Kakashi VS Spider-man

[MadaraTobi]

location:farm field
NO rules

[trofet]

It would be hard for spiderman without any buildings and such close to him.. I think kakashi takes this pretty easy.. Ms??

[MadaraTobi]

Yeah thats a pretty stupid location,so to make it fair well say the leaf village around all buildings,and kakashi does have MS

[Miles Edgeworth]

Lol, Spider Man has no difficulty with Kakashi.

Spider Man easily reacts to Kakashi's attacks. Spider Man shoots his webbing and Kakashi pretty much can't get out. Spidey Sense means Kakashi never lands a hit on Spider Man.

People who say Kakashi easily beats him (let alone beats him at all) have no comic knowledge of Spider Man whatsoever and need to do research.

[MadaraTobi]

Lol, Spider Man has no difficulty with Kakashi.

Spider Man easily reacts to Kakashi's attacks. Spider Man shoots his webbing and Kakashi pretty much can't get out. Spidey Sense means Kakashi never lands a hit on Kakashi.

People who say Kakashi easily beats him (let alone beats him at all) have no comic knowledge of Spider Man whatsoever and need to do research.


I agree

But what do you mean in the highlighted area?

[Miles Edgeworth]

I agree

But what do you mean in the highlighted area?

Typo, I meant Kakashi never lands a hit on Spider Man, I'll edit it.

[MadaraTobi]

Typo, I meant Kakashi never lands a hit on Spider Man, I'll edit it.


Oh okay.

[kokojojo]

spider-man's SPIDEY SENSES are the equivalent to the Sharingan in its ability to predict attacks

[Hatake Girl]

i wouldnt count kakashi out just yet... kakashi has crazy speed. maybe spidey sense wont be able to keep up. kakashi has atleast 1000 jutsu copied, he has to have atleast a few that he could use against spiderman. plus kakashi has the sharingan in which he could follow spiderman's movements.
it would be a good fight.

[Hatake Girl]

spider-man's SPIDEY SENSES are the equivalent to the Sharingan in its ability to predict attacks
yeah i guess your right. they pretty much cancel each other out.

[Miles Edgeworth]

spider-man's SPIDEY SENSES are the equivalent to the Sharingan in its ability to predict attacks

Spidey Sense>Sharingan, Spidey Sense allows Spider Man to react to faster attacks than Sharingan and it doesn't merely allow SM to dodge attacks, it notifies him if there's a danger so he'll know to react immediately to an oncoming attack. Generally Sharingan doesn't do as well, especially not Kakashi's.

i wouldnt count kakashi out just yet... kakashi has crazy speed. maybe spidey sense wont be able to keep up. kakashi has atleast 1000 jutsu copied, he has to have atleast a few that he could use against spiderman. plus kakashi has the sharingan in which he could follow spiderman's movements.
it would be a good fight.

Crazy speed? Spidey bullet timed before, Spidey easily has supersonic+ reaction speed, much better than anything from Kakashi.

Hyperbole. He has never demonstrated more than 50 jutsus, let alone 1000.

Sharingan fails when compared to Spidey Sense.

People have said Spidey>Sasuke and have even compared him to SM Naruto. Kakashi is simply not on Spidey's level.

[[Shikamaru]]

I doubt webbing Kakashi will work, considering his reaction speed is considered transonic, It's pure nonsense to think the webs move around the speed of sound.

Kakashi summons dogs and now it's 6v1. He summons two more clones now it's 8v1. With three transonic, movement predictors, Spiderman simply has no chance.

Honestly, it's this easy, Kakashi dodges the web and summons a shadow clone, then summons his dogs under superman, and has the clone kill Superman while he evades the dogs.

Superman has not shown any feats to be considered the speed of sound. Even with his spider sense, he cannot dodge dogs from below, a clone charging directly at him, and Kakashi from behind.

MS is overkill, but honestly, he could simply dodge Spiderman all day charging MS. Then boom, GG.

That or go directly underground the entire time while the clone plays with him.

Kakashi = Superhuman

Spiderman = Peek Human

Simple Genjutsu would also stomp Spiderman with relative ease.

[kokojojo]

lol now ur throwing superman into the scene??

[Hatake Girl]

Spidey Sense>Sharingan, Spidey Sense allows Spider Man to react to faster attacks than Sharingan and it doesn't merely allow SM to dodge attacks, it notifies him if there's a danger so he'll know to react immediately to an oncoming attack. Generally Sharingan doesn't do as well, especially not Kakashi's.



Crazy speed? Spidey bullet timed before, Spidey easily has supersonic+ reaction speed, much better than anything from Kakashi.

Hyperbole. He has never demonstrated more than 50 jutsus, let alone 1000.

