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mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:00 PM
Tobi=

1. Madara's Soul

2. Shisui's Body

3. Obito's Eye


1. Tobi considers himself Madara so unless Tobi is insane he is Madara.
However there have been plenty hints that he may not be in his original
body. It would explain his talk about being incomplete.

2. Tobi is using Shisui's body. Since we see Tobi meeting up with Itachi
with his long flowing Madara Hair then he was probably still
in his original body at that point. He was probably on the verge of
collapse. Madara is like Orochimaru. He needs a new vessel.

3. Tobi does have Shisui's eye. But it's in his lab. So why not use
Shisui's eye? Madara wants to gain Sussano. He needs two eyes
to gain Sussano. However, it could be that they have two eyes
from the same person (otherwise Danzo should have had it)
Madara probably didn't want to waste Shisui's eye power so
he left it at the Sharingan Lab. So why is it Obito's eye?
Well it could be pretty much anyone's but Obito's eye fits
the story best.

Madara had Sasuke kill Danzo so he could get Shisui's other eye.

But Danzo crushed the eye.

So no Shisui Sussano.

Madara's back up plan.

Obito Sussano.

Why is this the back up?
Because Madara probably didn't think Sasuke was mentally able
to fight Kakashi yet. He could easily fight Danzo (mentally) though.

Also

Shisui and Obito were very likely brothers.

Kabuto has Madara's real body in the coffin.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 08:07 PM
How certain are we the Shisui's other eye is in a jar?

Other than that it seems pretty reasonable. Madara was lurking around Konoha before the Nine Tails attack, and he did say he likes to stock up on sharingan. So lucky him a sharingan just left for anyone to find.

I forgot did the Uchiha clan only find Shisui's letter or was there a body too?

jaden4538
04-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Nicely done i can believe that

jukeboxed
04-17-2010, 08:11 PM
Not to burst your bubble, but it isn't very likely that it's Obito's eye. It was probably destroyed completely when he was crushed by boulders.

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:12 PM
I forgot did the Uchiha clan only find Shisui's letter or was there a body too?
They probably wouldn't of found the note if they didn't have a body.

Kiko-kun
04-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I do agree with the first two, but being Obitos eyes could not be true, Kakashi has one of the eyes, while the other one was crushed in the boulder incident.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:14 PM
How certain are we the Shisui's other eye is in a jar?

Other than that it seems pretty reasonable. Madara was lurking around Konoha before the Nine Tails attack, and he did say he likes to stock up on sharingan. So lucky him a sharingan just left for anyone to find.

I forgot did the Uchiha clan only find Shisui's letter or was there a body too?


Remember we first saw Madara's Sharingan lab?

Supposedly the text says Shisui Uchiha.

Someone from the forum said that was what it was.

Though I'm not actually sure if that's the case.

If it's not then Madara has Shisui's body and eye.

But if it is then it's this theory.

SageNaruto69
04-17-2010, 08:14 PM
whats your theory about tobis "nice side" or "funny side"?
it should be obitos bodty and eye if anything. danzo had that side eye from shisui.
please reply to me. what do you think???

jukeboxed
04-17-2010, 08:15 PM
Although, Madara's soul occupying Shisui's body is very believable. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

jukeboxed
04-17-2010, 08:16 PM
whats your theory about tobis "nice side" or "funny side"?
it should be obitos bodty and eye if anything. danzo had that side eye from shisui.
please reply to me. what do you think???
Tobi's "nice/funny side" was a cover-up to hide his true identity and intentions, am I correct?

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:17 PM
whats your theory about tobis "nice side" or "funny side"?
it should be obitos bodty and eye if anything. danzo had that side eye from shisui.
please reply to me. what do you think???

Madara is a good actor. Also from what we saw when Madara partially removed his mask it didn't look like his face had been crushed. It just looked wrinkly.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:19 PM
Not to burst your bubble, but it isn't very likely that it's Obito's eye. It was probably destroyed completely when he was crushed by boulders.

They probably wouldn't of found the note if they didn't have a body.

