Toguro Brothers vs. Narutoverse

[SageoftheSixPaths]

The Toguro Brothers from Yu Yu Hakusho vs. the Narutoverse.

Go.

[ByakuganAlex]

Naruto still pulls of a victory. hachibi and other tails are still there. madara is still beast. Danzo has like 13 lives. hidan could fight i guess. that one guy with the moustache....

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Naruto still pulls of a victory. hachibi and other tails are still there. madara is still beast. Danzo has like 13 lives. hidan could fight i guess. that one guy with the moustache....
I fail to see how any of those things beat the Toguro bros. They both have massive regeneration and younger Toguro has city block level busting, and durability higher than that. He easily takes out all the tailed beasts we've seen with the exception of Hachibi. However, both are hypersonic, so they easily dodge a Hachibi blast and the younger can punch its face off.

Madara gets ripped in half the second he becomes tangible and tries to warp either brother. Danzo gets repeatedely beaten down, stabbed, and torn assunder time and time again.

Hidan gets his head punched off.

I don't know who the mustache guy is, but he's going down, too.

[Pennywise]

Hahaha they'll be lucky if they can mange to get past one of the Toguros regen let along both of them...Toguro the Younger could probably solo here to be honest.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

i gotta agree i gotta go with narutoverse they have millions of jutsu and sheer numbers
I fail to see how anyone in the Narutoverse can hit, much less hurt, either brother. Both can also regenerate from any tiny scrapes they get. Name one thing that can kill either one of them and I might concede that Narutoverse wins.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Hahaha they'll be lucky if they can mange to get past one of the Toguros regen let along both of them...Toguro the Younger could probably solo here to be honest.
Stuff like Hachibi and Genjutsu make this incredibly difficult for him, as would Pain and Madara.

Anyways, this fight is pretty much just Younger Toguro against them all, since Elder Toguro would most likely just be his sword or something.

[ByakuganAlex]

I fail to see how anyone in the Narutoverse can hit, much less hurt, either brother. Both can also regenerate from any tiny scrapes they get. Name one thing that can kill either one of them and I might concede that Narutoverse wins.

amaterasu???
sasunoo??
hachibi blast if it hits??
madara warping???
kakashi warping???
poison mist???
giant rasengan???
poison bugs move???
jashin ritual???
pein soul stealer???
dog summoning???

[SageoftheSixPaths]

amaterasu???
Burning limbs are cut off and regenerated in a second.
sasunoo??
Is easily dodged and smashed to bits by Younger Toguro.
hachibi blast if it hits??
Wouldn't hit, so it doesn't matter.
madara warping???
Madara is punched to a bloody mist the second he becomes tangible. Younger Toguro is mid to high tier hypersonic. He easily dodges or kills Madara before he does anything
kakashi warping???
Warped body part is regenerated or Kamui is easily dodged.
poison mist???
Dodged or the cells are regenerated.
giant rasengan???
Plain old tanked.
poison bugs move???
Infected body part is cut off and regenerated.
jashin ritual???
Tanked and regened. And how is Hidan supposed to hit them?
pein soul stealer???
Dodged, or Younger Toguro sucks Pain's soul out of his body himself by going 100%.
dog summoning???
Turned into a bloody mist or crushed.
In red.

[Miles Edgeworth]

What kind of wank is this, Toguro brothers freaking stomp, blitz is quite easy and there's nobody in Narutoverse who can do anything.

Naruto still pulls of a victory. hachibi and other tails are still there. madara is still beast. Danzo has like 13 lives. hidan could fight i guess. that one guy with the moustache....

LOL Hachibi. Yeah the Hachibi that was downed by one Amaterasu. Also the Hachibi that was featless with speed.

And exactly what does Madara do?

Danzo's Izanagi gets worn out and he dies. Seriously I fail to see how you can compare Toguro Bros to Danzo.

Hidan gets raped.

Wut?

amaterasu???
sasunoo??
hachibi blast if it hits??
madara warping???
kakashi warping???
poison mist???
giant rasengan???
poison bugs move???
jashin ritual???
pein soul stealer???
dog summoning???

