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mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 01:39 PM
Anyone remember when Madara was able to find Sasuke and Team Taka so
easily in Chapter 453 and when Sasuke asked how, Madara replied that it
was within his power? Well if you noticed Zetsu was there too. Now that
Madara has revealed that he doesn't know what happened to Kisame it's
revealed that Madara is in not actually a sensor. He was able to find Sasuke
via Zetsu. So he was telling a half truth when he said it was within his power.

We also learned that Zetsu is unsurprisingly not strong. At least not strong enough to fight the Nine Tails. But to be fair, neither was Pain.

Also Sasuke didn't look the least bit happy to see Zetsu alive.

Be prepared for Sasuke fries Zetsu. Coming soon.

TheBlackChidori
03-11-2010, 02:09 PM
False. Zetsu carries the Shayakuneggan. He can kill his enemies by batting his eyelashes in an affectionate way. Truthfully at the Final Valley, he defeated the first hokage, then slapped madara til he cried, and made him admit defeat at his hands. Then he took over the identity of the first, created the leaf village, and batted his eyelashes and anyone who stood in his way from that moment on.

He just wants the demons for himself, because each lash is made out of a Bijuu, and he doesn't believe in makeup.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 02:11 PM
False. Zetsu carries the Shayakuneggan. He can kill his enemies by batting his eyelashes in an affectionate way. Truthfully at the Final Valley, he defeated the first hokage, then slapped madara til he cried, and made him admit defeat at his hands. Then he took over the identity of the first, created the leaf village, and batted his eyelashes and anyone who stood in his way from that moment on.

He just wants the demons for himself, because each lash is made out of a Bijuu, and he doesn't believe in makeup.

You keep telling yourself that.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
03-11-2010, 02:14 PM
Zetsu will kick everyone's ass with his sexiness. He was just playing with the Nine-Tails. Their uppence shall come. Zetsu will be the supreme ruling omnipotent of the entire Naruto Universe and all will bow to him in all pf his glorious beauty.

SageoftheSixPaths
03-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Zetsu has actually been absorbing the members of the Akatsuki and adding their powers to his own. Once he eats Madara, he'll become stronger than all the Bijuu combined. He will then (censored) Naruto and the Kyuubi into submission. Once he's done with that, he will bring into question their respective mother's sexual decency and poke fun at various unflattering aspects of said mothers. Zetsu wins.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 02:23 PM
Sorry but emo boy is gonna fry plant man.
Just accept it.

TheBlackChidori
03-11-2010, 02:24 PM
The stickyman is right. Zetsu has about as much purpose as.... Well, he has none.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
03-11-2010, 02:25 PM
Zetsu has the power to create a purpose. He's just that badass.

SageoftheSixPaths
03-11-2010, 02:26 PM
Sorry but emo boy is gonna fry plant man.
Just accept it.
It's inevitable that Captain Angst kills everyone in the end. There's no real way around it. The only one who he won't kill is Raikage, simply because you can't destroy that level of awesome.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 03:07 PM
It will be interesting to see how Zetsu commentates on his own fight.

Maikeru D. Shinigami
03-11-2010, 03:09 PM
He'll split in half and have one side observe himself.

shikamarulover18
03-11-2010, 03:31 PM
He'll split in half and have one side observe himself.

haha that would be so funny to watch

Wooster
03-11-2010, 04:15 PM
Sasuke is not going to fry Zetsu. Zetsu will fight Naruto. When someone says thay are going to fight someone else it always happens. It's like your staredown showdown motif.

Now I suppose Zetsu could not die against Nartuo and be fried by Sasuke later. In any cases, I sure Zetsu will create a clone of himself to observe and comment on the battle.

Does anyone else think of Statler and Waldorf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I), when Zetsu is talking to himself.

B: That's the worst battle I've ever seen.
W: It was even worse than Konohamura vs. Moegi.
B: It was so bad it was over in two seconds.
W:...*Looks at Black Zetsu*
B:...*Looks at White Zetsu*
B&W: That was the best battle we've ever seen!!

kg gangster
03-11-2010, 04:52 PM
False. Zetsu carries the Shayakuneggan. He can kill his enemies by batting his eyelashes in an affectionate way. Truthfully at the Final Valley, he defeated the first hokage, then slapped madara til he cried, and made him admit defeat at his hands. Then he took over the identity of the first, created the leaf village, and batted his eyelashes and anyone who stood in his way from that moment on.

He just wants the demons for himself, because each lash is made out of a Bijuu, and he doesn't believe in makeup.

i think this thread died after this post.