I do agree with the first two, but being Obitos eyes could not be true, Kakashi has one of the eyes, while the other one was crushed in the boulder incident.


Yeah, I don't think it being Obito's eye makes a lot of sense either.
But storywise it fits. I mean would anyone care if he had Bob Uchiha's eye?
It's possible that although Obito was crushed his eye survived. Boulders
can be oddly shaped (especially for the sake of plot. :roll:) and it could
have fallen at an angle too. When you think about it, Obito couldn't
have been talken if it crushed half of his face because that's half
of his brain too.

The body was likely taken after the Uchiha massacre...

That was also when the Uchiha incident probably was.

Madara and Danzo made a deal (not a friendly deal mind you)
Madara got Shisui's eye and body. Danzo got the other eye.

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:22 PM
The body was likely taken after the Uchiha massacre...
Whats the point of putting a soul inside a cadaver then?

jukeboxed
04-17-2010, 08:22 PM
Yeah, I don't think it being Obito's eye makes a lot of sense either.
But storywise it fits. I mean would anyone care if he had Bob Uchiha's eye?
It's possible that although Obito was crushed his eye survived. Boulders
can be oddly shaped (especially for the sake of plot. :roll:) and it could
have fallen at an angle too. When you think about it, Obito couldn't
have been talken if it crushed half of his face because that's half
of his brain too.

The body was likely taken after the Uchiha massacre...

That was also when the Uchiha incident probably was.

Madara and Danzo made a deal (not a friendly deal mind you)
Madara got Shisui's eye and body. Danzo got the other eye.
Touche.

SageNaruto69
04-17-2010, 08:22 PM
Tobi's "nice/funny side" was a cover-up to hide his true identity and intentions, am I correct?
? not to sure of that. it could be, or it could be another part of him like zetsu 0_o lol`:shock:

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:23 PM
Tobi's "nice/funny side" was a cover-up to hide his true identity and intentions, am I correct?


Yes.

But I think there's another part to it.

He's using Shisui's voice. If he has Shisui's body he should have Shisui's
vocal cords too.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Whats the point of putting a soul inside a cadaver then?


Madara probably didn't have much choice.

It needed to be an Uchiha body. (Don't they always. :roll:)

But he wasn't strong enough to fight Itachi

and he couldn't take Sasuke's body because Itachi would have
beaten him up.

jukeboxed
04-17-2010, 08:26 PM
Whats the point of putting a soul inside a cadaver then?
Madara IS pretty old. He might have transferred his soul in Shisui's body when his own body was too weak to do anything.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:27 PM
Madara IS pretty old. He might have transferred his soul in Shisui's body when his body was too weak to do anything.

In any case Shisui is plot wise the most interesting. Therefore the most likely.


Though imagine if it ends up being Bob Uchiha's body...

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Madara probably didn't have much choice.

It needed to be an Uchiha body. (Don't they always. :roll:)

But he wasn't strong enough to fight Itachi

and he couldn't take Sasuke's body because Itachi would have
beaten him up.

Why would Itachi beat up Madara if he had Sasuke's body. I thought Itachi didn't want to hurt Sasuke, which is why he didn't kill him.

Kakashi-sama
04-17-2010, 08:30 PM
besides Obito's eye, i buy it. The eye might get crushed already. Also, don't think Madara would take interest in an unknown little boy who just got his sharingan. I don't even think Madara cares to spot sharingans 24/7

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:34 PM
Why would Itachi beat up Madara if he had Sasuke's body. I thought Itachi didn't want to hurt Sasuke, which is why he didn't kill him.

I think you answered your own question.

besides Obito's eye, i buy it. The eye might get crushed already. Also, don't think Madara would take interest in an unknown little boy who just got his sharingan. I don't even think Madara cares to spot sharingans 24/7


Trust me. I don't like it either. Originally it would have been just Madara
in Shisui's body with Shisui's eye. However since Shisui's eye Madara
had was apparently in the lab then Madara's eye is someone else's.
Obito works the next best, plot wise that is. Though honestly I think
it be far more interesting if it was Fugaku. Yet somehow I don't think
Kishimoto would do that. And it's not going to be Bob Uchiha's eye either.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 08:43 PM
Remember we first saw Madara's Sharingan lab?