Sharingan fails when compared to Spidey Sense.

People have said Spidey>Sasuke and have even compared him to SM Naruto. Kakashi is simply not on Spidey's level.
no. spiderman is not at kakashi's level. and just because he has only demonstrated around 50 jutsu, it doesnt mean that he cant to the others he has seen. kakashi is also much more intelligent than spiderman and has much more battle prowess

;2446631']I doubt webbing Kakashi will work, considering his reaction speed is considered transonic, It's pure nonsense to think the webs move around the speed of sound.

Kakashi summons dogs and now it's 6v1. He summons two more clones now it's 8v1. With three transonic, movement predictors, Spiderman simply has no chance.

Honestly, it's this easy, Kakashi dodges the web and summons a shadow clone, then summons his dogs under superman, and has the clone kill Superman while he evades the dogs.

Superman has not shown any feats to be considered the speed of sound. Even with his spider sense, he cannot dodge dogs from below, a clone charging directly at him, and Kakashi from behind.

MS is overkill, but honestly, he could simply dodge Spiderman all day charging MS. Then boom, GG.

That or go directly underground the entire time while the clone plays with him.

Kakashi = Superhuman

Spiderman = Peek Human

Simple Genjutsu would also stomp Spiderman with relative ease.
i agree. kakashi could easily catch spiderman in a genjutsu. spiderman is still only human, kakashi is a ninja w/ superhuman abilities.

[Miles Edgeworth]

;2446631']I doubt webbing Kakashi will work, considering his reaction speed is considered transonic, It's pure nonsense to think the webs move around the speed of sound.

Kakashi summons dogs and now it's 6v1. He summons two more clones now it's 8v1. With three transonic, movement predictors, Spiderman simply has no chance.

Honestly, it's this easy, Kakashi dodges the web and summons a shadow clone, then summons his dogs under superman, and has the clone kill Superman while he evades the dogs.

Superman has not shown any feats to be considered the speed of sound. Even with his spider sense, he cannot dodge dogs from below, a clone charging directly at him, and Kakashi from behind.

MS is overkill, but honestly, he could simply dodge Spiderman all day charging MS. Then boom, GG.

That or go directly underground the entire time while the clone plays with him.

Kakashi = Superhuman

Spiderman = Peek Human

Simple Genjutsu would also stomp Spiderman with relative ease.

Yet Spidey's webs trapped faster from what I know. On top of that, suppose it hits Kakashi. Kakashi isn't getting out. Wolverine couldn't so it's not like Kakashi could.

So dogs are suddenly gonna cause a bullet timing Spidey trouble? Riiiight. Clones are one shotted.

Proof please, Spider Man has encountered much worse.

I forget the exact time but I'm pretty sure Spider Man survived worse mind rape than Kakashi can deal, on top of that Kakashi's only genjutsu we've seen worked on, what, Pre Sakura? Lol at that doing much of anything to Spider Man.

Captain America is considered peak human yet he can trash some people in Narutoverse when even Narutoverse fodder is considered superhuman.

[Vivi]

kakashi is also much more intelligent than spiderman and has much more battle prowess



So Kakashi is more Intelligent than a man who Reed Richards accepted of being capable to Rival him in terms of Inteeligence?

And no...Spider-Man fought Cosmic Beings.
Not sure if it was Canon but Spiderman was involved with Galactus in the past IIRC.

[senji]

Yes i agree once kakashi gets spiderman in a genjutsu their is nothing Spiderman can do. Winner Kakashi

[Hatake Girl]

i still dont see how spidey can keep up with kakashi's speed. kakashi is a beast, i think that webs still wont work on him. its virtually the same thing as having to dodge shuriken and kunai. kakashi will just have to keep moving but i know he will adapt his battle plan as such.

[Vivi]

Yes i agree once kakashi gets spiderman in a genjutsu their is nothing Spiderman can do. Winner Kakashi

Kakashi's only Genjutsu is Hell Viewing.
A weak D-Rank Jutsu which only shows the Target a Horrorfying Vision.
Short-Ranged as well and also needs some time to activate.

[MadaraTobi]

Yes i agree once kakashi gets spiderman in a genjutsu their is nothing Spiderman can do. Winner Kakashi


Though,genjutsu may effect this fight i still say spiderman takes the crown

[Hatake Girl]

So Kakashi is more Intelligent than a man who Reed Richards accepted of being capable to Rival him in terms of Inteeligence?

And no...Spider-Man fought Cosmic Beings.
Not sure if it was Canon but Spiderman was involved with Galactus in the past IIRC.
do you think shikamaru is about as smart as spiderman? kakashi is smarter than shikamaru. spiderman is knowledgable about academic stuff. kakashi has battle smarts, which goes a longer way than knowing what the square root of 2784 is.

