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TsukuyomiNightmare
02-26-2010, 07:04 AM
Orochimaru
It's Orochimaru's fault that most of the things in the Narutoverese are like this. It's his fault that Sasuke has gone to the evil side, and if that wouldn't have happened, things would be really diffrent (like Itachi would probobly still be alive, Sasuke wouldn't be evil and wouldn't have the Mangekyo, Taka wouldn't exist etc.) so I think that at the end, Orochimaru will have a huge part in the series.

Kakashi
If he would die, I think that we would see his face. I think that something "special" is under that mask. What's the use of wearing a mask all the time if you're not hiding anything under it?

Sasuke
I think that there's still some hope for him. Naruto has a way of changing people (like Gaara). He was evil. Killing was fun for him, he didn't care about anyone, until Naruto beat him. He killed much muck much more people than Sasuke did.

Sharingan
I'm lost with all that Sharingan stuff. Danzou's sharingan arm, Madara's sharingan lab, all those special abilities and stuff... I'm just lost.

Madara: Welcome, Naruto, to the sharingan store! Would you like to buy Shisui's eyes? Or do you fancy the stylish Itachi's eyes?

That's about it.

SakuraKaulitz221
02-26-2010, 07:15 AM
Orochimaru
It's Orochimaru's fault that most of the things in the Narutoverese are like this. It's his fault that Sasuke has gone to the evil side, and if that wouldn't have happened, things would be really diffrent (like Itachi would probobly still be alive, Sasuke wouldn't be evil and wouldn't have the Mangekyo, Taka wouldn't exist etc.) so I think that at the end, Orochimaru will have a huge part in the series.

Kakashi
If he would die, I think that we would see his face. I think that something "special" is under that mask. What's the use of wearing a mask all the time if you're not hiding anything under it?

Sasuke
I think that there's still some hope for him. Naruto has a way of changing people (like Gaara). He was evil. Killing was fun for him, he didn't care about anyone, until Naruto beat him. He killed much muck much more people than Sasuke did.

Sharingan
I'm lost with all that Sharingan stuff. Danzou's sharingan arm, Madara's sharingan lab, all those special abilities and stuff... I'm just lost.

Madara: Welcome, Naruto, to the sharingan store! Would you like to buy Shisui's eyes? Or do you fancy the stylish Itachi's eyes?

That's about it.
I TOTALLY AGREE. With like everything you just wrote. I mean, Imagine if Orochimaru never existed!? The Ninjaverse would be sooooo different...

I lol'd at the last part XD

VampireCat
02-26-2010, 07:17 AM
Orochimaru
It's Orochimaru's fault that most of the things in the Narutoverese are like this. It's his fault that Sasuke has gone to the evil side, and if that wouldn't have happened, things would be really diffrent (like Itachi would probobly still be alive, Sasuke wouldn't be evil and wouldn't have the Mangekyo, Taka wouldn't exist etc.) so I think that at the end, Orochimaru will have a huge part in the series.

Agreed.
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SilentBUTTdeadlyNiNJA
02-26-2010, 07:21 AM
Na, it's really Itachi's fault.
Cmon, he tells Sasuke to hate him and get stronger.
And Sasuke desperate to get stronger, goes to Orochimaru.
Well, it's Itachi and Sasuke's fault for the msot part.
Besides, either way, Itachi would've died in SAsuke's hands.
That's what Itachi have always wanted.

Yemen Satoshi
02-26-2010, 07:31 AM
Kakashi's face has been revealed in a sense, just not directly. If you go to Google Images, type in Kakashi's Real Face, and look for a while, you'll find a comic. The comic has his ninja hounds answering Naruto's question about his face. In the end, Pakkun says he has shiny teeth, and it looks like he even has a mole on his lip area. To find it, it has Naruto talking to the dogs. It should be on the first few pages, it's kinda funny seeing the dogs talk about what his face looks like with all these different kinds of ways. I'm on a school laptop, so some sites are blocked (oddly, not Naruto, for some reason), but most of them are blogs. But I found it one time on a regular computer, and it was pretty funny. Go look. I DARE YOU lol. (EDIT: Sorry that this strayed off topic a bit, but I felt it had to be discussed)