Supposedly the text says Shisui Uchiha.

Someone from the forum said that was what it was.

Though I'm not actually sure if that's the case.

If it's not then Madara has Shisui's body and eye.

But if it is then it's this theory.
Well I can't read Japanese, but I like the Shisui's eye better. Madara's power is exactly the same as Kakashi's. Though I suppose each eye has different powers. And the symmetry of Kakashi having one eye and Madara the other is quite intellectually pleasing.

Yes.

But I think there's another part to it.

He's using Shisui's voice. If he has Shisui's body he should have Shisui's
vocal cords too.
But then wouldn't Itachi recognize Shisui's voice then. But I suppose Itachi would have to know if Madara used Shisui's body.

Finally, are you suggesting they took the cadaver later? I suppose that would work. Maybe they kept in on ice.

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:43 PM
Didn't Danzo have Shisui's body as his arm?

zerosameri
04-17-2010, 08:47 PM
Remember we first saw Madara's Sharingan lab?

Supposedly the text says Shisui Uchiha.

Someone from the forum said that was what it was.

Though I'm not actually sure if that's the case.

If it's not then Madara has Shisui's body and eye.

But if it is then it's this theory.
That someone on the forum was me. You can cheack the tex you self, but it will be hard to make it out; have to stare at it for a bit and go back and forth.

--

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:48 PM
Well I can't read Japanese, but I like the Shisui's eye better. Madara's power is exactly the same as Kakashi's. Though I suppose each eye has different powers. And the symmetry of Kakashi having one eye and Madara the other is quite intellectually pleasing.


But then wouldn't Itachi recognize Shisui's voice then. But Isuppose Itachi would have to know if Madara used Shisui's body.

Finally, are you suggesting they took the cadaver later? I suppose that would work. Maybe they kept in on ice.

Yeah, I'm hoping the person was wrong and Madara has Shisui's body
and eye. But consider this a worst case scenario. It also fits nicely
with the Madara/Kakashi Staredown Showdown.

Itachi probably does recognize Shisui's voice and he probably
does know he's using his body. But because of the one thing
that Itachi doesn't know he can't kill Madara.

Yeah, probably. It seems to work best that way.

Didn't Danzo have Shisui's body as his arm?

Yeah I'm thinking that maybe Madara has Obito's arm then...

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 08:51 PM
That someone on the forum was me. You can cheack the tex you self, but it will be hard to make it out; have to stare at it for a bit and go back and forth.

--

I was thinking it was you but I wasn't sure.
You're probably right but man did that ever throw my original theory
for a loop. Hopefully the Viz version will just translate it to English
and say "Shisui Uchiha" then we will know for sure.

Hence

this theory.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 08:53 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping the person was wrong and Madara has Shisui's body
and eye. But consider this a worst case scenario. It also fits nicely
with the Madara/Kakashi Staredown Showdown.

Itachi probably does recognize Shisui's voice and he probably
does know he's using his body. But because of the one thing
that Itachi doesn't know he can't kill Madara.

Yeah, probably. It seems to work best that way.



Yeah I'm thinking that maybe Madara has Obito's arm then...
Speaking of stare down showdowns. Don't Kabuto and Kakashi have something to settle. Way back when, Kabuto said he wondered if Kakashi could take him. However, Kabuto ran away, and they didn't fight at the stadium either. It seems a battle between them is destined.

But you guys are way off with the arm. Danzo had a wooden arm made with the First's DNA.

zerosameri
04-17-2010, 08:54 PM
I was thinking it was you but I wasn't sure.
You're probably right but man did that ever throw my original theory
for a loop. Hopefully the Viz version will just translate it to English
and say "Shisui Uchiha" then we will know for sure.