[[Shikamaru]]

Yet Spidey's webs trapped faster from what I know. On top of that, suppose it hits Kakashi. Kakashi isn't getting out. Wolverine couldn't so it's not like Kakashi could.

So dogs are suddenly gonna cause a bullet timing Spidey trouble? Riiiight. Clones are one shotted.

Proof please, Spider Man has encountered much worse.

I forget the exact time but I'm pretty sure Spider Man survived worse mind rape than Kakashi can deal, on top of that Kakashi's only genjutsu we've seen worked on, what, Pre Sakura? Lol at that doing much of anything to Spider Man.

Captain America is considered peak human yet he can trash some people in Narutoverse when even Narutoverse fodder is considered superhuman.Pre sakura or not, what's your point? Spierman instantly grows an immunity to Genjutsu becaues it's a D-ranked jutsu? Nice.

Bullet time? It's basic Physics. He cannot dodge three things at once, dogs from below, a clone in front and Shurikens thrown at him once he leaps above to evade the dogs below.

As far as I know, I doubt webbing the ground and pulling himself out of the way would be enough to dodge a blitz from a transonic Kakashi in mid air, and another below.

[Hatake Girl]

Kakashi's only Genjutsu is Hell Viewing.
A weak D-Rank Jutsu which only shows the Target a Horrorfying Vision.
Short-Ranged as well and also needs some time to activate.
well what happens if he is able to fire off the jutsu?
spiderman might be tricked into thinking that mary jane is under attack or something. that could leave him open for an attack.

listen, im not saying kakashi would destroy spiderman. i just think that he has more of a chance of winning given the two fight eachother.

[Vivi]

do you think shikamaru is about as smart as spiderman? kakashi is smarter than shikamaru. spiderman is knowledgable about academic stuff. kakashi has battle smarts, which goes a longer way than knowing what the square root of 2784 is.

Nope.I say Spidey might be Smarter than Both.
Do you even know who Reed Richards is?
Reed Richards created Time Machines,Dimension Portals,Multiversal Computers,Planetbusting Weapons,FTL Spaceships etc.
This man admitted Spidey being able to Rival him.

And?Battle smarts so what.When has Kakashi ever fought Cosmic Being like Spidey Did?

well what happens if he is able to fire off the jutsu?
spiderman might be tricked into thinking that mary jane is under attack or something. that could leave him open for an attack.

listen, im not saying kakashi would destroy spiderman. i just think that he has more of a chance of winning given the two fight eachother.

Kakashi doesnt know who Mary Jane is nor what Spidey is afraid of.
Kakashi used it on Sakura to make her believe Sasuke gets Mutilated.

Also like said its short-ranged.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

I lolled at some of these posts, saying that Kakashi can beat Spidey, what a joke. :lol:

Anyways, Spidey wins this one with Spider Sense, I'm not too fresh on Marvel, but I'm pretty sure Spider-Man > Sasuke.

[Hatake Girl]

Nope.I say Spidey might be Smarter than Both.
Do you even know who Reed Richards is?
Reed Richards created Time Machines,Dimension Portals,Multiversal Computers,Planetbusting Weapons,FTL Spaceships etc.
This man admitted Spidey being able to Rival him.

And?Battle smarts so what.When has Kakashi ever fought Cosmic Being like Spidey Did?
cosmic being or not. what about spidey vs. pein? do you think he could have come out after that one? yeah kakashi failed in that battle but he killed one or two of pein's bodies if im not mistaken. and yes i am familiar with reed richard. my point is you can be a freakin genius but not have battle prowess. kakashi is battle savy, more i believe than spiderman.

[Vivi]

I lolled at some of these posts, saying that Kakashi can beat Spidey, what a joke. :lol:

Anyways, Spidey wins this one with Spider Sense, I'm not too fresh on Marvel, but I'm pretty sure Spider-Man > Sasuke.

Been done before and winner was Spidey.

[[Shikamaru]]

Lol Spiderman > Sasuke.

What a joke that is.

He cannot dodge Amy or break out of MS Genjutsu.

What a fail that must have been.

