Minato vs A

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

so who do you think will win in the fight of the yondaimes, please support your answer.

[toad]

who is "a"

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

raikage

[arsenakos]

minato would win

[Yori]

Battle of Speed Eh? Tough one but I say Minato, A wouldn't catch on Minato's teleportation trick that easy

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

did i not state to give a reason y?
jeez, dont just say he would win without backing it u, give a reason, a good one
EDIT: directed towards aresenakos

[toad]

raikage
in that case minato pwns him easily

[arsenakos]

why you see someone to give reasons here

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

in that case minato pwns him easily
wow did i not just say give a reason y???
Fail

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

why you see someone to give reasons here
that doesnt make sense, nothing you say does, you needa learn to talk

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

Battle of Speed Eh? Tough one but I say Minato, A wouldn't catch on Minato's teleportation trick that easy
i believe A would realize it quickly, he is not stupid....but you do have a good point there...and minato with sage mode would beast, he would then be equal in strength with A

[toad]

wow did i not just say give a reason y???
Fail
ok my bad lol



minato wins becuase he was know as one of the greatest ninja, he was able to fight the 9 tail and seal it, in the kakashi gaiden arc, he took out many enemys by himself, he invented the rasenghan, a very powerful jutsu, he replaced the 3rd hokage as the hokage, he was trained under jaryai a sannin, and trained kakashi hatake, and he also was able to go sage mode

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

ok thats good
but id give examples and reasons y all the time
because people around here are getting pissed at n they will down rep and stuff
read TDZs thread: READ: I'm cracking down on spammers (http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42245)

[arsenakos]

oh you said to me that from where i must start that minato is wind style and A is lightining style and wind release is naturally strong against lightinig techniques,A cant catch up with minato teleportation

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

a has lightning armor that can protect him if minato sneeks up on him
also A is very fast too

[Kakashi-sama]

can i say even match? x_x...

[arsenakos]

A is fast as minato but am tolking about minato tricks

[ECW Original]

E blitzes and Batista bombs Minato.This is a horrible rape.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

not really, minato would just dodge him, give him one hit to transfer his jutsu so he can teleport to him, then jump away
not a rape at all, i either say fight goes to minato
or i agree with kakashi-sama

[ECW Original]

E is way faster than Minato.He ain't dodging squat,dood.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

hell no he aint
minato is extremely fast, and nothing but madara is faster than his teleport jutsu

[ECW Original]

Minato's just overrated,dood.Horribly.
E can easily blitz him and beat the holy h*ll out of him without any real effort.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Minato's just overrated,dood.Horribly.
E can easily blitz him and beat the holy h*ll out of him without any real effort.
This is mostly true.

E takes this due to the fact that Minato has CLOSE TO NO FEATS.

As of now, the only abilities Minato shown is Rasengan, Flying Thunder God, and Reaper Sealing.

[ECW Original]

This is mostly true.

E takes this due to the fact that Minato has CLOSE TO NO FEATS.

As of now, the only abilities Minato shown is Rasengan, Flying Thunder God, and Reaper Sealing.

Yes,I know this,dood.
Until he's shown more stuff,he's still overrated.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

A is not faster than minato, there no way.
nothin but madaras transportation is the only thing faster than minatos teleportation

[Blind Uchiha]

Minato's just overrated,dood.Horribly.
E can easily blitz him and beat the holy h*ll out of him without any real effort.

Yeah, by feats Raikage stomps. However, by hype Minato could win due to C's comment that with Raiton Armor his speed is only comparable to Minato's speed.

[Nyruss]

Minato is only faster by hype. By feats, Raikage is easily the fastest guy around.

And there is nothing faster than Minato's teleportation because teleportation is instant. However, it still won't do him any good, because to use that teleportation he has to scatter a bunch of specially made kunai around the battlefield and he'll be dead before that happens.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

no not as long as he can hit his opponent
thenhe can transfer the seal onto the person
and transportatio is faster than teleportation

[Tourune]

it can go both wats actually.
Minato - he could use Reaper death seal jutsu on a
A - If minato tried to use his teliport jutsu A has an electrical body aura surrounding him for defense which can survive chidori (possibly rasengan too) so if minato comes close - kill. but ill have to go w/ minato

[Nyruss]

no not as long as he can hit his opponent
thenhe can transfer the seal onto the person

I don't remember this. Proof?

and transportatio is faster than teleportation

No. No it isn't. The reason being, that teleportation is instant. There is nothing faster than instant.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

well reaper death soul would only work if minato tires A out some, he is most likely able to break the jutsu.
but no minatos rasengan would be able to break through his lightning aura

[ECW Original]

I don't remember this. Proof?



