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prasanth
04-03-2010, 12:08 PM
no jinchuriki transformations

apart from that who wins?

SageoftheSixPaths
04-03-2010, 01:47 PM
Killer Bee owns Kisame
Raikage owns Kakuzu
Brothers win!!!!
No.
Yes.

Kisame already beat Killer Bee, minus the whole Samehada plot thing.

Kisame can beat Killer Bee, but if they're smart enough to simply run away from him and take out Kakuzu right away, the brothers would win. The two of them together can simply Lariat Kisame's head off again once it's two on one. In a one on one matchup, Kisame pretty much beats anyone. However, in a two on one matchup in the brothers' favor, Kisame loses.

Berzakinski
04-03-2010, 01:50 PM
Kakuzu is most likely to die first in this fight if he can't get his hearts out, due to KB and A having lightning jutsus that could pierce Iron Skin.

Kisame could cover Kakuzu by holding off the brothers by absorbing their chakras (more importantly, Raikage's Raiton armor). Once the masks are out, Kisame could warn Kakuzu to keep his distance while he creates Water Dome. Once the brothers are trapped in the dome Kisame could severely weaken them. If any of the brothers try to escape the dome, they'd have to face Kakuzu and his masks, giving Kisamehada time to trap them back in the dome.

I'd say Kisamehada and Kakuzu win this most likely.

SageoftheSixPaths
04-03-2010, 01:52 PM
Kakuzu is most likely to die first in this fight if he can't get his hearts out, due to KB and A having lightning jutsus that could pierce Iron Skin.

Kisame could cover Kakuzu by holding off the brothers by absorbing their chakras (more importantly, Raikage's Raiton armor). Once the masks are out, Kisame could warn Kakuzu to keep his distance while he creates Water Dome. Once the brothers are trapped in the dome Kisame could severely weaken them. If any of the brothers try to escape the dome, they'd have to face Kakuzu and his masks, giving Kisamehada time to trap them back in the dome.

I'd say Kisamehada and Kakuzu win this most likely.
Even a weakened Raikage can beat Kakuzu with ease. In base he can still blitz him. Kill Bee can do the same. Kisame is the only threat here, since Kakuzu will get blitzed before he can get covered by Kisame. Either way, Kisame can't protect him from both brothers at the same time. Considering Raikage and Kill Bee both have Jinchuriki level chakra, they'll have enough to spare once Kisame sucks out a little bit of it.

Berzakinski
04-03-2010, 01:57 PM
Even a weakened Raikage can beat Kakuzu with ease. In base he can still blitz him. Kill Bee can do the same. Kisame is the only threat here, since Kakuzu will get blitzed before he can get covered by Kisame. Either way, Kisame can't protect him from both brothers at the same time. Considering Raikage and Kill Bee both have Jinchuriki level chakra, they'll have enough to spare once Kisame sucks out a little bit of it.
No jinchuriki transformations, meaning KB is pretty handicapped in this fight. If things were different then I'd agree.

SageoftheSixPaths
04-03-2010, 01:58 PM
No jinchuriki transformations, meaning KB is pretty handicapped in this fight. If things were different then I'd agree.
Doesn't matter. He still has Jinchuriki level chakra. Even in base mode he can beat Kakuzu with a simple speed blitz and Lariat combo. Combine that with A's Raiton Armor and both of their crazy speed/ chakra levels, they'd win.

Miles Edgeworth
04-03-2010, 02:01 PM
Left side takes this.

No jinchuriki transformations means Killer Bee gets stomped by Kisame. Base Killer Bee really can't do anything to Kisame.

Raikage is still a problem but I doubt he can take out Kisame, Kakuzu isn't gonna make much of a difference but he could probably help with elemental blasts and what not.

prasanth
04-03-2010, 02:08 PM
Even a weakened Raikage can beat Kakuzu with ease. In base he can still blitz him. Kill Bee can do the same. Kisame is the only threat here, since Kakuzu will get blitzed before he can get covered by Kisame. Either way, Kisame can't protect him from both brothers at the same time. Considering Raikage and Kill Bee both have Jinchuriki level chakra, they'll have enough to spare once Kisame sucks out a little bit of it.

woah woah woah! kakuzu WILL NOT get blitzted that quickly by raikage, they will batlle it out for a while and it will be hard to predict who wins

J-Sun Tasogare
04-03-2010, 02:17 PM
woah woah woah! kakuzu WILL NOT get blitzted that quickly by raikage, they will batlle it out for a while and it will be hard to predict who wins
Umm Kazuku's main body couldn't keep up with Kakashi that well and Raikage>>>>Kakashi.

prasanth
04-03-2010, 02:21 PM
Umm Kazuku's main body couldn't keep up with Kakashi that well and Raikage>>>>Kakashi.

kakuzu was all over kakashi, both taijutsu and ninjutsu and obvz raikage is better than kakashi but so was kakzuzu so it will not be decided that quickly

J-Sun Tasogare
04-03-2010, 02:25 PM
kakuzu was all over kakashi, both taijutsu and ninjutsu and obvz raikage is better than kakashi but so was kakzuzu so it will not be decided that quickly
Can you prove that Kakuzu has the reaction time even near Sasuke's who has the Sharingan and Sasuke was still having tremendous trouble keeping with with A.

