Hatake Tsuchi
04-04-2010, 08:53 PM
This thread isn't to compare the characters, but rather just their Two Susano'o. It seems to me that most people think that Itachi's is better because it has the Totsuka Sword and the Yata-Mirror while they believe Sasuke's does not hence making it inferior (Though i think its clear the Bow on Sasuke's is another Form of the Yata-Mirror thats not important).
So even if we assume Sasuke's doesn't have the Mirror and the Totosuka Sword i believe Sasuke's is Still Better and here's the reasons why.
Defense
Looking at both of their defenses the best anyone can say is that their defense is equal. Both are obviously not invincible as they have a shield of some sorts for extra defense.
As for their Shields even if Sasuke's isn't the Yata Shield how can one say that the Yata Shield has a greater defense then Sasuke's Bow - Shield? We have seen nether be pierced by an attack and in-fact Sasuke's Bow - Shield has better tanking feats then the Yata-Shield as it Tanked Danzo's Giant Fuuton Blast and the best thing the Yata-Shield tanked was the Explosive Tag - Kunai Barrage from Sasuke or a straight up physical attack from Yamata no Orochi (Which ever you consider to have the greater offense).
So Really its baseless to claim one has greater defense then the other. So for the sake of argument lets say they are equal.
Offense
Now Itachi's appears to have better offense then Sasuke's Susano'o as he has the Totsuka Sword which has its broken Sealing Genjutsu. However how much difference does this make?
I mean honestly how many people are going to survive this (http://www.;);););););););).com/Naruto/478/14/)
The only person i can think of is basically Orochimaru and i'm not sure if Sasuke shot one of those arrows through his head if it wouldn't kill him.
Every one other then Oro that i can think off if hit directly would be killed by the Arrow just the same as the Totsuka sword.
There are also ways that Sasuke can increase the offensive might of his Susano'o such as shape manipulating Amaterasu around his arrows and such.
Now that covers direct hits, but what about avoiding Susano'o's attacks. To me far more people can avoid Itachi's Susano'o's offensive game then they can Sasuke's Susano'o which brings us to ---
Versatility
So up to this point Itachi's Susano'o has a small advantage in offense, but here is the reason why i consider Sasuke's Susano'o far better Itachi's Susano'o.
Itachi's Susano'o has a simple Sword and thats it. Being a large weapon it has a large range, but its still fairly limited in Range and attack style. What exactly would Itachi's Susano'o be capable of against Flying Enemies or enemies that fought at long range. It could defend but completely lacks an offense. Sasuke's Doesn't and can fight extremely effectively at all ranges.
Though a Sword Stroke from a fast moving giant sword is hard to avoid it hardly compares to barrage of arrows from Sasuke's Susano'o. And if Kishimoto follows any type of logic at all then Arrows Fired from a bow by Sasuke's Susano'o would be a-lot faster then Itachi's Susano'o could possibly wield its sword. Just like an arrow shot from a bow can move a-lot faster then a stroke of the sword.
And of course we should look at the fact that Sasuke is capable of using a sword with his Susano'o as well so he has the best of both worlds.
Conclusion
At least to me Sasuke's Susano'o is better. Their Defense is Equal or at the very least their Defenses are both strong enough that at this point in the manga any difference between them is indistinguishable.
Itachi's Susano'o may be a bit better in Offensive might, however against 99% of the enemies we have seen so far the effectiveness of Sasuke's Susano'o's Offensive might is going to be exactly the same as Itachi's so as of now its a very small advantage over Sasuke's.
While Sasuke's Susano'o far Surpasses itachi's in Versatility and because of this Difficulty to dodge - evade the attacks of. Thus making Sasuke's Susano'o better overall.
Please take note that i'm not making this thread to imply who is the stronger of the two i am simply talking about the strength of their Susano'o' and the effectiveness of each of their versions of the Susano'o technique in battle nothing more nothing less.
So even if we assume Sasuke's doesn't have the Mirror and the Totosuka Sword i believe Sasuke's is Still Better and here's the reasons why.
Defense
Looking at both of their defenses the best anyone can say is that their defense is equal. Both are obviously not invincible as they have a shield of some sorts for extra defense.
As for their Shields even if Sasuke's isn't the Yata Shield how can one say that the Yata Shield has a greater defense then Sasuke's Bow - Shield? We have seen nether be pierced by an attack and in-fact Sasuke's Bow - Shield has better tanking feats then the Yata-Shield as it Tanked Danzo's Giant Fuuton Blast and the best thing the Yata-Shield tanked was the Explosive Tag - Kunai Barrage from Sasuke or a straight up physical attack from Yamata no Orochi (Which ever you consider to have the greater offense).
So Really its baseless to claim one has greater defense then the other. So for the sake of argument lets say they are equal.
Offense
Now Itachi's appears to have better offense then Sasuke's Susano'o as he has the Totsuka Sword which has its broken Sealing Genjutsu. However how much difference does this make?
I mean honestly how many people are going to survive this (http://www.;);););););););).com/Naruto/478/14/)
The only person i can think of is basically Orochimaru and i'm not sure if Sasuke shot one of those arrows through his head if it wouldn't kill him.
Every one other then Oro that i can think off if hit directly would be killed by the Arrow just the same as the Totsuka sword.
There are also ways that Sasuke can increase the offensive might of his Susano'o such as shape manipulating Amaterasu around his arrows and such.
Now that covers direct hits, but what about avoiding Susano'o's attacks. To me far more people can avoid Itachi's Susano'o's offensive game then they can Sasuke's Susano'o which brings us to ---
Versatility
So up to this point Itachi's Susano'o has a small advantage in offense, but here is the reason why i consider Sasuke's Susano'o far better Itachi's Susano'o.
Itachi's Susano'o has a simple Sword and thats it. Being a large weapon it has a large range, but its still fairly limited in Range and attack style. What exactly would Itachi's Susano'o be capable of against Flying Enemies or enemies that fought at long range. It could defend but completely lacks an offense. Sasuke's Doesn't and can fight extremely effectively at all ranges.
Though a Sword Stroke from a fast moving giant sword is hard to avoid it hardly compares to barrage of arrows from Sasuke's Susano'o. And if Kishimoto follows any type of logic at all then Arrows Fired from a bow by Sasuke's Susano'o would be a-lot faster then Itachi's Susano'o could possibly wield its sword. Just like an arrow shot from a bow can move a-lot faster then a stroke of the sword.
And of course we should look at the fact that Sasuke is capable of using a sword with his Susano'o as well so he has the best of both worlds.
Conclusion
At least to me Sasuke's Susano'o is better. Their Defense is Equal or at the very least their Defenses are both strong enough that at this point in the manga any difference between them is indistinguishable.
Itachi's Susano'o may be a bit better in Offensive might, however against 99% of the enemies we have seen so far the effectiveness of Sasuke's Susano'o's Offensive might is going to be exactly the same as Itachi's so as of now its a very small advantage over Sasuke's.
While Sasuke's Susano'o far Surpasses itachi's in Versatility and because of this Difficulty to dodge - evade the attacks of. Thus making Sasuke's Susano'o better overall.
Please take note that i'm not making this thread to imply who is the stronger of the two i am simply talking about the strength of their Susano'o' and the effectiveness of each of their versions of the Susano'o technique in battle nothing more nothing less.