Hidden Ninja45
03-11-2010, 04:56 PM
I read a theory awhile ago that said Madara can only teleport to and/or keep track of other people with the sharigan.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Sasuke is not going to fry Zetsu. Zetsu will fight Naruto. When someone says thay are going to fight someone else it always happens. It's like your staredown showdown motif.

Now I suppose Zetsu could not die against Nartuo and be fried by Sasuke later. In any cases, I sure Zetsu will create a clone of himself to observe and comment on the battle.

Does anyone else think of Statler and Waldorf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I), when Zetsu is talking to himself.

B: That's the worst battle I've ever seen.
W: It was even worse than Konohamura vs. Moegi.
B: It was so bad it was over in two seconds.
W:...*Looks at Black Zetsu*
B:...*Looks at White Zetsu*
B&W: That was the best battle we've ever seen!!


Naruto beats Zetsu and Sasuke fries him.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Naruto: Rasengan Barrage
Zetsu: Dies
Sasuke: I'm hungry and a Vegan!
Sasuke: Amaterasu! MY EYE!
Naruto: Why don't you just use firestyle?
Sasuke: Shut up! You know nothing of my pain!
Naruto: But uh...it's just common sense.
Sasuke: I'll sever my bonds. My bonds with common sense
Naruto: Um...
Sasuke: I can FLY! *jumps off cliff and dies*
Naruto: You know I think I change my mind on the promise I made in 486
Kishimoto: Oh no you don't! *throws Naruto down cliff*
Naruto: Augh! *dies*
Kakashi: Um...but isn't Naruto supposed to have the Nine Tails inside him
which enables him to survive in such normally fatal circumstances.
Kishimoto: Yeah but I changed my mind on giving him awesome power.
Kakashi: Isn't he the main character?
Kishimoto: Not anymore. Sai Shaft is running the show now.

Sai Shaft!

Wooster
03-11-2010, 06:00 PM
Naruto beats Zetsu and Sasuke fries him.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Of course, you need to tenderize first.

Watch this.


Naruto: Rasengan Barrage
Zetsu: Dies
Sasuke: I'm hungry and a Vegan!
Sasuke: Amaterasu! MY EYE!
Naruto: Why don't you just use firestyle?
Sasuke: Shut up! You know nothing of my pain!
Naruto: But uh...it's just common sense.
Sasuke: I'll sever my bonds. My bonds with common sense
Naruto: Um...
Sasuke: I can FLY! *jumps off cliff and dies*
Naruto: You know I think I change my mind on the promise I made in 486
Kishimoto: Oh no you don't! *throws Naruto down cliff*
Naruto: Augh! *dies*
Kakashi: Um...but isn't Naruto supposed to have the Nine Tails inside him
which enables him to survive in such normally fatal circumstances.
Kishimoto: Yeah but I changed my mind on giving him awesome power.
Kakashi: Isn't he the main character?
Kishimoto: Not anymore. Sai Shaft is running the show now.

B: That's the worst battle I've ever seen.
W: It was even worse than Konohamura vs. Moegi.
B: It was so bad it was over in two seconds.
W:...*Looks at Black Zetsu*
B:...*Looks at White Zetsu*
B&W: That was the best battle we've ever seen!!

Sai Shaft!
See it always works. Statler and Waldorf, where would we be without them?

Hozuki Suigetsu
03-11-2010, 06:19 PM
Naruto beats Zetsu and Sasuke fries him.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


Naruto: Rasengan Barrage
Zetsu: Dies
Sasuke: I'm hungry and a Vegan!
Sasuke: Amaterasu! MY EYE!
Naruto: Why don't you just use firestyle?
Sasuke: Shut up! You know nothing of my pain!
Naruto: But uh...it's just common sense.
Sasuke: I'll sever my bonds. My bonds with common sense
Naruto: Um...
Sasuke: I can FLY! *jumps off cliff and dies*
Naruto: You know I think I change my mind on the promise I made in 486
Kishimoto: Oh no you don't! *throws Naruto down cliff*
Naruto: Augh! *dies*
Kakashi: Um...but isn't Naruto supposed to have the Nine Tails inside him
which enables him to survive in such normally fatal circumstances.
Kishimoto: Yeah but I changed my mind on giving him awesome power.
Kakashi: Isn't he the main character?
Kishimoto: Not anymore. Sai Shaft is running the show now.

Sai Shaft!

Sai...SHAFT!!!! ... Shaft Theme starts.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 06:49 PM
I love trolling my own threads. :P


Anywho it looks like Madara isn't a sensor.

Wooster
03-11-2010, 06:52 PM
I love trolling my own threads. :P


Anywho it looks like Madara isn't a sensor.
I love trolling your self-trolled threads.

Massive segue.
No he is not Zetsu is.

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 06:58 PM
I love trolling your self-trolled threads.


