Neji vs. Machoke/Machamp

[ECW Original]

Who wins?
anime/manga/game
Pokedex info allowed

[otacon]

gentle fist=dead fighting pokemon

[Pennywise]

The only way either Pokemon is going to survive here is if we allow Pokedex fluff...They're not Legendaries and don't have any feats.

[321zigzag1]

If you are referring to the pokedex, Machamp busting mountains or something?

I know anime versions get raped.

[Pennywise]

If you are referring to the pokedex, Machamp busting mountains or something?

I know anime versions get raped.

Yeah that's what Machamp's entry in the Pokedex says about him, but as it's little more than colorful hyperbole, ECW needs to specify if it's allowed. Otherwise Machoke and Machamp are going down hard.

[321zigzag1]

Yeah that's what Machamp's entry in the Pokedex says about him, but as it's little more than colorful hyperbole, ECW needs to specify if it's allowed. Otherwise Machoke and Machamp are going down hard.

Indeed although in my opinion Pokedex descriptions can only apply to the Game versions. Anime clearly contradicts it and well for the manga although that is more debatable they don't exactly go along with the game either.

Game >>> Manga >>>>>>>>>>> Anime? In pokemon power?

Or is it Manga >>> Game >>>>>>>>>>> Anime?

The is forums generally rarely specifies anything. Just simple.

[zebrakiller]

can't they learn counter? in which case its rotation vs. counter...

[Pennywise]

Indeed although in my opinion Pokedex descriptions can only apply to the Game versions. Anime clearly contradicts it and well for the manga although that is more debatable they don't exactly go along with the game either.

Game >>> Manga >>>>>>>>>>> Anime? In pokemon power?

Or is it Manga >>> Game >>>>>>>>>>> Anime?

The is forums generally rarely specifies anything. Just simple.

Honestly It's hard to say with the games the ones with shown feats are basically just the Legendaries (Palkia, Dialga and Giratina for the most part). With the anime, they get alot more feats, but most of the feats tend to go to Pikachu or again the Legendaries. Machoke and Machamp haven't made very many apperances in the anime and don't have any feats to my knowledge.

I can't speak for the manga as I haven't read it.

Hmm looks like we can use Pokedex fluff afterall. Meaning now that Machoke and Machamp have the advantage in Power but Neji more than likely has the advantage in Speed.

For Machoke you get things according to the Pokedex like being able to lift a dumptruck with one hand, being as hard as steel and having to wear a belt to regulate it's strength.

For Machamp we get things like it's punches are powerful enough to send people over the horizon, being able to move mountains with one arm, mastered every form of martial arts, being able to launch 1000 punches in two seconds, and can knock a speeding train flying with one punch.

Like I said Fluff is basically just a colorful hyperboles when it comes down to it. but with it allowed Machamp could easily solo here, unless Neji can get some strikes in fast enough.

[321zigzag1]

Honestly It's hard to say with the games the ones with shown feats are basically just the Legendaries (Palkia, Dialga and Giratina for the most part). With the anime, they get alot more feats, but most of the feats tend to go to Pikachu or again the Legendaries. Machoke and Machamp haven't made very many apperances in the anime and don't have any feats to my knowledge..

I have seen Machoke and Machamp in action. Doesn't measure to the pokedex thing at all. Well maybe except for Machoke but not machamp.

I can't speak for the manga as I haven't read it.

I have read here and there. Although I have not read on those two.

Hmm looks like we can use Pokedex fluff afterall. Meaning now that Machoke and Machamp have the advantage in Power but Neji more than likely has the advantage in Speed.

Yes speed advantage, especially Neji has great action.

For Machoke you get things according to the Pokedex like being able to lift a dumptruck with one hand, being as hard as steel and having to wear a belt to regulate it's strength.

This one is believable.

For Machamp we get things like it's punches are powerful enough to send people over the horizon, being able to move mountains with one arm, mastered every form of martial arts, being able to launch 1000 punches in two seconds, and can knock a speeding train flying with one punch.

Hmmm.

Like I said Fluff is basically just a colorful hyperboles when it comes down to it. but with it allowed Machamp could easily solo here, unless Neji can get some strikes in fast enough.

Machoke loses, Machamp by pokedex wins.

Anime versions get raped.

[SageoftheSixPaths]

By anime standards, both are blitzed and raped immediately. By Pokedex standards, one of them uses something like Cross Chop or Rock Slide while the other uses Earthquake. Rotation can't stop Earthquake, and it's one of the most powerful moves in the game. It should easily take out Neji.

End result for game: One goes down with a 64 Palms or something, the other takes out Neji with Earthquake.

[lolitaninja]

Neji would probably have the advantage over Machoke/Machamp, being a psychic-type ninja!

[321zigzag1]

Neji would probably have the advantage over Machoke/Machamp, being a psychic-type ninja!

Do you mean fighting type?

[Raiden]

Machamp Would win Easily Thanks to Ability No Guard (never Misses, and Neji Never Misses too since No Guard allows both User and Foe the same Ability), and with his Best attack, DynamicPunch, witch well always confuse the target if it makes contact (thanks to No Guard it well) and as for "64 Palms" won't work well on the grounds that Machamp and Machoke are too tall and Clearly Machamp has more "Chakura" Points thinks to his Added Arms, 128 Palms would do it tho, 2 on 1 Neji might get careless on both of them and they both give him a DynamicPunch (There Ability causes them to never mess) but yeah Neji still has a chance, but it would be really hard 2 on 1
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[Pennywise]

Neji would probably have the advantage over Machoke/Machamp, being a psychic-type ninja!

Neji would be fighting type, he has no psychic attacks to his name thus makeing the same type as Machoke and Machamp are...

[lolitaninja]

Do you mean fighting type?

Neji would be fighting type, he has no psychic attacks to his name thus makeing the same type as Machoke and Machamp are...

Oh, boy, you both misunderstood me. What I meant was that if Neji were a Pokemon, I could see him being a psychic type because of the Byakugan. He basically uses his mind (and eyes) to do things that anyone else (or anyone outside his clan) wouldn't be able to do. If anyone would be a fighting type, it'd be Rock Lee!

[Pennywise]

Oh, boy, you both misunderstood me. What I meant was that if Neji were a Pokemon, I could see him being a psychic type because of the Byakugan. He basically uses his mind (and eyes) to do things that anyone else (or anyone outside his clan) wouldn't be able to do. If anyone would be a fighting type, it'd be Rock Lee!

Sharingan Users would be equivilant of Psycic types in the Narutoverse...either that or Dark Types...The Byakugan is nowhere close to be counted as psychic type, it just allows you to see the opponents chakra and vital points nothing more.

[ECW Original]

I thought the Failchihas would be fire types.

[Pennywise]

I thought the Failchihas would be fire types.

Nah they seem to me to come off more as Dark of Psyhic types to me, considering the Sharingan and all.

[Raiden]

they would be Dark/Fire everybody