Raikage doesn't have regen and he tanked it. On top of that Toguro Bros are faster than Raikage, who dodged it easily.

Toguro absorbs souls if he uses 100% power, there goes like 90% of Narutoverse.

Lol at Madara or Kakashi catching Toguro brothers, Hiei was already calced to be Supersonic+ to hypersonic in Saint Beast arc, Toguro Bros are faster than that.

Lol at poison mist.

Giant Rasengan gets raped, how can you seriously wank that hard, they can TANK that crap.

Wut.

Jashin does crap, Hidan's soul gets absorbed, or his head gets knocked off.

Soul Removal doesn't work if you can't grab your opponent or if you die first.

LOL dog summoning, Toguro using like 20% of his power destroyed a giant beast, if Gamaken can fight off the dog summoning Toguros stomp it.

Seriously you are wanking Narutoverse.

Through powerscaling top tiers such as perhaps Kyuubi, Rikudou, Juubi, and etc might have a chance. Without them Narutoverse gets owned hard.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

I edited the OP to remove all limitations for the Narutoverse. I didn't think this would be that big of a stomp. Apparently I misjudged. As of now, everything goes.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Is powerscaling allowed?

Because potentially Rikudou and Juubi could take them out, despite their featlessness.

There's a possibility Kyuubi can win too but he still needs more feats, he's powerful but has no conclusive speed or durability feats yet.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Is powerscaling allowed?

Because potentially Rikudou and Juubi could take them out, despite their featlessness.

There's a possibility Kyuubi can win too but he still needs more feats, he's powerful but has no conclusive speed or durability feats yet.
With powerscaling, Rikudou easily takes them both out. However, I prefer to use only feats, as powerscaling and hype can lead to massive wanking on the parts of certain characters.

Someone could come out and say Guy has mastered all 8 Gates and is massively FTL when he maxes them out, and can take out both brothers before he dies.

You know, things like that.

As for Kyuubi, I'd pin him as being able to go up to eight tails, not the full nine, since we haven't actually seen that yet. However, all we've got for eight tails is massive durability and physical strength, as well as massive chakra coat. Everything else is normal feats and such.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Toguro to bee and naruto* "your both stalwart fighters..I'll honor you with seventy percent of my stength" *begins to bulk up*

at this point...people start dying

[Miles Edgeworth]

Alright.

How strong is KN8 anyway? We need to make a thread about it, because I myself am not sure how KN8 compares to other characters in HST.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Toguro to bee and naruto* "your both stalwart fighters..I'll honor you with seventy percent of my stength" *begins to bulk up*

at this point...people start dying
Essentially, yeah. Then Elder Toguro puts on another puppet show of them all dying in extremely gruesome detail. xD
Alright.

How strong is KN8 anyway? We need to make a thread about it, because I myself am not sure how KN8 compares to other characters in HST.
KN8 is easily top tier in my book. From what I've surmised, he's vastly superior to Hachibi in terms of durability and sheer physical power. By powerscaling his Menacing Ball should also have more destructive power behind it as well. KN8's biggest problem is its severe lack of any speed feats at all.

[Miles Edgeworth]

Essentially, yeah. Then Elder Toguro puts on another puppet show of them all dying in extremely gruesome detail. xD

KN8 is easily top tier in my book. From what I've surmised, he's vastly superior to Hachibi in terms of durability and sheer physical power. By powerscaling his Menacing Ball should also have more destructive power behind it as well. KN8's biggest problem is its severe lack of any speed feats at all.

KN8 is most certainly top tier Narutoverse, without a doubt.

But how he compares to Bleachverse and OPverse characters is what I wanna know.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

KN8 is most certainly top tier Narutoverse, without a doubt.

But how he compares to Bleachverse and OPverse characters is what I wanna know.
In my eyes he takes out most of the Bleachverse pretty easily. Same goes for OP. Kyuubi, even at only KN8, is top tier in the HST pretty easily. He's got more brute strength than just about anyone, and easily tanked a mountain buster+. By powerscaling he's also a casual mountain buster, so I'd say he's a good deal stronger than almost anything in HST. The only ones I can think of who can beat KN8 are Whitebeard, Blackbeard, H2 Ichigo (with hype and powerscaling), maybe Aizen, maybe Yamamoto, Rikudou Sennin, the Juubi, and a few others.