TsukuyomiNightmare
02-26-2010, 07:59 AM
Kakashi's face has been revealed in a sense, just not directly. If you go to Google Images, type in Kakashi's Real Face, and look for a while, you'll find a comic. The comic has his ninja hounds answering Naruto's question about his face. In the end, Pakkun says he has shiny teeth, and it looks like he even has a mole on his lip area. To find it, it has Naruto talking to the dogs. It should be on the first few pages, it's kinda funny seeing the dogs talk about what his face looks like with all these different kinds of ways. I'm on a school laptop, so some sites are blocked (oddly, not Naruto, for some reason), but most of them are blogs. But I found it one time on a regular computer, and it was pretty funny. Go look. I DARE YOU lol. (EDIT: Sorry that this strayed off topic a bit, but I felt it had to be discussed)
It's just fan art, not the real thing (or I managed to miss that in the manga).

Cobrinha
02-26-2010, 08:48 AM
Orochimaru
It's Orochimaru's fault that most of the things in the Narutoverese are like this. It's his fault that Sasuke has gone to the evil side, and if that wouldn't have happened, things would be really diffrent (like Itachi would probobly still be alive, Sasuke wouldn't be evil and wouldn't have the Mangekyo, Taka wouldn't exist etc.) so I think that at the end, Orochimaru will have a huge part in the series.

Kakashi
If he would die, I think that we would see his face. I think that something "special" is under that mask. What's the use of wearing a mask all the time if you're not hiding anything under it?

Sasuke
I think that there's still some hope for him. Naruto has a way of changing people (like Gaara). He was evil. Killing was fun for him, he didn't care about anyone, until Naruto beat him. He killed much muck much more people than Sasuke did.

Sharingan
I'm lost with all that Sharingan stuff. Danzou's sharingan arm, Madara's sharingan lab, all those special abilities and stuff... I'm just lost.

Madara: Welcome, Naruto, to the sharingan store! Would you like to buy Shisui's eyes? Or do you fancy the stylish Itachi's eyes?

That's about it.

Sasuke would still walk the same path without Orochmaru. Orochimaru was just more convenient at the time for him to get closer to his goal. It was more Itachi's fault for what he told Sasuke to do, but even more Danzo's and the elders fault for ordering Itachi to slaughter his clan (although the Uchiha's were planning a coup d'tat, so it was just).

As for Kakashi I can't imagine what else besides the rest of his face is under his mask, and don't think it's that important.

Personally, I think there is no hope for Sasuke returning. He is flat out evil. There were different circumstances in which Gaara turned over a new leaf and Sasuke is too far gone. He wants to destroy the village you're suggesting he return to. He killed on of their leaders (no matter how much he deserved it). He tried to kill Sakura...It would be a horrible plot twist if at the end the let Sasuke back to Konoha. I'm not saying he has to die, but at the very least he shouldn't be able to return, which I doubt he will ever want to at the end.

I hope your Madara theory was a joke, because why would he ever give Naruto the Sharingan, let alone Shisui's Sharingan? Actually, why would he give anyone except Sasuke the Sharingan? I really hope that this past chapter is a turning point for Naruto and he realizes that the only way is to kill Sasuke. Sasuke tried to kill Sakura TWICE in two chapters, Tried to kill Kakashi, and would have no qualms with killing Naruto. It's time Naruto grew up and see Sasuke for what he really is.

VampireCat
02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
Sasuke would still walk the same path without Orochmaru. Orochimaru was just more convenient at the time for him to get closer to his goal. It was more Itachi's fault for what he told Sasuke to do, but even more Danzo's and the elders fault for ordering Itachi to slaughter his clan (although the Uchiha's were planning a coup d'tat, so it was just).
It was Orochimaru's fault that Sasuke's ran away from Konoha. xP
But you'r right; it's all Danzo's fault. :roll:

Cobrinha
02-26-2010, 09:55 AM
It was Orochimaru's fault that Sasuke's ran away from Konoha. xP
But you'r right; it's all Danzo's fault. :roll:


It was Orochimaru's fault that he left when he did, but Orochimaru or no Orochimaru, Sasuke was still going to leave.

Sasori-sempai
02-26-2010, 10:00 AM
I hate that Pedo snake man!

