wasn't just helluvah stronger than the Kazekage?
It depends if he gets the mist out on time.

And also its risky for him to try to use his decapitaing carving knife on Sasori.
Its also not guaranteed it will work either.
He shouldn't have time for mist.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:47 PM
Why not?


If a post skip chunin can beat an akatsuki, then why can't a pre skip jonin?

You mean Sakura with low kage level Chiyo? Who had convenient counters to Sasori?

Anyway the only Akatsuki Zabuza could possibly defeat is Hidan.

Or some prepped scenario with high level of moisture with ambush like against unaware Deidara walking in a forest a drizzling day.

Even thats not 100% guaranteed.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:48 PM
Anyway Zabuza failed to assasinated the Mzukage but Sasori killed the Kazekage and left no trace of who did it.

Zabuza tried to assasinate Madara. Madara cannot die, xD

Plot... PLOT NO JUTSU

http://i34.tinypic.com/2dkfps5.gif
I was talking about Shikimaru just in case you didn't realize that.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:49 PM
Zabuza tried to assasinate Madara. Madara cannot die, xD


I was talking about Shikimaru just in case you didn't realize that.

Yes he beat Hidan with Plot and Prep AKA the blood capsule and knowledge.

Just so that you know Hidan is a low - mid tier and sasori is a top tier.

Also got any proof that the Mizukage Zabuza tried to kill was Madara?

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:51 PM
Mizukage was likely Yagura. The 3 tailed jinchurriki.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:52 PM
Prep AKA the blood capsule and knowledge.

Prep is part of battle.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:52 PM
Read my post again, I edited it.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:53 PM
Also got any proof that the Mizukage Zabuza tried to kill was Madara?

Mizukage was likely Yagura. The 3 tailed jinchurriki.

No solid proof, but seeing as Kisame knew Madara is Mizukage it is most likely that Madara was the Mizukage when Zabuza tried to rebel.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
No solid proof, but seeing as Kisame knew Madara is Mizukage it is most likely that Madara was the Mizukage when Zabuza tried to rebel.

Reread the Kage Meeting.

The 4th Mizukage was Yagura.

And by age and time wise it makes sense.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
Dude Shikamaru beat the weakest Akatsuki... WITH MASSIVE HANDICAPS, so now you think Zabuza can beat an top tier akatsuki?

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:57 PM
And by age and time wise it makes sense.

Madara is Immortal, xD

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 08:58 PM
Madara is Immortal, xD

Doesn't disprove what I said. http://i33.tinypic.com/2sb093m.jpg

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 08:58 PM
Madara is Immortal, xD
Proof plox?

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 08:59 PM
Learn the meaning Immortal...

It means you can't die even if you get shot, or decapitated, if Madara is immortal then why does he always have intangibility on?

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 08:59 PM
Doesn't disprove what I said.

But it does give a reasonable alternative.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Proof plox?

Learn the meaning Immortal...

It means you can't die even if you get shot, or decapitated, if Madara is immortal then why does he always have intangibility on?

If Madara is not Immortal then why is he still alive after so many years? xD

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
But it does give a reasonable alternative.

No it doesn't. http://i33.tinypic.com/2sb093m.jpg


Until we discover Zabuza actually was aware of Madara's existence.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
05-04-2010, 09:03 PM
If Madara is not Immortal then why is he still alive after so many years? xD

Zetsu?
Orochimaru?
Kabuto?

Take your pick. Kabuto infused with Orochimaru was able to revive the akatsuki. Who's to say that Madara hasn't been revived before?

Sephiroth
05-04-2010, 09:03 PM
I seriosly think ZAbuza can take this one...I know you all will disagree but i do think so....

1. On a water source gives Zabuza, his water techniques adn hidden mist jutsu
2. He can make enough water clones to hide with in teh mist as they crush the first puttet.
3. Sasori woulnt be able to see him in the mist or make out witch one is witch
4.Zabuza witht eh water clones have enough timeto make waterdragon
5. Zabuza could trap him in a water Prison jutsu
6. Can puppets survive in water?? i seriously doubt they could

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:03 PM
No it doesn't.
Until we discover Zabuza actually was aware of Madara's existence.