[Miles Edgeworth]

In my eyes he takes out most of the Bleachverse pretty easily. Same goes for OP. Kyuubi, even at only KN8, is top tier in the HST pretty easily. He's got more brute strength than just about anyone, and easily tanked a mountain buster+. By powerscaling he's also a casual mountain buster, so I'd say he's a good deal stronger than almost anything in HST. The only ones I can think of who can beat KN8 are Whitebeard, Blackbeard, H2 Ichigo (with hype and powerscaling), maybe Aizen, maybe Yamamoto, Rikudou Sennin, the Juubi, and a few others.

What about Shinji? Shinji doesn't have much raw power but his ability is broken enough to confuse KN8 enough to buy time to kill him imo.

Honestly Yamamoto is mostly hype, with current feats if Yamamoto could beat KN8 a lot of people could defeat KN8. For example, Ace and Akainu, who as far as I know have better fire usage.

I think logias might be able to defeat him due to the fact that KN8 can't do much to them, for example Enel could probably take out KN8 since he has massive speed as well as logia and powerful lightning techs.

The thing about KN8 is that it has a lot of power but since so many people in HST are hypersonic there is a possibility they could fight it off since KN8 still has few feats, but KN8 could potentially defeat a lot of HST given he survived Chibaku Tensei as well as broke out of it. He's still lacking speed feats though, and hypersonic opponents could be a big problem.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

In my eyes he takes out most of the Bleachverse pretty easily. Same goes for OP. .

what?!

huh/? no freaking way

[SageoftheSixPaths]

what?!

huh/? no freaking way
I was talking about KN8, not the Toguro Bros. Although the Toguro Bros do solo a large portion of the lower class Bleach and OP characters.

[Miles Edgeworth]

I'm pretty sure Younger Toguro is around mid to high tier One Piece or so, he's most certainly stronger than the majority of Narutoverse and can probably defeat all but the strongest of Bleachverse and OPverse. For example, I'm pretty sure the Espada, Aizen, Shinji, and H2 Ichigo are above Toguro (or at least around his level) and most of the Shichibukai as well as the Admirals and the stronger pirates of OP, plus logias.

[crystalblade13]

something tells me that if thousands of huge sommons ,energy blasts, shuriken, and bombs are being thrown at the toguro bros ALL AT ONCE(not to mention rasenshuriken and high level genjutsu's) they would eventually be blown into small pieces and burned repeatedly by amaterasu until madara sucked them up. they wouldnt beat the entire verse alone, theres no way.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I was talking about KN8, not the Toguro Bros. Although the Toguro Bros do solo a large portion of the lower class Bleach and OP characters.

thats exactly who i meant

no way in hell based on feats is any naruto character lasting more then a few hours in bleach or OP

something tells me that if thousands of huge sommons ,energy blasts, shuriken, and bombs are being thrown at the toguro bros ALL AT ONCE(not to mention rasenshuriken and high level genjutsu's) they would eventually be blown into small pieces and burned repeatedly by amaterasu until madara sucked them up. they wouldnt beat the entire verse alone, theres no way.

most of the guys would have their bodies destroyed by Karasu's projections

the rest would have their souls torn out of their bodies..by Toguro vacuum cleaner powers

[321zigzag1]

thats exactly who i meant

no way in hell based on feats is any naruto character lasting more then a few hours in bleach or OP


The only feat we have for KN8 is tanking mountain+ sized Chibaku Tensei and nothing else really not even some kind of speed feat. Those are few problems plus some broken shikai and bankai and such.

Although I have yet to see a Bleach captain showing a mountain level of durability although I believe you said Kenpachi does.

The bleach characters showing immense durability. H2 Ichigo.

[Abigail]

something tells me that if thousands of huge sommons ,energy blasts, shuriken, and bombs are being thrown at the toguro bros ALL AT ONCE(not to mention rasenshuriken and high level genjutsu's) they would eventually be blown into small pieces and burned repeatedly by amaterasu until madara sucked them up. they wouldnt beat the entire verse alone, theres no way.
Lol no.