[Hatake Girl]

I lolled at some of these posts, saying that Kakashi can beat Spidey, what a joke. :lol:

Anyways, Spidey wins this one with Spider Sense, I'm not too fresh on Marvel, but I'm pretty sure Spider-Man > Sasuke.
you cant believe that spidey sense will completely win the battle for spiderman. kakashi is crazy fast, can spidey sense keep up? plus kakashi can launch multiple attacks at teh same time, whether it be with summons or clones.
spidey sense is also somewhat being cancelled out by kakashi's sharingan. both do *basically* teh same thing

[Miles Edgeworth]

no. spiderman is not at kakashi's level. and just because he has only demonstrated around 50 jutsu, it doesnt mean that he cant to the others he has seen. kakashi is also much more intelligent than spiderman and has much more battle prowess


i agree. kakashi could easily catch spiderman in a genjutsu. spiderman is still only human, kakashi is a ninja w/ superhuman abilities.

No he isn't. He's beyond it.

Proof please, if you can't prove he has more than 50 jutsu then it means he merely doesn't have them.

LOL more intelligent? Reed Richards (one of the smartest characters in Marvel) stated that if Parker focused on science he would've rivaled him in intelligence. On top of that he designed web shooters himself and is an experienced fighter, fighting street thugs as well as cosmic threats, which is more experience than Kakashi has shown. Please tell me how Kakashi compares.

Spidey fought off freaking Hulk and survived due to his intelligence. Tell me the likeliness of Kakashi doing the same.

Genjutsu? Feh, Spidey trashed Mysterio, who is easily better than Kakashi is at illusions.

[MadaraTobi]

I lolled at some of these posts, saying that Kakashi can beat Spidey, what a joke. :lol:

Anyways, Spidey wins this one with Spider Sense, I'm not too fresh on Marvel, but I'm pretty sure Spider-Man > Sasuke.


Dont you mean kakashi?

[Vivi]

;2446956']Lol Spiderman > Sasuke.

What a joke that is.

He cannot dodge Amy or break out of MS Genjutsu.

What a fail that must have been.

So Spiderman defeated Juggernaut but cant beat Sasuke?

Heck Wolverine couldnt get out his Webs what makes you think Kakashi can?

Spider defeated Wolverine 10 Times in the Past and Wolverine>Kakashi.

Genjutsu? Feh, Spidey trashed Mysterio, who is easily better than Kakashi is at illusions.

Forgot about Mysterio.Yep Spidey took him and his Illusions out then no way Genjutsu works.

[[Shikamaru]]

No he isn't. He's beyond it.

Proof please, if you can't prove he has more than 50 jutsu then it means he merely doesn't have them.

LOL more intelligent? Reed Richards (one of the smartest characters in Marvel) stated that if Parker focused on science he would've rivaled him in intelligence. On top of that he designed web shooters himself and is an experienced fighter, fighting street thugs as well as cosmic threats, which is more experience than Kakashi has shown. Please tell me how Kakashi compares.

Spidey fought off freaking Hulk and survived due to his intelligence. Tell me the likeliness of Kakashi doing the same.

Genjutsu? Feh, Spidey trashed Mysterio, who is easily better than Kakashi is at illusions.
Bottom line, unless the web moves at transonic speed, Kakashi wins due to basic physics.

He cannot dodge multiple blitzes by clones and dog summons. Bullet time reaction or not, he's not faster then Kakashi.

[Miles Edgeworth]

;2447021']Bottom line, unless the web moves at transonic speed, Kakashi wins due to basic physics.

He cannot dodge multiple blitzes by clones and dog summons. Bullet time reaction or not, he's not faster then Kakashi.

So Spidey catching faster people means he can't catch Kakashi?

Yes he can, the funny thing is how you say they blitz the guy. Spidey Sense not only allows him to dodge a bullet an inch away from him, but tells him the best method of dodging.

And suddenly Shadow clones and dogs get around that? LOLZ.

[[Shikamaru]]

So Spiderman defeated Juggernaut but cant beat Sasuke?

Heck Wolverine couldnt get out his Webs what makes you think Kakashi can?

Spider defeated Wolverine 10 Times in the Past and Wolverine>Kakashi.
Point?

The fact he defeated him 10 times basically means he couldn't kill him.

Comparing anyone to Wolverine is basically useless, considering he's nearly invincible.

My point -> If the web isn't transonic Kakashi wins.

[Vivi]

;2447021']Bottom line, unless the web moves at transonic speed, Kakashi wins due to basic physics.

He cannot dodge multiple blitzes by clones and dog summons. Bullet time reaction or not, he's not faster then Kakashi.

And as we know Fiction goes so much after Physic Laws.

Considering Bullets move at about Supersonic Speed then yes Spidey Could.

Point?

The fact he defeated him 10 times basically means he couldn't kill him.

Comparing anyone to Wolverine is basically useless, considering he's nearly invincible.

My point -> If the web isn't transonic Kakashi wins.

Winning doesnt mean Kill.

Like Lee said.AoE.

[Miles Edgeworth]

;2447058']Point?