Irrelevant. Just because 1 member of the 7 swords know who the Mizukage really was doesn't mean they all do.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 09:03 PM
If Madara is not Immortal then why is he still alive after so many years? xD

How do you know he is Madara? He could be in someone else's body.

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 09:04 PM
If Madara is not Immortal then why is he still alive after so many years? xD
Modern medicine. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b111/roninator/Other/vegetajv2.gif

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:05 PM
Zetsu?
Orochimaru?
Kabuto?

Take your pick. Kabuto infused with Orochimaru was able to revive the akatsuki. Who's to say that Madara hasn't been revived before?


Who is to say that Madara is even the real Madara? We can only go by what Kishi has told us so far.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:06 PM
How do you know he is Madara? He could be in someone else's body.

He could be, but until Kishi says otherwise we have to assume it is the real Madara.
Modern medicine. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b111/roninator/Other/vegetajv2.gif

Ha, ha.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 09:08 PM
Irrelevant. Just because 1 member of the 7 swords know who the Mizukage really was doesn't mean they all do.

What are you talking about?

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:09 PM
What are you talking about?

It is irrelevant if Zabuza knew that Madara was the Mizukage. It makes no difference on the outcome of his rebellion attempt.

Sephiroth
05-04-2010, 09:10 PM
I seriosly think ZAbuza can take this one...I know you all will disagree but i do think so....

1. On a water source gives Zabuza, his water techniques adn hidden mist jutsu
2. He can make enough water clones to hide with in teh mist as they crush the first puttet.
3. Sasori woulnt be able to see him in the mist or make out witch one is witch
4.Zabuza witht eh water clones have enough timeto make waterdragon
5. Zabuza could trap him in a water Prison jutsu
6. Can puppets survive in water?? i seriously doubt they could
lol i like that i gave goo points on this topic XD

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:11 PM
lol i like that i gave goo points on this topic XD

I don't think 5 or 6 would matter.

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 09:13 PM
lol i like that i gave goo points on this topic XD
1. On a water source gives Zabuza, his water techniques adn hidden mist jutsu
Not enough time before he's poison needled.
2. He can make enough water clones to hide with in teh mist as they crush the first puttet.
Not enough chakra to spam them.
3. Sasori woulnt be able to see him in the mist or make out witch one is witch
Spins around while firing needles.
4.Zabuza witht eh water clones have enough timeto make waterdragon
Barely has time for water clones, and they're destroyed before Zabuza can start the 100+ handsigns for water dragon.
5. Zabuza could trap him in a water Prison jutsu
He gets owned at close range due to Hiruko tail and poison gas bombs.
6. Can puppets survive in water?? i seriously doubt they could
They could. They don't need to breath.

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 09:14 PM
Can we please use the Romaji names of the jutsus? The BG debates about the manga not the dub. Thank You.

So use stuff like Kirigakure no Jutsu, Suirou no jutsu, Mizu Bunshin no jutsu etc.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:14 PM
Anyways I'm going to bed. I probably won't remember this thread tomorrow.

Kuroda Taishi
05-04-2010, 09:15 PM
Can we please use the Romaji names of the jutsus? The BG debates about the manga not the dub. Thank You.

So use stuff like Kirigakure no Jutsu, Suirou no jutsu etc.

No, sorry we speak english here, not japanese.

321zigzag1
05-04-2010, 09:15 PM
No, sorry we speak english here, not japanese.

http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/lmao.gif

Akira Of Shiseiten
05-04-2010, 09:16 PM
Yeah but the manga have the romaji names doesn't it?

SageoftheSixPaths
05-04-2010, 09:17 PM
Yeah but the manga have the romaji names doesn't it?
Depends on the translation/ site you use/ if you're using the actual physical manga.

Personally, I prefer English since I'm terrible with Japanese names and memorization.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
05-04-2010, 09:20 PM
What does names have to do with the topic? Who gives a damn what we call Water Dragon Jutsu? I honestly don't know the other name for it anyways.

This is Zabuza vs. Sasori, not Romaji, or whatever it's called vs. English, now is it?