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trofet
01-30-2010, 05:19 AM
Location: The Hidden Rain Village.

Everyone is at full power.

darkjam
01-30-2010, 05:21 AM
Do the good guys (not pain) know pains abilites?

trofet
01-30-2010, 05:22 AM
No they don't know anything about him.

darkjam
01-30-2010, 05:28 AM
Well then. Hmmmm. This is pretty tricky. They would have to battle them, without knowing anything. Although figuring out their techniques would b fairly easy. Hmmmm. Kakashi managed 2 defeat 1 of them by himself, and i reckon Naruto sage mode could do a hell of a lot. I reckon once they manage to kill the one who revives them they should b able to win. Gaara could break their link vision with some massive sand techniques and then they could attack. I think that the 6 paths of pain would lose, only becoz of Naruto sage mode. But im not really sure coz Pain is awesome...

trofet
01-30-2010, 05:32 AM
Yea true,, + they have 2 medics, sakura and tsunade. But Pein is to awesome to lose this fight.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-30-2010, 07:56 AM
Chibaku Tensei. GG.

C4 Karura
01-30-2010, 08:43 AM
Wow... This is complicated...

If Kakashi is now fast enough with Kamui to stop a flying nail in the one second between when Deva Path lets it go and when it hits him, I think he could probably hit one of the Pains with it, provided they were seperated and distracted by someone else.

Naruto's Frog Kata and Rasenshuriken could probably finish off one or two more, if he caught them by suprise with thier larger-than-it-appears range.

Sakura, unfortunately, doesn't have the speed feats to do much in this fight. She could still handle healing, though.

Gaara's sand might be as fast as the Pains, and if it is, he could probably get at least a few of them. I'm not sure if he would be able to make sand out of the metal buildings, but if he can, he has an even better chance of beating them.





None of Animal Path's summons seem like they would be fast enough to hurt even Sakura.

Preta Path can only absorb jutsu, it has no offensive techniques, and it's weak against physical attacks. Even if they don't know that, they'll probably figure it out quickly, and then Sakura could probably beat it, if it was distracted.

Human Path rips out souls to get information from them. Gaara, with distance, could stomp this.

Asura Path could also be defeated by Gaara, with distance.

If Konohamaru has the speed feats to beat Naraka Path, Sakura could stomp this.

Gaara could easily stomp Deva Path during the Five-Second Interval.




I have to say that Konoha wins this.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-30-2010, 08:49 AM
Wow... This is complicated...

If Kakashi is now fast enough with Kamui to stop a flying nail in the one second between when Deva Path lets it go and when it hits him, I think he could probably hit one of the Pains with it, provided they were seperated and distracted by someone else.

Naruto's Frog Kata and Rasenshuriken could probably finish off one or two more, if he caught them by suprise with thier larger-than-it-appears range.

Sakura, unfortunately, doesn't have the speed feats to do much in this fight. She could still handle healing, though.

Gaara's sand might be as fast as the Pains, and if it is, he could probably get at least a few of them. I'm not sure if he would be able to make sand out of the metal buildings, but if he can, he has an even better chance of beating them.





None of Animal Path's summons seem like they would be fast enough to hurt even Sakura.

Preta Path can only absorb jutsu, it has no offensive techniques, and it's weak against physical attacks. Even if they don't know that, they'll probably figure it out quickly, and then Sakura could probably beat it, if it was distracted.

Human Path rips out souls to get information from them. Gaara, with distance, could stomp this.

Asura Path could also be defeated by Gaara, with distance.

If Konohamaru has the speed feats to beat Naraka Path, Sakura could stomp this.

Gaara could easily stomp Deva Path during the Five-Second Interval.




I have to say that Konoha wins this.
Chibaku Tensei. GG.