Hence

this theory.
I think it was wooster with the theoy and then you jumped in and added something to it? But yea it's something esle

Edit: It's chapter 482 page 13 pannle 1

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 08:55 PM
But you guys are way off with the arm. Danzo had a wooden arm made with the First's DNA.
Ah. That's why it looked like that. Well then why would Danzo give Shisui's body to Madara?

byakuganmaster3695
04-17-2010, 08:56 PM
Tobi=

1. Madara's Soul

2. Shisui's Body

3. Obito's Eye


1. Tobi considers himself Madara so unless Tobi is insane he is Madara.
However there have been plenty hints that he may not be in his original
body. It would explain his talk about being incomplete.

2. Tobi is using Shisui's body. Since we see Tobi meeting up with Itachi
with his long flowing Madara Hair then he was probably still
in his original body at that point. He was probably on the verge of
collapse. Madara is like Orochimaru. He needs a new vessel.

3. Tobi does have Shisui's eye. But it's in his lab. So why not use
Shisui's eye? Madara wants to gain Sussano. He needs two eyes
to gain Sussano. However, it could be that they have two eyes
from the same person (otherwise Danzo should have had it)
Madara probably didn't want to waste Shisui's eye power so
he left it at the Sharingan Lab. So why is it Obito's eye?
Well it could be pretty much anyone's but Obito's eye fits
the story best.

Madara had Sasuke kill Danzo so he could get Shisui's other eye.

But Danzo crushed the eye.

So no Shisui Sussano.

Madara's back up plan.

Obito Sussano.

Why is this the back up?
Because Madara probably didn't think Sasuke was mentally able
to fight Kakashi yet. He could easily fight Danzo (mentally) though.

Also

Shisui and Obito were very likely brothers.

Kabuto has Madara's real body in the coffin.


wow this is really nice but i highly doubt any of it

1 obito's other eye was crushed by the rocks and kakashi has the other one

2 i think madara is in his orginal body and he just has shisui eye and i think he is saving it for something else

3 i think its just madara's little brother in the coffin and i dont see how it can be anybody else

zerosameri
04-17-2010, 09:12 PM
were's wooster. he would of been all over this by post 5.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 09:14 PM
were's wooster. he would of been all over this by post 5.
What do you mean where am I? Are my posts invisible?

Besides I am trying post and watch Monster at the same time here.

zerosameri
04-17-2010, 09:20 PM
What do you mean where am I? Are my posts invisible?
Nope your wrong, I ment you ushaly would of posted something in this thread by post 5

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 09:21 PM
Speaking of stare down showdowns. Don't Kabuto and Kakashi have something to settle. Way back when, Kabuto said he wondered if Kakashi could take him. However, Kabuto ran away, and they didn't fight at the stadium either. It seems a battle between them is destined.

But you guys are way off with the arm. Danzo had a wooden arm made with the First's DNA.

Kakashi vs Kabuto. Sounds good to me.

Ok well that clears that up.


I think it was wooster with the theoy and then you jumped in and added something to it? But yea it's something esle

Edit: It's chapter 482 page 13 pannle 1

Yeah I know. But since I don't read Japanese I could even begin
to read it. Hence why I hope Viz translates it into English.

Ah. That's why it looked like that. Well then why would Danzo give Shisui's body to Madara?

They probably made a blackmail deal. Where they make a deal
because each other could blackmail the other.

Consider it like Danzo and Orochimaru. You know that deal
isn't friendly either.

wow this is really nice but i highly doubt any of it

1 obito's other eye was crushed by the rocks and kakashi has the other one

2 i think madara is in his orginal body and he just has shisui eye and i think he is saving it for something else

3 i think its just madara's little brother in the coffin and i dont see how it can be anybody else

1. Obito's eye, for the sake of plot, could have survived.
And also had the rock crush his eye it should crush
half his skull too and brain. Obito would be instantly dead then.

2 and 3. Since Madara is asking HOW Kabuto summoned the summon
it seems as if Madara was thinking such a summon wouldn't be possible.
Madara's true body would be a good choice.

Besides it allows Kishimoto to write a tedious chapter of explanation.
You know how much Kishimoto loves though. Actually I think all
Shonen mangakas love tedious explanation chapters.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 09:24 PM
Nope your wrong, I ment you ushaly would of posted something in this thread by post 5
Yes I posted by 2. You know the post right after the OP.

