Debating Contest Signup.

[321zigzag1]

Sooner I guess most of the BG is joining.

[321zigzag1]

Can I join as a debater?

Can i be a debater.

i would also be okay as a judge

You can be partners.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

^ So you can decide now? :LOS

[321zigzag1]

Want to wait for tomorrow to see the Egomaniac's response.

He makes this place a lot more lively anyway.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

I find it funny that the OP put himself with the best debater on this forum (not including OBD migrates), I doubt its a coincidence.

Also it would be funny as hell if Egomaniac gets paired up with Steven or [Shikamaru]

[321zigzag1]

I find it funny that the OP put himself with the best debater on this forum (not including OBD migrates), I doubt its a coincidence.

Also it would be funny as hell if Egomaniac gets paired up with Steven or [Shikamaru]

Well those guys are already paired with someone else so unfortunately we will never see that. :ugeek:


Unfortunately going solo isn't allowed here I believe.

[SS4 Gogeta]

I find it funny that the OP put himself with the best debater on this forum (not including OBD migrates), I doubt its a coincidence.

Also it would be funny as hell if Egomaniac gets paired up with Steven or [Shikamaru]
Unfortunately,that's what I ended up with.

[321zigzag1]

Unfortunately,that's what I ended up with.

I guess the Pokemon vs Digimon pissed you off.

[SS4 Gogeta]

Not really,though he did slightly annoy me.That has nothing to do with why I don't want to work with him,though.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Didn't Steven had a war with Abigail?

[321zigzag1]

He might have.

He also had bit of a war with Immortal Watch Dog

[Jinchiruuki]

Actually, now that you bring it up, please pm all the judges and make them, I'm putting you in charge.

Alright xD will do.

[Jinchiruuki]

Sorry for double posting but I just wanted to clarify something and have someone respond asap.

1) How many battles do you want us judges to come up with?
2) Do you want us to come up with a super battle debate for the finals? (As in having 5v5 or more for a debate)

Let me know asap

[Shikamaru Nara]

I'll add the three that asked.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Sorry for double posting but I just wanted to clarify something and have someone respond asap.

1) How many battles do you want us judges to come up with?
2) Do you want us to come up with a super battle debate for the finals? (As in having 5v5 or more for a debate)

Let me know asap

Sorry about the double posting. (Ironic. xD)

1) As many as you can, we're still getting members, so just make a lot.
2) Yes, I'm thinking that all of the battles one on one up until the finals with your super battle.

[Jinchiruuki]

Sorry about the double posting. (Ironic. xD)

1) As many as you can, we're still getting members, so just make a lot.
2) Yes, I'm thinking that all of the battles one on one up until the finals with your super battle.

Alright...me and Sasori have come up with a couple already...I split the judges into two teams to brainstorm battles...

Lady Tsunade, me and Sasori are the first judge team and the other 3 on the other.

Right now we have :

One 1v1 Battle
One 3v3 Battle


I was going to say...the first rounds should be 1v1...semi finals 2v2's and 3v3's and then finals 5v5's or more.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Makes sense, and keep up the hard work.

[ThePurpleChidori]

Can I sign up?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Yes you can.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Yo I'm a noob, with my post count and rep and all, shouldn't I get a good debater?

[Lady Tsunade]

Alright...me and Sasori have come up with a couple already...I split the judges into two teams to brainstorm battles...

Lady Tsunade, me and Sasori are the first judge team and the other 3 on the other.

Right now we have :

One 1v1 Battle
One 3v3 Battle


I was going to say...the first rounds should be 1v1...semi finals 2v2's and 3v3's and then finals 5v5's or more.
Im here!
And I was actually going to suggest that we dom't have any 5v5 battles. I often find the more people in a match the less depth people tend to go into. It also seems to make the Debate ,in often cases mere:

X vs Y(X wins)
Q vs T (Q wins)
H vs F (H wins)
X,Q+ H vs R (R loses)

matches :/ I find the more fighters involved in a match , the worse a thread it becomes tbh. I find threads where the two or three fighters who are very close in skill such as Jiraiya vs Itachi often last very long, people consider the detail and circumstances more clearly, and the outcomes of the battle are thought in depth. Perhaps the first few battles could be 1v1,2v2 or 3v3 matches but no more than that :O These battles could include opponents who may not be neccesarily close in skill, but could have restrictions to make it more fair.