Sasuke726
01-30-2010, 09:05 AM
Sakura wuld be defeated in the first two minutes. And since pain knows the landscape he culd defeat Tsunade, Kakashi, Naruto, and Gaara. Gaara wuld be easy to beat because water effects his sand and Pain can make it rain in the Land of Rain. Kakashi, Naruto, and Tsunade may not be able to handle the Pains unless they can take out the reviving Pain. Naruto (SM), Tsunade (MR), and Kakashi (MS). wuld be a good battle for the Pains but over time Pain wuld defeat Kakashi and Tsunade leaving only Naruto. However Naruto would lose because he probably wouldnt be able to surprise the Pains with his attacks. If NAruto did win it would be because of nine-tails.

321zigzag1
01-30-2010, 09:52 AM
IF you want to lose given team Kakashi full knowledge and no knowledge for the Pains and replace two of the members with Sasuke and Gai.

Full knowledge for Team Kakashi is especially important.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-30-2010, 09:56 AM
IF you want to lose given team Kakashi full knowledge and no knowledge for the Pains and replace two of the members with Sasuke and Gai.

Full knowledge for Team Kakashi is especially important.
^ This. With full knowledge, Team Kakashi could probably win. Taking out Tsunade and Sakura to add the Sauce and Guy also gives them much better odds.

321zigzag1
01-30-2010, 10:07 AM
^ This. With full knowledge, Team Kakashi could probably win. Taking out Tsunade and Sakura to add the Sauce and Guy also gives them much better odds.

In that case, Kakashi goes Kamui, Gai, Hachimon gate, Sasuke massive shunshin mode and also kirin prep. Gaara sand thing. Naruto prepares SM because of full knowledge.

Unless you have full knowledge on Pain you can't really win in general. Even with full knowledge its not always guaranteed.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-30-2010, 10:22 AM
In that case, Kakashi goes Kamui, Gai, Hachimon gate, Sasuke massive shunshin mode and also kirin prep. Gaara sand thing. Naruto prepares SM because of full knowledge.

Unless you have full knowledge on Pain you can't really win in general. Even with full knowledge its not always guaranteed.
Very true. Knowledge is power, especially in this case.

Fan of Minato
01-30-2010, 10:24 AM
"Kakashi,Naruto,Tsunade,Sakura" with no knowledge these guys were pretty much stomped. And Pain beat Naruto at probably half-power. So Gaara's the only new one in this and Gaara can be defeated by Shinra Tensei if not there's always Chibaku Tensei.

321zigzag1
01-30-2010, 10:31 AM
However I will say this it won't be easy thought for Pain but considering Naruto doesn't start in SM and Kakashi doesn't Kamui automatically and the fact Sakura is almost useless here and Tsunade somewhat. Gaara well it depends what he does. Pain has the advantage as usual. They are too destructive, ranged, too big, and shared vision countering and no knowledge.

"Kakashi,Naruto,Tsunade,Sakura" with no knowledge these guys were pretty much stomped. And Pain beat Naruto at probably half-power. So Gaara's the only new one in this and Gaara can be defeated by Shinra Tensei if not there's always Chibaku Tensei.

Your lack xDDD puts me to shame.
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C4 Karura
01-30-2010, 10:43 AM
Chibaku Tensei. GG.
Hmm... Good point. But it seems like Nagato only uses that if he thinks he has to use it to defeat his opponent. If Gaara can get Deva Pain before Nagato realizes it, the problem's solved.

trofet
01-30-2010, 12:05 PM
Pein would win this just because it's in the hidden rain village ;)

Slack 40
01-30-2010, 12:14 PM
If garra can get deva and naraka first then they'll win.

scenario:
The others distract deva untill gaara uses sand to take deva path. Then tsunade or one of the others can stomp naraka before he gets a chance to heal deva. Then naruto can summon toads to fight animal paths summons and tsunade can summon katsuya to help with chakra for the others and naruto can go into sage mode with some prep and kakashi can use MS gaara will eventually have trouble because of wet sand and tsunade can use her strength on preta path. Kakashi can use MS on asura paths wepons and eventually kamui him away and human and animal paths will soon be defeated. Sakura wont due much but heal

Outer Path
01-30-2010, 07:29 PM
Team Kakashi with knowledge runs the hell away.

