Naruto vs Garra

[Ur Mom]

Okay, this is Naruto vs Garra, AGAIN....with one catch: NO SAGE MODE (to make it fair)

[ECW Original]

Naruto summons Bunta.Sandman gets squashed.

[otacon]

I already made a thread like this, and I argued that even with Sage Mode Gaara could still win. hwever, without Sage Mode, Gaara definately wins (inthe desert), and still wins normallly, as boss summons can be countered with normal sand created from the gorund (sand Tsunami and quicksand), Naruto would eventually be caught (even with shadow clone spam) by supersonic sand (read the other thread; it blocked Amerterasu and intercepted E's running kick, which I proved was at full speed due to extra momentum moving forward) would constricked and sand coffin Naruto. Frog Song is deadly, but Gaara could pressure (not truly blitz though) Naruto with his superior sand speed before he could even summon, and if he does summon, ground created sand could counter the boss summons, and his chakra infused sand could pursue both Naruto and Ma and Pa toads; I'd like to see them do frog song while running from that, which I seriously dought they could manage (they would eventually be kiled be either chakra infused sand or sand Tsunami). and even if they were lucky enough to do Frog Song, Gaara could hide inside his floating sand sphere, which could possibly (and would accordingto physics) block out most, if not all of the sound. You should not have banned Sage Mode, as that would have made it really interesting

[shikimaru nara]

naruto stomps garra with bunta. garra gets crushed

[Nyruss]

Gaara crushes what he thinks is Naruto, only to discover it's just a shadow clone and the real Naruto proceeds to shove a Futon Rasengan up Gaara's ass.

by supersonic sand Gaara's sand is not supersonic.

it blocked Amerterasu Not because of speed.


and intercepted E's running kick, which I proved was at full speed due to extra momentum moving forward


No time frame, it intercepted a drop after jumping into the air, not any sort of momentum enhancing kick.

[otacon]

Gaara crushes what he thinks is Naruto, only to discover it's just a shadow clone and the real Naruto proceeds to shove a Futon Rasengan up Gaara's ass.

Gaara's sand is not supersonic.

Not because of speed.



No time frame, it intercepted a drop after jumping into the air, not any sort of momentum enhancing kick.

Sasuke even stated that he NEEDED to use Enton to block Gaara's sand, otherwise it would have caught him. And dont say that Sasuke was not at full speed, as he still had the energy to use Susan'o after, and run off in pursuit of Danzou.

please read the other thread. Accelerating to maximum speed is instantaneous, especially when a powerful thrust forward is taken (which is what propeled E's kick). why do you think sprinters do it? so yes, E was at full speed. either way, you cannot give a true conuter arguement to truly proove that E was not at full speed. A feat is a feat. Gaara's sand is supersonic

[Nyruss]

Sasuke even stated that he NEEDED to use Enton to block Gaara's sand, otherwise it would have caught him.

I don't remember this, but it's irrelevant since character statements mean all of jack squat.

And dont say that Sasuke was not at full speed, as he still had the energy to use Susan'o after, and run off in pursuit of Danzou.


You missed the part where it nearly killed him and he would have died if Zetsu hadn't bailed him out. Also, Plot no Jutsu.

please read the other thread. I did. It was bullcrap then and it's bullcrap now. I presented arguments against your bullcrap and you refused to debate because you were butthurt and had no counter. It is evident that this has not changed.

Accelerating to maximum speed is instantaneous, especially when a powerful thrust forward is taken (which is what propeled E's kick).
He jumped into the air. Jumping into the air does not a speed increase make.

why do you think sprinters do it? Sprinters don't jump into the air.

you cannot give a true conuter arguement to truly proove that E was not at full speed.

I don't need to because you've got no argument to prove he was.

Gaara's sand is supersonic


No it's not.

[Vivi]

Naruto not only has Gamabunta.
Fukasaku summoned Naruto Clones.
What do you need to summon anything?
A Contract.
So safe to say he has Fukasaku as well.
Most likely Gamahiro and Gamaken as well.

Either way Gamabunta is more than enough.

Gamabunta easily outspeeds Gaara.Hence how he leaped out the Crevice.
Also Gamabunta has Water Release: Gunshot.Meaning Gaara's sand will turn Muddy and falling into itself.

And lol at Gaara's sand killing a 100m Big Gamabunta.