Massive seque.
No he is not Zetsu is.


Indeed. Two trolls are better than one.

I'm not sure what seque means. Looked it up and says a programming language for manipulating sequences.

Did you mean segue? As in a smooth transition without interruption?

Hm I dunno. Is Zetsu a sensor? Where do we learn that he is?
I thought it was just he follows Sasuke and relays the information
to Madara.

Hozuki Suigetsu
03-11-2010, 07:02 PM
Indeed. Two trolls are better than one.

I'm not sure what seque means. Looked it up and says a programming language for manipulating sequences.

Did you mean segue? As in a smooth transition without interruption?

Hm I dunno. Is Zetsu a sensor? Where do we learn that he is?
I thought it was just he follows Sasuke and relays the information
to Madara.


It would make sense for him to be a sensor, since he pops up everywhere but the grocery store!
`|( I know its lame...

Maikeru D. Shinigami
03-11-2010, 07:04 PM
It would make sense for him to be a sensor, since he pops up everywhere but the grocery store!
`|( I know its lame...

He doesn't need the grocery store, Zetsu eats people.

Wooster
03-11-2010, 07:04 PM
Indeed. Two trolls are better than one.

I'm not sure what seque means. Looked it up and says a programming language for manipulating sequences.

Did you mean segue? As in a smooth transition without interruption?

Hm I dunno. Is Zetsu a sensor? Where do we learn that he is?
I thought it was just he follows Sasuke and relays the information
to Madara.
It's not my fault if you quote me before I fix spelling errors, Kakashi. It doesn't even show I edited it, how fast are you?

Well we don't know this, I'm just assuming.
How else can he find battles hundreds of miles away. Jiraiya vs. Pain all the way to Itachi vs. Sasuke. Actually, it seems that the Black Zetsu may be the sensor. He is the one that knew the battle was going to occur. Not to mention Madara said Zetsu is not a front-line fighter, so he must have some skills.

Hozuki Suigetsu
03-11-2010, 07:08 PM
He doesn't need the grocery store, Zetsu eats people.


I was saying that he is not for purchase in the vegetable section.
Sorry!`o.o"

mrsticky005
03-11-2010, 10:10 PM
It's not my fault if you quote me before I fix spelling errors, Kakashi. It doesn't even show I edited it, how fast are you?

Well we don't know this, I'm just assuming.
How else can he find battles hundreds of miles away. Jiraiya vs. Pain all the way to Itachi vs. Sasuke. Actually, it seems that the Black Zetsu may be the sensor. He is the one that knew the battle was going to occur. Not to mention Madara said Zetsu is not a front-line fighter, so he must have some skills.


That's possible. However it's also equally likely that white and black
had separated before Jirayia vs Pain and Madara told the black half
about the Sasuke vs Itachi fight.

TheBlackChidori
03-12-2010, 01:20 AM
I've come to the conclusion that White Zetsu and Black Zetsu is truthfully Wooster and Sticky.

Wooster
03-12-2010, 06:18 AM
I've come to the conclusion that White Zetsu and Black Zetsu is truthfully Wooster and Sticky.
I call Black Zetsu!
First under the gun take that mrsticky.


That's possible. However it's also equally likely that white and black
had separated before Jirayia vs Pain and Madara told the black half
about the Sasuke vs Itachi fight.

But how do you explain that Zetsu was sent to track the entire area under the Gaara sealing? Sure he can appear anywhere, but doesn't he have to sense something to know to appear. It may not be the same as Karin or a Byakugan use, but maybe it's like the animals Jugo talks to. If animals can sense chakra, why not plants? Plants are people too you know.

mrsticky005
03-12-2010, 08:24 AM
I call Black Zetsu!
First under the gun take that mrsticky.

But how do you explain that Zetsu was sent to track the entire area under the Gaara sealing? Sure he can appear anywhere, but doesn't he have to sense something to know to appear. It may not be the same as Karin or a Byakugan use, but maybe it's like the animals Jugo talks to. If animals can sense chakra, why not plants? Plants are people too you know.

I was gonna choose white zetsu anyways.

Hm maybe you can have a point. Ok, Zetsu is a sensor.

Wooster
03-12-2010, 09:13 AM
I was gonna choose white zetsu anyways.

Hm maybe you can have a point. Ok, Zetsu is a sensor.
Sure that's what they all say.:roll:

I do have a point. Besides I would know, I AM Black Zetsu.

tyler
03-12-2010, 09:32 AM
this thread went from interesting to completely pointless in a matter of posts...

mrsticky005
03-12-2010, 09:50 AM
this thread went from interesting to completely pointless in a matter of posts...

I have a way of doing that.