That's what happens.

trofet
01-31-2010, 08:14 AM
Team Kakashi with knowledge runs the hell away.

That's what happens.

what ??

Lady Tsunade
01-31-2010, 10:41 AM
I need more information. Does the right side have knowledge,are they bloodlusted?
If they have knowledge,the right side should comfortablt take this. And with Prep,they stomp. Since Naruto alone with Prep>Pein. With knowledge they'll know to attack Deva before he uses Shinra Tensei. Naruto should be able to take several Paths himself. Asura,Animal,Human and with Gaaras help can possibly take Deva.
Tsunade can take Naraka and Preta by herself probably. Kakashi can assist Tsunade should she need it .While Sakura can heal her comrades should they be injured. That is,if they have knowledge.

SageoftheSixPaths
01-31-2010, 04:25 PM
Hmm... Good point. But it seems like Nagato only uses that if he thinks he has to use it to defeat his opponent. If Gaara can get Deva Pain before Nagato realizes it, the problem's solved.
Nah. Pain just uses CT without a second thought. I'm pretty sure the default for the Battlegrounds is bloodlusted, so he just goes all out right away. Konoha shouldn't have even a little chance.
Pein would win this just because it's in the hidden rain village ;)
That has nothing to do with it.
Team Kakashi with knowledge runs the hell away.

That's what happens.
Lulz. True.
I need more information. Does the right side have knowledge,are they bloodlusted?
If they have knowledge,the right side should comfortablt take this. And with Prep,they stomp. Since Naruto alone with Prep>Pein. With knowledge they'll know to attack Deva before he uses Shinra Tensei. Naruto should be able to take several Paths himself. Asura,Animal,Human and with Gaaras help can possibly take Deva.
Tsunade can take Naraka and Preta by herself probably. Kakashi can assist Tsunade should she need it .While Sakura can heal her comrades should they be injured. That is,if they have knowledge.
They have no prior knowledge, since the OP said nothing about it. Also, no prep unless otherwise specified.

Basically, with knowledge and prep, Team 2 wins. Otherwise, they get trolled by Chou Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei.

The Great Uzimaki
01-31-2010, 06:38 PM
Hmmmm Depends Probaly kakashi group but in the manga naruto kills all of the pains in sage mode with 8 tails.... Not completly sure but i'm sure i heard it.

trofet
02-04-2010, 10:03 AM
Nah. Pain just uses CT without a second thought. I'm pretty sure the default for the Battlegrounds is bloodlusted, so he just goes all out right away. Konoha shouldn't have even a little chance.

That has nothing to do with it.

Lulz. True.

They have no prior knowledge, since the OP said nothing about it. Also, no prep unless otherwise specified.

Basically, with knowledge and prep, Team 2 wins. Otherwise, they get trolled by Chou Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei.
nooooooooooooooo

prasanth
03-02-2010, 10:17 AM
first the deva pain can use bansho tenin and pull naruto and he can stick the asura pain infront with a knife poking out of him like he did to kakashi.

now that naruto is dead the 6 pains can surround the 4 people left and the soul ripping pain and the hell realm can team up on sakura and she will get caught by one of them and it only takes a split second to take control of her.

tsunade, gaara and kakashi will be putting up a fight while the other 2 had been killed and now its a 6 on 3 situation.

the deva and asura team up against kakashi as before and will have the same results as he dies and takes asura with him.

the animal could use all the summons and while tsunade is preoccupied fighting them the human path could come and rip her soul out.

for gaara the naraka path and preta could go together however im sure that gaara will be able to take out both of them.

so as gaara is the only one standing there are 3 paths left to destroy. the deva, animal and human. deva could shinra tensai gaara and blow him into the ground however gaara will surely be able to destroy all the summos with his sand and then easily defeat the animal path. deva can do a powerful shinra tensai and almost kill gaara and then the human path can just rip his soul out.

therefore pain wins with difficulty and 2 bodies remaining.