[otacon]

I don't remember this, but it's irrelevant since character statements mean all of jack squat.

I did. It was bullcrap then and it's bullcrap now. I presented arguments against your bullcrap and you refused to debate because you had no counter.


He jumped into the air. Jumping into the air does not a speed increase make.

Sprinters don't jump into the air.



I don't need to because you've got no argument to prove he was.



No it's not.


not bullcrap. feats. I countered everything numorous times. you were simply repeating things that everybody else said. you are hardly worth my time

do you know anything about martial arts? he thrusted himself forward into the air, which propeled him to his maximum speed forward, allowing him to axe kick Sasuke with his leg on the descent of this massive and powerful stride. Its called a foward kick from and explosive launch (which propelled E to full speed)

sprinters do explode forward, which does lift them off of the ground allitle in the process due to the force of powerfully moving forward and upward from a low base. E is much faster than a normal sprinter, hence he would explode in a more forward and more upward diretion. in other words, he takes a much bigger and more powerful stride, which he used to proppel himself into a full speed and devastating kick on the descent from this immense and powerful stride.

hence, E was moving at supersonic speed going into the Kick, and Gaara's sand is supersonic to easily block it. this also shows the power of Gaara's sand; E broke one of Susano's ribs, yet could not even budge Gaara's supersonic sand.

[Vivi]

not bullcrap. feats. I countered everything numorous times. you were simply repeating things that everybody else said. you are hardly worth my time

do you know anything about martial arts? he thrusted himself forward into the air, which propeled him to his maximum speed forward, allowing him to axe kick Sasuke with his leg on the descent of this massive and powerful stride. Its called a foward kick from and explosive launch (which propelled E to full speed)

sprinters do explode forward, which does lift them off of the ground allitle in the process due to the force of powerfully moving forward and upward from a low base. E is much faster than a normal sprinter, hence he would explode in a more forward and more upward diretion. in other words, he takes a much bigger and more powerful stride, which he used to proppel himself into a full speed and devastating kick on the descent from this immense and powerful stride.

hence, E was moving at supersonic speed going into the Kick, and Gaara's sand is supersonic to easily block it. this also shows the power of Gaara's sand; E broke one of Susano's ribs, yet could not even budge Gaara's supersonic sand.

All doesnt matter cause it can't kill Gamabunta.

[otacon]

Gamabunta easily outspeeds Gaara.Hence how he leaped out the Crevice.
Also Gamabunta has Water Release: Gunshot.Meaning Gaara's sand will turn Muddy and falling into itself.

And lol at Gaara's sand killing a 100m Big Gamabunta.

Gambunta is as fast as Gaara's supersonic sand? doubtful

Water would not cause Gaara's sand to be immombile; it would only make it heavier and more compact, which would require Gaara to use more chakra to contiuosly use it. thats it. If you have ever been to beach you would know that sand gets more compact and more sturdy when wet (and hevier), but it does not get muddy and fall apart. also, it was said that Gaara's sand is SOAKED with the blood of his many victims, and blood is heavier than water. the only time water was ever shown affecting Gaara's sand was in filler, which does not count.

yeah, Gaara's sand could kill Gambunta, especially if he created more form the ground. Gaara's has shown against Deidara that he could make MASSIVE sand Koffins, easily big enough to consticked any boss summon.

[Nyruss]

not bullcrap. feats. Not feats. Bullcrap.

I countered everything numorous times. you were simply repeating things that everybody else said. you are hardly worth my time


I countered everything numerous times. You were simply repeating things that everybody else had already disproven.

you are hardly worth my time

And yet, here you are, futilely attempting to prove, yet again, that Gaara's sand is supersonic when it plainly isn't.

do you know anything about martial arts? he thrusted himself forward into the air, which propeled him to his maximum speed forward, allowing him to axe kick Sasuke with his leg on the descent of this massive and powerful stride. Its called a foward kick from and explosive launch (which propelled E to full speed)


Yeah, he didn't do that. He jumped into the air. Do you have any proof that jumping into the air allows him to increase his speed?

sprinters do explode forward, which does lift them off of the ground allitle in the process due to the force of powerfully moving forward and upward from a low base.

Good for them.