The final thread should have two ninja like Jiraiya or Itachi as I said, who are close in skill ;paired against each other- that would be a more challenging debate , where people might be more inclined to think more.
Well this is just a suggestion, Its up to you Shika and of course you too Jin xD

[Sazabi24]

how about 2 characters vs. 2 other characters with prep?

Then actual character strength wont matter as much.

No way in hell am I debating something like Tsunade vs. Kakashi

[NarutoRulez]

I'd like to sign up as a debater, though I'm still practicing my debating skills.^^

[321zigzag1]

how about 2 characters vs. 2 other characters with prep?

Then actual character strength wont matter as much.

No way in hell am I debating something like Tsunade vs. Kakashi

The biggest problem with Naruto is the too limited matchups.

Too many of them are rapes.

[Sazabi24]

The biggest problem with Naruto is the too limited matchups.

Too many of them are rapes.

That's the point. The teams should write their own prep's for their characters, so debater skill will actually matter what.

No matter how good I am, I have no way of debating something like Raikage vs. Hidan.

[Gamabunta]

I would like to sign up. Please make sure this is a quality contest though. Well organized, well judged. All that jazz.

[321zigzag1]

That's the point. The teams should write their own prep's for their characters, so debater skill will actually matter what.

No matter how good I am, I have no way of debating something like Raikage vs. Hidan.

This actually brings up a very important question.

What the heck are the judges are planning?

They said they tried to make it fair but really we know VIZ has overused 1 vs 1 here. Hence why the BG title explanation changed.

[e710]

Yo I'm a noob, with my post count and rep and all, shouldn't I get a good debater?

You did :mrgreen:. nah I suck

[Jinchiruuki]

I would like to sign up. Please make sure this is a quality contest though. Well organized, well judged. All that jazz.

<--- is leader of Judges. And we are coming up with insane battles to debate.

[321zigzag1]

<--- is leader of Judges. And we are coming up with insane battles to debate.

1 vs 1 is too limited though. Much of them has already been burned up.

[Jinchiruuki]

1 vs 1 is too limited though. Much of them has already been burned up.

I posted in the other thread responding to your comment on that...like I said..we are coming up with 2v2, 3v3, etc. No 1v1's.

[321zigzag1]

I posted in the other thread responding to your comment on that...like I said..we are coming up with 2v2, 3v3, etc. No 1v1's.

Excellent.

Sazabi24 will be a little more pleased with this.

As for it makes the spectating more interesting.

Although when does this start?

[Jinchiruuki]

Excellent.

Sazabi24 will be a little more pleased with this.

As for it makes the spectating more interesting.

Although when does this start?

Shikamaru told me to organize as many hypothetical battles as possible...as of now we have 4 or 5 for sure..and many others being tested.

I would ask him to see when he plans on shooting this off.

[Jinchiruuki]

Im here!
And I was actually going to suggest that we dom't have any 5v5 battles. I often find the more people in a match the less depth people tend to go into. It also seems to make the Debate ,in often cases mere:

X vs Y(X wins)
Q vs T (Q wins)
H vs F (H wins)
X,Q+ H vs R (R loses)

matches :/ I find the more fighters involved in a match , the worse a thread it becomes tbh. I find threads where the two or three fighters who are very close in skill such as Jiraiya vs Itachi often last very long, people consider the detail and circumstances more clearly, and the outcomes of the battle are thought in depth. Perhaps the first few battles could be 1v1,2v2 or 3v3 matches but no more than that :O These battles could include opponents who may not be neccesarily close in skill, but could have restrictions to make it more fair.

The final thread should have two ninja like Jiraiya or Itachi as I said, who are close in skill ;paired against each other- that would be a more challenging debate , where people might be more inclined to think more.
Well this is just a suggestion, Its up to you Shika and of course you too Jin xD

I agree but this is a contest...and as a judge I will say if someone doesn't go in depth about how a side wins...then I won't pass them...it'll be much like the War system battles judging...the more in depth you go and actually explain how stuff works..the better off you are in terms of winning. As of right now we have just 2v2's, 3v3's and I think a 1v2.

