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Narutosan
04-15-2010, 04:18 PM
Who would win?

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 05:20 PM
Killer Bee can blitz Itachi the same way he blitzed Sasuke with tails. Or he can simply use Hachibi Blast, since Itachi cannot defend against it.

Some argue that Susanoo can tank it, but without any feats to support that, it's hard to assume such a feat is possible without use of hype.

e710
04-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Killer Bee can blitz Itachi the same way he blitzed Sasuke with tails. Or he can simply use Hachibi Blast, since Itachi cannot defend against it.

Some argue that Susanoo can tank it, but without any feats to support that, it's hard to assume such a feat is possible without use of hype.

Susano' could without a doubt tank a Hachabi blast cause Itachi's susano' TANKED FRIGGEN LIGHTING from Sasuke. Also Tsyukami could knock him out or ammy.

Daybreak
04-15-2010, 06:10 PM
Susano' could without a doubt tank a Hachabi blast cause Itachi's susano' TANKED FRIGGEN LIGHTING from Sasuke. Also Tsyukami could knock him out or ammy.

Tsuki can be broken out of quickly due to hachibi. And as long as KB isnt in full hachibi mode then he should have the speed to dodge ammy.

e710
04-15-2010, 06:16 PM
Tsuki can be broken out of quickly due to hachibi. And as long as KB isnt in full hachibi mode then he should have the speed to dodge ammy.

That was Sasuke's Tsuki and it just might have been regular genjutsu. Also in the very begging of Shippuden Kakashi said that Itachi's MS genjutsu is much better then regular and that flowing your chakra to someone wouldn't work.

Rotate
04-15-2010, 06:22 PM
If Itachi was at his max he would use a killer genjutsu or tyjutsu against bee. Or even use amaretsu on him like sasuke did. Itachi would be in more control though than sasuke was. If itachi got too close, bee would pretty much slice him or just destroy him with the 8 tailed demon.

WindScar22
04-15-2010, 06:22 PM
Itachi uses Susano'o.
He uses his invincible shield to deflect a Hachibi Blast back at Hachibi and then sends him to Akatsuki. GG KB.

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 06:24 PM
Susano' could without a doubt tank a Hachabi blast cause Itachi's susano' TANKED FRIGGEN LIGHTING from Sasuke. Also Tsyukami could knock him out or ammy.

So what if it tanked lightning? The same lightning that busted, what, a hill at best?

Me thinks mountains>>>>>>>>Hills. Just a thought.

That was Sasuke's Tsuki and it just might have been regular genjutsu. Also in the very begging of Shippuden Kakashi said that Itachi's MS genjutsu is much better then regular and that flowing your chakra to someone wouldn't work.

Regular genjutsu? At the least it was MS genjutsu, that was clear, and it had no effect on KB. Also it's a bit hard to use Tsukuyomi if you can hardly track the opponent.

What does Itachi's MS genjutsu have to do in comparison to Sasuke's? Most likely he was more skilled and experienced in the use of it, but MS genjutsu is still MS genjutsu, also, Killer Bee was the first person to encounter MS Sasuke in a fight, so it's not like there was anything to prove that Itachi's MS genjutsu was "superior to others", since there weren't any others to compare it to.

e710
04-15-2010, 06:26 PM
So what if it tanked lightning? The same lightning that busted, what, a hill at best?

Me thinks mountains>>>>>>>>Hills. Just a thought.



Regular genjutsu? At the least it was MS genjutsu, that was clear, and it had no effect on KB. Also it's a bit hard to use Tsukuyomi if you can hardly track the opponent.

What does Itachi's MS genjutsu have to do in comparison to Sasuke's? Most likely he was more skilled and experienced in the use of it, but MS genjutsu is still MS genjutsu, also, Killer Bee was the first person to encounter MS Sasuke in a fight, so it's not like there was anything to prove that Itachi's MS genjutsu was "superior to others", since there weren't any others to compare it to.

Danzo straight up said Itachi's genjutsu's better and prove that was Tsukuyomi. Also Itachi could use susano' and put KB in the genjustu relam.

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 06:29 PM
Danzo straight up said Itachi's genjutsu's better and prove that was Tsukuyomi. Also Itachi could use susano' and put KB in the genjustu relam.