No. No it isn't. The reason being, that teleportation is instant. There is nothing faster than instant,except omnipresent.

fixed

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

I don't remember this. Proof?



No. No it isn't. The reason being, that teleportation is instant. There is nothing faster than instant.

1. kakashi gaiden arc. go back and watch/read it. kakashis fight with the clones and such.
2. hold on, ill try to find it where it is said

[321zigzag1]

well reaper death soul would only work if minato tires A out some, he is most likely able to break the jutsu.
but no minatos rasengan would be able to break through his lightning aura

Naruto Rasengan back in Part 1 cut through a Steel Water Tank.

Naruto's Rasengan and Chidori clashed with even results.

So Rasengan will do relatively minor damage to the Raikage.

We don't know how strong Minato's were.

Death Reaper is suicide.

[Nyruss]

Rasengan relies on a set amount of chakra. The more chakra is used in its creation, the bigger it gets and the stronger it is. At best, you could say that Minato's is slightly stronger than Part 1 Naruto's because his hand is bigger, but other than that, its strength is constant. There's no "Oh the Fourth>>>>> Naruto so his Rasengan >>>>> Naruto's"

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

actually his techniques is reffered to as a reverse summoning technique, without the smoke that appears.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

hell no he aint
minato is extremely fast, and nothing but madara is faster than his teleport jutsu
Raikage takes this he will speedblitz the fourth before he can get a kunai out and bash his head in.

[Fan of Minato]

Just logged on to say this, Raikage is the one that is truly overrated. Raikage has lesser feats than most characters yet he can beat them that easily.

If a new character is revealed, then that character is suddenly the most powerful one of the entire verse, huh?
(I bet you that some people will say Isshin will stomp Aizen now, as a matter of fact).

Minato can travel halfway around the world in the blink of an eye. Raikage has shown to dodge Amaterasu and thats it. Minato placed a seal on a guy's foot and took Kakashi away. I'm pretty sure he didn't use FTG when he got there, he did afterwards but not when he got there.

Also, Minato has a boss summon. And there is also Death Reaper seal. If not a win, it will be a tie.

I don't see how this is a stomp fight. =/ if someone loses its by a close margin but dun see how this would be a stomp fight. =[

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Just logged on to say this, Raikage is the one that is truly overrated. Raikage has lesser feats than most characters yet he can beat them that easily.

If a new character is revealed, then that character is suddenly the most powerful one of the entire verse, huh?
(I bet you that some people will say Isshin will stomp Aizen now, as a matter of fact).

Minato can travel halfway around the world in the blink of an eye. Raikage has shown to dodge Amaterasu and thats it. Minato placed a seal on a guy's foot and took Kakashi away. I'm pretty sure he didn't use FTG when he got there, he did afterwards but not when he got there.

Also, Minato has a boss summon. And there is also Death Reaper seal. If not a win, it will be a tie.

I don't see how this is a stomp fight. =/ if someone loses its by a close margin but dun see how this would be a stomp fight. =[
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[(un)Godly Hiroku]

pg 10 chapter 395
kakashi says it to himself
he says his space time jutsu is even greater than the fourths
because he is faster, doesnt need seals to transport to, and can transport parts of his body.

[crystalblade13]

why is ANYONE saying minato. raikage tanks anything the 4th can pull and speed-blitzes him into oblivion. one liger drop would be all that is necassary. maybe even one elbow.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Raikage stomps. Minato's Kunai, Rasengan, and even his Gama summons do nothing here. Raikage can blitz and own Gama through his massive strength and just dodging all his moves. Rasengan he tanks with ease. If Minato tries to go in close range for Taijutsu Raiton Armor demolishes him. Minato's only hope is Reaper Death Seal, and even then it's only a draw.

[Vivi]

Just logged on to say this, Raikage is the one that is truly overrated. Raikage has lesser feats than most characters yet he can beat them that easily.

If a new character is revealed, then that character is suddenly the most powerful one of the entire verse, huh?
(I bet you that some people will say Isshin will stomp Aizen now, as a matter of fact).

Minato can travel halfway around the world in the blink of an eye. Raikage has shown to dodge Amaterasu and thats it. Minato placed a seal on a guy's foot and took Kakashi away. I'm pretty sure he didn't use FTG when he got there, he did afterwards but not when he got there.

Also, Minato has a boss summon. And there is also Death Reaper seal. If not a win, it will be a tie.

