Mangekyou Sharingan

[frosting]

It's assumed that the standard Sharingan is the same type of doujutsu among those who posess it, but why is it that we see different events happening with the Mangekyou? Itachi's was the nightmare realm thing... and Kakashi's was the black hole/ different dimension vacuum thing... is it just that the Mangekyou has multiple abilities, varying on the owner which one is dominant?

[Maxtone]

Yes the Mangekyo differs from user to user however the normal Sharingan has the same abilities such as Copying jutsu and Taijutsu

[jounin]

yes it depends on the user

[Tenshi_Uzukara]

yes

[Zeek Uchiha]

yeah depends on the user and there personality

[Syon]

Yeah it it depends on the user like the posts above said

[shinobi4000]

ok are we just gonna ay yes and yea all the time?

[Kisame]

Kakashi's mangekyo is different because he's non uchiha or maybe another reason , but if memory serves me, the databook said all mangekyo have the same moves which can be backed up by the Killerbee fight.

[Rogue Priestess]

actually you can learn all mangekyo sharingan jutsus, but what jutsus you learn first depends on your personality ...

[Kisame]

Where are you guys getting the personality thing? Did I miss something?

[Rogue Priestess]

Where are you guys getting the personality thing? Did I miss something?

well the personality determines which jutsu will be the best suited for the user.
itachi got the whole genjutsu thing, because on the inside he was being tormented on the fact that he had to kill his whole clan and that he betrayed his little brother sasuke's trust ...

[Kisame]

Where are you guys getting the personality thing? Did I miss something?

well the personality determines which jutsu will be the best suited for the user.
itachi got the whole genjutsu thing, because on the inside he was being tormented on the fact that he had to kill his whole clan and that he betrayed his little brother sasuke's trust ...


If they didn't say it in the manga it is just an assumption, so did they say it?

[Rogue Priestess]

If they didn't say it in the manga it is just an assumption, so did they say it?

you gotta admit, it's a pretty good assumption ....

[Kisame]

If they didn't say it in the manga it is just an assumption, so did they say it?

you gotta admit, it's a pretty good assumption ....


I'd rather go by the databook Kishi wrote saying they all have the same moves. Kakashi is probably a special case considering his nin Uchiha related heritage.

[Rogue Priestess]

I'd rather go by the databook Kishi wrote saying they all have the same moves. Kakashi is probably a special case considering his nin Uchiha related heritage.

well in the data book it says so, but you must admit that their abilities with the jutsus do match their personality ...

[Kisame]

I'd rather go by the databook Kishi wrote saying they all have the same moves. Kakashi is probably a special case considering his nin Uchiha related heritage.

well in the data book it says so, but you must admit that their abilities with the jutsus do match their personality ...


Sasuke and Itachi both have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. The matching their personality is probably something Kishi did on purpose, but has no actual effect on other people's MS moves and how does a balck hole resemble Kakashi's personality? Like I said pure assumptions. The databook in this case is a more reliable souce of information.

[Rogue Priestess]

Sasuke and Itachi both have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. The matching their personality is probably something Kishi did on purpose, but has no actual effect on other people's MS moves and how does a balck hole resemble Kakashi's personality? Like I said pure assumptions. The databook in this case is a more reliable souce of information.

the black hole resembles kakashi, because it's cool :mrgreen: ... if i read the manga and stuff, i'd be able to make more connections, but i can't ...

[Kisame]

Sasuke and Itachi both have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. The matching their personality is probably something Kishi did on purpose, but has no actual effect on other people's MS moves and how does a balck hole resemble Kakashi's personality? Like I said pure assumptions. The databook in this case is a more reliable souce of information.

the black hole resembles kakashi, because it's cool :mrgreen: ... if i read the manga and stuff, i'd be able to make more connections, but i can't ...


Cool is a matter of opinion. There are countless of people who think Kakashi and/or Kamui are lame. MS jutsu being personality based is a pretty baseless claim while the Databook is written by Kishi himself.

[Rogue Priestess]

Cool is a matter of opinion. There are countless of people who think Kakashi and/or Kamui are lame. MS jutsu being personality based is a pretty baseless claim while the Databook is written by Kishi himself.

okay i'm about to make an assumption that i'm not entirely sure about, because iv'e never seen kakashi gaiden, but i believe that when kakashi's best friend obito died kakashi generally became empty inside, because he some how blames himself like in most mangas and animes ... if i'm incorrect, then i give up on the whole kakashi's personality thing ...

[Kisame]

Cool is a matter of opinion. There are countless of people who think Kakashi and/or Kamui are lame. MS jutsu being personality based is a pretty baseless claim while the Databook is written by Kishi himself.

okay i'm about to make an assumption that i'm not entirely sure about, because iv'e never seen kakashi gaiden, but i believe that when kakashi's best friend obito died kakashi generally became empty inside, because he some how blames himself like in most mangas and animes ... if i'm incorrect, then i give up on the whole kakashi's personality thing ...


If you look hard enough you can make a connection between everything. MS are not gained depending on the user's peronality. Kamui is likely a version of Madara's own teleportation technique. What Kishi the author say>Fan's assumptions.

[Rogue Priestess]

f you look hard enough you can make a connection between everything. MS are not gained depending on the user's peronality. Kamui is likely a version of Madara's own teleportation technique. What Kishi the author say>Fan's assumptions.

i know we're going to be debating this forever, so i'm going to be the guy that says "alright you win" ... so congratulations ...

[Kisame]

f you look hard enough you can make a connection between everything. MS are not gained depending on the user's peronality. Kamui is likely a version of Madara's own teleportation technique. What Kishi the author say>Fan's assumptions.

i know we're going to be debating this forever, so i'm going to be the guy that says "alright you win" ... so congratulations ...