Words mean nothing in Narutoverse, Zabuza said Haku was stronger than him, but that was taken as moot.

I never claimed that was Tsukuyomi, but anything less is easy for Killer Bee to escape from.

Killer Bee can easily outlast Itachi's Susanoo. Itachi hasn't been known for good stamina and Killer Bee is a top tier speedster, Itachi would not hit him with Totsuka Sword.

e710
04-15-2010, 06:33 PM
Words mean nothing in Narutoverse, Zabuza said Haku was stronger than him, but that was taken as moot.

I never claimed that was Tsukuyomi, but anything less is easy for Killer Bee to escape from.


Ah you kinda admit that Tsukuyomi could take care of KB and Itachi doesn't need to make eye contact. Also Itachi's sharingan could help him track KB's movement and he could catch him under Tsukuyomi.

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 06:42 PM
Ah you kinda admit that Tsukuyomi could take care of KB and Itachi doesn't need to make eye contact. Also Itachi's sharingan could help him track KB's movement and he could catch him under Tsukuyomi.

It's very possible KB can escape it though, considering Hachibi is basically a part of Killer Bee.

Who said Itachi didn't need eye contact to use Tsukuyomi? That's the one technique where it's required.

The same Killer Bee that Sasuke barely kept up with? Also, do note that Sasuke was stomped by Killer Bee when he used THREE tails. He didn't even use Version 2 or anything. Considering Killer Bee used less than half of the possible tails, if he went seven tails, Itachi would be blitzed. Also, supposing Itachi does land Tsukuyomi, that means he's so close that he's already got a Lariat in his chest. While Killer Bee might be thrown off balance, Itachi would have guts blown to bits.

e710
04-15-2010, 06:49 PM
It's very possible KB can escape it though, considering Hachibi is basically a part of Killer Bee.

Who said Itachi didn't need eye contact to use Tsukuyomi? That's the one technique where it's required.

The same Killer Bee that Sasuke barely kept up with? Also, do note that Sasuke was stomped by Killer Bee when he used THREE tails. He didn't even use Version 2 or anything. Considering Killer Bee used less than half of the possible tails, if he went seven tails, Itachi would be blitzed. Also, supposing Itachi does land Tsukuyomi, that means he's so close that he's already got a Lariat in his chest. While Killer Bee might be thrown off balance, Itachi would have guts blown to bits.

He put Naruto in a genjutsu without eye contact. Also do note that Sasuke didn't have susano' back then which would have helped him greatly. Also I think Itachi's susano' reaction speed is pretty good since it got the lighting before it him. Also if KB gets caught in genjustu he would fall like a rock like he did VS sasuke but briefly and like I said we don't know if that was Tsukuyomi. Also knowing KB he would probably get pissed with Itachi's susano' and go full 8 tails and IF he tries a blasts it will take awhile to charge and Itachi could ammy the 8tails like Sasuke.

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 06:53 PM
He put Naruto in a genjutsu without eye contact. Also do note that Sasuke didn't have susano' back then which would have helped him greatly. Also I think Itachi's susano' reaction speed is pretty good since it got the lighting before it him. Also if KB gets caught in genjustu he would fall like a rock like he did VS sasuke but briefly and like I said we don't know if that was Tsukuyomi. Also knowing KB he would probably get pissed with Itachi's susano' and go full 8 tails and IF he tries a blasts it will take awhile to charge and Itachi could ammy the 8tails like Sasuke.

Except that's not Tsukuyomi, that is regular genjutsu. No proof exists that he can do the same for Tsukuyomi, otherwise it would have been very simple to do so with his fingers.

How do you know he did not just put up Susanoo before Sasuke used the lightning? Last thing we saw before Kirin struck was a close up of Itachi, with that we have no way to prove whether he "reacted" to the lightning or not.

If your fast, deadly opponent suddenly got uber slow, then I would think that Killer Bee would use his speed to his advantage.

Takes time to charge? Apparently it took so much time to charge that Sasuke had no time to attack him.

Eight Tailed Blast could easily blast right to Itachi, destroying him.

People say Susanoo can tank anything, but the only thing we can prove it tanks is hill busting attacks at best, everything else is mere speculation.