I don't see how this is a stomp fight. =/ if someone loses its by a close margin but dun see how this would be a stomp fight. =[

Lesser Feats doesnt mean they're worse.

Only if they show Impressive Feats which Raikage did.

Proof for travelling around the World in that Speed?Thats a baseless assumption.

This is a stomp.Show me a Minato Durability Feat which is worth something.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Lesser Feats doesnt mean they're worse.

Only if they show Impressive Feats which Raikage did.

Proof for travelling around the World in that Speed?Thats a baseless assumption.

This is a stomp.Show me a Minato Durability Feat which is worth something.
He can teleport around the world if he has a seal placed on the other side of it. How he gets that seal there beats me, though.

As you always say, Quality>Quantity.

[Vivi]

He can teleport around the world if he has a seal placed on the other side of it. How he gets that seal there beats me, though.

As you always say, Quality>Quantity.

No proof for that.

For all we know he can teleport with FTG.Do we know up to how far?
No.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

Raikage takes this he will speedblitz the fourth before he can get a kunai out and bash his head in.
like i said before, his kunai arent needed watch/read the kakashi gaiden arc.(when he saves kakashi) youll see

[321zigzag1]

There is no actual limit for FTG in distance. If there is a seal there. Minato can go there.

Its a space time technique through the use of seal medium. There is no actual limit in theory.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

No proof for that.

For all we know he can teleport with FTG.Do we know up to how far?
No.
There presumably isn't a limit to it. I don't see why there would be. It's the same as a Summoning Jutsu in that it's a Time/ Space type. When you summon something it doesn't matter where it is, it will appear. Gamabunta could be on the other side of the world and he'd still appear instantly. The Kunai use the same type of Jutsu as that.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

and i was somewhat wrong, my bad
minato and madara have teleportation jutsu madaras is just better and faster
so i think i got mixed up somewhere, idk where i got the fact that madara uses transportation and minato uses teleportation. i cant find it anywhere
but still madara is faster thats the point

[Vivi]

like i said before, his kunai arent needed watch/read the kakashi gaiden arc.(when he saves kakashi) youll see

You mean against Fodder that was still able to inflict a Wound on Kakashi?

[crystalblade13]

speed doesnt matter when minato cant injur the raikage and the raikage can kill minato with ease.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

yes that but the point is that he can put the seal right on the person instead of using the kunai

[ECW Original]

like i said before, his kunai arent needed watch/read the kakashi gaiden arc.(when he saves kakashi) youll see

Kakashi had the kunai,

[321zigzag1]

Actually Minato can also place a seal on you.

But he can't do it on Raikage considering he has the Raiton Aura.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Actually Minato can also place a seal on you.

But he can't do it on Raikage considering he has the Raiton Aura.
^ This.

Raiton Armor prevents Minato from EVER being able to place a seal on A. Also, if Minato tries to place the seal he gets roflstomped before he can even complete it.

[Fan of Minato]

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Look up "FTG" lulululululululul.

It lets the user travel to any place that he places a seal. So if Minato places a seal on the moon he can travel there in the blink of an eye of course he'd die due to lack of oxygen.

Please check the facts before posting ridiculous pictures. If it wasn't for my "Ignore the ignorers" thing I would -rep you.

@V-V, looking from your perspective. Raikage was known to be hotheaded. What proof is there that he won't go crazy and kill himself? Is there any proof? after all there is manga evidence that he acts before he thinks.

What proof is there that he won't hit his own head with a lightning chop?

I'm not saying that Minato wins with his current feats, but am only arguing that this won't be a stomp fight.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

raiton armor is not invincible, like everyone is making it out to be, minato could cover his arm in chakra to get it through the armor with minimal damages, getting the seal onto A

[Kuromaki]

What proof is there that he won't go crazy and kill himself? Is there any proof? after all there is manga evidence that he acts before he thinks.

What proof is there that he won't hit his own head with a lightning chop?

Why would he do this?

Edit: Oh, I get why you're saying that...
raiton armor is not invincible, like everyone is making it out to be, minato could cover his arm in chakra to get it through the armor with minimal damages, getting the seal onto A
When has he shown the ability to do this?

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

and i was somewhat wrong, my bad
minato and madara have teleportation jutsu madaras is just better and faster
so i think i got mixed up somewhere, idk where i got the fact that madara uses transportation and minato uses teleportation. i cant find it anywhere
but still madara is faster thats the point
ok no episode 139 about 8 minutes in, it states teleportation are techniques suck as body flicker (extremely fast speeds).
and transportation is space time travel. so ya this is kind of off topic but im just clarifying this....
but this also means that minato travels through space and time, which means hes alot faster thatn any speed blitx there is

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Look up "FTG" lulululululululul.