None of that will actually hurt them.

It's like throwing firecrackers at a tank.

[The 1st Hokage]

Rape.20% younger toguro carried a giant concrete ring a few miles,which is a better strength feat than any naruto characters.At 50% he tanked a spirit gun with ease after being blasted a few miles.He was also owning Yusuke even after the spirit cuffs came off.Younger toguro's soul suck at 90%-100% solos

Older toguro at one point became invinsible in that verse,but kurame just used that whacked out tree of sorrows and that was the end of that.be he tanked andything Kuwabara could do,He got his head cut off but realy all he got was a paper cut.He could also became Younger toguros shield,sword or any one of a thousand weapons.

[Pennywise]

something tells me that if thousands of huge sommons ,energy blasts, shuriken, and bombs are being thrown at the toguro bros ALL AT ONCE(not to mention rasenshuriken and high level genjutsu's) they would eventually be blown into small pieces and burned repeatedly by amaterasu until madara sucked them up. they wouldnt beat the entire verse alone, theres no way.

No...just no, none of these will put down either of them, and after thier done, Toguro the Younger eats thier souls, and kills what few people can resist it at 100%

[SageoftheSixPaths]

I honestly think the only problem for the Toguro brothers is Chibaku Tensei, Chou Shinra Tensei, and the Kyuubi. Other than that, they should rape everyone else.

[Nyruss]

I doubt Chou Shinra Tensei would do much.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

I doubt Chou Shinra Tensei would do much.
It would buy time by knocking them both far away or crushing them into the earth. It offers time for a Hachibi blast or something.

[crystalblade13]

actual scenario: elder toguro-( while he and his bro are killing hundreds of fodder shinobi) Wow bro this is easy! younger toguro- yeah i know! kakashi- (from a safe distance away) target in sight, MANGEKYO SHARINGAN! (elder toguro gets sucked into another demention) younger toguro- oh noes bro, where did you go!? (hears flute) toguro- im not feelin so good... tayuya- ive got him itachi, your up! itachi gets toguro in tsukiyomi. sasuke and naruto- ok, its our turn (procedes to rasenshuriken and ametarasu toguro to death. madara- (once toguro is in small pieces) GET IN MY FACE! (absorbs toguro). and thats how the naruto verse wins. it could work, lol

[Trafalgar Law]

actual scenario: elder toguro-( while he and his bro are killing hundreds of fodder shinobi) Wow bro this is easy! younger toguro- yeah i know! kakashi- (from a safe distance away) target in sight, MANGEKYO SHARINGAN! (elder toguro gets sucked into another demention) younger toguro- oh noes bro, where did you go!? (hears flute) toguro- im not feelin so good... tayuya- ive got him itachi, your up! itachi gets toguro in tsukiyomi. sasuke and naruto- ok, its our turn (procedes to rasenshuriken and ametarasu toguro to death. madara- (once toguro is in small pieces) GET IN MY FACE! (absorbs toguro). and thats how the naruto verse wins. it could work, lol

Actual scenario: Younger Toguro - Crap, my arm just fell off. Looks like I'm going to have to get serious.

*bulks up to 70%*

*Kakashi, tayuya and every fodder ninja there get their souls sucked out*

Itachi, Naruto and Sasuke: Crap.

*Itachi, Naruto and Sasuke are speedblitzed and crushed into a bloody pulp*

[crystalblade13]

he could teleport his whole body, not just the arm

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

actual scenario: elder toguro-(while he and his bro are killing hundreds of fodder shinobi) Wow bro this is easy! younger toguro- yeah i know! kakashi- (from a safe distance away) target in sight, MANGEKYO SHARINGAN! (elder toguro gets sucked into another demention) younger toguro- oh noes bro, where did you go!? (hears flute) toguro- im not feelin so good... tayuya- ive got him itachi, your up! itachi gets toguro in tsukiyomi. sasuke and naruto- ok, its our turn (procedes to rasenshuriken and ametarasu toguro to death. madara- (once toguro is in small pieces) GET IN MY FACE! (absorbs toguro). and thats how the naruto verse wins. it could work, lol
No, just no.