The debaters should think more when it's more ninja rather than when it's less imo.

But I do like what you bring to the tables :)

[Lady Tsunade]

I agree but this is a contest...and as a judge I will say if someone doesn't go in depth about how a side wins...then I won't pass them...it'll be much like the War system battles judging...the more in depth you go and actually explain how stuff works..the better off you are in terms of winning. As of right now we have just 2v2's, 3v3's and I think a 1v2.

The debaters should think more when it's more ninja rather than when it's less imo.

But I do like what you bring to the tables :)
Of course!Thats our job! What I'm saying, is that it would make our lives so much easier if we didn't have to tell someone off for not going into depth. Threads would be easier to manage,less complex and not as much hassle if didn't have any 5 v 5 matches.

Exactly, but what I find, is that they don't. Just saying- I think it would be a lot more managable if we merely had a maximum of 3,maaaybe four people in a match.

Not sure if you agree but-I suppose as long as we make good threads, nothing majorly problematic is going to happen :o

[Jinchiruuki]

Of course!Thats our job! What I'm saying, is that it would make our lives so much easier if we didn't have to tell someone off for not going into depth. Threads would be easier to manage,less complex and not as much hassle if didn't have any 5 v 5 matches.

Exactly, but what I find, is that they don't. Just saying- I think it would be a lot more managable if we merely had a maximum of 3,maaaybe four people in a match.

Not sure if you agree but-I suppose as long as we make good threads, nothing majorly problematic is going to happen :o

I think our plan is to have 2v2's and 3v3's for the first couple rounds of debates..then for semi finals have 3v3's and 4v4's and then for the final a 5v5 match. It won't be hard to manage a 5v5 thread when it's just two teams going at it.

[Lady Tsunade]

I think our plan is to have 2v2's and 3v3's for the first couple rounds of debates..then for semi finals have 3v3's and 4v4's and then for the final a 5v5 match. It won't be hard to manage a 5v5 thread when it's just two teams going at it.
Well if both you and Sasori agree to it, then I guess we can do it. But I wouldnt ,people might just direct their focus on mainly one or two characters on either team and kinda forget about the rest.But, you guys are probably better at this stuff than I am- Ill trust you.

[Jinchiruuki]

Well if both you and Sasori agree to it, then I guess we can do it. But I wouldnt ,people might just direct their focus on mainly one or two characters on either team and kinda forget about the rest.But, you guys are probably better at this stuff than I am- Ill trust you.

Yeah if it seems like it would take to much to manage then we may just say screw the 5v5....all depends on how it is setup though.

Don't worry lady :D I am still listening to what you have to say..your input is important too :D

[321zigzag1]

We should do a joke bonus match like Dudemeister vs everyone just for spite and lulz.

I have done it before.

[Sazabi24]

We should do a joke bonus match like Dudemeister vs everyone just for spite and lulz.

I have done it before.

I win :) .

[321zigzag1]

I win :) .

Dudemeister got section banned.

[Sazabi24]

Poor Ono .

[321zigzag1]

Apparently The Demon Zabuza didn't section ban him.

Going to find out who did it.

[Sazabi24]

I don't think I'll last long enough to actually debate in the tournament. I'll probably get banned.

[321zigzag1]

I don't think I'll last long enough to actually debate in the tournament. I'll probably get banned.

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[Skylar]

Is it too late to sign up?(I read the OP, but just in case) If so I would like to sign up as a Debater.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

if this is where to sing up count me in

it might maske me post here more often

[Shikamaru Nara]

I added you two on the list.

[321zigzag1]

When does this start?

[Space Cowboy Sasori]

I think he said 2-3 weeks or something like that.

[Shikamaru Nara]

When does this start?

This starts on the 22nd of May, we still have people joining.

[The 1st Hokage]

damn,21 days till it starts.It seems like a long time,but it wont be that bad,the anticipation is the hardest part of waiting.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Well, the debating is going to be majorly awesome. xD

[The 1st Hokage]

Well, the debating is going to be majorly awesome. xD
The most epic thing since color TV!