It lets the user travel to any place that he places a seal. So if Minato places a seal on the moon he can travel there in the blink of an eye of course he'd die due to lack of oxygen.

Please check the facts before posting ridiculous pictures. If it wasn't for my "Ignore the ignorers" thing I would -rep you.

@V-V, looking from your perspective. Raikage was known to be hotheaded. What proof is there that he won't go crazy and kill himself? Is there any proof? after all there is manga evidence that he acts before he thinks.

What proof is there that he won't hit his own head with a lightning chop?

I'm not saying that Minato wins with his current feats, but am only arguing that this won't be a stomp fight.
Yes but he has to get to the moon first so that doesn't matter. The fact is Minato has no prep and would have to walk all the way around the world to place the seal soooo... yeah. Raikage was severely bloodlusted at that fight since his little brother had been captured or killed so Yeah.

[Lady Tsunade]

Minato tries to throw a Kunai for his teleportation Jutsu,in which time Raikage speedblitzes him and punches his head off

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

wow you clueless people dont get that he doesnt need to throw a kunai to transport.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

wow you clueless people dont get that he doesnt need to throw a kunai to transport.
Stop trolling and flaming people or I will downrep you.

[Juracule Mihawk]

Stop trolling and flaming people or I will downrep you.

How is he flaming and trolling?

And you need at least 2 rep power to down rep. Something he has and you don't.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

How is he flaming and trolling?

And you need at least 2 rep power to down rep. Something he has and you don't.
Actually I have been downrepped by people with 1 rep power before you need only 1 rep power. Going in and calling everyone usesless in a dead thread that the winner has already has been decided and stating the obvious seems pretty clueless.

[321zigzag1]

But thats not trolling. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/emotawesomepm9.gif

[Juracule Mihawk]

Going in and calling everyone usesless in a dead thread that the winner has already has been decided and stating the obvious seems pretty clueless.

How is your eyesight? It can't be good, since you misread clueless for useless.

This isn't exactly a class 1 rape thread, he has his reasons, you didn't prove him wrong, making you the spammer.

[321zigzag1]

Minato vs A isn't really rape because by hype Minato should win but by feats Minato is more likely to lose but because of his FTG he can put up a good fight.

[Kuromaki]

wow you clueless people dont get that he doesnt need to throw a kunai to transport.Yeah he can use a seal too but how would he get it on the Raikage with Raiton Armor?

[Yellow Flash]

Yeah he can use a seal too but how would he get it on the Raikage with Raiton Armor?
Minato is said to have around the same base speed as A although thats completely hype.

[J-Sun Tasogare]

But thats not trolling. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/emotawesomepm9.gif
It is annoying thoughhttp://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/emotawesomepm9.gif
wow you clueless people dont get that he doesnt need to throw a kunai to transport.
Ok I misread ok so how does this help him win at all? nope didn't think so this has already been said a million times.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

minato can stream chakra through his arm, making it more resistant and stronger, then when A blitz's he can dodge it and hit through his raiton armor, and put the seal on him, then he can transport behind him whenever he wants.
using rasengan on him over and over again... until A is down

[Kuromaki]

minato can stream chakra through his arm, making it more resistant and stronger
Like I said before. When has he shown the ability to do this?

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

? prety much any ninja can do this, all you do is concentrate chakra in your arm, if he can concentrate it and move it in various directions in his hand with another hands aid, then i believe he can do this, and if he couldnt do this then he would never have been a hokage, let alone the strongest, and youngest there has been.

[Kuromaki]

? prety much any ninja can do this, all you do is concentrate chakra in your arm, if he can concentrate it and move it in various directions in his hand with another hands aid, then i believe he can do this, and if he couldnt do this then he would never have been a hokage, let alone the strongest, and youngest there has been.
Creative idea but I haven't seen something like that. Especially from Minato who doesn't have that many feats to begin with.

[Yellow Flash]

Creative idea but I haven't seen something like that. Especially from Minato who doesn't have that many feats to begin with.
Hes making this assumptions off of feat that Minato is can use the Rasengan and this move is based on chakra control and thats basically is whats needed to use the Rasengan which further explains why mastering the Rasengan was so hard for Naruto.

[(un)Godly Hiroku]

and if he can do rasengan with one hand, he can easily stream chakra into his arm