WindScar22
04-15-2010, 06:57 PM
What if he uses his invincible sheild and deflects it back at Bee?

e710
04-15-2010, 06:59 PM
At that point Itachi was faster then Sasuke, but I'm not saying Itachi is as fast as KB but he can keep up better than Sasuke. Also as you saw Raikage VS Sasuke, Sasuke's susano' tanked all of Raikage's attacks while Sasuke was hitting with Ammy. Itachi might be able to do the same but he could not keep it up for long. Also I think the 8 tails gets ammy before he uses his blast.

Miles Edgeworth
04-15-2010, 08:12 PM
At that point Itachi was faster then Sasuke, but I'm not saying Itachi is as fast as KB but he can keep up better than Sasuke. Also as you saw Raikage VS Sasuke, Sasuke's susano' tanked all of Raikage's attacks while Sasuke was hitting with Ammy. Itachi might be able to do the same but he could not keep it up for long. Also I think the 8 tails gets ammy before he uses his blast.

Faster by a small amount, if anything. It's not like he had the speed to blitz Sasuke.

Except Killer Bee's attacks are more powerful than Raikage's.

If Itachi misused Amaterasu, he would lose a lot of energy. The only possible chance he has to hit him is if he uses Hachibi, and that's not really necessary.

Phoenix Wright
04-15-2010, 08:17 PM
Killer Bee can blitz Itachi the same way he blitzed Sasuke with tails. Or he can simply use Hachibi Blast, since Itachi cannot defend against it.

Some argue that Susanoo can tank it, but without any feats to support that, it's hard to assume such a feat is possible without use of hype. That's what I was gonna say -_-

So what if it tanked lightning? The same lightning that busted, what, a hill at best?

Me thinks mountains>>>>>>>>Hills. Just a thought.



Regular genjutsu? At the least it was MS genjutsu, that was clear, and it had no effect on KB. Also it's a bit hard to use Tsukuyomi if you can hardly track the opponent.

What does Itachi's MS genjutsu have to do in comparison to Sasuke's? Most likely he was more skilled and experienced in the use of it, but MS genjutsu is still MS genjutsu, also, Killer Bee was the first person to encounter MS Sasuke in a fight, so it's not like there was anything to prove that Itachi's MS genjutsu was "superior to others", since there weren't any others to compare it to.
Anyway, there's the same debate Kisame got pissed about, wut Lightning reaction?
Danzo straight up said Itachi's genjutsu's better and prove that was Tsukuyomi. Also Itachi could use susano' and put KB in the genjustu relam.
Okay I'm gonna skip this and prove a point below.
At that point Itachi was faster then Sasuke, but I'm not saying Itachi is as fast as KB but he can keep up better than Sasuke. Also as you saw Raikage VS Sasuke, Sasuke's susano' tanked all of Raikage's attacks while Sasuke was hitting with Ammy. Itachi might be able to do the same but he could not keep it up for long. Also I think the 8 tails gets ammy before he uses his blast.
Blah Blah, some Debate, okay. Now we're at one of the last posts. KB escaped Tsukiyomi easily because he can't be put in Genjutsu, just because Itachi's Gen is stronger means that he can be caught in it? Two Companions>>>Genjutsu. The first post of the thread still stands.

prasanth
04-16-2010, 12:29 PM
itachi is faster than KB without tails and itachi's hand-to-hand taijutsu is basically the same althouth with weapons its tough to say

Yellow Flash
04-16-2010, 12:34 PM
itachi is faster than KB without tails and itachi's hand-to-hand taijutsu is basically the same althouth with weapons its tough to say
You mean the same Killer Bee that almost blitzed Sasuke in base?

Nice try but thats a fail.

Itachi gets a Lariat to the chest and dies, GG.

prasanth
05-08-2010, 06:40 PM
You mean the same Killer Bee that almost blitzed Sasuke in base?

Nice try but thats a fail.

Itachi gets a Lariat to the chest and dies, GG.

just no, an ammy will kill him, KB isnt that fast to dodge it, only raikage in shroud lvl 2 is fast enough and he only barely mangaed to dodge it by a few inches so ammy alone can kill him