[Shikamaru Nara]

Maybe even more epic than that...xD

[The 1st Hokage]

Maybe even more epic than that...xD
But is it more epic than...INTERNET?

[Shikamaru Nara]

No. Never.

[yondamaine]

i want to join

[yondamaine]

so it doesn't start yet.

[yondamaine]

No. Never.
shikamaru is the bomb

[321zigzag1]

I honestly hope this contest has been done with careful coordination and preparation.

Anyway I am still thinking whether to join or not.

[Kazumi Saitama]

~Signs 321zigzag1 up, forged his signature.~ >.>

[Shikamaru Nara]

shikamaru is the bomb

I'll add you to the list.

[MysticGoten]

I'm with deidara330.
Intresting.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I didn't think you could be a leader for your team to say the least.

[Jinchiruuki]

Me and the judges are going to work on more battles this week. I would like to know when you plan on having this contest?

[Shikamaru Nara]

The day that this starts is May 22nd. You also make the team matchups for the first round.

[MysticGoten]

I wouldn't pick myself as leader either.
Is this only Naruto debates?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Yes. They're Naruto only.

[MysticGoten]

Can we mske it relevant only up to volume 47?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Sorry. The battles can't be like that. Try to catch up quickly.

[MysticGoten]

Eh?!
I can't order the volumes from Japan!!
That's the most recent one out from America!

[Shikamaru Nara]

Just do online scans, it's easy.

[MysticGoten]

Fine, then.

[Phoenix Wright]

I still don't get this. You have teams set up and everything. What if they won't debate with one another because its obvious who wins? What if the two people on the same team disagree? If this isn't hidden somewhere in the thread already please explain. I wouldn't have made teams already if I didn't know how this was going to happen if I were you.

[Shikamaru Nara]

The judges are in charge of that stuff.

[Phoenix Wright]

You're kidding. You made it. You made teams, and assigned judges.

So I'm going to take it as you told the judges what it was about. Otherwise you're saying you're leaving it all to the judges to decide what's going on even though you've set all this up?

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Shikamaru Nara + Miles Edgeworth = obvious set up by the creator of this contest.

I suggest you use random.com and take snapshots to prove that you used it.

[Shikamaru Nara]

You're kidding. You made it. You made teams, and assigned judges.

So I'm going to take it as you told the judges what it was about. Otherwise you're saying you're leaving it all to the judges to decide what's going on even though you've set all this up?

This is about Narutoverse battles. We're on teams so that if we blow it, we have somebody to rely on.

[Jinchiruuki]

Me and the judges are still working on quite a bit. I have to get everyone on around the same time so we can come up with the rest of the battles and stuff.

[321zigzag1]

Shikamaru Nara + Miles Edgeworth = obvious set up by the creator of this contest.

I suggest you use random.com and take snapshots to prove that you used it.

Yes. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/radioheadlj9.png

[Wooster]

I still don't get this. You have teams set up and everything. What if they won't debate with one another because its obvious who wins? What if the two people on the same team disagree? If this isn't hidden somewhere in the thread already please explain. I wouldn't have made teams already if I didn't know how this was going to happen if I were you.
If you are good debtor it doesn't matter what side you are on.

Shikamaru: I assume you or the judges will just assign matches and the side you must debate. That's the right way to do it.

If you are still taking entrants I guess I will join. I also can offer my as a rep donor if you want.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I'll add you to the list.

[Wooster]

I'll add you to the list.
Danke.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

Yo Shikamaru Nara ignoring my posts? Prove all the more that you purposely paired miles up with yourself.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Yo Shikamaru Nara ignoring my posts? Prove all the more that you purposely paired miles up with yourself.

I told you from the beginning that if you complained, I'd kick you out. I have respect for you, but I refuse to respond to any sort of thing like that.

[Akira Of Shiseiten]

I'm only suggesting that you should use random.com.

[Shikamaru Nara]

And I'm rejecting.

[Phoenix Wright]

This is about Narutoverse battles. We're on teams so that if we blow it, we have somebody to rely on.
Well that's not what I meant at all. How exactly would someone blow it then?

[Shikamaru Nara]

By doing badly in a debate.