E is much faster than a normal sprinter, hence he would explode in a more forward and more upward diretion He jumped up. Straight up. Into the air.

hence, E was moving at supersonic speed going into the Kick, and Gaara's sand is supersonic to easily block it. No he wasn't, Gaara's sand wasn't supersonic, etc etc etc.

this also shows the power of Gaara's sand; E broke one of Susano's ribs, yet could not even budge Gaara's supersonic sand.

He was falling. I'm no expert on pshyics involved in moving, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume that falling does not have the same power that a karate chop would.

[Vivi]

Gambunta is as fast as Gaara's supersonic sand? doubtful

Water would not cause Gaara's sand to be immombile; it would only make it heavier and more compact, which would require Gaara to use more chakra to contiuosly use it. thats it. If you have ever been to beach you would know that sand gets more compact and more sturdy when wet (and hevier), but it does not get muddy and fall apart. also, it was said that Gaara's sand is SOAKED with the blood of his many victims, and blood is heavier than water. the only time water was ever shown affecting Gaara's sand was in filler, which does not count.

yeah, Gaara's sand could kill Gambunta, especially if he created more form the ground. Gaara's has shown against Deidara that he could make MASSIVE sand Koffins, easily big enough to consticked any boss summon.

Gaara's sand ain't.

An no Gaara never showed a 100m Big Sand Coffin.

[otacon]

DM, you did not proove anything in your last post. at all

[Nyruss]

DM, you did not proove anything in your last post. at all


I countered every one of your points. You are proving once again that you are butthurt and have no counter., thus you refuse to debate.

[otacon]

Gaara's sand ain't.

An no Gaara never showed a 100m Big Sand Coffin.

Yeah, Gaara's sand is supersonic. care to give a reason why not?

yes it did against Deidei. Ill get the chapter and page in a few minutes

[otacon]

I countered every one of your points. You are proving once again that you are butthurt and have no counter., thus you refuse to debate.

you did not say anything to back up your points. at all. you simply deninedeverything I said. you are not worth my time

[Nyruss]

Yeah, Gaara's sand is supersonic. care to give a reason why not?



No it's not. Care to give a reason why it is?

[Vivi]

Yeah, Gaara's sand is supersonic. care to give a reason why not?

yes it did against Deidei. Ill get the chapter and page in a few minutes

Dudemeister said it.Rocklee did.TDZ did.

Your just being a stubborn Kid.

[otacon]

Dudemeister said it.Rocklee did.TDZ did.

Your just being a stubborn Kid.

first of all, chapter 248 pgs 16-17 and 18. Yeah, I think that would be big enough to kill Gambunta

a feat is a feat. I gave gavenumorous reasons proving why E was at fullspeed (his thrust forward got him to full speed, and his descent form this monsterous andpowerful stride was what propeled his supersonic kick. also, it can not be proven that Gaara was already in the area,or that Gaara already had his sand their. infact, afew pages before, Gaara was still in the summet room. it was an impulse that made him go to interveen the fight, and Gaara was pretty far away from the battle as well as shown when Gaara later commences his attack against Sasuke. this is a legit feat that proves that Gaara's sand is supersonic, and the people you mentioned are stubborn not to addmit it.

[Vivi]

first of all, chapter 248 pgs 16-17 and 18. Yeah, I think that would be big enough to kill Gambunta

a feat is a feat. I gave gavenumorous reasons proving why E was at fullspeed (his thrust forward got him to full speed, and his descent form this monsterous andpowerful stride was what propeled his supersonic kick. also, it can not be proven that Gaara was already in the area,or that Gaara already had his sand their. infact, afew pages before, Gaara was still in the summet room. it was an impulse that made him go to interveen the fight, and Gaara was pretty far away from the battle as well as shown when Gaara later commences his attack against Sasuke. this is a legit feat that proves that Gaara's sand is supersonic, and the people you mentioned are stubborn not to addmit it.

LOL for believing Gamabunta gets trapped in that.
If Deidara got out Gamabunta will easily as well.

And yeah Big Feat doing such a Coffin in a Desert.

Will never happen anywhere else.

[otacon]

LOL for believing Gamabunta gets trapped in that.
If Deidara got out Gamabunta will easily as well.

And yeah Big Feat doing such a Coffin in a Desert.

Will never happen anywhere else.

the only reason Dei got out was do to his explosions, which Gambunta does not have.

Gaara could eisily create that much sand outside of a desert by creating sand from the ground as he did against Kimmimaro.