Besides I'm sure mrsticky approves of my distraction right now.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 09:25 PM
were's wooster. he would of been all over this by post 5.

Where's there's smoke there's fire.

Where there's Mrsticky005 (or Jeeves) there's Wooster

What do you mean where am I? Are my posts invisible?

Besides I am trying post and watch Monster at the same time here.

Yay! Monster! Try making theories for that one. `;)

Wooster
04-17-2010, 09:28 PM
Where's there's smoke there's fire.

Where there's Mrsticky005 (or Jeeves) there's Wooster



Yay! Monster! Try making theories for that one. `;)
Someone sure thinks highly of himself.

But since you said it: Jeeves make me a drink!

But here is my Monster theory:

Madara is really Dieter!

zerosameri
04-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Yes I posted by 2. You know the post right after the OP.

Besides I'm sure mrsticky approves of my distraction right now.
I see that now `o.o"

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Someone sure things highly of himself.

But since you said it: Jeeves make me a drink!

Well Jeeves should think highly of himself. Great men like him come once a ...
Oh wait he's fictional. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!


Anywho, on the Tedious Explanation Chapters. I think Death Note may
be one of the worst of them all especially in Volume 12. While there
is some logic in Death Note much of it is buried in a plethora of
text used to make it sound smarter than it really is.
You know there's too much text when the speech bubbles take up
half the panel...or page.

It's not so much that the logic is flawed but more of it takes
forever for them to say 1+1=2. They have to explain the
entire philosophy and history of the numbers


If you ever read "Liar Game" it's even WORSE than Death Note is
at least scanlation-wise that is. Perhaps an actual volume would
be better. Such text can be quite difficult to translate

Rule of thumb. The less words a comic or manga uses to explain
something that's difficult to explain the smarter it is.


Yay!!!!! Dieter.

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 09:46 PM
I think I mentioned this earlier in this thread, when Madara partially removes his mask to show Sasuke his sharingan we get to see that he has wrinkles on his face, meaning he is old underneath the mask. Therefore he cannot be using Shisui's body, as Shisui was young when Itachi killed him.

Wooster
04-17-2010, 09:54 PM
I see that now `o.o"
You were just testing if I knew 2<5.

Well Jeeves should think highly of himself. Great men like him come once a ...
Oh wait he's fictional. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!





Yay!!!!! Dieter.
Of course he's fictional, it's elementary my dear Watson. Ha, now I'm the smart great man that's not....Oh.

Really though what is their to predict. I would have to make up characters to predict anything, although it seems the main players are finally forming.

So therefore, Tenma, Dieter and Anna are the good guys. Monster is bad, but Eva is out of her gourd, so she will be evil too. Inspector Lunge thinks Tenma is out of his gourd, so he will inadvertently help Eva thus help Monster. By the way, did he get a voice change? Or maybe it's just me.

Still Madara is Dieter I just know it.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 10:00 PM
I think I mentioned this earlier in this thread, when Madara partially removes his mask to show Sasuke his sharingan we get to see that he has wrinkles on his face, meaning he is old underneath the mask. Therefore he cannot be using Shisui's body, as Shisui was young when Itachi killed him.

That's what I thought at first.
But remember, Orochimaru retained certain features (like creepy snake
eyes) when he took bodies. That and Kimmimaro saying that one with
an immortal soul still needs a new body made me think of this theory.

Also Kakuzu said that Immorality doesn't exist.

So Madara is likely a ghost using Shisui's body.


You were just testing if I knew 2<5.


Of course he's fictional, it's elementary my dear Watson. Ha, now I'm the smart great man that's not....Oh.

Really though what is their to predict. I would have to make up characters to predict anything, although it seems the main players are finally forming.

So therefore, Tenma, Dieter and Anna are the good guys. Monster is bad, but Eva is out of her gourd, so she will be evil too. Inspector Lunge thinks Tenma is out of his gourd, so he will inadvertently help Eva thus help Monster. By the way, did he get a voice change? Or maybe it's just me.