Zeek Uchiha
04-03-2010, 02:32 PM
kakuzu was all over kakashi, both taijutsu and ninjutsu and obvz raikage is better than kakashi but so was kakzuzu so it will not be decided that quicklyHe wasn't all over Kakashi He got out smarted and underestimated Kakashi and got stabbed and RaiKage would demolish Kakuzu

prasanth
04-03-2010, 02:32 PM
Can you prove that Kakuzu has the reaction time even near Sasuke's who has the Sharingan and Sasuke was still having tremendous trouble keeping with with A.

well kakashi has a sharingan and he cudnt keep up with kakuzu, besides kakuzu can elemental spam with his monsters flying around everywhere and how can A possibly kill them when they can fly!?

J-Sun Tasogare
04-03-2010, 02:39 PM
well kakashi has a sharingan and he cudnt keep up with kakuzu, besides kakuzu can elemental spam with his monsters flying around everywhere and how can A possibly kill them when they can fly!?
Simple he kills Kakuzu's earth heart his main one that controls the other four and are you saying Kakashi>Sasuke in speed or even Kakashi=Sasuke in speed plus Kakashi's sharingan predictions are weaker only half as effective.

prasanth
04-03-2010, 02:49 PM
Simple he kills Kakuzu's earth heart his main one that controls the other four and are you saying Kakashi>Sasuke in speed or even Kakashi=Sasuke in speed plus Kakashi's sharingan predictions are weaker only half as effective.

if he kills his main heart that doesnt mean all the monsters die, the monsters are still alive but his main body is dead. and kakashi is about equal to sasuke without mangekyo sharingan

J-Sun Tasogare
04-03-2010, 03:00 PM
if he kills his main heart that doesnt mean all the monsters die, the monsters are still alive but his main body is dead. and kakashi is about equal to sasuke without mangekyo sharingan
Nope your a Kazuku/Kakashi wanker they aren't equal not even about. Once the main body is destroyed the beasts are well beasts they will just go crazy unless you prove they have independent minds.

Berzakinski
04-03-2010, 06:29 PM
Nope your a Kazuku/Kakashi wanker they aren't equal not even about. Once the main body is destroyed the beasts are well beasts they will just go crazy unless you prove they have independent minds.
Kakashi had to ambush Kakuzu to take out his heart, otherwise Kakashi would've gotten kicked in the face.

Kakuzu was owning Kakashi in their true one-on-one fight; he nearly killed Kakashi not once, but TWICE. Kakuzu kicked him into a tree, owned him with Fuuton Atsugai, made him use 2 lightning blades against a Raiton, nearly took his heart with his threads, AND almost burnt him to a crisp. If that isn't getting owned, I don't know what is.

Do you even read the manga? When Kakuzu died, the masks headed for his body and dodged Choji's attacks. That means they have a basic strategy without Kakuzu being alive.

prasanth
04-04-2010, 06:15 AM
Kakashi had to ambush Kakuzu to take out his heart, otherwise Kakashi would've gotten kicked in the face.

Kakuzu was owning Kakashi in their true one-on-one fight; he nearly killed Kakashi not once, but TWICE. Kakuzu kicked him into a tree, owned him with Fuuton Atsugai, made him use 2 lightning blades against a Raiton, nearly took his heart with his threads, AND almost burnt him to a crisp. If that isn't getting owned, I don't know what is.

Do you even read the manga? When Kakuzu died, the masks headed for his body and dodged Choji's attacks. That means they have a basic strategy without Kakuzu being alive.

exactly, kakuzu is on another level to kakashi

prasanth
04-04-2010, 06:16 AM
Nope your a Kazuku/Kakashi wanker they aren't equal not even about. Once the main body is destroyed the beasts are well beasts they will just go crazy unless you prove they have independent minds.

no need for that kind of language when u know you are wrong

arsenakos
04-04-2010, 06:37 AM
kisame could win this fight without kakuzu

prasanth
04-04-2010, 06:41 AM
kisame could win this fight without kakuzu

possibly, it is a tough battle none the less i mean kisame could do all the main damage then kakuzu can play a supporting role with his monsters flying around annihalting evryone

Tourune
04-04-2010, 05:51 PM
A kills kakuzu and b4 killer bee dies from kisame double larit

Akatsuki X
04-04-2010, 07:54 PM
A kills kakuzu and b4 killer bee dies from kisame double larit

So your saying Kisame just watches while A kills Kakuzu

and then watches while he gets double lariated?

you have some debating issues to overcome my friend.

prasanth
04-08-2010, 04:49 AM
A kills kakuzu and b4 killer bee dies from kisame double larit

your pretty bad at this, i suggest deleting your account and getting out some more

e710
04-08-2010, 07:53 AM
Kakuzu get beheaded and so does Kisame by douple larint.

J-Sun Tasogare
04-08-2010, 08:22 AM
Without Demon Cloak KB would have lost against Kisame a looooot sooner so I say he can get out a Water Dome before KB does any damage he can heal from. Then He fuses and kills KB. Now Kakuzu vs Raikage could go 2 ways either Kazu starts with masks in and loses or they or out and he wins. If they are out 1 or 2 hearts might die before water dome. But if any hearts live they don't have to breath so therefore he can win cause Kisame can easily behead Raikage right after Kb.

prasanth
04-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Without Demon Cloak KB would have lost against Kisame a looooot sooner so I say he can get out a Water Dome before KB does any damage he can heal from. Then He fuses and kills KB. Now Kakuzu vs Raikage could go 2 ways either Kazu starts with masks in and loses or they or out and he wins. If they are out 1 or 2 hearts might die before water dome. But if any hearts live they don't have to breath so therefore he can win cause Kisame can easily behead Raikage right after Kb.


completely agree with you there!