The fact he defeated him 10 times basically means he couldn't kill him.

Comparing anyone to Wolverine is basically useless, considering he's nearly invincible.

My point -> If the web isn't transonic Kakashi wins.

So Spider Man trapped people with web faster than Kakashi yet the web is not transonic?

On top of that Spidey can spam webs over a large AoE, what makes you think Kakashi dodges?

[[Shikamaru]]

So Spidey catching faster people means he can't catch Kakashi?

Yes he can, the funny thing is how you say they blitz the guy. Spidey Sense not only allows him to dodge a bullet an inch away from him, but tells him the best method of dodging.

And suddenly Shadow clones and dogs get around that? LOLZ.
Yes, for the past 3 posts, this is basic physics.

If he dodges the dogs, the clone attacks him in mid air.

If he webs the ground to dodge that, Kakashi kills him below with Chidori.

He can't dodge all three of them. Consdering the fact Spierman cannot move at transonic speeds.

If you give proof the webs are faster then transonic, the debate is over.

That's my logic.

[Hatake Girl]

street thugs differ from high level ninjas. the ways you would handle fighting each differ. but if you put the two styles against each other, i think that a ninja's skills in battle (regardless of how many jutsu they can perform or whatever) will beat the skills required to beat a thug.
and like i have already said, yeah both kakashi and parker are REALLY smart. but knowing something about science vs. knowing how to battle are two different things.
oh and hulk, now correct me when im wrong (and i very well might be cuz i dont really follow marvel stuff) but isnt the hulk's mind/thinking process affected whenever he is in the hulk form? would it really take much intelligence to combat that?
and ok then, take the genjutsu factor away. still i dont think it changes much

[321zigzag1]

Spiderman is superhuman with superhuman speed but not beyond sound.

He has supersonic+ reactions thanks to Spidersense precognition. So in general he mostly aimdodges not bullet time in actuality. So his supersonic reactions are different in a sense.

Actually in NF I recall Spiderman and Sasuke match was pretty even here and there. Aokji who despises Sasuke was defending him.

[Vivi]

;2447088']Yes, for the past 3 posts, this is basic physics.

If he dodges the dogs, the clone attacks him in mid air.

If he webs the ground to dodge that, Kakashi kills him below with Chidori.

He can't dodge all three of them. Consdering the fact Spierman cannot move at transonic speeds.

If you give proof the webs are faster then transonic, the debate is over.

That's my logic.

Physics = Crap in Fiction.

He dodges.

Yes he can.If he can dodge Bullets he can dodge them.
Bullets>Kakashi's Speed.

YOur Logic Fails.

street thugs differ from high level ninjas.

Guns>Ninja's?

[Miles Edgeworth]

;2447088']Yes, for the past 3 posts, this is basic physics.

If he dodges the dogs, the clone attacks him in mid air.

If he webs the ground to dodge that, Kakashi kills him below with Chidori.

He can't dodge all three of them. Consdering the fact Spierman cannot move at transonic speeds.

If you give proof the webs are faster then transonic, the debate is over.

That's my logic.

Fiction defies physics.

And you tell me the clones catch him how? They're not only lacking durability, but are not superior to supersonic reaction speed.

Kakashi isn't gonna hit him with a Chidori, he just can't with his speed.

But he reacts to supersonic speeds. Kakashi doesn't land a hit on him.

So Spidey can fight Quicksilver, who can travel half the world in a second, but can't dodge an attack from Kakashi, dogs, and a clone?

street thugs differ from high level ninjas. the ways you would handle fighting each differ. but if you put the two styles against each other, i think that a ninja's skills in battle (regardless of how many jutsu they can perform or whatever) will beat the skills required to beat a thug.
and like i have already said, yeah both kakashi and parker are REALLY smart. but knowing something about science vs. knowing how to battle are two different things.
oh and hulk, now correct me when im wrong (and i very well might be cuz i dont really follow marvel stuff) but isnt the hulk's mind/thinking process affected whenever he is in the hulk form? would it really take much intelligence to combat that?
and ok then, take the genjutsu factor away. still i dont think it changes much

You seem to have missed the part that said COSMIC BEINGS. You don't seem to know what they are and I don't feel like telling you, research yourself.

You ignored the post because apparently you didn't see a single thing we said.

Hulk solos Narutoverse with his power.

Okay, then tell me how Kakashi freaking kills Spidey. Oh wait he can't.

[[Shikamaru]]

Physics = Crap in Fiction.

He dodges.

Yes he can.If he can dodge Bullets he can dodge them.
Bullets>Kakashi's Speed.

YOur Logic Fails.



Guns>Ninja's?
My logic fails?

Do you have any sense of intelligence?