Lady Tsunade
03-02-2010, 11:55 AM
No knowledge on the 5 second interval between shinra tensei attacks means no win
Chibaku Tensei>All of them Im afraid

SuishiUchiha
03-02-2010, 08:45 PM
yea the fact is without prep and knowledge konoha gets killed

the only one who can really do this is naruto in SM but that requires prep and only lasts for 5 minutes... so he prolly takes out 2 or3 but doesnt know who to target so they all get healed and then they take it up the butt

prasanth
04-09-2010, 08:49 AM
yea the fact is without prep and knowledge konoha gets killed

the only one who can really do this is naruto in SM but that requires prep and only lasts for 5 minutes... so he prolly takes out 2 or3 but doesnt know who to target so they all get healed and then they take it up the butt


not even naruto in SM can do it, it was a "plot no jutsu"

Phoenix Wright
04-09-2010, 10:20 AM
Chibaku Tensei. GG.
You stole my post. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/sun.png

SageoftheSixPaths
04-09-2010, 10:24 AM
You stole my post. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/sun.png
You're welcome.

BoxHead
06-06-2010, 12:27 PM
Well konoha could win if they knew the secret. "Kowing is half the battle. GI JOE! GO JOE!" lol

Akatsuki X
06-06-2010, 01:27 PM
I can't believe all of you are posting valid drawn out arguments,

as Sage said a billion times already

CT GG!!!!!

Teddie
06-06-2010, 05:16 PM
As stated before, if its just the teams as they are now with no prerequisites, Chou Shinra or Chibaku Tensei = GG

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 07:27 PM
At this point, Kakashi could probably Kamui Deva, eliminating all danger. If Kakashi doesn't immediately go for Deva, however, then it's all over.

However, supposing Deva is taken out, Naruto's teammates could easily give him time to prepare prep for Sage Mode. Kakashi should be able to at least use Kamui on Animal or Asura Path. Once Naruto gets into Sage Mode he should be able to take out all the other paths.

It could go either way depending on Kakashi's choice, if Kakashi takes out Deva first then right side wins, but if not then they get Chibaku Tensei'd.

e710
06-06-2010, 07:40 PM
DEVA PAIN: CHOU SHIRA TENSAI
Right team: SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TTTTTTTTTTTTTT TT

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 07:47 PM
DEVA PAIN: CHOU SHIRA TENSAI
Right team: SH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TTTTTTTTTTTTTT TT

If Deva tried to do that he would have to shut all the other paths down and him prepping the technique would be extremely conspicuous.

This provides ample time for Kakashi to Kamui him.

tobi-kun
06-06-2010, 07:49 PM
narutos group duh for one thing naruto sm already beat all six and if he needs time to prep kakashi and the rest could cover him or he could just go to mykubu

Kuromaki
06-06-2010, 07:55 PM
narutos group duh for one thing naruto sm already beat all six and if he needs time to prep kakashi and the rest could cover him or he could just go to mykubu
Naruto won due to plot and the fact that Pain was weakened and wasn't trying to kill him. Chibaku Tensei should be able to take out Naruto's team if Kakashi doesn't use Kamui on Deva path first. The only way I see Naruto's team winning is if Deva gets Kamui'd before it's too late.

What's a mykubu?

J-Sun Tasogare
06-06-2010, 07:56 PM
CT GG xD

J-Sun Tasogare
06-06-2010, 07:57 PM
Naruto won due to plot and the fact that Pain was weakened and wasn't trying to kill him. Chibaku Tensei should be able to take out Naruto's team if Kakashi doesn't use Kamui on Deva path first. The only way I see Naruto's team winning is if Deva gets Kamui'd before it's too late.

What's a mykubu?
Human moves infront of the Deva or Deva gets rezzed.

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 07:58 PM
Human moves infront of the Deva or Deva gets rezzed.

There is no way Pain could possibly know about Kamui without prep, let alone get a path to take the fall for Deva before it's used.

J-Sun Tasogare
06-06-2010, 08:08 PM
There is no way Pain could possibly know about Kamui without prep, let alone get a path to take the fall for Deva before it's used.
True :P but doesn't Deva usually have paths infront of him in his formation? And also how would Kakashi know which one to kill without any knowledge?