[Trafalgar Law]

he could teleport his whole body, not just the arm

When has he ever shown the ability to teleport anything bigger than an arm?

So far, he's used it on Deidara's arm, and a missile. Both of those seem about arm sized to me.

Hell, considering the size of younger Toguro, it wouldn't even take out his arm.

[crystalblade13]

he's teleported deidara's fairly large clone explotion.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

he's teleported deidara's fairly large clone explotion.
How does he teleport a hypersonic object? That's way too fast for Kamui to work. The best it's shown is supersonic warping.

[Pennywise]

he could teleport his whole body, not just the arm

Yeah, good luck with that, is that before or after Kakashi gets his soul eaten.

[Miles Edgeworth]

actual scenario: elder toguro-( while he and his bro are killing hundreds of fodder shinobi) Wow bro this is easy! younger toguro- yeah i know! kakashi- (from a safe distance away) target in sight, MANGEKYO SHARINGAN! (elder toguro gets sucked into another demention) younger toguro- oh noes bro, where did you go!? (hears flute) toguro- im not feelin so good... tayuya- ive got him itachi, your up! itachi gets toguro in tsukiyomi. sasuke and naruto- ok, its our turn (procedes to rasenshuriken and ametarasu toguro to death. madara- (once toguro is in small pieces) GET IN MY FACE! (absorbs toguro). and thats how the naruto verse wins. it could work, lol

Wut are the chances of this happening, you act as if the Toguro Bros are slow and weak enough for this to actually happen.

First off, Genjutsu won't work if you can't successfully land it before your brains are knocked into porridge.

Lol at Kamui hitting them.

Rasenshuriken and Amaterasu are easily dodged, maybe tanked, at the least Ammy can be tanked.

Madara isn't gonna capture them, he hasn't shown anything near hypersonic feats.

[Seraphim]

well, chibaku tensai could slow them down enough for kamui to possibly connect.

[Miles Edgeworth]

well, chibaku tensai could slow them down enough for kamui to possibly connect.

That's assuming that somehow, someway, Chibaku Tensei even gets TIME to be activated. Highly doubtful.

[Abigail]

And even if kamui does land, then what?

[Teddie]

-__-
Your a big fan of spitethreading.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

-__-
Your a big fan of spitethreading.
How so? I still haven't heard a counter to KN6 or KN8.

[Teddie]

Hermmmmm
I'm not gunna post cuz I dont know much about YYH
But the way you described them to me makes them seem able to tank a KN8 Menacing Ball

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Hermmmmm
I'm not gunna post cuz I dont know much about YYH
But the way you described them to me makes them seem able to tank a KN8 Menacing Ball
There is no KN8 Menacing Ball as of yet. xD

And they can tank anything up to KN6 blast with ease. Elder Toguro in his strongest form could possibly tank that as well.

[Teddie]

There is no KN8 Menacing Ball as of yet. xD

And they can tank anything up to KN6 blast with ease. Elder Toguro in his strongest form could possibly tank that as well.

-_- Powerscaling, but you dont accept that
And you used the words immune to death....

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

The bleach characters showing immense durability. H2 Ichigo.

Sajin kommamura and zaraki kempachi

aizen and yama both seem to wield offensive power good enough to over ride such durability

[SageoftheSixPaths]

-_- Powerscaling, but you dont accept that
And you used the words immune to death....
I used them in a PM to explain there awesomeness. But Elder Toguro is more or less a god level regenerator. He can also take over people's bodies if he gets inside them. If we use his final form he can also read minds, meaning he can react before anyone gets the chance to touch him. He can also consume people in order to gain their powers. That means he could consume the Sauce (eating sauce, lol) and gain his MS. Then he casually kills Kakashi and takes his MS, thus making EMS. Then he can control the Kyuubi. So yeah, now that it comes down to it, Toguros win.

[321zigzag1]

Sajin kommamura and zaraki kempachi

aizen and yama both seem to wield offensive power good enough to over ride such durability

Oh yes them too but up to like cityblock I can see.

Oh yes Aizen in durability. Yama well yes.