You can't move your body in mid air to dodge a transonic speed blitz. Having bullet time reaction speed means nothing unless you can move to dodge it, when you're in mid air, you can't move.

Hense the fact Lee stomped Sasuke in pre-skip, having the sense to react to something doesn't mean you can, especially considering you're in mid-air with nothing to turn or move you.

Hense the multiple times Naruto summoned clones to kick or throw him out of the way of mid-air attacks.

I'm sorry, Spiderman doesn't have clones to do that for him. Once he leaps into the air, the battle is over, especially considering there are no buildings to web.

Unless Spiderman instantly can fly, he cannot dodge transonic speed blitzes in mid air.

[MadaraTobi]

You cant really factor in the laws of physics, considering this is all fiction and would never be possible at all.

[321zigzag1]

You don't have to have necessarily bulletlike speed to dodge bullets. Anyway the reason why Spiderman has supersonic reactions is mainly because of Spidersense precognition.

[Vivi]

;2447189']My logic fails?

Do you have any sense of intelligence?

You can't move your body in mid air to dodge a transonic speed blitz. Having bullet time reaction speed means nothing unless you can move to dodge it, when you're in mid air, you can't move.

Hense the fact Lee stomped Sasuke in pre-skip, having the sense to react to something doesn't mean you can, especially considering you're in mid-air with nothing to turn or move you.

Hense the multiple times Naruto summoned clones to kick or throw him out of the way of mid-air attacks.

I'm sorry, Spiderman doesn't have clones to do that for him.

Yes I do.

Yes you can.Fiction.

So your comparing Genins who were about Faster than the eye can see to Spiderman with Supersonic Reactions?Yep Fail.

Naruto hadnt got good Reaction speed which spidey has.

I'm sorry Kakashi hasnt got the Speed to get Spidey.

[321zigzag1]

Its more like Kakashi isn't fast enough to overcome spidersense.

[MadaraTobi]

You don't have to have necessarily bulletlike speed to dodge bullets. Anyway the reason why Spiderman has supersonic reactions is mainly because of Spidersense precognition.

How do you dodge something that's aimed at you that's going much faster than you?

[[Shikamaru]]

Yes I do.

Yes you can.Fiction.

So your comparing Genins who were about Faster than the eye can see to Spiderman with Supersonic Reactions?Yep Fail.

Naruto hadnt got good Reaction speed which spidey has.

I'm sorry Kakashi hasnt got the Speed to get Spidey.
Fiction automaticly let's him turn and move in mid air like a plane?

Nice.

Once again Super Sonic Reaction Speed < Transonic Movement Speed In mid air.

This is my argument, a man, who cannot fly, cannot dodge transonic blitz attacks from multiple clones at once while in mid-free fall.

Sure, he has superior reaction speed. But the fact he's in the air means he cannot dodge multiple clones because his movement is crippled, which is why I stated he summons the dogs first, to ensure spider man leaps into the air to dodge.

May I ask you stop saying Fail, It's annoying and disrespectful. After all, it's not fail in any way.

If you jump off a cliff, you can't move, you're completely subjected to attacks in free fall.

[Hatake Girl]

You cant really factor in the laws of physics, considering this is all fiction and would never be possible at all.
then if its all fiction, then anything could happen. kakashi could win. spiderman could win. why are we debating then?

[321zigzag1]

How do you dodge something that's aimed at you that's going much faster than you?

Its all about the distance here I will give you an example.

If I threw at ball at you from like 3 meters away you can dodge as long you can react to it.
The ball is moving faster than you but you can still evade it if you can react to the speed and can move enough within that so distance.

[MadaraTobi]

then if its all fiction, then anything could happen. kakashi could win. spiderman could win. why are we debating then?

Were debating a FICTIONAL fight,and were using info of both characters to complete this debate.

[[Shikamaru]]

Its all about the distance here I will give you an example.

If I threw at ball at you from like 3 meters away you can dodge as long you can react to it.
The ball is moving faster than you but you can still evade it if you can react to the speed and can move enough within that so distance.
Yes, which is what my argument is.

Spiderman cannot move in mid air, so he cannot dodge something faster then him.

Yes, no?

[321zigzag1]

;2447352']Yes, which is what my argument is.

Spiderman cannot move in mid air, so he cannot dodge something faster then him.

Yes, no?

The main problem is Kakashi isn't fast enough to overcome Spiderman's spidersense in general plus he can web out of the way.
Unless Kakashi surprises Spiderman through a bunshin trick like lightning clone or bunshin diversion at close range.

Kakashi can defeat Spiderman this way though.

Lightning clone paralysis and Kamui Spiderman.