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 08:16 PM
True :P but doesn't Deva usually have paths infront of him in his formation? And also how would Kakashi know which one to kill without any knowledge?

Well if the paths stood still for long enough then all the more reason why Kakashi could simply move and Kamui them =P

That's why I said it all comes down to whether Kakashi kills Deva first or not. It's a bit of a coin toss.

e710
06-06-2010, 08:24 PM
If Deva tried to do that he would have to shut all the other paths down and him prepping the technique would be extremely conspicuous.

This provides ample time for Kakashi to Kamui him.

He sends them in and he falls back than he uses CST.

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 08:29 PM
He sends them in and he falls back than he uses CST.

Considering Kakashi was able to Kamui two Susanoo arrows in seconds and still not exhaust himself I doubt that would possibly work.

e710
06-06-2010, 08:37 PM
Considering Kakashi was able to Kamui two Susanoo arrows in seconds and still not exhaust himself I doubt that would possibly work.

But with no knowledge he might not get Deva and with knowledge he still might not get deva because he wouldn't be infront of him like a sitting duck. Lets say you do repeats of this match with the right team not having knowledge then Pain would win most of them. But if they have knowledge you should expect Kakashi to hit the right target most of the time if we do a couple of matches. Also if we had a starting postion it would help determine who wins.

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 09:33 PM
But with no knowledge he might not get Deva and with knowledge he still might not get deva because he wouldn't be infront of him like a sitting duck. Lets say you do repeats of this match with the right team not having knowledge then Pain would win most of them. But if they have knowledge you should expect Kakashi to hit the right target most of the time if we do a couple of matches. Also if we had a starting postion it would help determine who wins.

If he doesn't get Deva he loses.

However, if he actually aims for Deva then Deva is gonna get grilled, Deva is a sitting duck when using CT and Deva requires way too much prep to use CST against a team of fighters like Kakashi and Naruto.

There is very little Deva can do to stop Kakashi from Kamui'ing him, should Kakashi actually aim for him. Actually not very little, more like nothing. It's difficult to counter something that you not only have trouble reacting to, but don't know about in the first place.

Starting range helps, long range Pain takes this pretty easily but if it's closer then right side has a chance.

Akainu
06-06-2010, 10:09 PM
Why did you add Suckura and Sucknade? They die in seconds.

Anyway SM Naruto, Kamui Kakashi and Sabaku No Gaara rapes, Tendou never starts with Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei, he gets Sabaku Kuro'd, Kamui'd or FRS'd.

Miles Edgeworth
06-06-2010, 10:14 PM
Why did you add Suckura and Sucknade? They die in seconds.

Anyway SM Naruto, Kamui Kakashi and Sabaku No Gaara rapes, Tendou never starts with Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei, he gets Sabaku Kuro'd, Kamui'd or FRS'd.

Well with bloodlust Pain could potentially go with CST or CT.

Without bloodlust, I don't think Kakashi would start off with Kamui either though, he only really uses it when he has to due to the fact it lowers his stamina immensely compared to his other attacks.

Akainu
06-06-2010, 10:23 PM
CST and CT requires a bit of time, they can FRS or Kamui them during that time.

HiddenRoar
06-07-2010, 01:01 AM
Animal path can simply resummon a Kamui'ed Pain and Naraka can repair any damages suffered from Kamui.

Akainu
06-07-2010, 01:32 AM
Animal path can simply resummon a Kamui'ed Pain and Naraka can repair any damages suffered from Kamui.

Chikushodo gets FRS'd or crushed by Sabaku Kyuu. Same with Jigokudo.

J-Sun Tasogare
06-07-2010, 06:30 AM
You stole my post. http://s236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/NF%20smilies/sun.png

Well if the paths stood still for long enough then all the more reason why Kakashi could simply move and Kamui them =P

That's why I said it all comes down to whether Kakashi kills Deva first or not. It's a bit of a coin toss.
You stole my avatar :mad:.