[Phoenix Wright]

Alright, alright. Clearly you're not getting it. In a few minutes I'll PM you a list of questions I'd like answered.

[Sasuke]

I am sorry but I am going to need to ask, who's team am I on?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Go to the link on the front page, I don't remember.

[Kingsnoke]

Kingsnoke signs up.

[Skylar]

I don't think I'm on the list of participants.

[Blind Uchiha]

I would be interested in participating.

[Nero]

I want to join as a debater ..

[Phoenix Wright]

Holy crap, that'd be sweet if I was on Nero's team! xD

[Shikamaru Nara]

I'll add all of you.

Skylar : Lemme check again.

[Kuromaki]

May 22? Crap.

I'll be gone for like a whole week. Is there any way this can be started earlier, or does that mean I have to resign? Cause I don't wanna resign.

[rocketjed1]

Wow.....I cannot believe I just now saw this. I'm totally joining.

[DanzoHokage#6]

hey this sounds pretty fun. may i participate in this as a debater?

[Shikamaru Nara]

May 22? Crap.

I'll be gone for like a whole week. Is there any way this can be started earlier, or does that mean I have to resign? Cause I don't wanna resign.

I can't. I can't start it early, I can push it back a week.

Wow.....I cannot believe I just now saw this. I'm totally joining.

xD. Okay.

hey this sounds pretty fun. may i participate in this as a debater?


Sure thing.

[Kuromaki]

I can't. I can't start it early, I can push it back a week.
So is that okay with you?

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

I want to join!

[chidoriroar]

I want to join!
whats youre problem with danzo? and why are you obssesed with tsunade?

[Kuromaki]

Shikamaru, you pushed it to June 1? Thanks, man, you're awesome!
what?! youre pushing it back a week for one person?
Why not? :cool:

Also, chidoriroar, you shouldn't spam like that, because spamming gets you banned from the contest:

You cannot spam, you will be banned from the contest, and you will get dereps, also, if you do it enough, I WILL get you infracted.
And if you want to see your team, there's a thread (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55887) for that.

[chidoriroar]

hey what the heck did i do? i bet most people agree with me. why are you guys giving me a bad reputation. ADD TO MY REP AND ILL ADD TO YOURS PLEASE!!!!!!!!
i really didnt do anything now i probably have the worst rep there is.

[e710]

hey what the heck did i do? i bet most people agree with me. why are you guys giving me a bad reputation. ADD TO MY REP AND ILL ADD TO YOURS PLEASE!!!!!!!!
i really didnt do anything now i probably have the worst rep there is.

Who gives a rats @$$ about rep.

[Kuromaki]

hey what the heck did i do? i bet most people agree with me. why are you guys giving me a bad reputation. ADD TO MY REP AND ILL ADD TO YOURS PLEASE!!!!!!!!
i really didnt do anything now i probably have the worst rep there is.
Hey it's not such a big deal, look you have 2 rep power now. Also, like I said, you should stop asking people to add to your rep or it'll make people want to downrep you.

I said you were spamming because of the multiple posts in a row.

And about the contest, I don't see what's so bad about pushing it to June.

[The 1st Hokage]

Oh,i may nt have much,but i have more than the 5 you said rep doners need.3 more rep points and I'll have 7 rep power though.

P.S. Don't +rep me off the post unless it helped you.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Unfortunately I am not allowing you to take on that job because we already have enough helpers on that.

[The 1st Hokage]

Unfortunately I am not allowing you to take on that job because we already have enough helpers on that.
Okay then buddy.:D

[Superwes Reborn]

May I join as a debater?

[Shikamaru Nara]

Sorry, that's a negative. I should've said this, but I closed registration because the competition is so close.

[NBT]

I'm dropping out.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Sucks for you.

[tanduhman]

so is it actually going to start on the 1st?

[Jiraiya Sekai]

so is it actually going to start on the 1st?
yes, according to Shikamaru, it will. so be there!

[The 1st Hokage]

so is it actually going to start on the 1st?
I hope it doesnt start on me :stupid joke:

[tanduhman]

may I just state how its only a day before the tournament starts... so mayb an announcement shall be stated about the matter?