[MadaraTobi]

Its all about the distance here I will give you an example.

If I threw at ball at you from like 3 meters away you can dodge as long you can react to it.
The ball is moving faster than you but you can still evade it if you can react to the speed and can move enough within that so distance.


Yes,but the equivalence of a ball to a normal human is completely different from a bullet to a ninja.Though ninja are fast a bullet would still go through,and hit them if the aim was dead on,there would be no way to dodge it.

[[Shikamaru]]

The main problem is Kakashi isn't fast enough to overcome Spiderman's spidersense in general plus he can web out of the way.
Unless Kakashi surprises Spiderman through a bunshin trick like lightning clone or bunshin diversion at close range.

Kakashi can defeat Spiderman this way though.

Lightning clone paralysis and Kamui Spiderman.
Overcomming it in mid-air would be relatively easy.

Web out of the way? Where? The ground? Lol Kakashi's blitzing is much, much faster then webbing to dodge. Transonic webs? Doubt it. He also has to grip the web and pull, which simply won't happen quick enough with a transonic clone coming directly at him and shurikens twisting at him.

I already said Kakashi was there waiting on him below also. The dogs are below as well.

There is no way he is dodging a blitz from below and in mid-air.

[321zigzag1]

Yes,but the equivalence of a ball to a normal human is completely different from a bullet to a ninja.Though ninja are fast a bullet would still go through,and hit them if the aim was dead on,there would be no way to dodge it.

No the same logic applies everywhere.

If the ninja can react to a bullet and his movements are fast enough to do within that sort of particular distance he can dodge it.

[321zigzag1]

;2447466']Overcomming it in mid-air would be relatively easy.

Web out of the way? Where? The ground? Lol Kakashi's blitzing is much, much faster then webbing to dodge. Transonic webs? Doubt it. He also has to grip the web and pull, which simply won't happen quick enough.

I already said Kakashi was there waiting on him below also. The dogs are below as well.

There is no way he is dodging a blitz from below and in mid-air.

For some reason I thought the location was in a city.

Spiderman thanks to spidersense has supersonic reactions+ or should I say precognition everytime. If Kakashi is faster than SPiderman under spidey sensing than thats one thing. But can he thats the question.

Anyway again Kakashi can win this. Lightning clone paralysis and kamui.

[[Shikamaru]]

I asked if the webs were faster then transonic at the beginning, I got no answer.

If he can't web and pull above transonic speeds, then Spiderman cannot win this battle.

[kokojojo]

even if spiderman is in midair he can still use his webs to either nulliyfy attacks or to pull himself to another direction

[321zigzag1]

;2447531']I asked if the webs were faster then transonic at the beginning, I got no answer.

If he can't web and pull above transonic speeds, then Spiderman cannot win this battle.

Oh that.

No his webs aren't above soundspeed IIRC but spiderman has the capability of webbing people much faster than he at close range through trickery and smarts.

Its not something Kakashi can win either easily but I already provided a possible solution so.

[Miles Edgeworth]

The main problem is Kakashi isn't fast enough to overcome Spiderman's spidersense in general plus he can web out of the way.
Unless Kakashi surprises Spiderman through a bunshin trick like lightning clone or bunshin diversion at close range.

Kakashi can defeat Spiderman this way though.

Lightning clone paralysis and Kamui Spiderman.

Problem with lightning clone is that it doesn't work on Spidey Sense, Spidey Sense allows SM to distinguish fakes from the real Kakashi.

On top of that wide AoE webs would take the clone out, shocking the webs, but doing nothing to Spidey. The only way Raiton Clone works is if it somehow gets close to spidey and forces close range attacks. Even then MS takes too long.

[321zigzag1]

Problem with lightning clone is that it doesn't work on Spidey Sense, Spidey Sense allows SM to distinguish fakes from the real Kakashi.

On top of that wide AoE webs would take the clone out, shocking the webs, but doing nothing to Spidey. The only way Raiton Clone works is if it somehow gets close to spidey and forces close range attacks. Even then MS takes too long.

I don't recall this.

Yes I suppose.

Not anymore as its pretty quick anyway.

Sasuke vs Spiderman would have been a much more a better match.

[MadaraTobi]

dude seriously kakashi easily no questions asked

1) A lot of us would beg to differ,through debate.


2) If you read on I changed it to the leaf village.


3)Dont call me "dude",its uneducated slang and highly disrespectful!