I don't seem them doing that, besides usually all of them attack at once while Narak and Preta go when needed. Asura>>Tsunade Sakura and Gaara. All the rest>>>>Kakashi Naruto

Akatsuki Tsunade
06-07-2010, 06:53 AM
No knowledge on the 5 second interval between shinra tensei attacks means no win
Chibaku Tensei>All of them Im afraid

Hey lets not forget that if he does us tensei Tsuande can protect all of them like she all ready showed she is able to do in the animie.. And this time its not the whole village just a few people...

So again Tensei doent equal automatic loss in this case....

Akainu
06-07-2010, 07:01 AM
You stole my avatar :mad:.

I don't seem them doing that, besides usually all of them attack at once while Narak and Preta go when needed. Asura>>Tsunade Sakura and Gaara. All the rest>>>>Kakashi Naruto

Stop this with your Pein wanking.

I agree with Shurado > Sucknade and Suckura but he gets raped by wither Sabaku Kuro, Sabaku Taiso or Sabaku Kyuu.

Dude don't you get it? Kakashi Kamui Tendou and Chikushodo instantly before they can do anything, and the rest gets a FRS in their ass.

Rasen_Chidori
06-07-2010, 07:32 AM
This is tough, as has been said, with no knowledge it is hard to see Pain losing.
It depends on who Pain goes after first, and which paths he uses against who. And if Naruto can get time to go sage. If he can go sage then their chances get alot better. Kakashi could Kamui one path straight away, depending on what path this gets will decide alot, if it is Deva, then Konoha wins, if not then it is hard to see them beating Pain. Gaara could take Naraka, Animal, Human paths (One maybe two, not all three).

Basicly it all depends on if the Deva path is taken out quickly then the Naraka, otherwise it is hard to see Pain losing.

Here is the win scenario-
Kakashi Kamui's Deva and Sakura and Tsunade protect Naruto til he goes sage, then Sakura and Tsunade are for distraction and healing. Naruto takes out Naraka and a couple others, and Gaara uses his sand to keep the others occupied until Kakashi or Naruto can take them out.

Here is the losing scenario-
Kakashi kamuis a path (Not Deva) and Deva CT or UST, making it impossible for Naruto to have enough time to go sage. In this case, I can't see them winning.

J-Sun Tasogare
06-07-2010, 08:36 AM
Stop this with your Pein wanking.

I agree with Shurado > Sucknade and Suckura but he gets raped by wither Sabaku Kuro, Sabaku Taiso or Sabaku Kyuu.

Dude don't you get it? Kakashi Kamui Tendou and Chikushodo instantly before they can do anything, and the rest gets a FRS in their ass.

@Japaneese speaking dude: Naruto isn't going to have time to go into SM and the only other person that does any damage is Kakashi. Gaara can get destroyed by Asura unless Gaara goes up, if that happens Missle spam wears him down until he can get a head laser off. Animal>>Kakashi . Deva and the rest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto.

Akainu
06-07-2010, 09:10 AM
@Japaneese speaking dude: Naruto isn't going to have time to go into SM

I'm just going by their manga anmes?... My username is Akainu, it isn't long or hard to remember... Since you read OP you probably know that hes the most badass OP character.

Anyway on topic.

He doesn't need to go SM to use FRS.

and the only other person that does any damage is Kakashi.

FRS.

Gaara can get destroyed by Asura unless Gaara goes up, if that happens Missle spam wears him down until he can get a head laser off.

Proof he can get past his Sand Shield, it blocked Raikage's Guilotine Drop, what makes you think Shurado can do any better? He gets Sabaku Kyuu'd.

Animal>>Kakashi . Deva and the rest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto.

Lol no, I want proof that Tendou and Chikushodo can dodge Kamui.

Nyruss
06-07-2010, 11:20 AM
The most badass One Piece character is Ivankov. It takes a real man to fight in a war, and kick liberal amounts of ass, while wearing drag.

Akainu
06-07-2010, 11:32 AM
Being an Okama takes away your badassness, like Sanji.