What you're debating is a baseless fan's assumption that was disproven by Sasuke and Itachi having the same MS jutsu and Kishi writng all MS users have the same jutsu in the databook unless of course you think fans are right and the author is wrong. I'd say you win if you showed evidence instead of theories.

[Rogue Priestess]

What you're debating is a baseless fan's assumption that was disproven by Sasuke and Itachi having the same MS jutsu and Kishi writng all MS users have the same jutsu in the databook unless of course you think fans are right and the author is wrong. I'd say you win if you showed evidence instead of theories.

okay dude, just stop now ... i told you, you win now just drop it ... you're really starting to get me ticked ....

[Kisame]

What you're debating is a baseless fan's assumption that was disproven by Sasuke and Itachi having the same MS jutsu and Kishi writng all MS users have the same jutsu in the databook unless of course you think fans are right and the author is wrong. I'd say you win if you showed evidence instead of theories.

okay dude, just stop now ... i told you, you win now just drop it ... you're really starting to get me ticked ....


I just tried to try to get my point across since you seemed to only stop because you were getting tired of debating, but you still believed in the theory.

[Rogue Priestess]

I just tried to try to get my point across since you seemed to only stop because you were getting tired of debating, but you still believed in the theory.

listen i'll just believe what makes me happy and you believe what makes you happy so please just drop it ...

[Kisame]

I just tried to try to get my point across since you seemed to only stop because you were getting tired of debating, but you still believed in the theory.

listen i'll just believe what makes me happy and you believe what makes you happy so please just drop it ...


That's not going to help you very much in debates, but meh, whatever floats your boat. I'll just drop it.

[Rogue Priestess]

That's not going to help you very much in debates, but meh, whatever floats your boat. I'll just drop it.

i'm not to my full potential at the moment considering the fact that it's pretty late where i'm at and i'm a bit of a noob at this, because i'm only 13 years old ...

[Kisame]

That's not going to help you very much in debates, but meh, whatever floats your boat. I'll just drop it.

i'm not to my full potential at the moment considering the fact that it's pretty late where i'm at and i'm a bit of a noob at this, because i'm only 13 years old ...


Yeah, I'm the same age as you.

[Rogue Priestess]

Yeah, I'm the same age as you.

good for you, you want a prize for that :roll: ... like i said, it's pretty late over here and not to mention, you're probably the captain of the debate team ... i'm used to debating with noobs like my friends ... not to mention i don't read that much manga so the opinions of others are what i depend on ... all i really do is just post fan based opinions believing them ...

[Kisame]

Yeah, I'm the same age as you.

good for you, you want a prize for that :roll: ... like i said, it's pretty late over here and not to mention, you're probably the captain of the debate team ... i'm used to debating with noobs like my friends ... not to mention i don't read that much manga so the opinions of others are what i depend on ... all i really do is just post fan based opinions believing them ...


No, I'm a pretty lousy debater compared to other people I know and instead of believing in fan base things I'd suggest looking at official things. There is a bunch of fan based crap. Official stuff would make it easier to know better about some things in this manga.

[Rogue Priestess]

No, I'm a pretty lousy debater compared to other people I know and instead of believing in fan base things I'd suggest looking at official things. There is a bunch of fan based crap. Official stuff would make it easier to know better about some things in this manga.

you know what? i'm just going to be the better man and just stop ... if i continue debating with you, i'm pretty sure i'm only going to end up annoyed ... so just don't post that you were trying to get your opinion across and blah, blah, blah. if you want to gloat go ahead ...

[Kisame]

No, I'm a pretty lousy debater compared to other people I know and instead of believing in fan base things I'd suggest looking at official things. There is a bunch of fan based crap. Official stuff would make it easier to know better about some things in this manga.

you know what? i'm just going to be the better man and just stop ... if i continue debating with you, i'm pretty sure i'm only going to end up annoyed ... so just don't post that you were trying to get your opinion across and blah, blah, blah. if you want to gloat go ahead ...


What I just posted was a suggestion not debating, I stopped the mangekyo debate a few posts back. Apparently you can't take a suggestion without being offended.

[Rogue Priestess]

What I just posted was a suggestion not debating, I stopped the mangekyo debate a few posts back. Apparently you can't take a suggestion without being offended.

no, apparently you don't pay attention to what iv'e posted, so here, i'll make it a bit bigger for you so that you can read it ... IT'S VERY LATE WHERE I'M AT and i tend to get confused and be in a bad mood ...

[Kisame]

What I just posted was a suggestion not debating, I stopped the mangekyo debate a few posts back. Apparently you can't take a suggestion without being offended.

no, apparently you don't pay attention to what iv'e posted, so here, i'll make it a bit bigger for you so that you can read it ... IT'S VERY LATE WHERE I'M AT and i tend to get confused and be in a bad mood ...


You know what this is my last post here. I was saying I wasn't debating which you previously said I was, I was just offering a suggestion which you took as debating. I was trying to offer the suggestion as a good thing, but you took it as debating. Feel free to reply, but I'm not replying.

[Rogue Priestess]

You know what this is my last post here. I was saying I wasn't debating which you previously said I was, I was just offering a suggestion which you took as debating. I was trying to offer the suggestion as a good thing, but you took it as debating. Feel free to reply, but I'm not replying.

finally ...

[minoto]

i don't know what is going on i am confused but i think it is based of personality i think?

[UchihaItachii]

.....wow that was intense but yea, I wouldnt think that ALL of them(Ms styles) came from their personalities because like whoever said it before the reference to kakashi's was prettyyyyy weak. It was understandable but it was still weak. And what would Madara's explanation be?