Although I was thinking of more insane durable bleach characters thats why I mentioned H2 Ichigo.

[Teddie]

Sajin kommamura and zaraki kempachi

aizen and yama both seem to wield offensive power good enough to over ride such durability

LMAO AT KOMOMURA DURABILITY
IF HIS SWORD GETS CUT HE GETS CUT
ITS THE MOST ANTIHAX THING EVER. legit.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

LMAO AT KOMOMURA DURABILITY
IF HIS SWORD GETS CUT HE GETS CUT
ITS THE MOST ANTIHAX THING EVER. legit.

so basically..you don't watch or read whats happening then

because...if you actually see the level of power it takes to injure his sword

never mind that he shakes it off gets back up and kills you..unless your hacking his arms off

don't troll

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Kenpachi has city block from what I can tell.
Yamamoto has never been hit, so we don't know.
H2 tanked a multi city block buster with one hand, so he easily has hax durability.
Komo has semi decent tanking power. He took a kido #90 directly and was still standing, albeit not in prime fighting condition. I'd pin him as multi building durability, or around there.
We don't even know if Aizen has ever been hit, so we can't tell. Odds are that what we've been seing in the manga has been his Shikai all along, and he hasn't been touched. Therefore, Aizen's durability is extremely inconclusive.

[Teddie]

so basically..you don't watch or read whats happening then

because...if you actually see the level of power it takes to injure his sword

never mind that he shakes it off gets back up and kills you..unless your hacking his arms off

don't troll

I'm not trolling,
I'm just saying, sure he stuffed a cero back in a fraccion's mouth, but when it came to crunch time he was flattened by a captain in no time flat.
I'm not ositive to what context this is in, but if we're just listing off durabilities, he's significantly lower than many many bleachers.

[Teddie]

Kenpachi has city block from what I can tell.
Yamamoto has never been hit, so we don't know.
H2 tanked a multi city block buster with one hand, so he easily has hax durability.
Komo has semi decent tanking power. He took a kido #90 directly and was still standing, albeit not in prime fighting condition. I'd pin him as multi building durability, or around there.
We don't even know if Aizen has ever been hit, so we can't tell. Odds are that what we've been seing in the manga has been his Shikai all along, and he hasn't been touched. Therefore, Aizen's durability is extremely inconclusive.

Pretty sure he collapsed after the 90, which isnt even a multi building.
All that is is getting omnidirectionally slashed at inside a box.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I'm not trolling,
I'm just saying, sure he stuffed a cero back in a fraccion's mouth, but when it came to crunch time he was flattened by a captain in no time flat.
I'm not ositive to what context this is in, but if we're just listing off durabilities, he's significantly lower than many many bleachers.

he also knocked a guy threw a few dozen buildings

ate a powerful attack that split his chest open and was still strong enough to stand and fight

and regarding the black coffin

he walked it off with no medical attention..what so ever..flat out refusing any from squad 4

and recovered on his own

that is..impressve as all heck..especially considering aizens power

[Teddie]

he also knocked a guy threw a few dozen buildings

ate a powerful attack that split his chest open and was still strong enough to stand and fight

and regarding the black coffin

he walked it off with no medical attention..what so ever..flat out refusing any from squad 4

and recovered on his own

that is..impressve as all heck..especially considering aizens power

Knocking a guy through buildings is not durability
Would have been killed seconds after having his bankai forcibly sealed by an overwhelming blow the chest.

And regarding the black coffin, he collapsed, and got better over time, not instantly. In an actual fight, directly after black coffin he wouldve been facestabbed.

[Pennywise]

I'm not trolling,
I'm just saying, sure he stuffed a cero back in a fraccion's mouth, but when it came to crunch time he was flattened by a captain in no time flat.
I'm not ositive to what context this is in, but if we're just listing off durabilities, he's significantly lower than many many bleachers.

Are you freaking telling me that Kommamura is crap because he got beat up by Tousen and freaking Aizen of all people? The latter who was owning everybody left and right to boot?

[Abigail]

Why the hell are you debating Bleach characters?

[SageoftheSixPaths]

Why the hell are you debating Bleach characters?
Because we live in a massively ADD society.