Vivi
03-12-2010, 09:52 AM
Anyone remember when Madara was able to find Sasuke and Team Taka so
easily in Chapter 453 and when Sasuke asked how, Madara replied that it
was within his power? Well if you noticed Zetsu was there too. Now that
Madara has revealed that he doesn't know what happened to Kisame it's
revealed that Madara is in not actually a sensor. He was able to find Sasuke
via Zetsu. So he was telling a half truth when he said it was within his power.

We also learned that Zetsu is unsurprisingly not strong. At least not strong enough to fight the Nine Tails. But to be fair, neither was Pain.

Also Sasuke didn't look the least bit happy to see Zetsu alive.

Be prepared for Sasuke fries Zetsu. Coming soon.

Already made a theory about that.=/
Madara can only teleport to Sharingan users cause thats all where he went sofar.

tyler
03-12-2010, 09:54 AM
Already made a theory about that.=/
Madara can only teleport to Sharingan users cause thats all where he went sofar.

good observation, I haven't noticed that. It does seem like there have been a few times when he has teleported else where though.

Wooster
03-12-2010, 09:56 AM
Already made a theory about that.=/
Madara can only teleport to Sharingan users cause thats all where he went sofar.
Wait, hold on a minute. Sure Kakashi was near by, but Madara did teleport to Naruto. You mean to say Naruto just needs to stay away from Kakashi, and Madara can't catch him? Not to mention his hideout has no sharingan users, just sharingan.

Vivi
03-12-2010, 10:09 AM
Wait, hold on a minute. Sure Kakashi was near by, but Madara did teleport to Naruto. You mean to say Naruto just needs to stay away from Kakashi, and Madara can't catch him? Not to mention his hideout has no sharingan users, just sharingan.

To Naruto?You mean in the Inn where Kakashi was as well?
Then to Sharingans only.

Jinchiruuki
03-12-2010, 10:10 AM
Already made a theory about that.=/
Madara can only teleport to Sharingan users cause thats all where he went sofar.

Which is also why Madara was able to beat Zetsu to where Sasuke and Itachi fought.

Wooster
03-12-2010, 10:13 AM
To Naruto?You mean in the Inn where Kakashi was as well?
Then to Sharingans only.
But then Madara has quite a bit of range. Kakashi was outside at the time. Did he really know Kakashi was there? He did seem surprised by the trap. Of course, Madara doesn't really need to worry about traps.

Vivi
03-12-2010, 10:21 AM
But then Madara has quite a bit of range. Kakashi was outside at the time. Did he really know Kakashi was there? He did seem surprised by the trap. Of course, Madara doesn't really need to worry about traps.

Tracking.
Before he found Kakashi in the woods he was in the valley of the end.
IIRC he even said something in the likes of having them found.

Wooster
03-12-2010, 10:25 AM
Tracking.
Before he found Kakashi in the woods he was in the valley of the end.
IIRC he even said something in the likes of having them found.
If Madara is so good at tracking, why doesn't he know Kisame is dead yet? I believe Black Zetsu is the tracker.

Also, how did Madara get to the Valley of the End? No sharingan users there. Was he out for a morning stroll? He also appear quickly to Pain and Kisame. I will admit we didn't see him warp in at those times, but mostly likely he did.

Perhaps you are right, but I remain dubious of the theory.

Vivi
03-12-2010, 10:32 AM
If Madara is so good at tracking, why doesn't he know Kisame is dead yet? I believe Black Zetsu is the tracker.

Also, how did Madara get to the Valley of the End? No sharingan users there. Was he out for a morning stroll?

Perhaps you are right, but I remain dubious of the theory.


Tracking Sharingans only.
I need to find the Page where he said it.

Does everything Characters do need a reason?
Why did Kisame and Itachi get a Coffee when being in Konoha although not knowing who arrives?

Wooster
03-12-2010, 10:37 AM
Tracking Sharingans only.
I need to find the Page where he said it.

Does everything Characters do need a reason?
Why did Kisame and Itachi get a Coffee when being in Konoha although not knowing who arrives?
The point is how he got there, not what he did.

Likewise, Madara is flying all across the ninja world, from Pain to Diedara to Kisame. He sure gets there fast, it seems likely that he is warping. Especially since the Naruto world has not developed any vehicular transportation for some weird reason. Everyone just likes to run.

mrsticky005
03-12-2010, 10:42 AM
Tracking Sharingans only.
I need to find the Page where he said it.

Does everything Characters do need a reason?
Why did Kisame and Itachi get a Coffee when being in Konoha although not knowing who arrives?


They got coffee to blend in with the crowd. It's less suspicious.

Of course it doesn't help when they wear Akatsuki cloaks. -_-

And my theory is rather different from your own.