[Phoenix Wright]

Well I have some unfortunate news guys. I was supposed to debate on the second which is today if I'm not mistaken, to be honest I don't even know anymore.

Because of my stupid ISP, I have no internet and probably won't have it for a week or two. Also the past few weeks I have been trying to get ahold of my partner to no avail. Sorry if I can't debate at the time, if you drop me out I will troll your ass.

[The 1st Hokage]

Well I have some unfortunate news guys. I was supposed to debate on the second which is today if I'm not mistaken, to be honest I don't even know anymore.

Because of my stupid ISP, I have no internet and probably won't have it for a week or two. Also the past few weeks I have been trying to get ahold of my partner to no avail. Sorry if I can't debate at the time, if you drop me out I will troll your ass.
How are you on now then?

[Jinchiruuki]

My apologies for any inconvenience to those who were supposed to have a battle made for them yesterday and today..I have a lot going on in RL atm so me being able to hop on here is semi tough.

I will be posting the next two battles (yesterdays and todays) shortly.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Is it at all possible to get this whole thing moving a bit faster? Like two threads a day? I'm cool if that's a no, but I'm impatient. xD

[Shikamaru Nara]

No! >.<

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Fair enough. xD

[Jinchiruuki]

So far there hasn't been a single solid debate.

[The 1st Hokage]

So far there hasn't been a single solid debate.
There needs to be a system. PM the debaters, and tell them it's there turn, and if they have been inactive in the last week, give them 1 day. If they don't get online, the other team wins by default.

[Jinchiruuki]

I have seen the users online as I put their threads up. 1 day is also not enough for some people. I would give them a couple days at least.

[The 1st Hokage]

I have seen the users online as I put their threads up. 1 day is also not enough for some people. I would give them a couple days at least.
48 hours sounds good.

[Jinchiruuki]

Shikamaru we need clarification on the following:

1) If neither team posts a debate....do both teams forfeit?
2) If one team posts their argument and no counter is made by the other team within 48+ hours does that team automatically win by default?

[Shikamaru Nara]

1) Yes.
2) Yep.

[Jinchiruuki]

alright I have started the 48 hour limit today. So all those from June 1-4 have 48 hours to do this. I give the first few day debators leeway since they probably did not see the threads...and I didn't PM them until a few seconds ago.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

both my opponents and team mates have taken a vacation it would seem

also my posting maybe sporadic tomorrow and Sunday since I'll be tending to some RL affairs to I apologize in advance if I slow down the debate but I will get a word in

[Skylar]

Question- I didn't really get one of the rules; so if my team member(The IWD) posts in the match thread who he thinks would win, then the opponent goes, do I post next? or do I wait for the next match we're in(if we win)?

[Jinchiruuki]

So is this thing a flop? Because not one match has been debated yet.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Just post after your opponent's counter.

Not a flop, the serious people will be posting more in 2nd round.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Just post after your opponent's counter.

Not a flop, the serious people will be posting more in 2nd round.

well I'm here..sos..my tag team partner

but the other guys sans his opponent...I'd say we're taking it serious though or at least hope so

[Akatsuki X]

Can both teams debate on the same side, I mean they both think that the same side would win and they are arguing over who's points are more valid for that side?

Or does each team have to pick a different side to argue for?

[Kuromaki]

Can both teams debate on the same side, I mean they both think that the same side would win and they are arguing over who's points are more valid for that side?

Or does each team have to pick a different side to argue for?
This is what I want to know. I mean if they can debate on the same side, I'd assume that the team with the better explanation wins.

[Wooster]

So Shikamaru, once a debate has been decide, what are we doing for rep donations?

You said in the first round everyone gets rep; however, I assume we are not giving rep to teams that didn't even participate, right?

Also, what if one partner of the team wasn't there? Should we be giving rep to them anyway since their partner carried them through?

[e710]

Can we partner up the people who don't have partners or their partner never showed up?

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

whats youre problem with danzo? and why are you obssesed with tsunade?

Danzo is a jerk. he doesnt have n e real powers of his own he had to steal them. did u see how he just did nothing as the village was being attack

and i feel like tsunade is soo under apreciated thats why i stick up for her so much