VampireCat
02-26-2010, 10:22 AM
It was Orochimaru's fault that he left when he did, but Orochimaru or no Orochimaru, Sasuke was still going to leave.
Hmm, maybe.
But at least he'd get a change to kill Itachi with Naruto and Sakura. (and maybe Kakashi)

tyler
02-26-2010, 10:30 AM
Orochimaru
It's Orochimaru's fault that most of the things in the Narutoverese are like this. It's his fault that Sasuke has gone to the evil side, and if that wouldn't have happened, things would be really diffrent (like Itachi would probobly still be alive, Sasuke wouldn't be evil and wouldn't have the Mangekyo, Taka wouldn't exist etc.) so I think that at the end, Orochimaru will have a huge part in the series.
Actually, this was not Orochimaru's fault. I'll admit at first glance it seems like it's his fault. However, one could say that it's Itachi's fault. Again, I would have to disagree that it's Itachi's fault. It is 100% Madara's fault. Itachi only was assigned to assassinate his clan because the leaders of Konoha thought the Uchiha were planning to take over Konoha. Madara was manipulating the Kyuubi to make the leaders of Konoha assume the Uchiha were behind the incident. That lead to the Itachi incident, which lead to Sasuke turning evil.

Kakashi
If he would die, I think that we would see his face. I think that something "special" is under that mask. What's the use of wearing a mask all the time if you're not hiding anything under it?
Interesting thought, but how would he eat in public if he was trying to hide something. Not disagreeing, just wondering.


Sasuke
I think that there's still some hope for him. Naruto has a way of changing people (like Gaara). He was evil. Killing was fun for him, he didn't care about anyone, until Naruto beat him. He killed much muck much more people than Sasuke did.
completely agree


Sharingan
I'm lost with all that Sharingan stuff. Danzou's sharingan arm, Madara's sharingan lab, all those special abilities and stuff... I'm just lost.

Madara: Welcome, Naruto, to the sharingan store! Would you like to buy Shisui's eyes? Or do you fancy the stylish Itachi's eyes?

That's about it.


You make a lot of good points. However, I have to disagree with a few....they are in red

Bohica
02-26-2010, 12:14 PM
While I agree Orochi played a huge part of the current events, with out him things would of still unfolded along similair lines. Sasuke would still of been consumed by hate for his brother, he would still of eventually faught him and learned Itachi's story and ran into Madara and learned his story.

Onto the Sharingan, what I want to know if it is has all these powers, what powers are there of the byokugon (yeah i spelled it wrong sry) I mean it must have something compareble or different we have yet to see.

To Kakashis mask, he wears it to look really cool, or maybe it has to do with some forbidden jutsu only his family knows ? His dad was a bad mother, well you get the point.

Hidden Ninja45
02-26-2010, 03:36 PM
It was Orochimaru's fault that he left when he did, but Orochimaru or no Orochimaru, Sasuke was still going to leave.
It's Danzo's fault Sasuke left in the first place. If Danzo hadn't ordered Itachi to murder his Clan, the Uchiha Clan would still be alive, and Sasuke would of stayed in the village and been a non-emo kid.

Cobrinha
02-26-2010, 05:28 PM
It's Danzo's fault Sasuke left in the first place. If Danzo hadn't ordered Itachi to murder his Clan, the Uchiha Clan would still be alive, and Sasuke would of stayed in the village and been a non-emo kid.


Haha yeah, that's what I said two posts above the post of mine you just quoted. No worries. Not everyone reads every singl post.......

But yeah it seems like every event can be traced back to something/someone that seems otherwise insignificant.

Kassie
02-26-2010, 10:36 PM
Yeah I totally agree with you(:

*Talim of the moonlight*
02-27-2010, 12:55 AM
Well i think that the story wouldn't be as good as it is if Sasuke wasn't evil. It's seems to be getting intresting ever chapter!:p

JC.
02-27-2010, 05:04 AM
It's Danzo's fault Sasuke left in the first place. If Danzo hadn't ordered Itachi to murder his Clan, the Uchiha Clan would still be alive, and Sasuke would of stayed in the village and been a non-emo kid.

Actually Danzo would've killed them with his Anbu...

Cobrinha
02-27-2010, 06:54 AM
Actually Danzo would've killed them with his Anbu...


Yeah, but then everyone would know that it was Danzo. The whole point was to make Itachi seem sadistic, and no one would know about the coup d'tat the Uchiha's were planning, or that the village elders and Danzo ordered the slaughter of an entire clan.