[The 1st Hokage]

i still dont see how spidey can keep up with kakashi's speed. kakashi is a beast, i think that webs still wont work on him. its virtually the same thing as having to dodge shuriken and kunai. kakashi will just have to keep moving but i know he will adapt his battle plan as such.
Bullet timing super human spider dude>Transonic ninja dude

Spidey Sense>Sharingan eye

Spidey takes this easily.Like Rocklee earlier,his only known genjutsu worked on Pre sakura,spidey is 20,000 leagues (under the sea) above her.The thing and wolverine couldnt get out of the web,kakashi has no chance.As for kakshi being smarter,Peter Parker is a professor at a university.That beats an adult novel reader in intelligence no problem.
This goes to Spidey with ease.

[321zigzag1]

mostly aimdodging super human spider dude

Spidey Sense>Sharingan eye

Spidey takes this easily.Like Rocklee earlier,his only known genjutsu worked on Pre sakura,spidey is 20,000 leagues (under the sea) above her.The thing and wolverine couldnt get out of the web,kakashi has no chance.As for kakshi being smarter,Peter Parker is a professor at a university.That beats an adult novel reader in intelligence no problem.
This goes to Spidey with ease.

First sentence fixed.

In terms of prediction oh yes.

We are talking about combat intelligence not book smarts. Anyway Kakashi can evade the webs but if he gets caught thats anotehr story unless he can use raikiri to break it out but the webs are supposed to be stronger than steel or not?

[The 1st Hokage]

First sentence fixed.

In terms of prediction oh yes.

We are talking about combat intelligence not book smarts. Anyway Kakashi can evade the webs but if he gets caught thats anotehr story unless he can use raikiri to break it out but the webs are supposed to be stronger than steel or not?
Well,the thing was hardly able to escpae it,so you tell me.

[<3Gaara_Girl<3]

Once in genjutsu though spiderman will be helpless to kakashi and therefore Kakashi wins, I mean there is no possible way that spiderman could break out of genjutsu without chakra control

[[Shikamaru]]

Once in genjutsu though spiderman will be helpless to kakashi and therefore Kakashi wins, I mean there is no possible way that spiderman could break out of genjutsu without chakra control
According to Rock Lee he's survived even stronger illusionary techniques by other mind controllers, meaning a D-ranked Genjutsu wouldn't really effect him.

Especially considering it's short-ranged.

I disagreed, of course. But, I don't necessary read the spiderman comics.

[The 1st Hokage]

Once in genjutsu though spiderman will be helpless to kakashi and therefore Kakashi wins, I mean there is no possible way that spiderman could break out of genjutsu without chakra control
Kakshi has one known genjutsu,and it worked on pre sakura,and spider man is alot stronger,faster,and smarter than her.spider man has bullet timed many times which puts him at supersonic+ reaction speed.His spider sense is better than 1 sharingan eye.Spider man is just better than kakashi.

[Vivi]

Here's why Spidey wins:
Spideman fought off all members of the Sinister six at once.
Vulture,Sandman,Mysterio,Doc Ock,Electro and Hobgoblin in their originals.
Vulture and Hobgoblin can fly easily at Mach Speed,Electro shoots lightning,Mysterio casts Illusions,Doc Ock is known enough and Sandman can be compared to gaara.
What can Kakashi do against someone who is able to beat them at once?

Genjutsu is worthless.Spidey sense recognizes threats.
Meaning if Spidey is in Genjutsu and is attacked it still warns him and he can dodge.

[kokojojo]

ok forget about the genjutsu guys. the only person who wud fall for that is pre-sakura. but i'd like to point out the the illusions in naruto shippuden are different than mysterio's illusions since in narutoverse genjutsu involves controlling some1's mind by actually controlling their senses. but anyways the webs arent invincible im pretty sure. spidey is VERY difficult to hit but not impossible if u use multiple attacks coming from different directions. it cud go either way but im slightly leaning toward kakashi

[The 1st Hokage]

ok forget about the genjutsu guys. the only person who wud fall for that is pre-sakura. but i'd like to point out the the illusions in naruto shippuden are different than mysterio's illusions since in narutoverse genjutsu involves controlling some1's mind by actually controlling their senses. but anyways the webs arent invincible im pretty sure. spidey is VERY difficult to hit but not impossible if u use multiple attacks coming from different directions. it cud go either way but im slightly leaning toward kakashi

Pink:Spidey Sense will keep Spider man from getting trapped in a genjutsu by alerting him.He knocks kakashi out and its over.Spider man has the strength to lift up to 15+ tons.that trumps kakashi's feats

Red:The Thing had alot of trouble getting out of it.Nothing kakashi has could break it.

Blue:What attacks do you have in mind?

[crystalblade13]

kakashi could kamui spiderman while he's caught in web.

[The 1st Hokage]

kakashi could kamui spiderman while he's caught in web.
Spider man can be alerted by his spider sense and dodge it.kakshi can't win