Still Madara is Dieter I just know it.

Did who get a voice change?

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 10:06 PM
That's what I thought at first.
But remember, Orochimaru retained certain features (like creepy snake
eyes) when he took bodies. That and Kimmimaro saying that one with
an immortal soul still needs a new body made me think of this theory.

Also Kakuzu said that Immorality doesn't exist.

So Madara is likely a ghost using Shisui's body.
But Madara is not Orochimaru. And if Madara could do soul transfers like him wouldn't he need a "live" subject to transfer to?

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 10:18 PM
But Madara is not Orochimaru. And if Madara could do soul transfers like him wouldn't he need a "live" subject to transfer to?

Yes, Madara isn't Orochimaru but it could have been a case of double
foreshadowing. Where you think it's referring to one thing but it's
actually referring to another. Kakuzu helps to further this point.

Well not necessarily. Orochimaru may have. But Madara is an Uchiha.
They get to cheat. Though perhaps Madara took Shisui's body
when he was alive? And Shisui's drowning was Madara (who was
just pretending then later teleports)

Chain of Hatred
04-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Yes, Madara isn't Orochimaru but it could have been a case of double
foreshadowing. Where you think it's referring to one thing but it's
actually referring to another. Kakuzu helps to further this point.

Well not necessarily. Orochimaru may have. But Madara is an Uchiha.
They get to cheat. Though perhaps Madara took Shisui's body
when he was alive? And Shisui's drowning was Madara (who was
just pretending then later teleports)
Now you seem to be just throwing stuff out there, but you're right about the Uchiha. It's improbable, but not impossible.

mrsticky005
04-17-2010, 10:30 PM
Now you seem to be just throwing stuff out there, but you're right about the Uchiha. It's improbable, but not impossible.


Hey, recycling plots happens all the time in manga.

Wooster
04-18-2010, 07:52 AM
Did who get a voice change?
Inspector Lunge.

It seems less cartoony unemotional and now just dispassionate.
But perhaps it's just me.

mrsticky005
04-18-2010, 08:35 AM
Inspector Lunge.

It seems less cartoony unemotional and now just dispassionate.
But perhaps it's just me.


It's the same voice actor. He probably just got more in character.

MinatoUchiha
04-18-2010, 05:03 PM
is this your completed theory of the one we discussed mrsticky005??

mrsticky005
04-18-2010, 05:05 PM
is this your completed theory of the one we discussed mrsticky005??

I think me and Wooster are just joking around here.

MinatoUchiha
04-18-2010, 05:07 PM
oh ok then...carry on

mrsticky005
04-18-2010, 05:13 PM
oh ok then...carry on

The stuff about inspector lunge and what not is from a different manga.

MinatoUchiha
04-18-2010, 05:15 PM
The stuff about inspector lunge and what not is from a different manga.
oh i didnt read that.. i read the first page... but im still hanging on to our probably-unlikely theory that Obito was Shisuis older brother

mrsticky005
04-18-2010, 06:20 PM
oh i didnt read that.. i read the first page... but im still hanging on to our probably-unlikely theory that Obito was Shisuis older brother


How is it probably unlikely?

MinatoUchiha
04-18-2010, 07:37 PM
How is it probably unlikely?
because we dont have much proof except a timespan and age for the 2...so i think we need to try to find more evidence `@x)

mrsticky005
04-18-2010, 10:31 PM
because we dont have much proof except a timespan and age for the 2...so i think we need to try to find more evidence `@x)


evidence would help indeed

Takoda
04-18-2010, 10:44 PM
Compared to Tobi's personality, Madara's true personality is considerably calmer and much more serious, but he still has a habit of joking around and disrespecting everyone around him.

Despite his current limitations in battle, he is extremely arrogant, insulting even the strongest ninja and treating Akatsuki members as mere tools.

oh i didnt read that.. i read the first page... but im still hanging on to our probably-unlikely theory that Obito was Shisuis older brother

Obito and Izuna Uchiha have some similarities:

They both died in battle.

Both gave their Sharingan to another person.

They have the same birthday as well as the same blood type.